Kentucky Derby forecasts the presidential winner
BLACKPOOLJIMMY
Unfortunately the second place filly had to be put down with shattered
ankles.
Hey...I was in the sun all day.
RichL
I hope Hillary's fate is more forgiving ;-)
BLACKPOOLJIMMY
I do also......maybe just out to pasture.
Way too much sun
Nancy
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Way too much sun
I saw her today on TV. Well I saw her make-up anyway. Don't know what's
under it. She had on enough to be a replacemet for a Kiss band member.
BLACKPOOLJIMMY
> BLACKPOOLJIMMY <Blackpoolji...@aol.com> wrote:
> > Big Brown won.
>
:-)
fatt...@yahoo.com
I was very upset when I read that the filly broke both her ankles and
was put to sleep. I don't know much about horse racing, but I am
starting to question the safety of that whole system . . . Too many
animals suffer bad injuries, and then they are put to sleep like a
piece of furniture. It does not seem right.
Frank from Deeetroit
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Hillary is a disgusting person.
fatt...@yahoo.com
> fattuc...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > I was very upset when I read that the filly broke both her ankles and
> > was put to sleep. I don't know much about horse racing, but I am
> > starting to question the safety of that whole system . . . Too many
> > animals suffer bad injuries, and then they are put to sleep like a
> > piece of furniture. It does not seem right.
>
> channeling it through your "Can I wag a morally scolding finger at
> this?" filter?
>
> Such a hopeless prig, through and through.
I'm a hopeless prig because I am upset that a young magnificent animal
was badly injured and died? Where is your heart?
fatt...@yahoo.com
> Dumb as a F*cking Wall wrote:
>
> > > > I was very upset when I read that the filly broke both her ankles and
> > > > was put to sleep. I don't know much about horse racing, but I am
> > > > starting to question the safety of that whole system . . . Too many
> > > > animals suffer bad injuries, and then they are put to sleep like a
> > > > piece of furniture. It does not seem right.
>
> > > Does your brain ever process a piece of data without instantly
> > > channeling it through your "Can I wag a morally scolding finger at
> > > this?" filter?
>
> > > Such a hopeless prig, through and through.
>
> > I'm a hopeless prig because I am upset that a young magnificent animal
> > was badly injured and died? Where is your heart?
>
>
> Hopeless.
>
> Here's the difference, imbecile:
>
> 1) Being sad that an animal died
> 2) Instantly jumping past that sadness to priggishly wag at the
> immorality of "that whole system" -- and even though you admittedly
> "don't know much" about it
>
> Get it?
You're the one who doesn't seem to get it. My comments are similar to
the opinions exchanged in a number of blogs regarding the Kentucky
Derby. There are many people who follow horse racing who are
wondering why so many animals break down so terribly. I don't
understand why that should bother you.
fatt...@yahoo.com
> fattuc...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > Here's the difference, imbecile:
>
> > > 1) Being sad that an animal died
> > > 2) Instantly jumping past that sadness to priggishly wag at the
> > > immorality of "that whole system" -- and even though you admittedly
> > > "don't know much" about it
>
> > > Get it?
>
> > You're the one who doesn't seem to get it. My comments are similar to
> > the opinions exchanged in a number of blogs regarding the Kentucky
> > Derby. There are many people who follow horse racing who are
> > wondering why so many animals break down so terribly. I don't
> > understand why that should bother you.
>
> just people like you who have no real interest in the sport but only
> turn engaged where there's something which you can adopt a morally
> superior stance about?
Do you follow horseracing at all? Hear of Barbaro?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbaro
Some people like Paul McCartney are interested in animal cruelty
issues. Such an interest does not make them priggish, stupid, etc.
fatt...@yahoo.com
> fattuc...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > Here's the difference, imbecile:
>
> > > 1) Being sad that an animal died
> > > 2) Instantly jumping past that sadness to priggishly wag at the
> > > immorality of "that whole system" -- and even though you admittedly
> > > "don't know much" about it
>
> > > Get it?
>
> > You're the one who doesn't seem to get it. My comments are similar to
> > the opinions exchanged in a number of blogs regarding the Kentucky
> > Derby. There are many people who follow horse racing who are
> > wondering why so many animals break down so terribly. I don't
> > understand why that should bother you.
>
> just people like you who have no real interest in the sport but only
> turn engaged where there's something which you can adopt a morally
> superior stance about?
Here is part of the wiki article:
Legacy
Barbaro's accident and struggle has led some to call for a review of
the practices of tradition-bound thoroughbred horse racing and
breeding. Many acknowledge that modern thoroughbreds are more delicate
than those of much of the sport's history. Barbaro's injury
intensified the debate over the use of artificial track surfaces at
racecourses.[29]
The Jacksons have endowed a chair for equine disease research at the
University of Pennsylvania's veterinary school.[30]
In honor of Barbaro's valiant fight against his injuries in the 2006
Preakness Stakes, NTRA has established the NTRA Charities, Barbaro
Memorial Fund. This fund will focus on Equine Health and Safety --
which will include research to find a cure for laminitis, the disease
that ultimately took Barbaro's life.
fatt...@yahoo.com
> fattuc...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > Here's the difference, imbecile:
>
> > > 1) Being sad that an animal died
> > > 2) Instantly jumping past that sadness to priggishly wag at the
> > > immorality of "that whole system" -- and even though you admittedly
> > > "don't know much" about it
>
> > > Get it?
>
> > You're the one who doesn't seem to get it. My comments are similar to
> > the opinions exchanged in a number of blogs regarding the Kentucky
> > Derby. There are many people who follow horse racing who are
> > wondering why so many animals break down so terribly. I don't
> > understand why that should bother you.
>
Of course!
If you knew anything about the subject, you would not make such a
statement.
O'Leary III
> You're the one who doesn't seem to get it. My comments are similar to
> the opinions exchanged in a number of blogs regarding the Kentucky
> Derby. There are many people who follow horse racing who are
> wondering why so many animals break down so terribly. I don't
> understand why that should bother you.
Now blogs are a measuring stick?
O'Leary III
> Your responses only grow more and more inane.
>
> Others will note the violation of my previously cited "multiple
> response" rule of thumb.
Duly noted.
fatt...@yahoo.com
Perhaps you missed the point of my exchange with PR. PR stated,
"Does your brain ever process a piece of data without instantly
channeling it through your "Can I wag a morally scolding finger at
this?" filter?
Such a hopeless prig, through and through. "
He suggested in a couple of posts that my sadness over the tragic
death of Eight Belles was somehow unique to me because I supposedly
wag my scolding finger all over the place. I am merely trying to
point out to him that the death of Eight Belles is of concern to many
people who follow horse racing. If one reads different blogs,
editorials, news groups, articles, etc. this concern is obvious.
Here is just one:
http://msn.foxsports.com/horseracing/story/8105724?MSNHPHCP>1=39002
fatt...@yahoo.com
Here is another article:
http://msn.foxsports.com/horseracing/story/8102414/PETA-wants-Eight-Belles-jockey-suspended
Apparently PETA is calling for the suspension of the jockey that road
Eight Belles. According to this article, Eight Belles broke both her
front ankles AFTER she crossed the finish line. PETA believes that the
filly was injured DURING the race and that the jockey should have
known it or did know it but pushed her to run.harder.
If this is true, it would show what a true champion Eight Belles was.
As you may or may not know, it is unusual for a filly to beat the
males. Many horse racing fans find such an event very exciting a la
Bobby Riggs vs. Billie Jean King.
Toward the end of the race, Eight Belles was running second to the
winner, which shows what a terrific athlete she was. The question
raised by PETA apparently is "was she running injured?" Imagine if
she were well . . . .she might have won, which probably would have
been a historical event.
Did you ever see the Rags to Riches win at last year's Belmont? Very
very exciting. She broke a 100 year record.
fatt...@yahoo.com
Here is a video of Rags to Riches winning at the Belmont. Very very
exciting!
fatt...@yahoo.com
Here are some youtube links concerning Eight Belles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvfVWeekb-I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nssrqK-0VUg&feature=related
If you go through youtube (just to name one place) you'd see that many
people discuss this issue of why do so many race horses suffer such
tragic injuries. This is an important issue.
fatt...@yahoo.com
Did you read the article about PETA and the comments?
Many people are upset. They are wondering now if the jockey beat Eight
Belles during the race to make her run while hurt. How would you like
it if someone beat you while you were jogging and hurt to make you run
harder and faster so you broke both your ankles? Plus I read one of
her fractures was so bad, the bone came thru her skin. Can you
imagine her terrible pain??!! Can you??
http://msn.foxsports.com/horseracing/story/8102414/PETA-wants-Eight-Belles-jockey-suspended
Look at the comments. Some want the jockey suspended. Some want the
owners to forfeit their prize.
Is there a heart ANYWHERE in that body of yours?
fatt...@yahoo.com
Here is more debate about the tragic Eight Belles.
See the article? See the comments?
Sean Carroll
> He suggested in a couple of posts that my sadness over the tragic
> death of Eight Belles was somehow unique to me because I supposedly
> wag my scolding finger all over the place. I am merely trying to
> point out to him that the death of Eight Belles is of concern to many
> people who follow horse racing. If one reads different blogs,
> editorials, news groups, articles, etc. this concern is obvious.
You and PR both have points.
I don't know much about horse racing, but it has never sat quite right with
me that people are essentially using up these noble and intelligent animals,
making them run around in circles for our entertainment until they hurt
themselves, and then killing them when they're no longer of use. Maybe
that's a biased view of the situation, and it would change if I knew more
about it. But the point is that I am inclined to agree with your concern on
the issue.
On the other hand, PR is right. You do spend an inordinate amount of time
wagging your finger and passing moralistic judgments on others. He could
have picked a better time to point this out, since in this case your concern
actually has some validity to it. But that doesn't make him wrong. Whether
your concerns are valid or not is a separate issue from your motivation for
expressing them in the first place.
--
--Sean
http://spclsd223.livejournal.com
House: I invited you because bowling isn't one of the two things guys do by
themselves.
Chase: What's the second thing?
House: Other hand.
RichL
PETA is not objective in this matter.
According to the jockey, he *only* used the whip when it was necessary
to keep the horse from running into the rail.
I have viewed replays of the race and I've seen no abuse.
Now if you want to ban horse racing because it's unnecessarily cruel,
that's another matter. But *this* race was run well within the bounds
accepted by the sport.
RichL
> Here is more debate about the tragic Eight Belles.
>
>
http://sports.aol.com/story/_a/eight-belles-trainer-defends-jockey/20080505142209990001?icid=1615984995x1201622434x1200302602
>
>
> See the article? See the comments?
Did you read the whole thing? It reinforces what I said in my other
post.
The only "debate" comes from PETA's inane comments, which are
contradictory. The injury didn't occur until the horse passed the
finish line, at which point the jockey was starting to pull the horse up
anyway.
If PETA doesn't like horse racing, fine, they should just come out and
say that, rather than making up *crap* about what actually happened on
the track.
RichL
> PETA believes that the filly was injured DURING the race
> and that the jockey should have known it or did know it
> but pushed her to run.harder.
And PETA has absolutely *no* evidence for this whatsoever. It is a
*belief*, not a deduction established from facts.
RichL
> Here is a video of Rags to Riches winning at the Belmont. Very very
> exciting!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OY95R7gNNI
So, you like horse racing when no injuries occur, but you abhor it when
they do?
fatt...@yahoo.com
> <fattuc...@yahoo.com> wrote
>
> > He suggested in a couple of posts that my sadness over the tragic
> > death of Eight Belles was somehow unique to me because I supposedly
> > wag my scolding finger all over the place. I am merely trying to
> > point out to him that the death of Eight Belles is of concern to many
> > people who follow horse racing. If one reads different blogs,
> > editorials, news groups, articles, etc. this concern is obvious.
>
> You and PR both have points.
>
> I don't know much about horse racing, but it has never sat quite right with
> me that people are essentially using up these noble and intelligent animals,
> making them run around in circles for our entertainment until they hurt
> themselves, and then killing them when they're no longer of use.
You raise some valid points. I am no expert on the subject; I would
like to think that many thoroughbreds enjoy the competition. Further
I assume many are well fed, given good medical care, etc. It just
upsets me to read reports that so many of them break a leg or ankle
while running and then are often put to sleep.
>
> On the other hand, PR is right. You do spend an inordinate amount of time
> wagging your finger and passing moralistic judgments on others.
Fine, and I'll be happy to "take my lumps" and to address those
issues.
He could
> have picked a better time to point this out, since in this case your concern
> actually has some validity to it. But that doesn't make him wrong.
PR has no business calling me names. Perhaps you don't read many
threads here; he "attacks" me constantly and picks fights with many
people.
Further, frankly I am pissed off right now because of all the issues,
he decided to call me names merely because I am upset over the injury,
suffering and death of a beautiful creature. What the hell is the
matter with him? :-(
fatt...@yahoo.com
> fattuc...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On May 5, 4:03 pm, poisoned rose <pr...@definitive.com> wrote:
> > Did you read the article about PETA and the comments?
>
> > Many people are upset. They are wondering now if the jockey beat Eight
> > Belles during the race to make her run while hurt. How would you like
> > it if someone beat you while you were jogging and hurt to make you run
> > harder and faster so you broke both your ankles? Plus I read one of
> > her fractures was so bad, the bone came thru her skin. Can you
> > imagine her terrible pain??!! Can you??
>
>
>
>
> > Look at the comments. Some want the jockey suspended. Some want the
> > owners to forfeit their prize.
>
> > Is there a heart ANYWHERE in that body of yours?
>
> PETA is not objective in this matter.
>
> According to the jockey, he *only* used the whip when it was necessary
> to keep the horse from running into the rail.
>
> I have viewed replays of the race and I've seen no abuse.
>
> Now if you want to ban horse racing because it's unnecessarily cruel,
> that's another matter. But *this* race was run well within the bounds
> accepted by the sport.
I don't know if PETA is right or wrong. I provided a link mainly to
show PR that I am not alone in my concern about the sad death of Eight
Belles. This is a subject of discussion in many quarters, not just in
Fatty's head.
If PR had a beating heart in his chest instead of a computer program
or blind hatred for me, he should have been able to figure it out.
fatt...@yahoo.com
Well, of course. As far as I know, (and I am no expert) many race
horses are treated very well. Of course I would abhor it if they were
treated badly (like grayhounds, for example)
But my point which started this whole discussion with PR is that
horseracing can be a fun and healthy sport . . . however, something
is "wrong" when so many magnificent animals suffer such horrid
injuries. All that I am suggesting is that trainers, owners and other
experts do something to improve the sport and make the animals
healthier. One suggestion I've read a little about, for example, is to
change the tracks.
Another point: it makes me very sad to see an injured animal put to
sleep. I realize that sometimes that is necessary, but with all the
progress medical science has made over the decades, I'd like to think
that vets can do more to ease an animal's suffering and restore him or
her to health, even if he or she never races again. I sometimes
wonder if an animal with a broken leg is put to sleep due to greed.
i.e. the horse will never race again, therefore the owner (or whoever)
does not want the animal and does not want to pay costly medical
bills, so they kill it.
RichL
My understanding is that a horse cannot survive if it cannot support
itself in an upright position. That's what happened in this case.
As for your other comments, do you remember the case of Barbaro and how
much time and effort and money was put into trying to rescue him, only
to have him ultimately die of the injuries he suffered?
You're way off the mark here. Although I'm not a big horse-racing fan,
I can see that these animals are, among other things, investments,
potentially worth millions in stud fees even if they don't race any
more.
Now a legitimate case can be made that the way thoroughbred breeding has
"progressed", stamina is no longer a huge factor in what the "experts"
believe constitute desirable traits in a race horse. Consequently, you
see the top horses racing about half as much as their predecessors used
to in the old days. Also, it can be argue that these modern
thoroughbreds are more susceptible to injury as a result.
I know that this case has led to a reexamination of the use of
artificial surfaces in racing to reduce the risk of injury, but I think
that dodges the issue of breeding horses for speed alone and introducing
weaknesses into the bloodlines as a result.
As for me, I know horses love to run. Whether they love to run with a
rider atop and with other horses pressing them on all sides is another
issue. I *do* tend to watch the major races, as there's an element of
excitement to them, but overall, I don't think that the world would
suffer much if we didn't have thoroughbred racing.
tom....@ix.netcom.com
> fattuc...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > I was very upset when I read that the filly broke both her ankles and
> > was put to sleep. I don't know much about horse racing, but I am
> > starting to question the safety of that whole system . . . Too many
> > animals suffer bad injuries, and then they are put to sleep like a
> > piece of furniture. It does not seem right.
>
> Does your brain ever process a piece of data without instantly
> channeling it through your "Can I wag a morally scolding finger at
> this?" filter?
...said Poisoned Rose, wagging his scolding finger.
> Nothing thrills you like finding issues which make yourself feel morally
> superior
...said Poisoned Rose, making himself feel morally superior.
Nil
Funny how this game keeps going around and around. The Wheel of Moral
Superiority... first one side thinks it's up, then the other, in
perpetual futile pursuit. Can it ever end?
bessie
> fattuc...@yahoo.com:
>
> > Here are some youtube links concerning Eight Belles.
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvfVWeekb-I
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nssrqK-0VUg&feature=related
>
> > If you go through youtube (just to name one place) you'd see that many
> > people discuss this issue of why do so many race horses suffer such
> > tragic injuries. This is an important issue.
>
>
> You're an inveterate vampire and, yes, a hopeless prig. Eternally
> looking for dirt...eternally looking for somewhere to wag your finger,
> and congratulate yourself on your moral purity. You keep pointlessly
> yammering about racing enthusiasts being concerned with the same issue,
> but it's irrelevant. They're not opportunistic parasites like you are.
>
> Why are you so bewilderingly stupid that you think I dispute that many
> others are thoughtfully contemplating the implications of this injury? I
> also don't doubt that many others have level-headed reasons why they are
> not fond of Yoko Ono or her music. What does any of that have to do with
> you and your obsessive yenta hysteria?
>
> > Is there a heart ANYWHERE in that body of yours?
>
> in front of her eyes, all but accuses her of conspiring to have him
> killed.
>
> Now, be careful...you're getting overexcited, and your girdle is likely
> to burst one of its reinforcements.
ROFLMAO!!!
Oh my, that was a great post!
(Can whale bone stays burst?)
bessie
>
> - Show quoted text -
Horses are incredibly fragile animals, especially given their size.
When you deal with thoroughbreds there are so many negatives against
the poor animals as there is so much inbreeding going on.
The horses are bred for speed, not strength and they keep running them
younger and younger which is extremely detrimental to the horse. They
should not be raced until they are 3 years of age, sadly that isn't
happening anymore.
It's all about the money.
Frank from Deeetroit
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>http://msn.foxsports.com/horseracing/story/8102414/PETA-wants-Eight-Belles-jockey-suspended
I have dismissed a lot of the PETA's positions on animals being used for
food and clothing, I have a couple of nice leather jackets, leather shoes,
and leather gun cases.
In this Kentucky Derby race, I do believe the PETA people have brought up a
good point to begin an investigation. A race horse should not break both
front ankles at the same time after a race. Watching the race, it is clear
that Eight Belles was falling back from the winner during the home stretch,
the winner was not pulling away. The jockey was working his whip/crop
pretty heard during the home stretch. There exists the possibility that
Eight Belles was sore or an injury was occurring at the late point of the
race.
The Federal Government should begin an investigation. Kentucky relies on
horse racing too much to investigate this incident (would be like
complaining to Ronald McDonald about an overcooked Big Mac).
fatt...@yahoo.com
I am not a vet. I don't know one way or the other.
>
> As for your other comments, do you remember the case of Barbaro and how
> much time and effort and money was put into trying to rescue him, only
> to have him ultimately die of the injuries he suffered?
Yes, but I think he died of complications following the injury.
However, as tragic as that was, I believe at least the owners did what
they could to save him.
>
> You're way off the mark here. Although I'm not a big horse-racing fan,
> I can see that these animals are, among other things, investments,
> potentially worth millions in stud fees even if they don't race any
> more.
>
> Now a legitimate case can be made that the way thoroughbred breeding has
> "progressed", stamina is no longer a huge factor in what the "experts"
> believe constitute desirable traits in a race horse. Consequently, you
> see the top horses racing about half as much as their predecessors used
> to in the old days. Also, it can be argue that these modern
> thoroughbreds are more susceptible to injury as a result.
>
> I know that this case has led to a reexamination of the use of
> artificial surfaces in racing to reduce the risk of injury, but I think
> that dodges the issue of breeding horses for speed alone and introducing
> weaknesses into the bloodlines as a result.
Well, that may be a good point. So perhaps the sport should be changed
so horses are no longer bred in such a way to have such weaknesses.
All that I am suggesting is that certain changes can be made, perhaps,
to reduce the occurrence of these devastating injuries.
Here's another example: I have read various articles in the past
couple of years of instances where Little League teams have been using
lighter aluminum bats instead of wood bats. Apparently the aluminum
bats help the batters hit the ball hard. The down side is there have
been a few reported cases where the ball is hit on a line drive, and a
Little League fielder is badly injured or killed by the ball. So some
leagues ban the use of aluminum bats.
fatt...@yahoo.com
>
> - Show quoted text -
Oh my. It seems we tend to agree.
I have to sit down. I'm feeling faint.
P
L
O
PPPPPPPP
fatt...@yahoo.com
wrote:
> <fattuc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >Did you read the article about PETA and the comments?
> >Many people are upset. They are wondering now if the jockey beat Eight
> >Belles during the race to make her run while hurt. How would you like
> >it if someone beat you while you were jogging and hurt to make you run
> >harder and faster so you broke both your ankles? Plus I read one of
> >her fractures was so bad, the bone came thru her skin. Can you
> >imagine her terrible pain??!! Can you??
> >http://msn.foxsports.com/horseracing/story/8102414/PETA-wants-Eight-B...
> >Look at the comments. Some want the jockey suspended. Some want the
> >owners to forfeit their prize.
> >Is there a heart ANYWHERE in that body of yours?
>
> I have dismissed a lot of the PETA's positions on animals being used for
> food and clothing, I have a couple of nice leather jackets, leather shoes,
> and leather gun cases.
I buy leather goods too, and I eat meat. But it angers me if I know
of an animal being mistreated purely for greed or just cruelty i.e.
certain stories regarding greyhounds.
>
> In this Kentucky Derby race, I do believe the PETA people have brought up a
> good point to begin an investigation. A race horse should not break both
> front ankles at the same time after a race.
As I've said, I'm no expert, but the circumstances just "stink" and at
a minimum there should be a broad investigation regarding this horse
and the race. I am not suggesting that I know one way or the other
that the jockey did anything wrong; but I am tired of reading about
such injures. The sport should be improved in some way.
I don't understand why PR should get his knickers in a twist over this
particular issue. He happens to be a runner himself. Not an ounce of
sympathy from this heartless man. .
And if someone like myself should call for further investigation, he
calls me names.
And bessie jumps in to agree with his nastiness.
Some things will never change.
Oh well. I hope horse racing changes for the better.
bessie
>
> - Show quoted text -
Oh, sorry!
abe slaney
> I'm all for banning the use of aluminum bats in horse racing. Pass me
> the petition.
Or people using aluminum horses in bat racing. Enough is enough - it's
time to take a stand!
fatt...@yahoo.com
http://images.google.com/images?gbv=2&hl=en&q=music+stand&btnG=Search+Images
Please put that stand back. Other musicians here may need it.
Thanks.
O'Leary III
> PETA is not objective in this matter.
PETA's downright crazy. They recruited me when I moved to Virginia, and
when I realized that it would be a 90-120 minute commute, I declined.
they were nasty.
O'Leary III
>> PETA is not objective in this matter.
> I don't know if PETA is right or wrong.
He said that they weren't objective.
O'Leary III
> I buy leather goods too, and I eat meat. But it angers me if I know
> of an animal being mistreated purely for greed or just cruelty i.e.
> certain stories regarding greyhounds.
Ignorance is bliss.
O'Leary III
> If PETA doesn't like horse racing, fine, they should just come out and
> say that, rather than making up *crap* about what actually happened on
> the track.
Substitute PETA, horse racing and the track with Fatts, Yoko and life,
and you point is even more far reaching.
O'Leary III
>> Now blogs are a measuring stick?
>
> Perhaps you missed the point of my exchange with PR.
Yes, and with glee.
O'Leary III
The irony of a right wing lunatic defending PETA boggles the mind.
O'Leary III
> Here's another example: I have read various articles in the past
> couple of years of instances where Little League teams have been using
> lighter aluminum bats instead of wood bats. Apparently the aluminum
> bats help the batters hit the ball hard. The down side is there have
> been a few reported cases where the ball is hit on a line drive, and a
> Little League fielder is badly injured or killed by the ball. So some
> leagues ban the use of aluminum bats.
I haven't read anything, but I've been on lots of baseball fields. I
hate aluminum bats, but they don't crack like wood. This is purely an
economic issue.
Only those who are signed and go through the minors begin to use wood.
O'Leary III
> Funny how this game keeps going around and around. The Wheel of Moral
> Superiority... first one side thinks it's up, then the other, in
> perpetual futile pursuit. Can it ever end?
Killfiles is about as close as we can get.
O'Leary III
> You almost gotta pity Donna nowadays. She has so painted herself into a
> corner and marginalized herself with her transparent games of cronyism
> and hypocritical moralizing that there's really little else left for her
> to post about. She just has to lurk and wait, and hope Fattuchus or
> BPJimmy takes some heat so she can step in with her
> ego-massage/redirection schtick.
They sound like a super couple.
bessie
They are complete freaking nut cases. About two years ago they
announced a HUGE demonstration at the local cattle auction yard.
About 5 of them showed up and locked themselves to the front gate to
prevent anyone coming in. So the auction yard opened the gates
dragging these idiots along.
Pathetic
Jeff
> O'Leary III <mo...@mojo1.com> wrote:
> > > Here's another example: I have read various articles in the past
> > > couple of years of instances where Little League teams have been using
> > > lighter aluminum bats instead of wood bats. Apparently the aluminum
> > > bats help the batters hit the ball hard. The down side is there have
> > > been a few reported cases where the ball is hit on a line drive, and a
> > > Little League fielder is badly injured or killed by the ball. So some
> > > leagues ban the use of aluminum bats.
>
> > I haven't read anything, but I've been on lots of baseball fields. I
> > hate aluminum bats, but they don't crack like wood. This is purely an
> > economic issue.
>
> aluminum bats.
>
> I also really doubt there's some enormous difference between the
> injuries possible from a wood-hit drive and an aluminum-hit drive. If a
> infielder gets beaned in the head by a line drive, it's gonna take him
> down either way.
>
> Next, I suppose Fattuchus will make another of her grand moral
> proclamations, and declare that she's firmly against little leaguers
> with broken bones being euthanized. My hands are already poised to
> applaud.
I'm against parents trying to get their sons into little league in the
first place. It's bullshit unless the kids are really into it. My dad
got my middle brother into it, and I warned him there would be serious
problems within the next two weeks. My dad said how wonderful the
coach was..the first two weeks. Then the coach decided my brother
wasn't good enough to be on the team, so he spent most of his time on
the bench. My dad then writes an editorial to the local
newspaper..which resulted in
a huge yard fight on our property..verbally speaking..with kids
standing nearby. These are just kids, for Christsakes, and for these
coaches to bench these kids who are not professionals..by a long
shot..should not be yelling at the kids, make them sit on a bench..or
mentally abuse them in any way. They can't learn anything, if they are
not allowed to play. I'm just venting, PR. Nothing personal. It's a
nightmare, I would rather forget.
fatt...@yahoo.com
>
> - Show quoted text -
Not all little leagues are the same. Some are very competitive and
some are more relaxed and just for fun. It also depends on the coach.
I happen to like baseball very much and I think baseball and
competitive sports are beneficial for children for many reasons.
First, it gets kids off their asses away from the TV and computer
games. It is good exercise for them. Second, a game like baseball is
especially good because the youngsters learn team work, cooperation,
and stategy.
Jeff
I remember in grade school..the kids being upset all afternoon..if
their team lost, like it's a big deal. It was just one side of the
class playing the other. It should be for the fun of it..but kids
aren't taught that..which is my point. There is nothing wrong with
being competitive..as long as the kids don't take the loss that
seriously.
> I happen to like baseball very much and I think baseball and
> competitive sports are beneficial for children for many reasons.
> First, it gets kids off their asses away from the TV and computer
> games. It is good exercise for them. Second, a game like baseball is
> especially good because the youngsters learn team work, cooperation,
> and stategy.
I think kids should be required to be competitive for a short
time..and then have the choice to participate in another type of
excercize, if they want to opt out off the team. They could play
soccer...(which I loved way more than baseball and football)...or be
required to run so many laps around the field. My favorite sport was
tetherball, although I wasn't really very good at it..cause I couldn't
hit the ball hard enough, to get it over the other guys head. So, I
quickly realized that I had to play the
game differently to win. You know how you are not supposed to grab the
rope (roping it)..cause it's against the rules? Well, I would grab the
ball quickly..(not holding it)
and "push" it, over the other guys head..for awhile..and let the other
guy wear himself out..then push it..one last time..and never stop
hitting that ball..and I beat almost
everyone with my strategy...and no kid ever said a word about how I
played the game..cause they knew what I did, was perfectly legal.
Unlike other kids though...I had blood running down my hand and
arms...every day..cause I wouldn't give up, and had to work harder at
it to win.
O'Leary III
O'Leary III
> I happen to like baseball very much and I think baseball and
> competitive sports are beneficial for children for many reasons.
> First, it gets kids off their asses away from the TV and computer
> games. It is good exercise for them. Second, a game like baseball is
> especially good because the youngsters learn team work, cooperation,
> and stategy.
God, that's funny.
O'Leary III
> Unlike other kids though...I had blood running down my hand and
> arms...every day..cause I wouldn't give up, and had to work harder at
> it to win.
But... but... you said...
Manfred Noland
People Eating Tasty Animals.
fatt...@yahoo.com
> PETA stands for :
> People Eating Tasty Animals.
Really? All this time I thought it meant "People Exorcizing the
Transit Authority."