I will post a daily update on the progress for those interested and
thinking of quitting themselves.
It's time.
Good on ya mate. Best of luck. It won't be easy, but you'll thank
yourself for it in the end.
K
Determined. Thanks cooperhead.
Good luck! :).
I quit nearly 20 years ago. I quit 2 other times before that. Each
time was about a year each.
I never found it all that difficult to quit. The other two times
failed only because there came an idle time where I was prompted to
smoke by others.
Anyway, one thing that might help you is to realize that nicotine only
stays in your system for 3 days. So if you can get beyond the first 3
days, then any addiction effect you experience is psychological.
Thanks Crisstti. Been tossing it around for awhile and for some
reason, it wasn't time. Now it is.
Hope some out there follow my lead.
Gonna keep a public diary on my progress.
I will keep that in mind BW...thanks.
I quit last Veteran's Day at 11:00 am on 11/11.
But I've smoked on-and-off since I was in high school - smoked
Winston's for a long time.
Got tired of hearing my doctor get on my case - and the growing
intolerance towards smokers and smoking.
I had a good friend who smoked Marlboro's for many years, and,
unfortunately, he died of pancreatic cancer seven years ago; he was
only about 53. He had a "whipple" and underwent chemo and radiation
treatment at Johns Hopkins.
If I'm scaring you.......good.
Quit and be done with it. Psyche yourself up and make you quitting an
"event".
--
mad
Gonna get it done, dammit.
Thanks Mack.
No matter what you may hear, the only way to do it is cold turkey. I
went through a month of thinking of kill my coworkers and pulling out
my own hair, but after that first month I never wanted another one,
and I've been clean for 21 years now, after being a 2+ pack a day
smoker.
Cold turkey it is. If I get a bit testy the next few days...you'll
understand.
Tried to sing a tune last night..got into a terrible coughing fit. 8
hours in...looking for Dunkin Doughnuts, settling for a Twix bar.
I WILL succeed.
I'll probably eat through the weekend.
At 6', 183lbs..I can probably put on 10 and get away with it.
DON'T WANT PUDGE..but WILL quit...
>On Nov 5, 4:31?pm, PJ <palejewel...@gmail.com> wrote:
One way of doing it is to replace a bad habit with a good one.
If you have a weight around (dumbell) everytime you feel the urge to
smoke do fifty arm curls or something. Go for several fast walks
during the first few days or week when you get the urge.
Chew gum. Don't even keep one cigarette around.
Start a good exercise program - one that gives you plenty of aerobic
stuff - fast walking or jogging. Clean your air passages out with
clean freash air.
--
mad
Noted. Thanks.
Not an easy task...but well worth it. I quit in 1988...too busy at
work and no time to smoke. Besides, I found myself gasping for breath
one morning...eyes not even open and lighting up a cigarette. STUPID!
This was my third try to stop. They say it takes a few times. I went
cold turkey...chewed lots of gum, and paced the walls a lot. But I
know you can do it if YOU want it bad enough,,,!!! My neighbor just
went cold turkey...I need to talk him *up* every day. He'll make it
too.
Good luck.
Thank you LG.
And look! It's 4+ hours already! When I quit it was 10 minutes at a
time, until each hour passed. But they did, and I knew they would. I
was apparently mean to people (so I was told) and did things like
drive the wrong way down one way streets. "Look out! You're driving
down a one-way street! This is a one-way street!!" "Well it shouldn't
be!" (said I)
Keep us updated and we'll baby sit you through the toughest part. At
least we'll try to amuse you and keep your mind off it.
Which kind did you prefer? I liked the menthol. I just could not
breathe well anymore, Jimmy, and burned out on it. Did
not go cold turkey though. Just slowly cut down. Good
luck.
Jeff
Good luck with it. You may inspire me yet, although it's more difficult
now, I've got two other smokers in the house with me.
Look, listen and learn buddy-boy. I was once a hard smoker. Kool
unfilters and then Lucky unfilters for many, many years! But I got
out! And the first time, too. Want to know how...? It's called
'SMOKELESS TOBACCO'. And it's JUST AS SATISFYING as cigs, once you use
it for a couple of days. It is addicting (and dangerous like any
tobacco product is) as well, but the great part is, it's MUCH EASIER
to quit than smokes! For me, it was, anyway. But dig… It's the best
darned way to wean yourself OFF of those devil-daggers, my boy. Take
IB..... I mean, take the Mean Man's advice on this matter! It comes in
many nice flavors today, too. It is a bit messy, but don't let the
wife tell you what to do and how to live! I even had my employer at
the time allowing me to do it in their office! No probleemo! Airlines
that refuse to allow you to smoke can’t say a thing when you ask them
for a plastic cup with no drink! They just hand it over and tell you
to clean up your own mess when you leave!
It's was so easy to quite for me that after I was tobacco free for
about eight months, I started right up dipping snuff again. On my
terms, you see.. At least, I thought so. Then, after about seven years
of dipping I tried to stop but could not :( But thank God for little
miracles... I got sick with an unrelated ailment and had to be
admitted to the hospital for a couple of days. One day I was just
tearing the paper off a new can, getting ready to pop in a wad, when
my doctor said that the only place that my bad test numbers could been
coming from was an abnormality on my trachea! I asked him does this
happen often, and he replied that it only happens to tobacco users!
They thought I had cancer, you see. (but they were wrong. I didn't).
But at that moment, my fucking blood ran cold. You may believe that.
Right after he said that about a possible trachea tumor, I put the lid
back on that little sucker and flipped it across the room, right in to
the trash can! That was ten years ago and I haven't used any tobacco
again. None whatsoever.
Well... a little puff of the daughter's butt when she comes over
every once in a while. When you're hooked, you're hooked for life. You
know how it is. The point is, you need to slide gradually off the
smokes! I hope you succeed. I really do. Nobody, no matter how
politically misguided, should croak from self-inflicted cancer. AIDS
is another matter, though. Another matter for another time, I fear…
Mean Man disclaimer: my results were not typical :) It only happened
this way too ME, as far as I know. I hope it happens to you, as well.
> Well... a little puff of the daughter's butt when she comes over
>every once in a while.
Sounds downright incestuous.
--
mad
I wasn't addressing you.
The Nice Mean Man
Obviously not, but this is Usenet.
You set yourself up and opened the door.
Who but the most saintly could resist?
Not I.
--
mad
Day 1 was hard. Constant yearning...smoking imaginary butts, trying to
fool my head...made it though and find it IS getting easier with
passing hours. Thoughts of smokes come and go with less regularity.
This video will sum up day 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q4Wn63uof8
Day 2. Not growing quite as much facial hair.
I do believe I have this beaten.
The worst part is over, but.....
Don't make the mistake of thinking you can pick just one up and smoke
it, either. That's happened to me, and it hooks you right back.
Good going! I'm rooting for you!
--
mad
...my days of smoking are over. I'm already breathing fresh fall air
in two short days. The battle is far from over.. I know. As foolish as
this sounds, it's as if I lost a close friend. Many crazy feelings.
....claustrophobia in wide open spaces.
Thanks for the support.
Yeah, that feeling of cigarettes being your friend is what drew me
back into smoking the first two times I quit. Especially with
Marlboro, because, hell, it's the last tie I had to being a cowboy.
This is where you really do experience the strength of branding. It's
easy to see why so much marketing is directed at young adults who are
still forming their identities.
I guess this is day two for you. Day three is tomorrow. Come Monday,
it's all a mind game.
Keep on.
Getting there BW.
Jim, keep yourself away from stressful situations, too. First thing
smokers do when stressed.....
Stay occupied/busy, though.
I know you can do it!
--
mad
Twenty one years later I still have dreams about smoking a cigarette.
One of the best decisions you will ever make in your life. Stick to
it. The grass will smell greener on the other side.
when you have these dreams do you wake up in a panic, feeling like
you're too weak to overcome your addiction?
I still have dreams about smoking a cigarette too, but unlike
before, I don't wake up craving a cigarette.
Jeff
I once had a dream of smoking a cigarrete (and I've never smoked a
cigarrete in my life). It felt very good, lol.
Jimmy, I'm gald you're making it :).
>
> I once had a dream of smoking a cigarrete (and I've never smoked a
> cigarrete in my life). It felt very good, lol.
>
Freud has a little leather couch waiting for you...
dmh
Sometimes a penis is just a penis...
dmh
>Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:29:17 -0600, Dale Houstman <dm...@skypoint.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Crisstti wrote:
>>>
>>>> I once had a dream of smoking a cigarrete (and I've never smoked a
>>>> cigarrete in my life). It felt very good, lol.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Freud has a little leather couch waiting for you...
>>
>> ....and a cigar!
>>
>Sometimes a penis is just a penis...
Everytime Freud would get a revealing insight into somebody's problem,
he would jump up from his chair and light his cigar.
Cigars killed him. Cancer of the jaw and mouth, I think.
P.S. Jaynes' theory is still very much alive as in the links I have
provided and the book that was published in 2006. Much more than "pop
psychology", he has become a cultural icon among many the enlightened.
--
mad
Is the couch just a couch?
I'm more gald than you.
I didn't see this thread until now.
I'm happy for you, Jimmy. You can do it!
Why quit coffee? I've been a coffee drinker for decades. I know it is
not good to have 6 or 8 cups a day . . . but a cup or two is not
harmful . . . . right?
John Lennon used to chew gum, even when performing. (i.e. the live
telecast of All You Need is Love.). I wonder if he chewed gum because
of his smoking habit.
(notice how clevely I make this on topic)
Also, chewing gum is a great way to dissipate nervousness.
--
mad
that's a good explanation and a great idea.. thanks!
Sometime in my life i stop smoking cigarettes for about 6 months. Than
i got depressed (for other reasons, of course), so i had to take a
treatment.. taking pills, no drugs, no alcohol, being a good clean
guy. I was so good that I get bored of it so I return to smoke
cigarettes, cos that was the only "bad thing" that i could make. Than
I get well, no depression, no pills, but more cigarettes per day.
OOh.. I long for those days when I stop smoking cigarettes.
After about 3 days, it gets easier.
Jeff
After I quit smoking, I would have dreams where, in the dream I'd
suddenly realize I was smoking. The dream would like, freeze up at
that point. I'd be mortified that I was still smoking. Afraid I had no
control over the habit. I'd wake up in a panic. Then I would
experience great relief, knowing that it was just a dream.
That experience would reoccur over the next 8 years. Never the same
dream, but somewhere in the dream I'd realize I was smoking.
Finally, into the 8th year, some guys from work wanted to hit a bar
after work and I went with them. They all smoked and I got the idea
that maybe if I smoked a few cigarettes I'd convince myself that I had
control over the habit. So, I smoked that night. I never had those
dream experiences again. Nor did I start smoking again.
Anyway, a few years later I read a newspaper article about people who
quit smoking who reported the very same sort of dream experiences
where they would wake up in a panic. The success ratio of people who
had those experiences were much greater than the people who didn't
report such experiences.
So, that's why I asked.
I don't know that, she has "gald" in her name.
>
> P.S. Jaynes' theory is still very much alive as in the links I have
> provided and the book that was published in 2006. Much more than "pop
> psychology", he has become a cultural icon among many the enlightened.
I think you're now reading "pop book criticism"...Many crap or
less-than-sparkling books are printed and reprinted, and pop
psychologies, urban myths, and outright bullshit and bunko last for
decade after decade. A long tenure is no guarantee of solid scholarship.
dmh
No, that's the birth sac, complete with cup holders. Go to the bottom of
the hill and turn left into the "hairy garage".
dmh
We didn't hear from Jim yesterday, and I'm concerned. He may have
fallen of the wagon.
Those of us who have tried to quit (I have done, though) know that all
it takes is a stresful incident during those first few days.
--
mad
>Mack A. Damia wrote:
True, but Jaynes' theory hgas been kicked around for about thirty-five
years now, and it's still very much alive and popular.
If you have a bias before you start to read him (I'm not saying that
you do) you are not going to fall in love with his theory.
I think a lot of it has to do with "open-mindedness" and the way
theories are approached as to their accuracy.
YMMV.
--
mad
try getting H1N1
i caught it over 2 months ago and haven't wanted a cigar since. i
still have a hacking cough from it.
i only smoked on weekend evenings, but now i don't want them at all...
just kidding of course - but it's worked for me so far...
good luck.
KIdding about what?
You do wash your hands and put on a mask before
keyboarding, I hope. :)
--
mad
Interesting. I had no "panic" in my dreams...it was pleasurable. I was
smoking agin. Nice taste. But there was no effect on my waking life. I
still don't smoke. Thanks.
I used nicotine patches a couple of times over the past ten years, I
guess. The last time - a year ago - I just went cold turkey.
But with the patches, I had vivid dreams with a certain sense of panic
attached.
I don't ordinarily remember dreams, but I remember the unpleasantness
that I associated with the nicotine pataches.
--
mad
I have beaten what I consider the biggest challenge. Those first 3
days.
Going from a crave every 10 minutes (first day) to every 4 to 6 hrs. I
feel brand new...(yes, that sounds silly). My clothes, hair, fingers
are fresh. Taking full deep breaths with no cough. Paid cable $60
yesterday...the $60 saved on smokes. ($8 to $10 here in New York.)
This "new" me is wonderful and I really didn't realize how different a
person I've become, till now. Don't get me wrong, I'm still a prick,
just not a slave.
I do thank all for the support and I do think of the kind words all
through this mess. I'm not going to declare "smoke free" yet....but
I'm thisclose.
No. Picked up the run on Monday....after a long smoke related lay-off.
Always happy to hear about those who have shaken off the devil.
Yes, I do know how good you feel!
Congratulations! Don't let your guard down.
--
mad
Thanks PJ.
You mentioned sleep. Sleeping very soundly since quitting.
In my 62 years, I've never had a cup of coffee. Love the smell,
though.
My caffeine is Diet Coke. Another addiction.
Yet I still miss it, decades after quitting "cold graphite"...
dmh
I had an addiction first to diet coke, and then switched to pepsi.
It started about 13 years ago. I was up to drinking 3 and 4
big bottles ( larger than quarts-- 2 liters?) a day. About 5 months
ago, the effects of caffeine quit working, so I quit drinking it.
No withdrawl symtoms at all.
Well, tell us what you do, do. If you dare.
Quit everything. Big waste of money. Used to bite my fingernails
up to age 15. Popped knuckles. Been though it all.
Two weeks and still off the butt's. Every once in a while, the urge is
there..but only for a very short time.
$224 pocketed....enough for a new digital four track.
It's nice to breath.
Excellent Ms. Jewel. You can do it.
Thanks for your support and I now support you.
I quit coffee drinking a few years ago. I happened to catch someone
on tv, (one of the health diet advocates), he was asked, if there is
one thing people can change in their diets what would you suggest?
He said if you drink coffee switch to green tea. So, I did. I went
without coffee for a couple of years this way. Anymore I now go out
for a cup each day or so, but it's not like before where I would drink
3 or 4 pots a day. I really haven't perceived much difference.
Someone once told Voltaire that coffee is a slow poison. "It must be,"
he responded. "I've been drinking it for sixty years."
The Arranger
I limit myself to two cups of coffee each morning, no more, ever.
But I am sucking down Diet Mountain Dews the rest of the day. Ah well,
I figure the smoking's a bigger vice and I've got to come to grips with
kicking that first.
>
> Someone once told Voltaire that coffee is a slow poison. "It must be,"
> he responded. "I've been drinking it for sixty years."
>
The great Samuel Johnson (according to his Boswell, Boswell) would drink
up to and beyond twenty four cups of tea a day. Boswell contended that
it had affected his health, and I can't imagine that much caffeine could
have been beneficial for a man with so many nervous tics.
In normal doses and for people in relative health, I don't think coffee
will have many adverse effects, unless it is keeping you awake at night.
I drink one cup in the morning and maybe one in the early evening, and
only once (or twice?) have I awoken with no memory of the previous day
and my leather apron caked in blood.
dmh
Heh...I wish!
I've got my daugher and her boyfriend living with me now. All of us
smokers.
Boyfriend tried to quit the other day. Lasted less than 24 hours with
the other two of us smoking.
They're looking at houses to buy this weekend.
This too shall pass.
How are you doing with kicking the habit? I hope you are still smoke
free. I am very proud of you. Imagine all the money you are saving.
Within ...
20 minutes
Your blood pressure, pulse rate, and the temperature of your hands
and feet will all return to normal.
8 hours
Remaining nicotine in your bloodstream will have fallen to 6.25% of
normal peak daily levels, a 93.25% reduction.
12 hours
Your blood oxygen level will have increased to normal and carbon
monoxide levels will have dropped to normal.
24 hours
Anxieties peak and within two weeks should return to near pre-
cessation levels.
48 hours
Damaged nerve endings have started to regrow and your sense of smell
and taste are beginning to return to normal. Cessation anger and
irritability peaks.
72 hours
Your entire body will test 100% nicotine-free and over 90% of all
nicotine metabolites (the chemicals it breaks down into) will now have
passed from your body via your urine. Symptoms of chemical withdrawal
have peaked in intensity, including restlessness. The number of cue
induced crave episodes will peak for the "average" ex-user. Lung
bronchial tubes leading to air sacs (alveoli) are beginning to relax
in recovering smokers. Breathing is becoming easier and the lungs
functional abilities are starting to increase.
5 - 8 days
The "average" ex-smoker will encounter an "average" of three cue
induced crave episodes per day. Although we may not be "average" and
although serious cessation time distortion can make minutes feel like
hours, it is unlikely that any single episode will last longer than 3
minutes. Keep a clock handy and time them.
10 days
10 days - The "average ex-user is down to encountering less than two
crave episodes per day, each less than 3 minutes.
10 days to 2 weeks
Recovery has likely progressed to the point where your addiction is
no longer doing the talking. Blood circulation in our gums and teeth
are now similar to that of a non-user.
2 to 4 weeks
Cessation related anger, anxiety, difficulty concentrating,
impatience, insomnia, restlessness and depression have ended. If still
experiencing any of these symptoms get seen and evaluated by your
physician.
21 days
Brain acetylcholine receptor counts up-regulated in response to
nicotine's presence have now down-regulated and receptor binding has
returned to levels seen in the brains of non-smokers.
2 weeks to 3 months
Your heart attack risk has started to drop. Your lung function is
beginning to improve.
3 weeks to 3 months
Your circulation has substantially improved. Walking has become
easier. Your chronic cough, if any, has likely disappeared.
1 to 9 months
Any smoking related sinus congestion, fatigue or shortness of breath
have decreased. Cilia have regrown in your lungs thereby increasing
their ability to handle mucus, keep your lungs clean, and reduce
infections. Your body's overall energy has increased.
1 year
Your excess risk of coronary heart disease has dropped to less than
half that of a smoker.
5 to 15 years
Your risk of stroke has declined to that of a non-smoker.
10 years
Your risk of death from lung cancer has declined by almost half if
you were an average smoker (one pack per day). Your risk of cancer of
the mouth, throat and esophagus has now decreased.
15 years
Your risk of coronary heart disease is now that of a person who has
never smoked.
For RichL and all smokers here.
A lot more complicated than I thought. But I really had no trouble
quitting at all. Except for those recurring dreams, I can't remember
having any side effects
Nice Bernie....
Great post, Jimmy. Hope you are doing well.
Jeff
Thanks Beth er Jeff....'-)
An analog 4 tracks sounds warmer.
Jeff
:-)
Great job, Jimmy.