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Prince of Darkness

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Dec 26, 2004, 6:42:18 PM12/26/04
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Self confession - Lennon Diaries.

MacBeatle

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Dec 26, 2004, 8:10:31 PM12/26/04
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Only according to FRED SEAMAN, fella. There's a Court document he
signed a couple years ago that promises he will not under any
circumstances, advance his nefarious false theories of what was in the
diaries he STOLE -- upon pain of INCARCERATION... so if you think you
can perpetuate this rumour or any other piece of shite disinformation
about JL, YO or me -- think AGAIN, got it?

Francie Schwartz
"There is no Sandy Claws."
(George G. Battle Liddy, FOB)

Marek Girsch

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Dec 26, 2004, 8:20:02 PM12/26/04
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His mother did have a nice set of coconuts

LongTallSally11

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Dec 26, 2004, 8:24:48 PM12/26/04
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>Subject: Lennon - I wan Fuck me Mother.
>From: Prince of Darkness p...@aol.com
>Date: 12/26/2004 6:42 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <u%Hzd.3698$Y8....@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com>

>
>Self confession - Lennon Diaries.

Someone has been cloning my screen name ever since
I posted an article about Sean Strub. If Mr. Strub is behind it,
please stop.

"Sean Strub - Chapman's primary accuser"
http://www.jfkmontreal.com/john_lennon/Usenet/Strub.htm

Now this "Prince of Darkness" guy shows up.
Looks like more gay humor.

I encourage fans of John Lennon to write or call
Sean Strub and ask him to come clean about the his
involvement in John Lennon's murder.

I also encourage members of the NYPD to contact
Sean Strub as well.

Salvador Astucia


===
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Prince of Darkness

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Dec 26, 2004, 8:35:28 PM12/26/04
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Sorry Feller, But these are in his own words from his own voice.

Prince of Darkness

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Dec 27, 2004, 8:07:24 AM12/27/04
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Mike

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Dec 27, 2004, 8:48:57 PM12/27/04
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Prove that he said that. With no proof, you are just another mindless
troll looking to raise the possible dandruff of Lennon fans.

"Some of you sitting there with your cock in your hand, don't get you
nowhere, don't make you a man."

Earl Kliethermes

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Dec 27, 2004, 11:54:05 PM12/27/04
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>Subject: Re: Lennon - I wan Fuck me Mother.
>From: theduke...@webtv.net (Mike)
>Date: 12/27/2004 7:48 PM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: <19889-41...@storefull-3278.bay.webtv.net>

>
>Prove that he said that. With no proof, you are just another mindless
>troll looking to raise the possible dandruff of Lennon fans.
>
"Possible dandruff"?

.
Oh World, the beauty you hide
We have to crawl beneath to reach the other side
Then plunge the inner depths, to escape our spiritual death
And elude the faithful recruiters who missed the point by miles

Mike

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Dec 28, 2004, 12:24:03 AM12/28/04
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Dandruff meaning attention or even arguments from various Lennon fans. I
know it's a strange expression but I come from a very strange family so
that's my excuse and I'm sticking with it. :)

MacBeatle

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Dec 28, 2004, 12:42:26 AM12/28/04
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Semenboy's words, from Semenboy's lying sack o shit voice, and I'm no
Feller.

Your posts can get you in BIG trouble, asshole. There are people who
are sworn to uphold the court ruling I refer to. So shut your stinking
hole before someone puts you in a cell where you belong, pervert.

Can't wait to see what you post when your "idol" MJ gets incarcerated
for molestation! LOL

Prince of Darkness

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Dec 28, 2004, 3:02:38 AM12/28/04
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He said it. I've got it on his audio diary. In his own voice in his own
words. He was just being honest. I don't think there's a man alive that
hasn't had that idea cross his mind. Most are disgusted with the idea
and others not. Lennon wasn't. But he was thinking of this when he was
15 years old. I don't see it as no biggie. It's typical Lennon. Honest
to a fault. Of course he never expected his diary to become public. But
he should have or didn't care.

Prince of Darkness

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Dec 28, 2004, 3:10:44 AM12/28/04
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MacBeatle wrote:

LOL!

Big trouble huh. Bring it on Francid. You're nuttier than yesterday's
fruitcake and everyone knows it. I know a little about the Lennons. You
know that.

Mike

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Dec 28, 2004, 3:18:31 AM12/28/04
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You have it on audio huh? Why do I get the feeling someone's nose is
growing? Yes I have some audio of Hendrix taking a dump before he died.
Do you believe me?

Maybe some boys have had thoughts like these but not all of them have. I
as a child certainly did not. I get the feeling you did though. Why else
would you post something like this?

Earl Kliethermes

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Dec 28, 2004, 3:38:19 AM12/28/04
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>Subject: Re: Lennon - I wan Fuck me Mother.
>From: theduke...@webtv.net (Mike)
>Date: 12/27/2004 11:24 PM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: <1098-41D...@storefull-3276.bay.webtv.net>

>
>Dandruff meaning attention or even arguments from various Lennon fans. I
>know it's a strange expression but I come from a very strange family so
>that's my excuse and I'm sticking with it. :)

I can relate to that! I only think of Dan Druff, Harp from the Bonzo Dog
Doo-Dah Band. lol

As Grandmother used to say: "Careful you don't step in a hole!"

MacBeatle

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Dec 28, 2004, 3:41:01 AM12/28/04
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Prince of Darkness wrote:


> >
> >>MacBeatle wrote:
> >>
> >>>Only according to FRED SEAMAN, fella. There's a Court document he
> >>>signed a couple years ago that promises he will not under any
> >>>circumstances, advance his nefarious false theories of what was in
> >

> >>>diaries he STOLE -- upon pain of INCARCERATION... about JL, YO or


me -- think AGAIN, got it?
> >

>


> Big trouble huh. Bring it on Francid. You're nuttier than yesterday's

> fruitcake and everyone knows it. I know a little about the Lennons.
You
> know that.
>

Well, that narrows it down for all of us, thank you so much.

I believe we have addresses for both Cherkles *and* Nick Andrews.

Yeah y'know a little about the Lennons... VERY little. I don't have to
bring shit.
You are a boring troll. Now be gone before somebody drops a load on you!

Marek Girsch

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Dec 28, 2004, 3:56:01 AM12/28/04
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John wanted to fuck your mother too he was a mother fucker

Prince of Darkness

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Dec 28, 2004, 6:51:47 AM12/28/04
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Well, Lennon certainly did. And he describes the time when he and Julia
were lying on the bed. He states that he wondered if he should go for it
and reminenced of the time he accidently grabbed her breast. Then he
ponders whether she would do it. If you think of Lennon and his mother
fixation it's not too far out. Thing about it is it's totally true. Do
some research on goggle, slick. It was discussed here a few years ago
because that's when everyone heard it - the audio that is. I still have
it. It was in the diaries. He talks of his childhood and how he felt
different etc. Fairly long thing and made in the mid 70's. Worse case,
I'll email it to you and you can hear it yourself. Ohhh.

Prince of Darkness

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Dec 28, 2004, 6:54:26 AM12/28/04
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MacBeatle wrote:

Nah, Having a good time teasing that bug up your ass Francid. Now go
steal some more material.

Prince of Darkness

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Dec 28, 2004, 7:07:51 AM12/28/04
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Mike wrote:

Here Slick, I found this little tidbit w/o even trying. Kind of backs my
case wouldn't you say?


http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,6344,00.html


New Lennon Book Hard to Imagine?

by Mark Armstrong
Apr 19, 2000, 6:00 PM PT

The way Geoffrey Giuliano tells it, John Lennon's true fantasy may well
have been...snuggling up with Barbara Walters and watching 700 Club?!

Yup, the 46-year-old author has generated plenty of controversy with his
new book on Lennon, which he claims is based partly on the Beatle's
much-talked-about secret journals, and years of research and interviews.

The 270-page tome, titled Lennon in America, makes a host of new--and,
by the way, very bizarre--claims about Lennon's private life from 1971
to 1980.

Among them: that Lennon had a sexual encounter with his mother when he
was 15.

Max Frost

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Dec 28, 2004, 10:05:15 AM12/28/04
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"MacBeatle" <waro...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1104223261.1...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

>
> Prince of Darkness wrote:
>
>
>> >
>> >>MacBeatle wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Only according to FRED SEAMAN, fella. There's a Court document he
>> >>>signed a couple years ago that promises he will not under any
>> >>>circumstances, advance his nefarious false theories of what was in
>> >
>> >>>diaries he STOLE -- upon pain of INCARCERATION... about JL, YO or
> me -- think AGAIN, got it?
>> >
>
>>
>> Big trouble huh. Bring it on Francid. You're nuttier than yesterday's
>
>> fruitcake and everyone knows it. I know a little about the Lennons.
> You
>> know that.
>>
>
> Well, that narrows it down for all of us, thank you so much.
>
> I believe we have addresses for both Cherkles *and* Nick Andrews.
>
Just keep shooting into the dark.


Mike

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Dec 28, 2004, 10:25:02 AM12/28/04
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Ok so you gave me a link. So what? That doesn't prove anything. That
book was written by someone who never even met Lennon. Books like that
are just hearsay for gossip hounds, which is what I think you are. You
strike me as the kind of person who would believe anything he read, and
maybe anything anyone told you. I believe the only reason you posted all
this was to get a rise out of people. Trolls love to do this and it's
their only reason for posting, basically to start shit. You must of been
pretty bored to post a subject matter such as this in the first place.

No thank you on the gesture of you emailing me the supposibly Lennon
audio. I don't care to hear it because those can be faked as well. Do a
google search on hoaxes. Just go back to your Michael Jackson posts.
Troll away Kato, troll away.

Prince of Darkness

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Dec 28, 2004, 3:07:19 PM12/28/04
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Fuck off. You're one of those that could have a stone wall fall on em
and claim it was a pillow. I could care less what you think. You asked.
I didn't.

Mark

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Dec 28, 2004, 3:18:06 PM12/28/04
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Well by "mother" he means Yoko...cuz thats what he called her. He
didnt really mean his mum Julia. Now some may wonder why he wanted to
fuck Yoko...shes certainly not my type. The answer is love folks.

Prince of Darkness

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Dec 28, 2004, 6:11:10 PM12/28/04
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No my hard headed one. He was only 15 and there was absolutely NO doubt
he was speaking of Julia when he spoke of getting an erection and doing
lots of hugging and squeezing and wanting some mommy pussy. His Birth
Mother. Not Yoko.

Mike

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Dec 28, 2004, 6:31:50 PM12/28/04
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Sounds like you got a little chubby for mommy. Dude, one word for
you....therepy.

Prince of Darkness

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Dec 28, 2004, 6:54:52 PM12/28/04
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Mike wrote:

> Sounds like you got a little chubby for mommy. Dude, one word for
> you....therepy.
>


One word for you you - Education. Then THERAPY

Yeah Lennon had a hard on for Julia, Julia.

Mike

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Dec 28, 2004, 7:16:37 PM12/28/04
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I'm done with this thread because you sound like a very strange ranger
and one sick mofo.

Mike

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Dec 28, 2004, 7:13:58 PM12/28/04
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Too bad the song "Julia" was about his mother and Yoko, not just his
mother. You really want to believe he wanted his mother don't you? And
why is that? That's sick. Not all men such as yourself want more from
their mothers than a normal healthy mother-son relationship. Sounds like
you have some serious issues.

Prince of Darkness

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Dec 28, 2004, 8:03:52 PM12/28/04
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Serious issues. They ain't issues my friend. They're fuckin major
concerns of a general mad man. You know you should hear John explain his
life in his words. Because then it doesn't seem so strange. After-all
he barely knew her. To him she was really a good friend more than a
mother. Of course he never did anything. Shit when I was 15 I would
stick my dick in a knothole if I thought it might feel good. My mother
is quite another story. That really is sick but then again she was more
a mom figure by large. I had a cousin I wouldn't mind stickin back then
though.

Prince of Darkness

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Dec 28, 2004, 8:04:48 PM12/28/04
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Mike wrote:

> I'm done with this thread because you sound like a very strange ranger
> and one sick mofo.
>


You got that right. Now run along kid. You hang around me too long I'll
warp your brain.

Mark

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Dec 28, 2004, 8:12:09 PM12/28/04
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> Mother. Not Yoko.

He was only 15 when what. How do you know what he was feeling then.
It was a long time ago...and I doubt you were there. He called Yoko
mother...and he fucked her. Thats how Sean came into this world. So
Im sure he meant Yoko and you just think hes talkin about his birth
mum. If he wanted to fuck his real mother that would be strange...Well
some would say fucking Yoko is strange to. Point. But it aint incest.

PTSD

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Dec 28, 2004, 8:54:46 PM12/28/04
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OK, as terrible as this thread has become I believe that John did indeed
say something about making it with his mom. I have no proof but this
all sounds vaguely familiar. It was some interview where, being John,
he casually tossed it out there, trying to illustrate a point or
something. He didn't say he DID it. He didn't even say he was overly
desirous of it, I think he simply said that it had occured to him.

Like I said, if it's true then it's out there because I believe I've
read it at some point in the past.

Mike

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Dec 28, 2004, 10:31:23 PM12/28/04
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Kid? LOL Thanks for the compliment junior but I'm an old man. Probably
older than you and definitely know better than to even think about
posting a subject matter such as this. I have never seen another ng
where they trash a band or its members so much like some do in this one.
And some of these people call themselves fans. Very sad. What does this
topic have anything to do with The Beatles or their music? Just another
"Let's bring down John Lennon post because we have nothing better in our
lives to do." This ng is shadow of the ng it used to be for sure.

Prince of Darkness

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Dec 29, 2004, 1:55:00 AM12/29/04
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Sorry, but as I have said. It's in his oral diaries. He taped about
1979. He remembered a time he and his mother were laying together on a
bed and the thoughts were occuring he also said he had accidently
grabbed her breast. That's about it. Then he wondered if she would go
for it even if he did.

Prince of Darkness

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Dec 29, 2004, 2:00:21 AM12/29/04
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Mike wrote:

You must have been here all of 5 minutes. Huh?

Lot's of people here have been bitching at each other now since the late
to early 90's. We don't bring it down. We explore every avenue. Almost
all of the regs here are literaly Beatle Experts. Most have actually met
one or more of the Fabs in their life time. With me it was Ringo, and
Paul. I almost met John but missed him by a month. Hell, Francid
actually fucked Paul. Wooh.

Prince of Darkness

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Dec 29, 2004, 2:04:40 AM12/29/04
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Prince of Darkness wrote:

I meant to say late to early 80's. A couple were actually around when it
first came up. It's surely no diferent in the last 8 or 9 years than it
ever was.

Mike

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Dec 29, 2004, 3:13:29 AM12/29/04
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You sure we are talking about the same ng? This ng is a shadow of it's
former self. No way around that, and it's getting worse. Anyone who
would dispute that is blind, or just doesn't care. It is now a sad
little ng of forgeries, trolls and people who just rip each other's
posts apart with no regard. Once and awhile a few tidbits of interest
appear but very few.

Killer Sea

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Dec 29, 2004, 8:11:28 AM12/29/04
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No different at all.

Sue Na Me

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Dec 29, 2004, 8:12:50 AM12/29/04
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Mike wrote:


You sure your name isn't Jeff Mills?

Sue Na Me

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Dec 29, 2004, 8:24:11 AM12/29/04
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Sue Na Me wrote:


NG as usual as far as anyone that's been here longer than 10 minutes can
see. Who the fuck let Mlls out of his safety cage? Look, you people know
when you change his papers ya gotta put him on his leash. Nick! GO CATCH
MILLS AND PUT HIM BACK IN!

BT

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Dec 29, 2004, 1:25:10 PM12/29/04
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> any other piece of shite disinformation

>about JL, YO or me -- think AGAIN, got it?

What do you have to do with the diaries?

Mike

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Dec 29, 2004, 2:42:53 PM12/29/04
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Who the hell is "Sue Na Me?" In fact, what is a "Sue Na Me?" Anytime
someone comes out and says something that makes sense, all the little
weirdos come out of their holes and always have something bizarre to say
about it. My name is Miike not who you are thinking of. I don't even
know who you are thinking of.

Prince Of Darkness

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Dec 29, 2004, 3:00:05 PM12/29/04
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Mike wrote:


Whatever Jeff.

MikeSo

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Dec 29, 2004, 4:11:29 PM12/29/04
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"Mike" <theduke...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:19386-41D...@storefull-3277.bay.webtv.net...

Quit using my name! :-)

Thanks,
Mike
(a real Mike, not to be confused with those who are not Mike but may use
Mike in their posts)


Jeff -

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Dec 29, 2004, 4:23:02 PM12/29/04
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>>theduke...@webtv.net (Mike)

I wouldn't worry about it, Mike. This place is filled with Kooks.

:-)

Jeff

Mike

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Dec 29, 2004, 5:18:56 PM12/29/04
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Ok, my name isn't Mike, even though on my birth certificate it says
Michael but you claim that isn't my name so you must be right eh?
Um....yeah. Whatever. Step away from the crack pipe and everything will
be alright.

Sue Na Me

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Dec 29, 2004, 6:32:33 PM12/29/04
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Prince Of Darkness wrote:

> Mike wrote:
>
>> Who the hell is "Sue Na Me?" In fact, what is a "Sue Na Me?"


Sue Me - Sue You Blues.

Jim Summers87

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Jan 7, 2005, 1:03:07 PM1/7/05
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>He said it. I've got it on his audio diary. In his own voice in his own
>words. He was just being honest. I don't think there's a man alive that
>hasn't had that idea cross his mind. Most are disgusted with the idea
>and others not. Lennon wasn't. But he was thinking of this when he was
>15 years old.


Certainly normal...was his mother attractive? My mother wasn't very good
looking but I can imagine that any teenage boy with an attractive mother has at
least fantasized about having sex with her.......

U_R_Knot_Aloon

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Jan 7, 2005, 5:58:18 PM1/7/05
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To me Julia was merely average. But John was raised by his aunt. His
mother was more of a friend. She had, according to all accounts, a
rather wild streak about her.

Julius

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Jan 8, 2005, 1:08:12 AM1/8/05
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"I don't think there's a man alive that
hasn't had that idea cross his mind."
Wrong-o boyo, even in my horniest hormone addled period of youth.

Salvador Astucia

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Jan 8, 2005, 1:12:40 AM1/8/05
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Peace on earth.

Salvador Astucia

==
Is Chapman innocent? You be the judge:
http://www.jfkmontreal.com/john_lennon/Usenet/Perdomo.htm
Read Astucia's reworked website: http://www.jfkmontreal.com

Kop_A_Plea

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Jan 8, 2005, 1:58:09 PM1/8/05
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Julius wrote:

\
He said Man.

Jeff -

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Jan 8, 2005, 2:51:00 PM1/8/05
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>>jimsum...@aol.com (Jim Summers87)

You've GOT to be kidding? This is not normal.

Salvador Astucia

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Jan 8, 2005, 5:27:02 PM1/8/05
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If the boy doesn't think of his biological
mother in the conventional way that most
people in Western cultures view their mothers,
then it's understandable. From what I've
read, John thought of his Aunt Mimi as
a traditional mother and his real mother
was more like a best friend, someone he
loved very much, but wasn't a mother
figure in the traditional sense. In the
song Julia, he mentions her interchangeably
with the words "Ocean Child," which is the
English translation for the name Yoko,
his Japanese wife.

Of course that doesn't mean anything
other than John was extremely open
with his feelings. After all, most
psychiatrists will tell you a man
typically looks for a potential
wife who possesses attributes similar
to his mother. That's completely
normal. And women generally do the
same thing with their husbands and
fathers. Not a big deal.

Besides, I question whether John
actually made the controversial
statement it in the first place. Having a
recording of someone who sounded like
John doesn't mean it was actually
him. It could be a hoax. From what
I've read, he sometimes got emotional
when discussing his mother. In his
1980 interview with David Sheff, Sheff
noted that he became emotional
when talking about her. It doesn't
make sense that John would casually
tell someone he wanted to have sex
with a person of reverence.

Salvador Astucia

Jeff -

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Jan 8, 2005, 10:59:45 PM1/8/05
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>>Salvador wrote:
>>After all, most psychiatrists will tell you a man
>>typically looks for a potential
>>wife who possesses attributes similar
>>to his mother. That's completely
>>normal.

Yeah, I've heard that it is.

>>And women generally do the
>>same thing with their husbands and
>>fathers. Not a big deal.

Right.

>>Besides, I question whether John
>>actually made the controversial
>>statement it in the first place.

It wasn't a controversial statement..not at the time he made the
statement. It may be now?

>>Having a recording of someone who
>>sounded like
>>John doesn't mean it was actually
>>him. It could be a hoax.

It wasn't a hoax, and it wasn't controversial at all. John said
something like he thought of Yoko
as a wife, something else, and a mother, all rolled into one. There is
nothing weird about this statement at all to me. It also has nothing to
do with John fantasizing about having sex with his mother. Most women
are all these things.

>>From what
>>I've read, he sometimes got emotional
>>when discussing his mother. In his
>>1980 interview with David Sheff, Sheff
>>noted that he became emotional
>>when talking about her. It doesn't
>>make sense that John would casually
>>tell someone he wanted to have sex
>>with a person of reverence.

I can't say I ever understood it. Maybe when he thought of his
mother..he didn't think of her as a mother figure, since he was raised
by his Aunt?
And maybe he thought of what her growing up years were like, since she
died so young? And
maybe he thought of her..as some Goddess..almost as if she had never
really existed..like too good to be true? Sure, maybe all of these
things, but that's a far cry from wanting to have sex with her.

Jeff

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