Francie Schwartz
"There is no Sandy Claws."
(George G. Battle Liddy, FOB)
Someone has been cloning my screen name ever since
I posted an article about Sean Strub. If Mr. Strub is behind it,
please stop.
"Sean Strub - Chapman's primary accuser"
http://www.jfkmontreal.com/john_lennon/Usenet/Strub.htm
Now this "Prince of Darkness" guy shows up.
Looks like more gay humor.
I encourage fans of John Lennon to write or call
Sean Strub and ask him to come clean about the his
involvement in John Lennon's murder.
I also encourage members of the NYPD to contact
Sean Strub as well.
Salvador Astucia
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"Some of you sitting there with your cock in your hand, don't get you
nowhere, don't make you a man."
.
Oh World, the beauty you hide
We have to crawl beneath to reach the other side
Then plunge the inner depths, to escape our spiritual death
And elude the faithful recruiters who missed the point by miles
Semenboy's words, from Semenboy's lying sack o shit voice, and I'm no
Feller.
Your posts can get you in BIG trouble, asshole. There are people who
are sworn to uphold the court ruling I refer to. So shut your stinking
hole before someone puts you in a cell where you belong, pervert.
Can't wait to see what you post when your "idol" MJ gets incarcerated
for molestation! LOL
He said it. I've got it on his audio diary. In his own voice in his own
words. He was just being honest. I don't think there's a man alive that
hasn't had that idea cross his mind. Most are disgusted with the idea
and others not. Lennon wasn't. But he was thinking of this when he was
15 years old. I don't see it as no biggie. It's typical Lennon. Honest
to a fault. Of course he never expected his diary to become public. But
he should have or didn't care.
LOL!
Big trouble huh. Bring it on Francid. You're nuttier than yesterday's
fruitcake and everyone knows it. I know a little about the Lennons. You
know that.
Maybe some boys have had thoughts like these but not all of them have. I
as a child certainly did not. I get the feeling you did though. Why else
would you post something like this?
I can relate to that! I only think of Dan Druff, Harp from the Bonzo Dog
Doo-Dah Band. lol
As Grandmother used to say: "Careful you don't step in a hole!"
> >
> >>MacBeatle wrote:
> >>
> >>>Only according to FRED SEAMAN, fella. There's a Court document he
> >>>signed a couple years ago that promises he will not under any
> >>>circumstances, advance his nefarious false theories of what was in
> >
> >>>diaries he STOLE -- upon pain of INCARCERATION... about JL, YO or
me -- think AGAIN, got it?
> >
>
> Big trouble huh. Bring it on Francid. You're nuttier than yesterday's
> fruitcake and everyone knows it. I know a little about the Lennons.
You
> know that.
>
Well, that narrows it down for all of us, thank you so much.
I believe we have addresses for both Cherkles *and* Nick Andrews.
Yeah y'know a little about the Lennons... VERY little. I don't have to
bring shit.
You are a boring troll. Now be gone before somebody drops a load on you!
Nah, Having a good time teasing that bug up your ass Francid. Now go
steal some more material.
Here Slick, I found this little tidbit w/o even trying. Kind of backs my
case wouldn't you say?
http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,6344,00.html
New Lennon Book Hard to Imagine?
by Mark Armstrong
Apr 19, 2000, 6:00 PM PT
The way Geoffrey Giuliano tells it, John Lennon's true fantasy may well
have been...snuggling up with Barbara Walters and watching 700 Club?!
Yup, the 46-year-old author has generated plenty of controversy with his
new book on Lennon, which he claims is based partly on the Beatle's
much-talked-about secret journals, and years of research and interviews.
The 270-page tome, titled Lennon in America, makes a host of new--and,
by the way, very bizarre--claims about Lennon's private life from 1971
to 1980.
Among them: that Lennon had a sexual encounter with his mother when he
was 15.
No thank you on the gesture of you emailing me the supposibly Lennon
audio. I don't care to hear it because those can be faked as well. Do a
google search on hoaxes. Just go back to your Michael Jackson posts.
Troll away Kato, troll away.
Fuck off. You're one of those that could have a stone wall fall on em
and claim it was a pillow. I could care less what you think. You asked.
I didn't.
> Sounds like you got a little chubby for mommy. Dude, one word for
> you....therepy.
>
One word for you you - Education. Then THERAPY
Yeah Lennon had a hard on for Julia, Julia.
> I'm done with this thread because you sound like a very strange ranger
> and one sick mofo.
>
You got that right. Now run along kid. You hang around me too long I'll
warp your brain.
> Mother. Not Yoko.
He was only 15 when what. How do you know what he was feeling then.
It was a long time ago...and I doubt you were there. He called Yoko
mother...and he fucked her. Thats how Sean came into this world. So
Im sure he meant Yoko and you just think hes talkin about his birth
mum. If he wanted to fuck his real mother that would be strange...Well
some would say fucking Yoko is strange to. Point. But it aint incest.
Like I said, if it's true then it's out there because I believe I've
read it at some point in the past.
Sorry, but as I have said. It's in his oral diaries. He taped about
1979. He remembered a time he and his mother were laying together on a
bed and the thoughts were occuring he also said he had accidently
grabbed her breast. That's about it. Then he wondered if she would go
for it even if he did.
You must have been here all of 5 minutes. Huh?
Lot's of people here have been bitching at each other now since the late
to early 90's. We don't bring it down. We explore every avenue. Almost
all of the regs here are literaly Beatle Experts. Most have actually met
one or more of the Fabs in their life time. With me it was Ringo, and
Paul. I almost met John but missed him by a month. Hell, Francid
actually fucked Paul. Wooh.
I meant to say late to early 80's. A couple were actually around when it
first came up. It's surely no diferent in the last 8 or 9 years than it
ever was.
You sure your name isn't Jeff Mills?
NG as usual as far as anyone that's been here longer than 10 minutes can
see. Who the fuck let Mlls out of his safety cage? Look, you people know
when you change his papers ya gotta put him on his leash. Nick! GO CATCH
MILLS AND PUT HIM BACK IN!
What do you have to do with the diaries?
Whatever Jeff.
Quit using my name! :-)
Thanks,
Mike
(a real Mike, not to be confused with those who are not Mike but may use
Mike in their posts)
I wouldn't worry about it, Mike. This place is filled with Kooks.
:-)
Jeff
> Mike wrote:
>
>> Who the hell is "Sue Na Me?" In fact, what is a "Sue Na Me?"
Sue Me - Sue You Blues.
Certainly normal...was his mother attractive? My mother wasn't very good
looking but I can imagine that any teenage boy with an attractive mother has at
least fantasized about having sex with her.......
To me Julia was merely average. But John was raised by his aunt. His
mother was more of a friend. She had, according to all accounts, a
rather wild streak about her.
Peace on earth.
Salvador Astucia
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He said Man.
If the boy doesn't think of his biological
mother in the conventional way that most
people in Western cultures view their mothers,
then it's understandable. From what I've
read, John thought of his Aunt Mimi as
a traditional mother and his real mother
was more like a best friend, someone he
loved very much, but wasn't a mother
figure in the traditional sense. In the
song Julia, he mentions her interchangeably
with the words "Ocean Child," which is the
English translation for the name Yoko,
his Japanese wife.
Of course that doesn't mean anything
other than John was extremely open
with his feelings. After all, most
psychiatrists will tell you a man
typically looks for a potential
wife who possesses attributes similar
to his mother. That's completely
normal. And women generally do the
same thing with their husbands and
fathers. Not a big deal.
Besides, I question whether John
actually made the controversial
statement it in the first place. Having a
recording of someone who sounded like
John doesn't mean it was actually
him. It could be a hoax. From what
I've read, he sometimes got emotional
when discussing his mother. In his
1980 interview with David Sheff, Sheff
noted that he became emotional
when talking about her. It doesn't
make sense that John would casually
tell someone he wanted to have sex
with a person of reverence.
Salvador Astucia
Yeah, I've heard that it is.
>>And women generally do the
>>same thing with their husbands and
>>fathers. Not a big deal.
Right.
>>Besides, I question whether John
>>actually made the controversial
>>statement it in the first place.
It wasn't a controversial statement..not at the time he made the
statement. It may be now?
>>Having a recording of someone who
>>sounded like
>>John doesn't mean it was actually
>>him. It could be a hoax.
It wasn't a hoax, and it wasn't controversial at all. John said
something like he thought of Yoko
as a wife, something else, and a mother, all rolled into one. There is
nothing weird about this statement at all to me. It also has nothing to
do with John fantasizing about having sex with his mother. Most women
are all these things.
>>From what
>>I've read, he sometimes got emotional
>>when discussing his mother. In his
>>1980 interview with David Sheff, Sheff
>>noted that he became emotional
>>when talking about her. It doesn't
>>make sense that John would casually
>>tell someone he wanted to have sex
>>with a person of reverence.
I can't say I ever understood it. Maybe when he thought of his
mother..he didn't think of her as a mother figure, since he was raised
by his Aunt?
And maybe he thought of what her growing up years were like, since she
died so young? And
maybe he thought of her..as some Goddess..almost as if she had never
really existed..like too good to be true? Sure, maybe all of these
things, but that's a far cry from wanting to have sex with her.
Jeff