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Luis Sandoval

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Aug 18, 1993, 11:42:10 AM8/18/93
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News Flash: Orange County Register (that Orange County California) date:
Tuesday, August 17, 1993 (used without permission):

New Beatles CDs to feature albums of Red & Blue

More than 20 years after the original release on vinyl, Capitol Records will
release "The Beatles 1962-1966" and "The Beatles 1967-1970," also known as
the "Red" and "Blue" albums on compact disc Oct. 5.

Never before released on CD, these two double compact discs contain the
Beatles greatest hits digitally remastered. "Love Me Do," Please, Please Me"
and "She Loves You" remain in the original mono form, while all other tracks
will be in stereo, many for the first time on CD.
^^^^^^

End of article --

Start saving up your nickles and dimes boys and girls!

saki

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Aug 18, 1993, 1:34:38 PM8/18/93
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In article <1993Aug18....@unocal.com> sts...@st.unocal.com
(Luis Sandoval) writes:
>News Flash: Orange County Register (that Orange County California) date:
>Tuesday, August 17, 1993 (used without permission):
>
> New Beatles CDs to feature albums of Red & Blue
>
>More than 20 years after the original release on vinyl, Capitol Records will
>release "The Beatles 1962-1966" and "The Beatles 1967-1970," also known as
>the "Red" and "Blue" albums on compact disc Oct. 5.

How sweet. :-) Someone at Capitol has a great deal of sentimentality...or
a good sense of history. "Love Me Do" was released on 5 October 1962.

--
"This is pure madness," said one middle-aged woman. "There is nothing
spectacular about the Beatles anyway. I am worried for my daughter,
who might go crazy about them."______________________________________
saki (dm...@math.ucla.edu)

David A. Pearlman

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Aug 18, 1993, 3:13:10 PM8/18/93
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In article <1993Aug18....@unocal.com> sts...@st.unocal.com (Luis Sandoval) writes:
)News Flash: Orange County Register (that Orange County California) date:
)Tuesday, August 17, 1993 (used without permission):
)
) New Beatles CDs to feature albums of Red & Blue
)
)More than 20 years after the original release on vinyl, Capitol Records will
)release "The Beatles 1962-1966" and "The Beatles 1967-1970," also known as
)the "Red" and "Blue" albums on compact disc Oct. 5.
)
)Never before released on CD, these two double compact discs contain the
) ^^^^^^
)Beatles greatest hits digitally remastered. "Love Me Do," Please, Please Me"
)and "She Loves You" remain in the original mono form, while all other tracks
)will be in stereo, many for the first time on CD.
) ^^^^^^
)

So Apple/Capitol really have the chutzpah to issue the "Red" album as
a double CD set? An interesting focal point for contrasting the '60's
and '90's. In the '60's the Beatles used Apple to
shovel their money into idealistic ratholes; in the '90's, they're using
Apple to reem their fans. A circle unbroken?

dap
--
David A. Pearlman
Vertex Pharmaceuticals Inc. email: d...@vpharm.com
40 Allston St.
Cambridge, MA 02139-4211 "It's not just an adventure , it's a job..."

Stephen Carter

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Aug 19, 1993, 3:23:37 AM8/19/93
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saki (dm...@math.ucla.edu) wrote:
: In article <1993Aug18....@unocal.com> sts...@st.unocal.com
: (Luis Sandoval) writes:
: >News Flash: Orange County Register (that Orange County California) date:
: >Tuesday, August 17, 1993 (used without permission):
: >
: > New Beatles CDs to feature albums of Red & Blue
: >
: >More than 20 years after the original release on vinyl, Capitol Records will
: >release "The Beatles 1962-1966" and "The Beatles 1967-1970," also known as
: >the "Red" and "Blue" albums on compact disc Oct. 5.

: How sweet. :-) Someone at Capitol has a great deal of sentimentality...or
: a good sense of history. "Love Me Do" was released on 5 October 1962.


In the UK on Sept 28th.

How cynical, they produce them in stereo as a hook for folk to buy
them. I NEVER bought the red&blue vinyl.

Ho Hum.

Bruce Dumes

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Aug 19, 1993, 8:43:01 AM8/19/93
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In article <1993Aug19.0...@syma.sussex.ac.uk> ste...@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Stephen Carter) writes:
>
>How cynical, they produce them in stereo as a hook for folk to buy
>them. I NEVER bought the red&blue vinyl.
>
>Ho Hum.


I have to agree with Steve on this. I have never been able to understand
why people have been so anxious to have these things on CD. Even people
with all the CDs seem to want it.

I never bought the red & blue vinyl either. I *did* buy a tape of the
first one for a $1 and gave it to my daughter, since she didn't
have a copy of all the albums yet. :-)

Bruce

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Joseph Brennan

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Aug 19, 1993, 9:52:30 AM8/19/93
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In article <24vsgl$h...@transfer.stratus.com> b...@pismo.sw.stratus.com

(Bruce Dumes) writes:
>I have to agree with Steve on this. I have never been able to understand
>why people have been so anxious to have these things on CD. Even people
>with all the CDs seem to want it.
>
>I never bought the red & blue vinyl either.

I got the only the blue one, for some reason I can't recall. I get
the impression that many people who became fans after 1973 got started
on these sets, and so they have some sentimental appeal. Us old
fogeys had all the songs already and could scarcely see the point.

It's sad to think, but apparently the case, that it was impossible to
get the Beatles (counting Yoko as John's representative for this
purpose) to agree on a better song selection. Or else no one cared to
do so, which is sadder. Even limiting ourselves to really well-known
songs as the basis, the 1962-1966 set is missing important songs (how
could "I saw her standing there" not be included?) and has a
strangely large proportion of "Rubber Soul" songs.

Issuing the 60-minute 1962-1966 album on two CDs is inexcusable. The
only reason is a bigger profit margin. It is disappointing that Apple
and the Beatles actually want it this way. It well in line with the
marketing of those boxes of CD versions of the single and EPs though.

The press says George Martin remixed or remastered all the songs.
Sigh. I don't know; if he couldn't do it for the main CDs, I don't
know how he did it here. But he's always hated his early stereo work,
up through 1965, and may very well have seized the chance to redo that
much anyway. The 1962-1966 set, the one we'll have to pay much more for
than we should, will be of interest to rare-mix buffs.

I notice "Please Please Me" is listed as mono. Has someone at EMI
finally noticed the mono and stereo are different takes and judged the
mono is better? Does this mean the take used for the mono cannot be
mixed into stereo for some reason, explaining why it wasn't mixed for
stereo the first time either? Will anyone who knows explain it?

Joe Brennan Columbia University in the City of New York
bre...@columbia.edu ("affiliation shown for identification only")

Eric Henderson

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Aug 19, 1993, 1:02:30 PM8/19/93
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Joseph Brennan (bre...@watsun.cc.columbia.edu) wrote:
: I got the only the blue one, for some reason I can't recall. I get

: the impression that many people who became fans after 1973 got started
: on these sets, and so they have some sentimental appeal. Us old
: fogeys had all the songs already and could scarcely see the point.

Exactly. When you're a 5th grader in 1974, there's no way your folks
are going to get you the entire Beatles catalog. At that stage of
life, you also do not feel the need to get own every note the Beatles
ever recorded, so you just get the Red Album, which has all the good
stuff :-).

Brian Harvey

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Aug 19, 1993, 1:34:53 PM8/19/93
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e...@cnd.hp.com (Eric Henderson) writes:
>Exactly. When you're a 5th grader in 1974, there's no way your folks
>are going to get you the entire Beatles catalog.

The question is, how come your *parents* didn't have the complete set?
Or didn't they trust you to handle their records? :-)

Jarret Cooper

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Aug 19, 1993, 2:02:10 PM8/19/93
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In article <1993Aug18....@unocal.com>, sts...@st.unocal.com (Luis Sandoval) writes:

> Never before released on CD, these two double compact discs contain the
> Beatles greatest hits digitally remastered. "Love Me Do," Please, Please Me"
> and "She Loves You" remain in the original mono form, while all other tracks
> will be in stereo, many for the first time on CD.

This BLOWS! These "double CD sets" could easily be ONE double-CD set. At the
very least I KNOW the first one could.

Correct me if I'm wrong...

Bruce Dumes

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Aug 19, 1993, 2:22:12 PM8/19/93
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In article <250djt$6...@agate.berkeley.edu> b...@anarres.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Brian Harvey) writes:
>
>The question is, how come your *parents* didn't have the complete set?
>Or didn't they trust you to handle their records? :-)


Actually, this (more or less) touches on something that I've wanted
to ask the group for a while....

I have three kids, ages ranging from 8 to (almost) 13. They all love
the Beatles. The younger ones love the early stuff, while the older
child tends to prefer Abbey Road and any Ringo songs....don't ask me
why, she's just always liked Ringo! :-).

My question is for the other parents out there. How did you, or how do
you intend on introducing your kids to the Beatles? I wanted to be
careful to avoid the Glenn Miller-ish fights that my father and I used
to have, and *SO FAR* have been able to have my kids like the Beatles
without insulting "today's music" or proclaiming that the sixties was
the best.

Another problem is the inheritance of Beatle stuff. All three kids have
already struck a claim against my albums (although I hope that they are
a bit premature -- ie. I'm not quite dead yet! :-) ). While it's not
like having a collection of priceless paintings, it's still a valid
consideration.

Anyway, I'd be curious to hear the thoughts of other parents out there
and also the impressions of you "younger" readers who learned about
the fabs from your parents.

Phil Miller

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Aug 19, 1993, 2:28:56 PM8/19/93
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Jarret Cooper (jco...@cheetah.csl.uiuc.edu) wrote:

Or they could add more songs.

To the red set add:

I Saw Her Standing There
Twist and Shout (would an outside composer be kosher?)
If I Fell
I Don't Want to Spoil the Party
I've Just Scene a Face
Here There and Everywhere
Good Day Sunshine
Got to Get You Into My Life
etc .....

To the Blue Set add:

When I'm 64
Sgt. Pepper Reprise
Baby You're a Rich Man
Dear Prudence
Birthday
Two of Us
Maxwell's Silver Hammer
etc ......

I'm not trying to pick the best stuff, but just the songs widely
accepted by the fleeting Beatle fans as being the pleasing hits.


philll

Brother Robert

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Aug 19, 1993, 3:05:15 PM8/19/93
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Funny how those things can get stuck in your head. I also picked up the red
and blue albums as a preteen in the mid seventies (my blue album was stamped
on translucent blue vinyl-- pretty cool looking!). By the time I was in
college I'd acquired at least one copy of all the original records and had
snobbishly turned my back on ol' red and blue. One day, though, a friend
wanted to tape the red and blue albums, as they were only a casual Beatle fan
(I feel the shudder propagating along the net). As the collections were
playing, I felt this strange wash of nostalgia. This format had been
integral to my early Beatles experience, and to hear it again was kinda like
going home. <sigh>

Brother Robert

Chuck Anderson

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Aug 19, 1993, 4:10:07 PM8/19/93
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> b...@pismo.sw.stratus.com (Bruce Dumes) writes:

>My question is for the other parents out there. How did you, or how do
>you intend on introducing your kids to the Beatles?

Play their music and let the Beatles introduce themselves.

--
*************************************************************************
Chuck Anderson uucp : uunet!nyx!canderso
Boulder, CO internet: cand...@nyx.cs.du.edu
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Brian Harvey

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Aug 19, 1993, 4:26:18 PM8/19/93
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rm...@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>Funny how those things can get stuck in your head. [...]

> As the collections were
>playing, I felt this strange wash of nostalgia.

Even though I don't think I've ever actually heard the Red or Blue albums,
I know the feeling -- it's the same one I get when I watch A Hard Day's Night.
That was what really got me hooked on the Beatles, although I did see them
on Ed Sullivan first.

The Machman

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Aug 19, 1993, 4:34:40 PM8/19/93
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b...@pismo.sw.stratus.com (Bruce Dumes) writes:

>Anyway, I'd be curious to hear the thoughts of other parents out there
>and also the impressions of you "younger" readers who learned about
>the fabs from your parents.

The first popular song I ever loved was "Hey Jude", of which my parents
gave me a copy when I was very young. Too bad they're not making the vinyl
45's anymore (are they?) because though I still have my original Apple single
of the song, I must say the record is pretty thrashed. I'd want to get
something a little better than that for my progeny. The CD single really
just isn't the same thing.

I remember that at a very early age (born in 1966) I was intrigued with
my parents' copy of the Magical Mystery Tour album, since the cover and
included comic book were along the lines of, if not much more interesting
than, the childrens' records I listened to. Of course the recorded material
was far superior. :)

My advice to parents wishing to instill a love of and devotion to the
Beatles in their offspring: start 'em off early.

-- dave

--
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c-OO
\ "Big Science. Hallelujah"
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Eric Henderson

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Aug 19, 1993, 4:44:28 PM8/19/93
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There is one advantage to owning only the Red, White, and Blue albums
for as long as I did (until last year).

Now that I'm picking up some of the albums themselves (Rev, RS, MMT),
I get to hear all sorts of Beatles tunes for the first time.
"Blue Jay Way" is one cool song. And "Tomorrow Never Knows" ...., wow!


P.S. The MMT booklet is much more fun and enjoyable than the movie
ever actually was. (Don't you hate it when they take a perfectly good
book and turn it into a terribly rotten movie :-).

Christer Gullstrand

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Aug 19, 1993, 3:31:40 PM8/19/93
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In article b...@transfer.stratus.com, b...@pismo.sw.stratus.com (Bruce Dumes) writes:
> My question is for the other parents out there. How did you, or how do
> you intend on introducing your kids to the Beatles? I wanted to be
> careful to avoid the Glenn Miller-ish fights that my father and I used
> to have, and *SO FAR* have been able to have my kids like the Beatles
> without insulting "today's music" or proclaiming that the sixties was
> the best.
>

I agree with you there!
It's impossible to come barging into the room, turn off Michael J.
and put on your stuff.

I have a six year old boy and a one year old girl.
The boy has been enjoying music for quite a while now.
He goes around singing "She loves you".
I play a lot of sixties music and he likes that,
but he likes Michael Jackson and Roxette much more.
He claims that he loves the Beatles, but I now he only wants to make me happy...

I think you have to accept that your children will listen to newer music than you,
but I'm trying to promote the newer music I can listen to.
M.J. and Roxette is OK, hip hop and rap is not...

Another funny thing is that he will play only the latest album by each artist.
He adored the "Joyride" (Roxette) album when he got it (his first CD)
but when "Tourism" came he hasn't been playing "Joyride" even once!

My daughter likes all music, and rocks wildly to Status Quo!!!
She is also a great Led Z. fan... What a gal!

- Christer

Nicole Alana Lazar

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Aug 19, 1993, 7:06:08 PM8/19/93
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I agree!! My parents introduced both me and my younger brother (born 1966
and 1971, respectively) to the Beatles almost as soon as we were old enough to
listen to music. My favorite song when I was about 4 years old was "Let It Be".
Now, I think that my brother and I are even bigger fans than our parents.
Early exposure counts - and I'd say let the music speak for itself, as well.

nic...@playfair.stanford.edu

T J Garratt

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Aug 19, 1993, 5:25:10 AM8/19/93
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In the referenced article, dm...@math.ucla.edu writes:
>In article <1993Aug18....@unocal.com> sts...@st.unocal.com
>(Luis Sandoval) writes:
>>News Flash: Orange County Register (that Orange County California) date:
>>Tuesday, August 17, 1993 (used without permission):
>>
>> New Beatles CDs to feature albums of Red & Blue
>>
>>More than 20 years after the original release on vinyl, Capitol Records will
>>release "The Beatles 1962-1966" and "The Beatles 1967-1970," also known as
>>the "Red" and "Blue" albums on compact disc Oct. 5.
>
>How sweet. :-) Someone at Capitol has a great deal of sentimentality...or
>a good sense of history. "Love Me Do" was released on 5 October 1962.
>

... Nah.... EMI and Capitol want to make as much money as possible
by making people pay for double CD sets ;-)

Tony

Stephen Carter

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Aug 20, 1993, 3:05:29 AM8/20/93
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Bruce Dumes (b...@pismo.sw.stratus.com) wrote:
: I have three kids, ages ranging from 8 to (almost) 13. They all love

: the Beatles. The younger ones love the early stuff, while the older
: child tends to prefer Abbey Road and any Ringo songs....don't ask me
: why, she's just always liked Ringo! :-).

: My question is for the other parents out there. How did you, or how do
: you intend on introducing your kids to the Beatles? I wanted to be
: careful to avoid the Glenn Miller-ish fights that my father and I used
: to have, and *SO FAR* have been able to have my kids like the Beatles
: without insulting "today's music" or proclaiming that the sixties was
: the best.

I too have this problem. I started out with the best of intention
*not* to indoctinate. But the kids actually **LIKE**
Yellow Submarine without realising that it is The Beatles.

In a house stuffed full of 60's pop stuff, how can a kid not at least
ask "What's that Dad/mum".

And, when opportunties arise for an 'exciting' thing - one in a
lifetime chance - you have to take it. Thus when I had the chance to
take my daughter to a Stones concert, to have rather good (!) seats
and to go backstage, what do I do. DO I say "No parental pressure in
these parts" or do I give her a chance of a lifetime? She is
**immensely** and genuinely proud of her autographed 'Frog Song, and
of her signed and dedicated 'Stone Alone' - visitors are almost aways
dragged in to be shown them! (The lad is only 3)

I try to keep a sense of porportion. If one day the kids switch on to
the latest Pop fad, then that's fine by me, and I'll help them get the
musics and even take them to the concerts. All I really ask is that
they don't reject out of hand, and as being of no value, the work that
the Fabs (and the Stones) did/do.

As for what to do when I shuffle off this mortal coil..... One theory
is that one child gets the Beatles stuff, and the other The Stones,
but which! :-

----
Stephen Carter, Systems & Operations Manager, Computing Services,
University of Sussex, Brighton BN1 9QJ, UK : S.D.C...@sussex.ac.uk

"Nothing is Beatle Proof!"

Bryan D. Woolley

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Aug 20, 1993, 8:39:12 AM8/20/93
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I agree with you Bruce! When the red one came out, I waited
until I could buy it at a used lp store and the only reason I
wanted it was because From me to U hadn't made it onto a
CRAPitol album. Having the cd's in their british form have
let me in on what idiots record companies can be(CRAPitol).


Bryan

Bryan D. Woolley

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Aug 20, 1993, 10:46:10 AM8/20/93
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I have to say first that I've got a 3 year old
daughter who LOVES the beatles. She, like her dad,
is nto Paul. One of the first things my daughter ever said to me was "yeah yeah yeah"
sounds hokey, but its the truth. In fact
she calls them YeahyeahBeatles. The first
song she ever sang all the way through was
Goodnight. I wanted her to like the beatles
so I played her yellow submarine, and other
kid songs (All together Now, Octopuss's
Garden, etc.) I also have a video of some
of the Beatle cartoons that ran on Mtv, so
she watches them and the Yellow Submarine
movie. When I think back, I think I got into
the Fabs by watching their cartoons on Sat-
urday mornings too> ("prop man! oh, prop man!")
I bought her some kid tapes of beatles songs
too, although I'd rather she heard the originals! She's also got a tape of the Chipmunks
doing beatles. (Excedrin headache #45!)
For older kids I'm not sure what to tell you..
Maybe you could tape the albums for them?
Bruce, you're lucky your dad was into
Glenn Miller. My dad was into Opera that he'd
play at full volume!!
I think if you want to avoid those kinds of
conflicts, you might try getting into some
of their music. That way you can say "Hey, if
you like this, then you'll love this...")
or something like that. I pray that your kids
are into semi Beatlish bands (cheap trick,
Jelly fish, Lenny Kravitz,etc.) but if they're
into hard core rap...God save you!!!

I realize some of this is on the Young side
for you (comparing 3 year olds to 8-13) but
I figured maybe other parents are tuning in as well.
There are some great kid books about the Beatles
too. One has the words to Imagine with
illustrations of kids of all colors playing,
another is one for older kids (8 year olds?)
about the life of John. I'm sure there are
others...
happy parenting!
Bryan


Kevin R Lynch

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Aug 20, 1993, 1:19:49 PM8/20/93
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In article <2500iu$4...@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> of rec.music.beatles,
Joe Brennan write:

>I got the only the blue one, for some reason I can't recall. I get
>the impression that many people who became fans after 1973 got started
>on these sets, and so they have some sentimental appeal. Us old
>fogeys had all the songs already and could scarcely see the point.

I would say you hit it right on the nose (not the old fogey part, but the
sentimental appeal stuff :-) ). These are the albums (er, tapes) that, in
conjunction with Dick Bartley's Rock and Roll Oldies Show (when he did a two
weekend highlight on the boys), got me hooked on the best group ever to hit the
Rock and Roll Scene. The song selections aren't particularly great, but they
have a very high sentimental value for me. I would assume that this is true for
many of us 'youngsters'.

--

--------------

Kevin Lynch |"Hardware: The parts
krl...@athena.mit.edu |of a computer system that
ly...@mtl.mit.edu |can be kicked."
ly...@odyssey.mit.edu |Jeff Pesis

Robert L Ryder

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Aug 20, 1993, 3:36:52 PM8/20/93
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/* Stuff deleted */

>To the red set add:
>
>I Saw Her Standing There
>Twist and Shout (would an outside composer be kosher?)
>If I Fell
>I Don't Want to Spoil the Party
>I've Just Scene a Face
>Here There and Everywhere
>Good Day Sunshine
>Got to Get You Into My Life
>etc .....
>
>To the Blue Set add:
>
>When I'm 64
>Sgt. Pepper Reprise
>Baby You're a Rich Man
>Dear Prudence
>Birthday
>Two of Us
>Maxwell's Silver Hammer
>etc ......
>
>I'm not trying to pick the best stuff, but just the songs widely
>accepted by the fleeting Beatle fans as being the pleasing hits.
>

How about Things We Said Today? I've always loved that song, but
I don't think it was a great hit. Still, its much better than
some of the songs they chose to put on the Red and Blue. I
definitely agree with I Saw Her..., Dear Prudence, and Birthday.
What were they thinking when they made thes albums. I'd like to
buy the CD's just to have all these songs grouped together in
CD format, but they need to be on single CD's instead of doubles.
Oh Well.


Rob R.


PM Wong

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Aug 20, 1993, 8:56:45 PM8/20/93
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Bryan D. Woolley (vg...@tc.fluke.COM) wrote:

: In article <250gck$b...@transfer.stratus.com>, b...@pismo.sw.stratus.com (Bruce Dumes) writes:
: > In article <250djt$6...@agate.berkeley.edu> b...@anarres.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Brian Harvey) writes:
: > >
: > >The question is, how come your *parents* didn't have the complete set?
: > >Or didn't they trust you to handle their records? :-)
: >
: >
: > Actually, this (more or less) touches on something that I've wanted
: > to ask the group for a while....
: >
: > I have three kids, ages ranging from 8 to (almost) 13. They all love
: > the Beatles. The younger ones love the early stuff, while the older
: > child tends to prefer Abbey Road and any Ringo songs....don't ask me
: > why, she's just always liked Ringo! :-).
: >
: > My question is for the other parents out there. How did you, or how do
: > you intend on introducing your kids to the Beatles? I wanted to be
: > careful to avoid the Glenn Miller-ish fights that my father and I used
: > to have, and *SO FAR* have been able to have my kids like the Beatles
: > without insulting "today's music" or proclaiming that the sixties was
: > the best.

Hey, your article reminded me how my interest in Beatles' music was
enhanced during the Beatles' years. (I was a bit younger than the average
Beatles fab then, I was 10 in 1964). My neighbour who was about 18 played
a lot of Chipmunks singing Beatles. I could not escape from them as he rented
a room of out house, and he kept playing over and over. Then when I was older
(about 13) and started to listen to music, I was so familiar with those
tunes that it was far easier for me to catch up.
So I think if you parents could get hold of those Chipmunks albums, and
the kids (especially the under 10 group) would like them.
I am not so lucky now since my daughter, who is 6, is into todays music,
and the TV had such influence on her. (remember in our days it was all radio)
Moreover we are Chinese, and she does not know English. (Chinsese songs
are the mainstream in Hongkong today whereas when I was a kid, it was English
music that predominated the media !)

PM Wong (Hongkong Baptist College)

MATT SUROWIEC - LUNATIC FRINGE

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Aug 20, 1993, 11:58:00 PM8/20/93
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I'm 20 years old, a second generation Beatles fan. I found out about the fabs
from my Mother, though I don't exactly remember how. She had a lot of the 45s
(I say had not because they're gone but because *I* have them now :) ] and 2
albums, so my initial exposure came from them. Sadly enough, I don't really
recall much about when John died, I was 8 then, more interested in KISS than
the Beatles. But it was that inital exposure that led me to searching flea
markets and garage sales for Beatles records like a scavenger searching for
food. My collection is now quite expansive, and I only have 2 albums on CD,
because I choose to hear the songs the way they were originally heard (imagine
that, someone from the '80's generation who is a vinyl junkie) and it's true
that most of my friends are baffled by my vast record collection of groups
they've never heard of.

I also listen to modern music, like Guns N' Roses, Black Crowes, Soul Asylum,
etc. but my favorite artists are those that my parents listened to, Neil Young,
Chicago, Beatles, Rolling Stones, etc...and it's nice to put those records or
CD's in because I know they won't ask me to turn the blasted stereo down :)

My little sister is 8, and since I've inherited the records from my Mom, and
taped "A Hard Day's Night" "Help", and "Magical Mystery Tour" from TV, I've
taken the job of introducing her to the Beatles. I started by watching the
movie "A Hard Day's Night", but without mentioning anything, or saying, "here
watch this, these guys are the greatest rock band ever", I just put it on
and eventually she stopped playing with her Barbie dolls and became captivated,
Now she knows the words to every song on the soundtrack by heart...


So to echo what another person said on the subject: play the music, and let
them introduce themselves, because what can you really say about them anyway ?
the music was enough for me (at first), and now I've read practically every
book written about them, and have seen every movie except "Let It Be".


MATT


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Joe Ahmann

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Bruce Dumes (b...@pismo.sw.stratus.com) wrote:

: My question is for the other parents out there. How did you, or how do


: you intend on introducing your kids to the Beatles?

: Anyway, I'd be curious to hear the thoughts of other parents out there

Unfortunately, it is hard to instill good musical tastes to kids that
age. They usually go for music that's "hip" and will not listen to their
parent's music until they have an open mind and have had time to recognize
the good from the bad. It sounds like you have exceptional kids if they
already listen to and enjoy the Beatles. I wonder if other kids that age
are listening to the Beatles and other 60's group because of the newfound
"hipness" of the 60's.
We have a 2 and a 3 year old. They really enjoy the Beatles and beg to
hear Baby You Can Drive My Car over and over. They dance like mad and sing along
I can't listen to the rest of the album unless I distract them. They also love
Baby You're A Rich Man and Do You Want To Know A Secret singing along to the
Do Da Do's; really cute:-) Good-natured Ringo is always the best loved since
they knew him first as Mr. Conductor on Shining Time Station.
If you want to start kids out real early there is a lullaby cassete called
Baby Road. There is a baby walking across what looks like Abbey Road and
is a collection of familiar(to parents) Beatle's melodies.
My kids just loved Help and A Hard Day's Night movies. Older kids might
really appreciate The Compleat Beatles which is really a must own for, well,
everyone.
Once you do get your kids to appreciate the Beatles' music and they learn
more about them the real question is how you tell them about the drug thing.
If we are regarding their music as the Most High (no pun intended) are we
sending kids the message that nothing creatively spectacular can be
acheived without the benefit of mind-altering chemicals? I think we need
Paul or Ringo to let us in on how they explained this to their now-adult
children.
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John M. Hanlon

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Aug 23, 1993, 7:58:29 PM8/23/93
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I think the best way to introduce children to the Beatles is through the movie
"Yellow Submarine"--it's an animated film that's unlike any other.
But what's interesting are the world of subjects you can teach your children
about with the Beatles: Different forms of music, the 1960's, surrealism
(in lyrics and the film "Help!") romanticism(Paul's stuff), symbolism (lyrics)
signs (the visual clues that "prove" Paul is dead), conceptual art (John and
Yoko's work), puns and word games (John's lyrics and prose).

I think I learned more about metaphor and symbolism from listening to
the Beatles than I did in school at the time (and certainly more than my friend
who liked KISS did). I can remember how exciting it was, as a young child, to
discover the idea of talking about something, but *meaning* something else.
What still impresses me about The Beatles is that their work is "literary"
(even though I wouldn't call it literature). And, of course, you can dance to
it.

j hanlon

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