Wonderful Christmas Time

[Frank from Deeeetroit]

Sorry Paul, I almost would listen to Yoko sing a bar or two, than your
Christmas song. Sounds like a hung-over father on Christmas morning
playing with his first sythesizer.

Frank

[The Lone Star]

On Dec 3, 8:30 am, Frank from Deeeetroit <dadurwe...@voyager.net>
wrote:

http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/wtf/grand/wtf_animated_gif.gif

[richforman]

On Dec 3, 9:30 am, Frank from Deeeetroit <dadurwe...@voyager.net>
wrote:

People bag on this song a lot but I like the resolute non-
religiousness/seriousness of it and how it's absolutely about nothing
beyond hanging out with friends and family, partying and having a good
winter-time time. Musically it's of a piece with the McCartney II
album and from the same era: kind of experimental, really quirky and
odd-ball, lacks a normal predictable structure, it's more like a
really rough raw demo. I agree, "tinkering around on a synth" as
Macca is wont to do on occassion, is what it sounds like....don't get
me wrong, it's not a great piece, not anywhere on my list of favorite
McCartney songs but it least it's not the least bit ponderous or
treacly. There are many other perennial radio Christmas songs that
bore me or grate on me a lot more.

richforman

[topazgalaxy]

On Dec 3, 9:30 am, Frank from Deeeetroit <dadurwe...@voyager.net>
wrote:

that one is not my favorite tune either.
I would rather listen to John's song for the holiday. I really
like George's song Ding Dong Ding Dong.


Here is a Christmas treat, with Bob Dylan talking and introducing
the song

http://youtu.be/aBh2jvaHX1s


http://youtu.be/F3tJXb3mGT4

They play this in my grocery store all the time as I buy my food.
When I first heard it I thought it was James Brown singing.

[The Lone Star]

On Dec 3, 11:13 am, topazgalaxy <topazgal...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I really
> like George's song Ding Dong Ding Dong.

I do, too!

This unlikely pairing of Bing Crosby and David Bowie produced an
instant classic and a favorite of mine!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADbJLo4x-tk

[Billy]

On Dec 3, 9:30 am, Frank from Deeeetroit <dadurwe...@voyager.net>
wrote:

It was playing just minutes ago at my lunch place. I don't much like
it, but it's probably partly because it's so overplayed this time of
year.

[cuppajoe2go]

About sums it up for me too.

Just about every year I bring up this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PkUWkxGWj0
by Shakin' Stevens. I personally classify it as comparable to Paul's
WCT, but I like it better.

[aveb...@live.com]

On Dec 3, 2:09 pm, Dave U. Random <anonym...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net>
wrote:

> On 12/3/2011 11:55 AM, richforman wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 3, 9:30 am, Frank from Deeeetroit<dadurwe...@voyager.net>
> > wrote:
> >> Sorry Paul, I almost would listen to Yoko sing a bar or two, than
> your
> >> Christmas song.  Sounds like a hung-over father on Christmas morning
> >> playing with his first sythesizer.
>
> >> Frank
>
> > People bag on this song a lot but I like the resolute non-
> > religiousness/seriousness of it and how it's absolutely about nothing
> > beyond hanging out with friends and family, partying and having a
> good
> > winter-time time.  Musically it's of a piece with the McCartney II
> > album and from the same era: kind of experimental, really quirky and
> > odd-ball, lacks a normal predictable structure, it's more like a
> > really rough raw demo.  I agree, "tinkering around on a synth" as
> > Macca is wont to do on occassion, is what it sounds like....don't get
> > me wrong, it's not a great piece, not anywhere on my list of favorite
> > McCartney songs but it least it's not the least bit ponderous or
> > treacly.  There are many other perennial radio Christmas songs that
> > bore me or grate on me a lot more.
>
> > richforman
>

> Christmas is supposed to be about religion: it is the celebration of
> the birth of Christ, not "hanging out with friends and family,

> partying and having a good winter-time time".
>

> But liberal jerk offs such as yourself just don't get that.
>
> Guess that is a good thing if it means all the liberal jerkoffs wind
> up in hell together. And they will be happy because Satan has only one
> channel on the telly: MSNBC.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Jesus said, "Love your enemies", and if you consider "liberals" to be
your enemies, you are failing to heed his direct instructions, and
using the same logic, you would go to hell for that.
See you there!

[really real]

>
> Christmas is supposed to be about religion: it is the celebration of
> the birth of Christ, not "hanging out with friends and family,
> partying and having a good winter-time time".
>

Don't be silly. No one believes that son of god born on xmas day stuff
anymore. The human race has evolved way beyond that. Our xmas trees have
nothing to do with religion.

[Fattuchus]

On Dec 3, 9:30 am, Frank from Deeeetroit <dadurwe...@voyager.net>
wrote:

Paul's singing isn't bad but the song itself and instrumentation is
well below Paul's usual fine standards. The song is amateurish.

[iarwain]

I don't think the song's that bad, I usually enjoy it once a year at
least. It's not great.
Happy Xmas is better, even with the political message stuck in there.

[Dr_dudley]

On Dec 3, 2:09 pm, Dave U. Random <anonym...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net>
wrote:
> On 12/3/2011 11:55 AM, richforman wrote:
>
>
>
>
>

> > On Dec 3, 9:30 am, Frank from Deeeetroit<dadurwe...@voyager.net>
> > wrote:
> >> Sorry Paul, I almost would listen to Yoko sing a bar or two, than
> your
> >> Christmas song.  Sounds like a hung-over father on Christmas morning
> >> playing with his first sythesizer.
>
> >> Frank
>

> > People bag on this song a lot but I like the resolute non-
> > religiousness/seriousness of it and how it's absolutely about nothing

> > beyond hanging out with friends and family, partying and having a
> good

> > winter-time time.  Musically it's of a piece with the McCartney II
> > album and from the same era: kind of experimental, really quirky and
> > odd-ball, lacks a normal predictable structure, it's more like a
> > really rough raw demo.  I agree, "tinkering around on a synth" as
> > Macca is wont to do on occassion, is what it sounds like....don't get
> > me wrong, it's not a great piece, not anywhere on my list of favorite
> > McCartney songs but it least it's not the least bit ponderous or
> > treacly.  There are many other perennial radio Christmas songs that
> > bore me or grate on me a lot more.
>
> > richforman
>

> Christmas is supposed to be about religion: it is the celebration of
> the birth of Christ, not "hanging out with friends and family,
> partying and having a good winter-time time".
>

> But liberal jerk offs such as yourself just don't get that.
>
> Guess that is a good thing if it means all the liberal jerkoffs wind
> up in hell together. And they will be happy because Satan has only one
> channel on the telly: MSNBC.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

oh i don't know. there seems to be some crossPosting going on hear.

i haven't been particularly religious for some time now.

at the same time, i feel that i'm a true believer.

what i like about christmas is how my heart grows three (3) sizes that
day.

and i, i myself, have even been known to carve the roast beast.

best wishes to you and yours,
rdd
___
How the Grinch Stole Christmas! - 3 of 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkDELa8YSqY

The Beatles - Christmas Time is Here Again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt7O2s4I5yM

Bob Dylan - Little Drummer Boy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcXW0Se4HMs

Darlene Love on Letterman (2005)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXVcrWO5FCg

Bruce Springsteen - Santa Claus Is Comin' To Town - 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSgEDKjmT5o

(RIP BIg Man)

[marcus]

> How the Grinch Stole Christmas! - 3 of 3http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkDELa8YSqY
>
> The Beatles - Christmas Time is Here Againhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt7O2s4I5yM
>
> Bob Dylan - Little Drummer Boyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcXW0Se4HMs
>
> Darlene Love on Letterman (2005)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXVcrWO5FCg

>
> Bruce Springsteen - Santa Claus Is Comin' To Town - 2007http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSgEDKjmT5o
>
> (RIP BIg Man)

Hey, don't forget this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8qE6WQmNus&ob=av2e

[Mack A. Damia]

It's a celebration of love and peace on earth, regardless of your
superstitions.

Proudly,
Liberal Jerkoff

[Dr. Strangemonde]

On Dec 3, 8:30 am, Frank from Deeeetroit <dadurwe...@voyager.net>
wrote:

> Sorry Paul, I almost would listen to Yoko sing a bar or two, than your
> Christmas song.

What's this "almost" nonsense? Here's the order in which *I*
would rate the top five solo-Beatle-related winter holiday tunes:

1) Happy X-mas: War Is Over -- John/Yoko
2) Pax Um Biscum (Peace Be With You) -- Ringo
3) Listen, The Snow Is Falling -- Yoko/John
4) Ding Dong, Ding Dong -- George
5) Wonderful Christmastime -- Paul

> Sounds like a hung-over father on Christmas morning
> playing with his first sythesizer.

Actually, that's a better description of Paul's B-side, "Rudolph the
Red-Nosed Reggae". Pretty much dead on, actually!

-- Dr Sockstuffer

[mcnews]

fuk! another year and its time to slag macca's yule tide offering yet again.

yes jesus was born to save our sorry spit. mangers and asses and drummer boys.
i haven't yet the grit (yet) to tilt all of the windmills
but i wish everyone the peace on earth to stand around and be merry at least once in your way
so that you feel a holiday

[topazgalaxy]

On Dec 3, 7:18 pm, Dr_dudley <dud...@cloud9.net> wrote:

> How the Grinch Stole Christmas! - 3 of 3http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkDELa8YSqY
>
> The Beatles - Christmas Time is Here Againhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt7O2s4I5yM
>
> Bob Dylan - Little Drummer Boyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcXW0Se4HMs
>
> Darlene Love on Letterman (2005)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXVcrWO5FCg
>
> Bruce Springsteen - Santa Claus Is Comin' To Town - 2007http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSgEDKjmT5o
>
> (RIP BIg Man)

Perhaps you are more spiritual than religious

In America and perhaps in other countries, I find there is too much
emphasis on acquiring and buying "stuff" especially this time of
year.. I know it helps the retailers but it can be really excessive.
Contentment is really not measured by 'having more' but by 'needing
less'.

[topazgalaxy]

Thanks for sharing this. Does anyone have a film showing Dylan
smiling? This was one nutty video I must say, and even during this
holiday video and song I did not see Dylan smiling once. He also had
his hair covering half of his face during quite a bit of the film. He
seems to always look serious as if he is in pain all the time.

[topazgalaxy]

This is absolutely wonderful. I would never have imagined these two
singers together. David has a really great voice in this musical
format. Thanks for sharing

[Billy]

The keyboard part is almost embarrassing.

[The Lone Star]

``A merry Christmas, uncle! God save you!'' cried a cheerful voice. It
was the voice of Scrooge's nephew, who came upon him so quickly that
this was the first intimation he had of his approach.

``Bah!'' said Scrooge, ``Humbug!''

He had so heated himself with rapid walking in the fog and frost, this
nephew of Scrooge's, that he was all in a glow; his face was ruddy and
handsome; his eyes sparkled, and his breath smoked again.

``Christmas a humbug, uncle!'' said Scrooge's nephew. ``You don't mean
that, I am sure.''

``I do,'' said Scrooge. ``Merry Christmas! What right have you to be
merry? what reason have you to be merry? You're poor enough.''

``Come, then,'' returned the nephew gaily. ``What right have you to be
dismal? what reason have you to be morose? You're rich enough.''

Scrooge having no better answer ready on the spur of the moment, said,
``Bah!'' again; and followed it up with ``Humbug.''

``Don't be cross, uncle,'' said the nephew.

``What else can I be,'' returned the uncle, ``when I live in such a
world of fools as this Merry Christmas! Out upon merry Christmas.
What's Christmas time to you but a time for paying bills without
money; a time for finding yourself a year older, but not an hour
richer; a time for balancing your books and having every item in 'em
through a round dozen of months presented dead against you? If I could
work my will,'' said Scrooge indignantly, ``every idiot who goes about
with ``Merry Christmas'' on his lips, should be boiled with his own
pudding, and buried with a stake of holly through his heart. He
should!''

``Uncle!'' pleaded the nephew.

``Nephew!'' returned the uncle, sternly, ``keep Christmas in your own
way, and let me keep it in mine.''

``Keep it!'' repeated Scrooge's nephew. ``But you don't keep it.''

``Let me leave it alone, then,'' said Scrooge. ``Much good may it do
you! Much good it has ever done you!''

``There are many things from which I might have derived good, by which
I have not profited, I dare say,'' returned the nephew: ``Christmas
among the rest. But I am sure I have always thought of Christmas time,
when it has come round -- apart from the veneration due to its sacred
name and origin, if anything belonging to it can be apart from that --
as a good time: a kind, forgiving, charitable, pleasant time: the only
time I know of, in the long calendar of the year, when men and women
seem by one consent to open their shut-up hearts freely, and to think
of people below them as if they really were fellow-passengers to the
grave, and not another race of creatures bound on other journeys. And
therefore, uncle, though it has never put a scrap of gold or silver in
my pocket, I believe that it has done me good, and will do me good;
and I say, God bless it!''

[The Lone Star]

On Dec 3, 4:47 pm, Fattuchus <fattuc...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Paul's singing isn't bad but the song itself and instrumentation is
> well below Paul's usual fine standards.  The song is amateurish.

I love you, but do you think you are really qualified to pass judgment
on a Christmas song?

[topazgalaxy]

I bet Paul could write a really great Chanukah song if he chose to.
I wonder what a song with Hebrew words in it would sound like with a
Liverpool accent :)

[topazgalaxy]

Does anyone have an article or an interview where Paul judges his own
work ie what does Paul think of this song? Does he think it is one
of his better creations?

[John Doherty]

On Dec 3, 2:09 pm, Dave U. Random <anonym...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net>
wrote:

> Christmas is supposed to be about religion: it is the celebration of
> the birth of Christ, not "hanging out with friends and family,
> partying and having a good winter-time time".
>
> But liberal jerk offs such as yourself just don't get that.
>
> Guess that is a good thing if it means all the liberal jerkoffs wind
> up in hell together. And they will be happy because Satan has only one
> channel on the telly: MSNBC.

Thanks for the holiday cheer! You bring to mind Shaw's observation:
"Christianity's a great idea. Too bad nobody's tried it yet".

But, yes, even though "Christmas" = Mass of Christ, a celebration of
the birth (& eventual death/resurrection) of Jesus, there's probably
plenty you don't know about it.

Beside the nativity scene, nearly everything we associate with
Christmas has (gasp!) pagan origins. Biblical scholars are unanimous
that Christ was NOT born in December. It's just that the Romans
(Saturnalia) and virtually every other people celebrated the winter
solstice starting on December 21st, and the early church understood
that if they couldn't beat them they'd better join them, and make
Jesus the cause of all that holiday revery.

Christmas lights? Ancient Celts built bonfires on the winter solstice,
beckoning the sun to return in Spring on the shortest day (& longest
night) of the year.

Christmas trees? the pre-Christian Germanic people started this one--
grabbing a piece of greenery that still thrived in the dead of winter
to bring into the house, like the Celts a blessing for Spring's
return.

Scandinavians pagans burned the Yule log.

The Romans gave gifts & made merry to celebrate the rebirth of the sun
god on .. December 25th.

Holly & Mistletoe are pagan symbols of female & male sexuality.

Happy Christmas/ War is Over (If You Want It)

[Frank from Deeeetroit]

If one can believe Wikipedia, Paul is embarrassed of this song.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonderful_Christmastime

Frank

[Donna]

On Dec 4, 6:39 pm, John Doherty <j...@johndoherty.com> wrote:
>
> But, yes, even though "Christmas" = Mass of Christ, a celebration of
> the birth (& eventual death/resurrection) of Jesus, there's probably
> plenty you don't know about it.
>
> Beside the nativity scene, nearly everything we associate with
> Christmas has (gasp!) pagan origins. Biblical scholars are unanimous
> that Christ was NOT born in December. It's just that the Romans
> (Saturnalia) and virtually every other people celebrated the winter
> solstice starting on December 21st, and the early church understood
> that if they couldn't beat them they'd better join them, and make
> Jesus the cause of all that holiday revery.
>
> Christmas lights? Ancient Celts built bonfires on the winter solstice,
> beckoning the sun to return in Spring on the shortest day (& longest
> night) of the year.
>
> Christmas trees? the pre-Christian Germanic people started this one--
> grabbing a piece of greenery that still thrived in the dead of winter
> to bring into the house, like the Celts a blessing for Spring's
> return.
>
> Scandinavians pagans burned the Yule log.
>
> The Romans gave gifts & made merry to celebrate the rebirth of the sun
> god on .. December 25th.
>
> Holly & Mistletoe are pagan symbols of female & male sexuality.
>
> Happy Christmas/ War is Over (If You Want It)

I was taught long ago that the giving of gifts was in remembrance of
the gold, frankincense and myrrh given to the baby Jesus by the Three
Wise Men.

If they were lucky enough to find one on sale for $2.00, I wonder if
they would have decided on a waffle iron, instead. :/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkywyGoQ2yU&

[Mack A. Damia]

Manny, Moe and Jack?

[marcus]

Happy Holidays to all.

http://marccatone.webs.com/opinion.htm

[Fattuchus]

On Dec 4, 12:31 pm, The Lone Star <from_me_to_...@comcast.net> wrote:

I "heart" you too! I'm certainly qualified to say if a song appeals
to me or not. I am no musician, but I can render an
opinion about a song such as "the singing is off" or "The lyrics are
childish."

BTW, I don't have to be a believer to say that there are gospel and/or
Xmas songs that I truly enjoy.

Here's one song I like a lot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kC8DmUDB_HM Stomp! Put yo' hands
togetha!

[Fattuchus]

It sounds wonderful. I've heard Danny use words like "tuchus" and
"schlepp."

[John Doherty]

> On Dec 4, 6:02 pm, topazgalaxy <topazgal...@gmail.com> wrote:


> > I bet Paul could write a really great Chanukah song if he chose to.
> > I wonder what  a song with Hebrew words in it would sound like with a
> > Liverpool accent  :)
>

> > > On Dec 3, 4:47 pm, Fattuchus <fattuc...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> It sounds wonderful.  I've heard Danny use words like "tuchus" and
> "schlepp."

Yiddish is an amazingly expressive language; we touch on it in the new
book I illustrated, "Amglish", in a chapter on "The Lishes of Amglish"
on "Yidlish".

One key strength of English is that it readily absorbs new words from
wherever: tech, other languages, etc. It's like a snowball rolling
down a hill, picking up whatever is in the way.

Yiddish is unique in that the holocaust smashed the home base of the
language, and distributed it worldwide, like a block of concrete
smashed to a fine powder that was distributed in a thin layer all over
(largely because of jews in the entertainment business). Other
languages have also disappeared, but have not had this effect of being
more widely distributed than ever, in the moment of their passing.

I'm confess that I'm an "Oyster"-- a "gentile" that uses a lot of
yiddish in conversation (an "oy-ster"). I plotz, and kvell, and can
tell you when someone's a macher. One funny thing about Yiddish, is
that if the eskimos have a hundred words for snow, the jews have a
hundred words for crazy, from endearingly neurotic to clinically
dangerous. I've heard ibbiboddle, sedrayte, oingevuffin, as well as
the familiar mishegas, all of which have a range of subtlety and
application.

In the Christopher Guest film "A Mighty Wind" , (a satire about a PBS
folk music reunion) there was a great portrait of an Oyster in
overdrive. Ed Begley Jr. played a promoter with no actual jewish blood
who peppers all his talk with constant yiddishisms. " The joke is of
course that the very tall nordic looking Begley couldn't look less
jewish.

One other great use of Yiddish recently was the haunting prologue of
"A Serious Man", the Coen brothers 60s era "Job" story taking place in
the Minnesota burbs. They use a prologue set in a shtetl in a time
that could be a hundred years ago, or five hundred years ago. The
connection to the rest of the film is subtle. I've heard from jews who
hated the film, but pretty much everyone loves the prologue, which is
entirely in Yiddish with subtitles. It's a world from which most
American jews derived, but it seems closer to the Lord of the Rings
than modern America:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1R-zbgb5i0

I recommend the whole film, but the prologue is there for those who
won't hang in for it.

John Doherty
"Amglish, in Like Ten Easy Lessons..."
<http://www.amazon.com/Amglish-Like-Ten-Easy-Lessons/dp/
1442211679>www.amazon.com/Amglish-Like-Ten-Easy-Lessons/dp/1442211679

[Mack A. Damia]

Ever read the DSM?

We have more than a hundred words for "crazy", mentally disturbed or
personality disorder.

Schizoid, Schizotypal, Obessive-compulsive, psychotic, neurotic,
anti-social, psychopathic, borderline, sociopath, passive,
passive-aggressive ....just to name a few.

[Fattuchus]

On Dec 5, 9:16 am, John Doherty <j...@johndoherty.com> wrote:
> > On Dec 4, 6:02 pm, topazgalaxy <topazgal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I bet Paul could write a really great Chanukah song if he chose to.
> > > I wonder what  a song with Hebrew words in it would sound like with a
> > > Liverpool accent  :)
>
> > > > On Dec 3, 4:47 pm, Fattuchus <fattuc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > It sounds wonderful.  I've heard Danny use words like "tuchus" and
> > "schlepp."
>
> Yiddish is an amazingly expressive language; we touch on it in the new
> book I illustrated, "Amglish", in a chapter on "The Lishes of Amglish"
> on "Yidlish".
>
> One key strength of English is that it readily absorbs new words from
> wherever: tech, other languages, etc. It's like a snowball rolling
> down a hill, picking up whatever is in the way.
>
> Yiddish is unique in that the holocaust smashed the home base of the
> language, and distributed it worldwide, like a block of concrete
> smashed to a fine powder that was distributed in a thin layer all over
> (largely because of jews in the entertainment business).

IMO Yiddish was spread to the US and some other parts of the world not
only from the Holocaust,
but from the immigration of Jews escaping Tsarist Russia in the late
19th century and early 20th
century. Thousands of Jews came to the Us and settled in NYC and
elsewhere before the
Holocaust.

[Fattuchus]

On Dec 5, 9:16 am, John Doherty <j...@johndoherty.com> wrote:

Yes, Yiddish is very expressive. I knew of only one word for crazy:
meshuggah.
I never heard of the others.

[JohnB]

Christian preachers like to use this tale but many say it is just a
convenient tale and that the gift giving is derived from a pagan
tradition. The church's leaders over many centuries have adopted the
ritual calendar and sometimes the rituals themselves of pagan
tradition. It was hard enough converting people to Christianity
without asking them to give up feast days and feel-good traditions as
well.
I've heard it said that Father Christmas himself is derived from the
pagan Green Man and was originally lots of colours, not just red.
(Some people blame Coca-Cola for the universal adoption of red.)
You'll also find the Green Man and many other pagan symbols (some
quite rude!) in the decoration around many old European churches.

BTW, Wonderful Christmas Time is pretty awful IMHO. John's Christmas
song is far better.

[who?]

Parts of it sound like a re-write of Hello Goodbye
to me.

[topazgalaxy]

On Dec 3, 9:30 am, Frank from Deeeetroit <dadurwe...@voyager.net>
wrote:
> Sorry Paul, I almost would listen to Yoko sing a bar or two, than your
> Christmas song.  Sounds like a hung-over father on Christmas morning
> playing with his first sythesizer.
>
> Frank

Getting back (no pun intended) to a post that is closer to the topic
of this thread, I found this song recently when someone played it for
me


http://youtu.be/6Oy5_NW_zP0

If you ever wanted to 'imagine' a Xmas song that is a mixture of
Jingle Bells and Tomorrow Never Knows , well, here it is (link
above). Unique to say the least.


More Christmas songs done Beatles style... "Hark" done in the style
of Help-- nice little film too!!

http://youtu.be/pJXMKt2UYA4

Rudolph the Red Nosed Raindeer done a la I Saw Her Standing There


http://youtu.be/kBTIiVdPlzE

People can find more Xmas songs by this Beatles impersonation
group on youtube...have fun. See the end of the video at the above
link for more video links to Christmas songs done in a Beatles style.
Maybe our stores should play these tunes instead of the same Christmas
songs over and over....

"Let It Snow, Let It Snow" "Beatles " style a la 8 Days a Week. I
like the harmonies in this one


http://youtu.be/jcSJ_78yaf4


Have fun!!!!

[topazgalaxy]

This group performed in Australia last year and I wonder if they were
in a show with the Beatels or if there was some kind of Beatlesfest.
(the Fab Four)


http://youtu.be/Ed039rlLWgY

[topazgalaxy]

On Dec 4, 6:55 pm, Frank from Deeeetroit <dadurwe...@voyager.net>

wrote:
> On Dec 4, 6:00 pm, topazgalaxy <topazgal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 4, 9:29 am, Billy <billybartlet...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 3, 5:47 pm, Fattuchus <fattuc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Dec 3, 9:30 am, Frank from Deeeetroit <dadurwe...@voyager.net>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > Sorry Paul, I almost would listen to Yoko sing a bar or two, than your
> > > > > Christmas song.  Sounds like a hung-over father on Christmas morning
> > > > > playing with his first sythesizer.
>
> > > > > Frank
>
> > > > Paul's singing isn't bad but the song itself and instrumentation is
> > > > well below Paul's usual fine standards.  The song is amateurish.
>
> > > The keyboard part is almost embarrassing.
>
> > Does anyone have  an article or an interview where Paul judges his own
> > work ie what does Paul think of this song?   Does he think it is one
> > of his better  creations?
>
> If one can believe Wikipedia, Paul is embarrassed of this song.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonderful_Christmastime
>
> Frank

thanks

[topazgalaxy]

On Dec 4, 6:39 pm, John Doherty <j...@johndoherty.com> wrote:

I agree with your post. The true spirit of peace on earth, etc, gets
lost today as shoppers at Target and Walmart use pepper spray and
brute force to grab the items they want to buy.
With what is happening at some of the stores, it is more like the
Maccabees fighting Antiochus.

[topazgalaxy]

On Dec 4, 9:38 pm, marcus <marcus...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Happy Holidays to all.
>
> http://marccatone.webs.com/opinion.htm

Yes and you as well!

[topazgalaxy]

Your chosen video is excellent, very powerful and moving and
energizing.

Here is one of my favorite spiritual videos, perfect for Christmas or
Easter IMO. Wish I could sing like the lead singer

http://youtu.be/M9glxzl-s5c


Yay Brooklyn Tabernacle Choir.

[Dr. Strangemonde]

On Dec 5, 2:40 pm, topazgalaxy <topazgal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Have fun!!!!

Ahhh! I think this is the CD I've been looking for -- I love the
"Beatmas" one (look them up on Utube, too) but I'd heard another 2
years ago with some even better stuff on it!

PS: Ringo himself does "Little Drummer Boy" as "Back Off Boogaloo" --
or is it vice versa? -- on his "I wanna Be Santa Claus" album. It's as
good as all this stuff, too!

- Dr Stingtrinsel

[Dr_dudley]

On Dec 3, 7:43 pm, marcus <marcus...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Dec 3, 7:18 pm, Dr_dudley <dud...@cloud9.net> wrote:
>
>

> > Bob Dylan - Little Drummer Boyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcXW0Se4HMs
>
>
> Hey, don't forget this one.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8qE6WQmNus&ob=av2e

i hadn't forgotten; thnaks for the link.

Now, for 1500 bonus points:

who on the recorded track is actually playing the accordion, and who
is "lipsynching" on the video?

(TBH, i don't recall the second part)

[ermitano]

i don't if that's true.. cos paul did it recently at concert
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SR6L4OLBF0

[topazgalaxy]

I am glad you enjoyed the music

[treadleson]

On Dec 3, 2:09 pm, Dave U. Random <anonym...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net>
wrote:

-=-=
>
> > richforman

>
> Christmas is supposed to be about religion: it is the celebration of
> the birth of Christ, not "hanging out with friends and family,
> partying and having a good winter-time time".
>
> But liberal jerk offs such as yourself just don't get that.

Religion is about a lot of things. But God isn't one of them.

[Mack A. Damia]

On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 19:52:11 -0800 (PST), treadleson
<trea...@aol.com> wrote:

>On Dec 3, 2:09 pm, Dave U. Random <anonym...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net>
>wrote:
>-=-=
>>
>> > richforman
>>
>> Christmas is supposed to be about religion: it is the celebration of
>> the birth of Christ, not "hanging out with friends and family,
>> partying and having a good winter-time time".
>>
>> But liberal jerk offs such as yourself just don't get that.
>
>Religion is about a lot of things. But God isn't one of them.

Your opinion?

[treadleson]

--

> I agree with your post.  The true spirit of peace on earth, etc, gets
> lost today as shoppers at Target and Walmart use pepper spray and
> brute force to grab the items they want to buy.
> With what is happening at some of the stores, it is more like the
> Maccabees   fighting Antiochus.

Well, I tell you , kitten--you've got the 1920s, FDR, and John M.
Keynes to thank for this development. The 20s is about the time the
country stopped expanding, conquered mass production, and adopted
consumerism as the font of all individual happiness. It didn't have to
be this way. It's not in the Constitution. But it happened anyway.

The bottom fell out. How could it not? FDR thought the answer was to
revive the mass production economy. Keynes gave him the tools. That
was bad enough. What's going on now can only be called a cruel parody
of the FDR thinking. (I use FDR as a catch all. It was lots of leading
people.)

[Mack A. Damia]

Randian philosophy reveals capitalism as rank narcissism. We knew at
least fifty years ago that developing nations would eventually equal
and, perhaps, surpass the U.S. in production. The vast infrastructure
created for WW2 had to be used for something, so it was used to
develop a consumer economy. As William Gasser said, we moved from a
goal-oriented production society to a role-oriented identity society
with baubles and beads being the marks of success. Other countries
looked, laughed and kept on working.

Now the capitalists have realized that outsourcing American jobs will
make up for profits lost because of the nature of U.S. society, which
had become as Rand would have wanted - narcissistic. She forgot about
the rest of the world.

You can read more about it in Riesman's *The Loney Crowd* and Lasch's
*The Culture of Narcissim*.

[treadleson]

On Dec 6, 10:55 pm, Mack A. Damia <mybaconbu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 19:52:11 -0800 (PST), treadleson
>

> <treadl...@aol.com> wrote:
> >On Dec 3, 2:09 pm, Dave U. Random <anonym...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net>
> >wrote:
> >-=-=
>
> >> > richforman
>
> >> Christmas is supposed to be about religion: it is the celebration of
> >> the birth of Christ, not "hanging out with friends and family,
> >> partying and having a good winter-time time".

-=-=

> >> But liberal jerk offs such as yourself just don't get that.
>
> >Religion is about a lot of things. But God isn't one of them.
>
> Your opinion?

I really don't have any opinion about it except that people expend a
lot of needless energy on the God exists, No He doesn't debates.

[treadleson]

I like Reisman and Lasch. They were influential. But I think they were
hitting the consequences more. The consumer thing came into full
flower with mass production and before WW2, here at any rate. And
we're still in the echo of the teens and twenties in this department.
Narcissistic is probably a natural consequence, but as with a lot of
sociology, analyzing the characterological effects of these big forces
was probably over done. Alienation, other distractedness, narcissism,
etc., was great raw material for psychiatry and psychotherapy--and
Woody Allen scripts--but didn't have much to do with the phenomenon.
For that, I think one has to go earlier, to Ortega y Gasset or Van
Wyck Brooks. Sometimes people forget the close ties between mass
production and education, public and private. It's probably no
accident that the crisis in US education has been happening in this
recent era.

[abe slaney]

On Dec 5, 10:31 pm, "Dr. Strangemonde" <danc...@realtime.net> wrote:

This is my favorite of this ilk - the vocal impersonations are not as
close as some other sound-alike bands, but I think some of the
arrangements and concepts are pretty clever.
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/butties

[Mack A. Damia]

I'm almost ready for bed. I hit the sack usualy rather early; then,
I'm up early, too., but don't you think that the crisis in U.S.
education started in the 1960s? Some of my working career has been a
teacher in places such as Harlem, Crown Heights and Brownsville,
Brooklyn. Compared to when I was in school duing the 1950's and early
1960s, there was no discipline when I was teaching, and the parents
didn't give a hoot. We were, in effect, babysitting for these little
darlings. In my day, when you got into trouble in school, you got
into trouble at home.

We used to be more group-oriented, too, but American society has sunk
to a level of "every man for himself"; hence, the culture of
narcissism.

[Mack A. Damia]

My simplistic answer is that God is the totality of ALL energy in the
universe.

How can an atheist argue with that?

[treadleson]

On Dec 7, 12:46 am, Mack A. Damia <mybaconbu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 21:22:30 -0800 (PST), treadleson
>
>
>

> <treadl...@aol.com> wrote:
--

> Alienation, other distractedness, narcissism,
> >etc., was great raw material for psychiatry and psychotherapy--and
> >Woody Allen scripts--but didn't have much to do with the phenomenon.
> >For that, I think one has to go earlier, to Ortega y Gasset or Van
> >Wyck Brooks. Sometimes people forget the close ties between mass
> >production and education, public and private. It's probably no
> >accident that the crisis in US education has been happening in this
> >recent era.

I meant "other-directedness."

---

>, but don't you think that the crisis in U.S.
> education started in the 1960s?

Sure.

--

> Some of my working career has been a
> teacher in places such as Harlem, Crown Heights and Brownsville,
> Brooklyn.  Compared to when I was in school duing the 1950's and early
> 1960s, there was no discipline when I was teaching, and the parents
> didn't give a hoot.  We were, in effect, babysitting for these little
> darlings.  In my day, when you got into trouble in school, you got
> into trouble at home.

True.

If you're talking about disadvantaged kids in Bklyn, lots never had a
chance. Then it got worse.

Northern racism has always been particularly sadistic because it was
committed under the pretense of equality and fairness and the
brotherhood of man. But the proof of the pudding was in the eating.

On top of that, only a part of King's dream was listened to, the part
about little children walking together hand in hand. The central part
was ignored, the part about the promissory note. The promissory note
referred to equality of economic chances, not equality for its own
sake. The point was made in the line about the prof. who spouts that
liberty is just equality in schools. But it's not.

--

> We used to be more group-oriented, too, but American society has sunk
> to a level of "every man for himself"; hence, the culture of
> narcissism.

But this isn't new.

[treadleson]

On Dec 7, 12:47 am, Mack A. Damia <mybaconbu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 21:10:52 -0800 (PST), treadleson
>
>
>
> <treadl...@aol.com> wrote:
> >On Dec 6, 10:55 pm, Mack A. Damia  <mybaconbu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 19:52:11 -0800 (PST), treadleson
>
> >> <treadl...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> >On Dec 3, 2:09 pm, Dave U. Random <anonym...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net>
> >> >wrote:
> >> >-=-=
>
> >> >> > richforman
>
> >> >> Christmas is supposed to be about religion: it is the celebration of
> >> >> the birth of Christ, not "hanging out with friends and family,
> >> >> partying and having a good winter-time time".
> >-=-=
> >> >> But liberal jerk offs such as yourself just don't get that.
>
> >> >Religion is about a lot of things. But God isn't one of them.
>
> >> Your opinion?
>
> >I really don't have any opinion about it except that people expend a
> >lot of needless energy on the God exists, No He doesn't debates.

--

> My simplistic answer is that God is the totality of ALL energy in the
> universe.
>
> How can an atheist argue with that?

But God is a distraction.

It's even more of a distraction for those who preach God the loudest.
They molest young boys while attacking non-believers or even
struggling with their own belief.

[johnty]

Which god? Or is all of them?

[Mack A. Damia]

If you look at the first half of the 20th Century, it was one crisis
after another, and those almost forced us to work together for a
common purpose. World War I followed by the Great Depression followed
by World War II, and then even Korea.

The Vietnam expereince divided us, and we've all been pretty much on
our own ever since - along with the increase in geographical mobility,
automobiles, suburbia, the consumer economy and so forth.

The latter half of the 20th Century probably brought more change to
America and the world than the preceding 10,000 years.

[Mack A. Damia]

On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 22:45:03 -0800 (PST), treadleson
<trea...@aol.com> wrote:

>On Dec 7, 12:47�am, Mack A. Damia <mybaconbu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 21:10:52 -0800 (PST), treadleson
>>
>>
>>
>> <treadl...@aol.com> wrote:
>> >On Dec 6, 10:55 pm, Mack A. Damia �<mybaconbu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 19:52:11 -0800 (PST), treadleson
>>
>> >> <treadl...@aol.com> wrote:
>> >> >On Dec 3, 2:09 pm, Dave U. Random <anonym...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net>
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >-=-=
>>
>> >> >> > richforman
>>
>> >> >> Christmas is supposed to be about religion: it is the celebration of
>> >> >> the birth of Christ, not "hanging out with friends and family,
>> >> >> partying and having a good winter-time time".
>> >-=-=
>> >> >> But liberal jerk offs such as yourself just don't get that.
>>
>> >> >Religion is about a lot of things. But God isn't one of them.
>>
>> >> Your opinion?
>>
>> >I really don't have any opinion about it except that people expend a
>> >lot of needless energy on the God exists, No He doesn't debates.

I don't proselytize or get into arguments. It's what I believe, and I
think there is ample proof.

The mistake many make is that they fail to define what they are trying
to understand. "Energy" (God) is neither good nor evil, and it cannot
be destroyed. We know scientifically that there was an enormous
explosion billions of years ago that resulted in our universe. It's
specious and fruitless to ask what happened before that explosion, but
I believe energy always existed in one form or another.

I guess I am proselytizing.

[topazgalaxy]

Very enjoyable, thanks

[Billy]

He could say that's a funny definition. Do you pray to this totality
of energy? Is it conscious?

[Nil]

On 07 Dec 2011, johnty <joh...@hotmail.com> wrote in
rec.music.beatles:

> Which god? Or is all of them?

Will the real god please stand up?

[marcuscp]

On Dec 7, 11:53 pm, Nil <redno...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:
> On 07 Dec 2011, johnty <john...@hotmail.com> wrote in

> rec.music.beatles:
>
> > Which god?   Or is all of them?
>
> Will the real god please stand up?

"I didn't recognize you standing up."

[Mack A. Damia]

Are you conscious? Is there energy within you? Is there energy in a
block of wood? Is there any difference?

What exactly is he saying doesn't exist? What is "God"?

[Mack A. Damia]

The devil made him do it.

[who?]

God made your ass and he's a distraction?

[treadleson]

On Dec 7, 8:25 am, Mack A. Damia <mybaconbu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 04:34:36 -0800 (PST), Billy
>
>
>
>
>
> <billybartlet...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Dec 7, 12:47 am, Mack A. Damia  <mybaconbu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 21:10:52 -0800 (PST), treadleson
>
> >> <treadl...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> >On Dec 6, 10:55 pm, Mack A. Damia <mybaconbu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 19:52:11 -0800 (PST), treadleson
>
> >> >> <treadl...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> >> >On Dec 3, 2:09 pm, Dave U. Random <anonym...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net>
> >> >> >wrote:
> >> >> >-=-=
>
> >> >> >> > richforman
>
> >> >> >> Christmas is supposed to be about religion: it is the celebration of
> >> >> >> the birth of Christ, not "hanging out with friends and family,
> >> >> >> partying and having a good winter-time time".
> >> >-=-=
> >> >> >> But liberal jerk offs such as yourself just don't get that.
>
> >> >> >Religion is about a lot of things. But God isn't one of them.
>
> >> >> Your opinion?
>
> >> >I really don't have any opinion about it except that people expend a
> >> >lot of needless energy on the God exists, No He doesn't debates.

-=-=

> >> My simplistic answer is that God is the totality of ALL energy in the
> >> universe.
>
> >> How can an atheist argue with that?
>
> >He could say that's a funny definition.  Do you pray to this totality
> >of energy?  Is it conscious?
>
> Are you conscious?  Is there energy within you?  Is there energy in a
> block of wood?  Is there any difference?
>
> What exactly is he saying doesn't exist?  What is "God"?

This shows how quickly talk about God devolves into competing
assertions about God's existence, non-existence, semi-existence, etc.
They're just assertions. It shows how God is a distraction, a
smokescreen. It's used to avoid talking about more mundane, down-to-
earth things like how people treat each other.

That doesn't mean not to talk about God or that there's no God.
Whether there's God or no God, whether man-like or pure energy,
doesn't matter that much because people still have to deal with other
as humans.

[Mack A. Damia]

That's right, but it's important to realize that there is a Superior
Power in the universe. It generates "respect" for life. If you don't
believe me, stick your finger into an electrical socket. That's God
at work.

Don't know about Ringo, but the other three recognized it. John -
"Instant Karma"; George - "My Sweet Lord" (and others); Paul - "Let it
Be". There must be others.

[treadleson]

--

> God made your ass and he's a distraction?

Yeah.

[Mack A. Damia]

Energy is neutral; so God is, too.

Energy in the context of human organisms have free will; energy can
become evil depending on motivation and conscience.

An avalanche or a tornado does not have free will; yet, they are God
in action.

[marcus]

> people.)-

For a rather clear, level-headed analysis of what has happened to this
county, economically speaking, for the last 100 years, listen to
President Obama's speech in Kansas yesterday. Equally understandable
by PhD and assembly line workers alike.

[marcus]

On Dec 7, 1:45 am, treadleson <treadl...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> But God is a distraction.

I thought that God was a concept by which we measure our pain.

[marcus]

On Dec 7, 7:53 am, Nil <redno...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:
> On 07 Dec 2011, johnty <john...@hotmail.com> wrote in

> rec.music.beatles:
>
> > Which god?   Or is all of them?
>
> Will the real god please stand up?

Suddenly, Donald Trump stands up from his seat.

[who?]

Yeah?

[treadleson]

Oh yeah.

[who?]

Remember it was McCartney's parents (?) who
thought he should be singing: "She loves you
yes, yes yes"? Sounds corny.

[Donna]

On Dec 7, 9:41 am, Mack A. Damia <mybaconbu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Don't know about Ringo, but the other three recognized it.  John - "Instant Karma";

I remember May once telling me that John definitely believed in God,
and that the two of them would have discussions about it.

> George - "My Sweet Lord" (and others); Paul - "Let it Be".  There must be others.

Why do you feel that "Let It Be" shows that Paul recognized God? The
song is about a dream that Paul had about his mom giving him advice.
It's not about the mother of Jesus, if that's what you're thinking.

[Dr. Strangemonde]

On Dec 6, 11:32 pm, abe slaney <abesla...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> This is my favorite of this ilk - I think some of the arrangements and

> concepts are pretty clever. http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/butties

Not bad at all -- but am I missing something with that name "The
Butties"? When I saw the URL, I expected a prank on your part, to tell
the truth... or at the very least a link to a Butthole Surfers holiday
tribute band*!

- Dr Stinkter
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
*Actually, it's not hard to assemble a good Butthole Surfers holiday
EP:

"101X Holiday Greeting" - Gibby & Robbie Jacks [R.I.P.]
"Good King Wencelus" (sic) - BHS
"Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer" - Daniel Johnston w/BHS
"An Hawaiian Christmas Song" - The JackOfficers (Gibby & Pinkus)

[ermitano]

On 3 dic, 10:30, Frank from Deeeetroit <dadurwe...@voyager.net> wrote:
> Sorry Paul, I almost would listen to Yoko sing a bar or two, than your
> Christmas song.  Sounds like a hung-over father on Christmas morning
> playing with his first sythesizer.
>
> Frank

I don't hate the melody, i think it's ok
the poor arrangement i think is the problem.. and that bridge with a
choir.. eer..

by the way, many of you say that this song is some kind of popular and
gets a lot of play at christmas time.. here in Chile this song is
really unknown, i have never heard it on the radio, unlike Happy Xmas
by john, which we can hear it even on tv commercials

[topazgalaxy]

My impression is that it was organized religion that 'spoiled it' for
John. I do think for much of his life he did have a belief in God
perhaps in a more general sense.
His song God is what throws me off a bit from what I just said. If we
view that song as a single snapshot in time rather than a life time of
belief, then yes, I do believe John believed in God but perhaps he
did not have a specific name for God, or set doctrine by which to
worship.

Paul was interviewed in Readers' Digest a few years back (that
journal of definitive research-- joke there).
IIRC he did express a belief in 'something' and again voiced that
organized religion was not for him. Here is an interview from Reader's
Digest; I do not recall if this is the only interview for that
magazine. Around page 5 or 6 he has a very brief reference to his
spirituality--it is not much in this piece.


http://www.rd.com/images/content/101101/Paul_McCartney_interview.pdf

[Billy]

But only two of the Republican candidates agreed to appear at his
debate! It's gotta be a blow to Trump's ego.

[who?]

It won't matter. It's part of the "Schooner's Association"
and larger experiment. It's a subsidy of Recreation music Dylan
where they talk about their favorite people and least favorite.
They also took a poll over there about two weeks ago that ended
up over here about who were the most popular posters of all
time. Frank is gonna be inducted into the BPOAT for reasons
I won't get into at this moment.

[Mack A. Damia]

My mistake, but did you know that Paul once said that he believed that
God has testified that homosexuality is wrong?

http://tinyurl.com/7a8jeac

If the source is accurate, then Paul believed in God.

This past September, Paul spoke about his recent gig in Israel, saying
he visited the place where Jesus was born.

Since I have never asked Paul about his beliefs, I can only go on what
I read. You can find websites that proclaim The Beatles as
"God-haters".

[Mack A. Damia]

I think Frank is poisoned rose in drag.

[Lisi Peteras]

You are very close to the truth.

Very close indeed.

[who?]

I don't recall much about poisoned rose, but Schoonver
is part of a scientific experiment about bullies and the
best methods of dealing with them. He's part of a TV
documentary and that part about "social bonding"
is part of the experiment my sources say. I was never
informed that he is gay. I do know that he is part of
a book deal.

[who?]

On Dec 10, 2:04 pm, Lisi Peteras <nos...@nichtspam.com> wrote:
> On 12/10/2011 2:30 PM, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 10:20:48 -0800 (PST), "who?"

> > <yourimageunre...@sbcglobal.net>  wrote:

Not even close to the truth but the speculation will
continue as "The Schoonver Association" evolves
and continues to unravel over time.

[Mack A. Damia]

I have this bridge to sell in New York City. Honestly!

It connects the boroughs of Manhattan and Brooklyn. Nice looking
bridge. I'll let you have it for next to nothing!

Somebody is putting you on, my friend.

[Mack A. Damia]

Let me respectfully suggest that you ignore him - or just reply to his
serious Beatles-related conversation?

It will save you a lot of anguish.

[who?]

On Dec 10, 2:35 pm, Mack A. Damia <mybaconbu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 12:22:47 -0800 (PST), "who?"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

I respectfully say the same thing to you regarding Jews, Fatt and
Darrin. It's not even on topic material and I don't read it except
for the parts where you mention each other. If it were me, I
would let it go. You all should.

[who?]

On Dec 10, 2:31 pm, Mack A. Damia <mybaconbu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 12:14:27 -0800 (PST), "who?"
>
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The Schoonover saga continues.

[Mack A. Damia]

Actually, I only reply to somebody's reply who has forgotten to snip.
I have them both killfiled in here, and I'd rather not read their
nonsense. I never directly see a message that either of them has
posted.

They are two peas in the same pod, and the pod is old and rotten.

There must be some who want to fan the flames by replying without
snipping offensive conversation. Sure, I can engage in it myself, but
that's why I have them both killfiled. They are examples of the human
condition at its worst.

[JPGRFan]

Mack A. Damia <mybaco...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> My mistake, but did you know that Paul once said that he believed that
> God has testified that homosexuality is wrong?
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> If the source is accurate, then Paul believed in God.
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No - If the source is accurate Paul is a nut case.
It has nothing to do with if Paul believe(s) in God.

I wouldn't believe in the source, even if I COULD still see it.