Can anyone please slow "All My Lovin' down half speed, so I can figure out how to play it?

[Sir Indipity]

I understand how it goes, but don't understand how to play it. Need
to see a video. Thanks in advance.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb_ueQ6wj6w&feature=related

[Sir Indipity]

On the strum: Slow motion: Down up down up down up down
correct?

[Sir Indipity]

I'm missing some beats.

[RichL]

"Sir Indipity" <sirind...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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That's the way John played it. I can't do it that way. I do better with
down down up down down up. Either way, this song is really hard for me.
The way I do it fits in with the beats better but it's unnatural in a way.

[Nil]

On 22 May 2012, Sir Indipity <sirind...@gmail.com> wrote in
rec.music.beatles:

> I understand how it goes, but don't understand how to play it. Need
> to see a video. Thanks in advance.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb_ueQ6wj6w

I don't have time to do a video, but if you can understand chord
diagrams, here are the first few:

F#m: xx4222 (thumb seems to be muting the low strings, not playing.)
B: x24442
E: xx6454
C#m: xx6654
A: xx7655
F#m: xx4222
D: xx0232
B7: x21202

Shall I continue?

[Nil]

On 22 May 2012, "RichL" <rple...@yahoo.com> wrote in
rec.music.beatles:

> That's the way John played it. I can't do it that way. I do
> better with down down up down down up. Either way, this song is
> really hard for me. The way I do it fits in with the beats better
> but it's unnatural in a way.

It strictly down up down up down up for me.

[Eric Ramon]

On May 22, 5:37 pm, "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Sir Indipity" <sirindipit...@gmail.com> wrote in message

this is one of the songs I played when I was learning how to play the
guitar. The sheet music said it was in Eb so that's how I did it. I
was a kid then and Eb, Ab, all of those chords, are difficult for a
beginner....but the sheet music told me I had to learn them! Anyway,
I always went down up down up down up.

[brilton]

I always figured it John playing down up down up strokes as very fast
triplets.

I am guessing that's why George sings the harmony, because John may have
found it a bit too challenging to play that part and sing at the same time.

[abe slaney]

The rhythm guitar is playing in jig time, and the dud/udu strumming
pattern is nearly identical to how jigs are beat on the bodhran (irish
drum). Personally I find it pretty easy to play.
Jeff, think of the rhythm as 1-2-3, 2-2-3, 3-2-3, 4-2-3, etc. Tap
your foot on the first note of those triplets, so ONE(down)-2-3,
TWO(up)-2-3, THREE(down) 2-3, FOUR(up) 2-3. Think of "They're Coming
to Take Me Away"...

[Bernie Woodham]

On May 22, 10:05 pm, brilton <notl...@yacht.net> wrote:

I don't know, Watching John play it on the Ed Sullivan performances he
makes it look pretty effortless. But, I believe he bragged about his
rhythm playing on that song. So maybe he did know it took some effort.

[ermitano]

On 22 mayo, 21:01, Nil <redno...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:
> On 22 May 2012, "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote in

there's the video of a guy teaching how to play like lennon, and he
plays some bits of All My Loving. It was posted here a few times.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFRsUydn2w4#t=03m20s

[Sir Indipity]

On May 22, 7:37 pm, "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Sir Indipity" <sirindipit...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:a71166f3-6d55-49e4...@m10g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On May 22, 6:58 pm, Sir Indipity <sirindipit...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>  I understand how it goes, but don't understand how to play it. Need
> >> to see a video. Thanks in advance.
>
> >>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb_ueQ6wj6w&feature=related
>
> > On the strum: Slow motion: Down up down up down up down
> > correct?
>
> That's the way John played it.  I can't do it that way.  I do better with
> down down up down down up.

That's the way I've tried it and can't do it.

 Either way, this song is really hard for me.

It's interesting that I'm not the only one who struggles
with it.

> The way I do it fits in with the beats better but it's unnatural in a way.

Yep.

[Sir Indipity]

On May 22, 7:38 pm, Nil <redno...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:
> On 22 May 2012, Sir Indipity <sirindipit...@gmail.com> wrote in

I really don't need chord diagrams, but thanks anyway, Nil.

[Sir Indipity]

On May 22, 9:05 pm, brilton <notl...@yacht.net> wrote:
> On 23/05/12 7:58 AM, Sir Indipity wrote:
>
>
>
> >   I understand how it goes, but don't understand how to play it. Need
> > to see a video. Thanks in advance.
>
> >    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb_ueQ6wj6w&feature=related
>
> I always figured it John playing down up down up strokes as very fast
> triplets.

Same here. I figure if I practiced it that way, one day a hundred
years
from now I would be able to play it at John's speed. I need to
practice
it at half speed.

> I am guessing that's why George sings the harmony, because John may have
> found it a bit too challenging to play that part and sing at the same time.

That makes sense.

[Sir Indipity]

To my ears, he's not playing that right.

[Sir Indipity]

The only other song that is played like that is George's "Heading
for the light" It's the only other one I'm aware of.

[Sir Indipity]

Thanks, Abe. I'll try it.

[paramucho]

I was thinking that just the other day!

The other possible reason is that the harmony part that McCartney adds
on the recording is a third above the main vocal. Lennon usually sings
a third below.


Ian

[ermitano]

really? why?

[Home Guard Chris]

Me, too.

It's very easy to get in a mess, though. I can be playing it perfectly,
but if my mind wanders for even half a second, I suddenly find myself on
a "down" when it should be an "up", or vice versa. Concentration is
paramount for this song!

--
http://www.thehomeguard.info/music.html
^ My band - feedback always welcome ^

[Sir Indipity]

It doesn't sound right to my ears. If it is right, somebody
please let me know and I'll try that. Are you sure it's
right?

[Sir Indipity]

Here's an interesting question for you: How in
the world did you set that youtube video clip
into the three minute mark (or whatever it was)
so we could hear him play "All my lovin'?
It's a mystery to me.

[ermitano]

I think he plays it right, i haven't studied deeply the song, but it
sounds right to me.

about the youtube link, you just copy the normal link and then add
this: #t=03m20s
it takes you to the minute 3 and second 20
understand?

[Sir Indipity]

Yeah, I understand but I've never heard of this. Thanks.

[Edvado]

Home Guard Chris <cont...@theSPAMTRAPhomeguard.info> wrote:

> Nil wrote:
>> On 22 May 2012, "RichL"<rple...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> rec.music.beatles:
>>
>>> That's the way John played it. I can't do it that way. I do
>>> better with down down up down down up. Either way, this song is
>>> really hard for me. The way I do it fits in with the beats better
>>> but it's unnatural in a way.
>>
>> It strictly down up down up down up for me.
>>
>
> Me, too.
>
> It's very easy to get in a mess, though. I can be playing it perfectly,
> but if my mind wanders for even half a second, I suddenly find myself on
> a "down" when it should be an "up", or vice versa. Concentration is
> paramount for this song!

I remember hearing an interview with John where he said he had the same
problem. If you listen to "Give Peace A Chance" he screws up the rhythm
somewhere during the recording because at one point he strums with the
vocals and another he's off the vocals.
-Ed

[Sir Indipity]

On May 23, 11:36 am, Home Guard Chris
<contac...@theSPAMTRAPhomeguard.info> wrote:
> Nil wrote:
> > On 22 May 2012, "RichL"<rpleav...@yahoo.com>  wrote in

> > rec.music.beatles:
>
> >> That's the way John played it.  I can't do it that way.  I do
> >> better with down down up down down up.  Either way, this song is
> >> really hard for me. The way I do it fits in with the beats better
> >> but it's unnatural in a way.
>
> > It strictly down up down up down up for me.
>
> Me, too.
>
> It's very easy to get in a mess, though. I can be playing it perfectly,
> but if my mind wanders for even half a second, I suddenly find myself on
> a "down" when it should be an "up", or vice versa. Concentration is
> paramount for this song!
>

> --http://www.thehomeguard.info/music.html

>   ^ My band - feedback always welcome ^

Yeah, it's like having a sandwich in your car with a drink.
You concentrate too much on not spilling your drink
or your mind wanders off for even half a second and
you spill your drink all over your car. I did this a
couple of days ago. Huge mess to clean up.

[Sir Indipity]

On May 23, 4:09 pm, Edvado <Edvadoj...@ablespeed.com> wrote:

> Home Guard Chris <contac...@theSPAMTRAPhomeguard.info> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Nil wrote:

> >> On 22 May 2012, "RichL"<rpleav...@yahoo.com>  wrote in

> >> rec.music.beatles:
>
> >>> That's the way John played it.  I can't do it that way.  I do
> >>> better with down down up down down up.  Either way, this song is
> >>> really hard for me. The way I do it fits in with the beats better
> >>> but it's unnatural in a way.
>
> >> It strictly down up down up down up for me.
>
> > Me, too.
>
> > It's very easy to get in a mess, though. I can be playing it perfectly,
> > but if my mind wanders for even half a second, I suddenly find myself on
> > a "down" when it should be an "up", or vice versa. Concentration is
> > paramount for this song!
>
> I remember hearing an interview with John where he said he had the same
> problem.  If you listen to "Give Peace A Chance" he screws up the rhythm
> somewhere during the recording because at one point he strums with the
> vocals and another he's off the vocals.
>      -Ed

I don't understand how anybody could screw up
the rhythm to this song.

[brilton]

Yes Hammo, I hadn't thought of that - Lennon's vocal range. Good point.

[brilton]

I know the interview where he states that he went off the beat somewhere
in the song, so had to use tape echo to rectify it. I can hear it on the
record, where the single "boom" on the downbeat morphs into a sort of
"bu-boom" (like a sixteenth note delay). But I have never been able to
figure out what it was with Lennon's guitar playing that goes wrong, or
how this tape echo in remix fixes or hides it.

[RichL]

"abe slaney" <abes...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cb4765b3-9dac-4085...@m8g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...

This is what throws me off when I try playing the song with the d-u-d-u-d-u
pattern. If my foot comes down on beat one while playing a downstroke, it
wants to come down other times when I'm playing a downstroke. Using a
d-d-u-d-d-u pattern makes it easier for me to keep my foot in sync with my
playing, but then the playing is awkward as all hell.

Honestly, if I'm singing the song in addition to playing it, I'll simply
skip the "2" in your above count. Down - (skip) - up - down - (skip) - up.
Like a shuffle rhythm.

[Home Guard Chris]

I'm not sure about the open B7 chords instead of barred Bs - is that
what's troubling you? Or the fact he goes up the neck for the E and A (I
prefer to play an open A)? Or something else?

--

[Nil]

On 24 May 2012, Home Guard Chris
<cont...@theSPAMTRAPhomeguard.info> wrote in rec.music.beatles:

> I'm not sure about the open B7 chords instead of barred Bs - is
> that what's troubling you? Or the fact he goes up the neck for the
> E and A (I prefer to play an open A)? Or something else?

I think the guy in the first clip plays it more accurately, that is,
more like John did. Either way would sound good enough in a real
performance situation.

[Nil]

On 24 May 2012, "RichL" <rple...@yahoo.com> wrote in
rec.music.beatles:

> This is what throws me off when I try playing the song with the
> d-u-d-u-d-u pattern. If my foot comes down on beat one while
> playing a downstroke, it wants to come down other times when I'm
> playing a downstroke.

So... tap your foot half as fast, 1 and 3.

> Using a d-d-u-d-d-u pattern makes it easier
> for me to keep my foot in sync with my playing, but then the
> playing is awkward as all hell.

That would be much too hard for me. There's not enough time to get into
position for the second downstroke. The whole relaxed jangadajangada
thing depends on constant up and downs. Otherwise I think it would
sound stiff and uneven.

> Honestly, if I'm singing the song in addition to playing it, I'll
> simply skip the "2" in your above count. Down - (skip) - up -
> down - (skip) - up. Like a shuffle rhythm.

Cheater! You're not the only one, though - I saw another amateur clip
on youtube where they did that, too. I think it's a reasonable musical
solution to the problem. I still prefer the jangadajangada.

[RichL]

"Nil" <redn...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote in message
news:XnsA05D84C6...@wheedledeedle.moc...

Me too. I guess that means I'll have to practice more!

[ermitano]

On 24 mayo, 12:51, Nil <redno...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:
> On 24 May 2012, Home Guard Chris

> <contac...@theSPAMTRAPhomeguard.info> wrote in rec.music.beatles:

i had't seen the first posted video.
he's a little slower to change the chords, when he does he loses some
notes, something like: 123 123 123 1

[abe slaney]

I don't know if this makes it easier for anybody, but this is a pretty
good explanation of jig time.
Starting around 1:04, just pretend he is strumming six strings instead
of hitting a drum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAY2URyOg4I

[P-Dub]

Suggestion: Learn the riff to, and play 'ACROSS THE UNIVERSE'. It gets
GREAT response...

And it's easier....

PW