Who came-up with the Beatle bow?
firefly
---firefly
BLACKPOOLJIMMY
fatt...@yahoo.com
It was Brian'sidea.
O'Leary III
> ?
Way back, John put it on a birthday present for Paul. After that, it
became sort of a Beatle tradition! And we're glad it did.
firefly
I saw Jack LaLane at the Pomona Fair back in the early sixties. My mother
used to watch his TV show and exercise with him, and always had a Glamour
Stretcher hanging on a door knob.
---firefly
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firefly
with a classy performance.
Isn't it interesting that they could all immediately fall-in to the bow at
precisely the same time, regardless of what they were doing with their
instruments or whatever. It was like they really were connected with ESP.
---firefly
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firefly
with a classy performance.
Isn't it interesting that they could all immediately fall-in to the bow at
precisely the same time, regardless of what they were doing with their
instruments or whatever. It was like they really were connected with ESP.
---firefly
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firefly
down for it.
The amount of performances they made got them to be called together
precisely for the bow by a countdown inside their own heads by something
apparent to no one else. You never saw one missing out in the unison, and
it wasn't because they were watching each other.
That alone speaks for the innumerable times they appeared together.
---firefly
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> "firefly" <firef...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> The classiest act in history
>
> Oh please.
Bip Bop
Ha!
You sound like my old Aunt Thelma!
Yeah, the classiest!
Listen to "Till There Was You" at the command performance by The Queen
and think again... even if it actually is the first time!
Bip Bop
> Bip Bop <bip_...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > > > The classiest act in history
>
> > > Oh please.
>
> > Ha!
>
> > You sound like my old Aunt Thelma!
>
> > Yeah, the classiest!
>
> > Listen to "Till There Was You" at the command performance by The Queen
> > and think again... even if it actually is the first time!
>
> anyway.
>
> Ending every sentence with an exclamation point does not make your
> argument any more powerful.
Sorry.
I guess I'm just an enthusiastic (and positive) kind of guy.
Bip Bop
> "classiness"...you'll have to pick one.
The Beatles were both those things and more! (Excuse the exclamation
point.)
You pick one and I'll pick all of the superlatives when discussing The
Beatles, sir.
RichL
> You can't exalt the Beatles' cheeky irreverence AND their untouchable
> "classiness"...you'll have to pick one.
Classiness doesn't preclude humor.
D'you eat yet?
> Who came up with the Beatle bow?
Jimmy Page?
D'you eat yet?
> Did you really want to debate this? Really?
Do you really want to debate *everything*? Really?
RichL
> "RichL" <rple...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> You can't exalt the Beatles' cheeky irreverence AND their
>>> untouchable "classiness"...you'll have to pick one.
>>
>> Classiness doesn't preclude humor.
>
> acting perverse in formal settings, performing with a toilet seat hung
> around your neck, nude pictures, being visibly stoned/drunk, etc.
I looked up the definition. The problem is that there are several, and
they conflict with each other. Anyway, some of them fit my perception
of the Beatles' early days. That's my story and I'm sticking with it.
Yeah! That's what I'm talkin' 'bout!
> Did you really want to debate this? Really?
I believe the debate was initiated when you questioned BipBop's
characterization. Anyway, I put my 2c in and I'm done ;-)
Bip Bop
> poisoned rose <pr...@definitive.com> wrote:
That is the only way to respond to Poisoned Rose.
Put your last comment in and then ignore any response by her / him /
it / whatever.
You then get the last word and her / he / it / whatever fails in her /
he / it / whatever's mission.
fatt...@yahoo.com
> On May 16, 8:16�pm, poisoned rose <pr...@definitive.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Bip Bop <bip_...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > > > > Listen to "Till There Was You" at the command performance by The Queen
> > > > > and think again... even if it actually is the first time!
>
> > > > A ridiculous fanboy hyperbole, and it's a basically unmeasurable trait
> > > > anyway.
>
> > > > Ending every sentence with an exclamation point does not make your
> > > > argument any more powerful.
>
> > > Sorry.
>
> > > I guess I'm just an enthusiastic (and positive) kind of guy.
>
> > You can't exalt the Beatles' cheeky irreverence AND their untouchable
> > "classiness"...you'll have to pick one.
>
> The Beatles were both those things and more! (Excuse the exclamation
> point.)
Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
fatt...@yahoo.com
Don't forget the exclamations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
fatt...@yahoo.com
> Bip Bop <bip_...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > > characterization. Anyway, I put my 2c in and I'm done ;-)
>
> > That is the only way to respond to Poisoned Rose.
>
> > Put your last comment in and then ignore any response by her / him /
> > it / whatever.
>
> > You then get the last word and her / he / it / whatever fails in her /
> > he / it / whatever's mission.
>
> during an issue like this.
>
> Characteristically, Bip Bop (and firefly, before him) gushes out a
> ridiculous, indefensible hyperbole, and then turns all huffy and snitty
> when anyone dares to dispute it. This pattern occurs over and over and
> over with Bip Bop, whether the subject is Jeff Lynne, Red Rose Speedway,
> his own YouTubings....
>
> And he knows he can't defend his claim, so all he can do is switch the
> above sort of broad, all-purpose dismissal.
>
> Feeble, feeble, feeble.
>
> What's next? The Beatles had the straightest teeth in music history?
> Maybe their toenails were the most neatly trimmed too. Come on people,
> get a grip.
What's next?
How 'bout they inspired the cutest kids:
Manfred Noland
the Beatles hated doing it. It was cheeseball...corny...shmaltzy. Real
old school.
I'm pretty sure that by 1965, with playing in stadiums , getting Los
beatles out alive was like a military exercise.
Running from helicopters and departing by armored cars...at least in
America, seems to have put an end to bows and long good byes.
O'Leary III
> What's next? How about they inspired the cutest kids:
That was done already.
Dave The Rave
> "classiness"...you'll have to pick one.
Irreverence masquerading as classiness? (better than curtsying)
Dave The Rave
Dave The Rave
wrote:
> On May 16, 2:23 am, "firefly" <firefly...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > Who came up with the Beatle bow?
>
> Jimmy Page?
What does Jimmy Page have to do with the front of ocean craft?
Dave the Rave
firefly
---firefly
"poisoned rose" <pr...@definitive.com> wrote in message
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> Bip Bop <bip...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> > I believe the debate was initiated when you questioned BipBop's
>> > characterization. Anyway, I put my 2c in and I'm done ;-)
>>
>> That is the only way to respond to Poisoned Rose.
>>
>> Put your last comment in and then ignore any response by her / him /
>> it / whatever.
>>
>> You then get the last word and her / he / it / whatever fails in her /
>> he / it / whatever's mission.
>
Bip Bop
> Characteristically, Bip Bop (and firefly, before him) gushes out a
> ridiculous, indefensible hyperbole, and then turns all huffy and snitty
> when anyone dares to dispute it. This pattern occurs over and over and
> over with Bip Bop, whether the subject is Jeff Lynne, Red Rose Speedway,
> his own YouTubings....
Your saying it does not make it so.
Bip Bop
> Right, but your posting history does. And I don't know why you pretend
> otherwise. Your behavior in that thread about the Red Rose Speedway
> songlet with the circle-of-fifths chords was especially ridiculous.
Just because you are an idiot and had (and still have) no idea
what I was talking about doesn't make me wrong. What do you really
know about music except what you hear. What instrument do you play?
Have you studied music theory? I have and therefore, I know you are
not qualified to judge. Do you even know what The Circle of Fifths
importance to great music is? Obviously not. Again, just because you
have an opinion of someone does not make you right in that opinion.
Few respect you here, and I suspect even fewer respect you in your
life, so buzz off, Mr. Know It All, Debater and Asshole of the World
Extraordinaire. Oh, yeah... and just because I don't respond to
whatever you may post in response here does not mean you have won, or
hurt me as you intend to do with everyone you respond to here. You
will never hurt me, or my feelings, or be considered a winner because
you are... well, you know what I and the rest of RMB, your "friends"
and acquaintances think of you.
You know I seriously hate the saying, "Get a life", but seriously
do need to get one and grow up.
"While you attack, create offence
I'll put it down to your ignorance."
+ George Harrison +
"This Guitar (Can't Keep From Crying)"
Bip Bop
> And...you just ABUNDANTLY proved my point about the ridiculous tantrums
> you throw when people disagree with you. I couldn't have asked for a
> more illustrative response. Good grief...do you have ANY perspective on
> yourself at all?
It's not a tantrum. It's just the teacher in me trying to consul
someone who is disrupting the class by having no class.
> Pitiful. Just pitiful.
You certainly are. Now grow up and be civil. You don't know
everything.
> And there's nothing like being told to "get a life" by someone who
> spends his entire day switching between iMovie and YouTube.
I spent 30 years in the classroom teaching English and later Computer
Programming and how to use PowerPoint to creatively present all manner
of information to better one's grades in the educational system so
it's hard to stop what I do so well now that I am retired.
What do you do besides hide behind critical words that you cowardly
post conveniently set to self destruct after 6 days? What ARE you
afraid of?
fatt...@yahoo.com
Sometimes it's best to just ignore PR. He acts like this with almost
everyone.
fatt...@yahoo.com
> fattuc...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > And...you just ABUNDANTLY proved my point about the ridiculous tantrums
> > > > you throw when people disagree with you. I couldn't have asked for a
> > > > more illustrative response. Good grief...do you have ANY perspective on
> > > > yourself at all?
>
> > > someone who is disrupting the class by having no class.
>
> > > > Pitiful. Just pitiful.
>
> > > everything.
>
> > > > And there's nothing like being told to "get a life" by someone who
> > > > spends his entire day switching between iMovie and YouTube.
>
> > > I spent 30 years in the classroom teaching English and later Computer
> > > Programming and how to use PowerPoint to creatively present all manner
> > > of information to better one's grades in the educational system so
> > > it's hard to stop what I do so well now that I am retired.
>
> > > What do you do besides hide behind critical words that you cowardly
> > > afraid of?
>
> > Sometimes it's best to just ignore PR. He acts like this with almost
> > everyone.
>
> perfectly obvious to any reader who is the one who became unhinged here.
PR, if you are convinced that it is obvious that someone else became
unhinged, why discuss it further?
Let's try to make the post about the post . . . not the poster, OK?
The Walrus was Danny
> Remind me why you're not scolding Bip Bop for calling me an asshole,
> etc.? Or scolding firefly for simply responding to my on-topic points by
> calling me filth? Oh, that's right...because you make posts about the
> posters rather than the post.
Put yer penis away Guru. It's an interesting question that has been
posed.
One wonders if the first beatle bow is recorded in "The Beatles Live!"
by Captain Lewie. I don't have it with me, somebody out there must
have the bugger. If he doesn't mention it it's a glaring omission
(IMO).
Danny
O'Leary III
> I spent 30 years in the classroom teaching English and later Computer
> Programming and how to use PowerPoint to creatively present all manner
> of information to better one's grades in the educational system so
> it's hard to stop what I do so well now that I am retired.
If you've gotten through to as many students as it seems you have,
you've done good in your life's work.
Now go make some movies!
Bip Bop
You're too cool, O'Leary!
Your will be done!
Thanks.
Sean Carroll
> poisoned rose <pr...@definitive.com> wrote:
>> A ridiculous fanboy hyperbole, and it's a basically unmeasurable trait
>> anyway.
>>
>> Ending every sentence with an exclamation point does not make your
>> argument any more powerful.
> Sorry.
>
> I guess I'm just an enthusiastic (and positive) kind of guy.
Serious character flaw. You'd better work on that!
--
--Sean
http://spclsd223.livejournal.com
House: Find my cane and motorcycle. Figure out where I went last night.
Kutner: [taking out a notepad] Where's your cane and motorcycle?
House: You're gonna trust me? I lie about everything.
Bip Bop
> "Bip Bop" <bip_...@sbcglobal.net> wrote
>
> > poisoned rose <pr...@definitive.com> wrote:
> >> A ridiculous fanboy hyperbole, and it's a basically unmeasurable trait
> >> anyway.
>
> >> Ending every sentence with an exclamation point does not make your
> >> argument any more powerful.
> > Sorry.
>
> > I guess I'm just an enthusiastic (and positive) kind of guy.
>
> Serious character flaw. You'd better work on that!
You're right, Sean, and I will... promise!
A little side note to you here knowing that "House" is one of your
favorite shows (isn't it?).
Wasn't last weeks show ABSOLUTELY CLASSIC and FANTASTIC!
Always a great show, but this one was unbelievably great!
I can hardly wait for tomorrow's conclusion of this two-parter!
Sean Carroll
> A little side note to you here knowing that "House" is one of your
> favorite shows (isn't it?).
Nope. Never heard of it. My sig lines are all added to my posts by the
government without my knowledge or consent.
> Wasn't last weeks show ABSOLUTELY CLASSIC and FANTASTIC!
>
> Always a great show, but this one was unbelievably great!
>
> I can hardly wait for tomorrow's conclusion of this two-parter!
Yep. Over in the House group, even people who think that the show's declined
somewhat lately are raving about how fantastic it was. It was just spot on
right from the very first scene -- unpredictable and complicated and one of
the most dramatically powerful episodes ever. It was uncharacteristically
light on the 'great witty lines' side of things, but the story was so
engrossing that I didn't feel like that was any kind of serious lack or
flaw. It was more than made up for by everything else.
Manfred Noland
Martin Hofner
> Moe Howard of the Three Stooges.
==========================
As I recall the real answer being the German existentialis in Hamburg,
with Astrid acting as their personal channeler - first Stu, then the
rest.
fatt...@yahoo.com
> Moe Howard of the Three Stooges.
That was very, very funny. LOL.
O'Leary III
>> Moe Howard of the Three Stooges.
>
> That was very, very funny. LOL.
And almost fifty years old.
Manfred Noland
Re: Who came-up with the Beatle haircut ?
Group: rec.music.beatles Date: Thu, May 22, 2008, 5:52am (EDT-3) From:
yearo...@yahoo.com (Martin Hofner)
And they stole it from Moe Howard of The Three Stooges who was wearing
that hair cut-style back in the 1920's.
Manfred Noland
fatt...@yahoo.com wrote:
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And Moe was wearing that style in the 20s, long before The Beatles had
it.
Hey, there's photographic evidence of this.
Manfred Noland
On May 22, 7:35�am,
RockNRo...@webtv.net (Manfred Noland) wrote:
Moe Howard of the Three Stooges.
That was very, very funny. LOL.
**********************************************
Why thank you kindly. ( takes a bow but not a Beatle bow, just a good
old fashioned stage bow )
I'm glad you found humor in it. But.....
it's true.
appe...@yahoo.com
> fattuc...@yahoo.com
> On May 22, 7:35�am,
>
> RockNRo...@webtv.net (Manfred Noland) wrote:
>
> Moe Howard of the Three Stooges.
>
> That was very, very funny. LOL.
> **********************************************
> Why thank you kindly. ( takes a bow but not a Beatle bow, just a good
> old fashioned stage bow )
> I'm glad you found humor in it. But.....
> it's true.
====================================================
No Manfred....
The exis say they took it from Roman Empire era statues. I think
that predated even old Moe
Bernie Woodham
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1933:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1e/Horowitzmosesphoto.jpg
appe...@yahoo.com
wrote:
> "Manfred Noland" <RockNRo...@webtv.net> wrote in message
>
> Moe Howard of the Three Stooges.
>
> That was very, very funny. LOL.
>
> And almost fifty years old.
> ***********************************************
> And Moe was wearing that style in the 20s, long before The Beatles had
> it.
> Hey, there's photographic evidence of this.
> ****************************************
>
> 1933:
>
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1e/Horowitzmosesphoto.jpg
====================================================
Scroll down this page and you guys will see a couple of examples of
the haircuts the exis copied and gave to the Beatles.
Google Caesar images and you see the same
www.white-history.com/hwr15.htm
BEFORE MOE
fatt...@yahoo.com
> On May 23, 6:50 am, RockNRo...@webtv.net (Manfred Noland) wrote:
>
> > fattuc...@yahoo.com
>
> > RockNRo...@webtv.net (Manfred Noland) wrote:
>
> > Moe Howard of the Three Stooges.
>
> > That was very, very funny. LOL.
> > **********************************************
> > Why thank you kindly. ( takes a bow but not a Beatle bow, just a good
> > old fashioned stage bow )
> > I'm glad you found humor in it. But.....
> > it's true.
>
> ====================================================
> No Manfred....
>
> The exis say they took it from Roman Empire era statues. I think
> that predated even old Moe
There is some debate in the Beatle literature about their
haircuts . . . . some books say the Beatles ended up with their famous
hair style after a trip to Paris.
fatt...@yahoo.com
>
> > RockNRo...@webtv.net (Manfred Noland) wrote:
>
> > Moe Howard of the Three Stooges.
>
> > That was very, very funny. LOL.
> > **********************************************
> > Why thank you kindly. ( takes a bow but not a Beatle bow, just a good
> > old fashioned stage bow )
> > I'm glad you found humor in it. But.....
> > it's true.
>
> ====================================================
> No Manfred....
>
> The exis say they took it from Roman Empire era statues. I think
> that predated even old Moe
If anyone is interested, here is a link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beatle_haircut#The_mop-top_haircut
Bernie Woodham
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www.white-history.com/hwr15.htm
BEFORE MOE
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Yeah, that's interesting. But what kind of site is this, some kind of Nazi
site? Nefertiti was not white, she was black.
appe...@yahoo.com
wrote:
> <appeyr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
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Geez. I just quickly googled images, looked at the pictures and
copied it.
The point was the photos of guys with hair
Bernie Woodham
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Not a good enough answer. Time for the waterboarding!
O'Leary III
> If anyone is interested, here is a link:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beatle_haircut#The_mop-top_haircut
Oy. Wiki.
Manfred Noland
Re: Who came-up with the Beatle haircut ?
appe...@yahoo.com
On May 22, 7:35�am,
Moe Howard of the Three Stooges.
That was very, very funny. LOL.
**********************************************
Why thank you kindly. ( takes a bow but not a Beatle bow, just a good
old fashioned stage bow )
==============================================
The exis say they took it from Roman Empire era statues. I think
that predated even old Moe
And you're going to believe those freaks ? there's no photographic
evidence of peole wearing the Moe Howard hair style in Roman times.
There may have been. And aliens may have built the pyramids. We can't be
certain. We can be cetain Moe Howard had that hair style before the
Beatles, Astrid, or limp wristed Stu and his hint o' mint crew.
Manfred Noland
Re: Who came-up with the Beatle haircut ?
appe...@yahoo.com
wrote:
"Manfred Noland" <RockNRo...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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mom...@mogjod1.com (O'Leary III)
fattuc...@yahoo.com wrote:
Moe Howard of the Three Stooges.
That was very, very funny. LOL.
And almost fifty years old.
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it.
Hey, there's photographic evidence of this.
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1933:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1e/Horowitzmosesphoto.jpg
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haircuts the exis copied and gave to the Beatles.
Google Caesar images and you see the same
www.white-history.com/hwr15.htm
BEFORE MOE
Drawings, paintings, etchings and sketches are weak. There are
photographs of Moe Howard. Ancient people painted or drew gods with
lions' heads on human bodies and gnomes and elves. Hardly a reason to
conclude that they existed.
Manfred Noland
On May 23, 6:50 am, RockNRo...@webtv.net (Manfred Noland) wrote:
fattuc...@yahoo.com
On May 22, 7:35?am,
RockNRo...@webtv.net (Manfred Noland) wrote:
Moe Howard of the Three Stooges.
That was very, very funny. LOL.
**********************************************
Why thank you kindly. ( takes a bow but not a Beatle bow, just a good
old fashioned stage bow )
I'm glad you found humor in it. But..... it's true.
==============================================
The exis say they took it from Roman Empire era statues. I think
that predated even old Moe
If anyone is interested, here is a link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beatle_haircut#The_mop-top_haircut
***********************************************
Next you'll be insisting Buster Brown influenced Moe Howard.
Keep in mind, Brian Epstein liked his "boys" ,the Beatles, to look like
elfin boys..... thus the stupid hair cuts.
Manfred Noland
trade-mark hair cut. He made it very clear that he didn't care for them.
Do you think John Lennon ever felt awful that he was responsible for
Brian Epstein's covered up suicide on August 27th, 1967 ?
Brian didn't blame John in his suicide note ( since destroyed ). Earlier
that night John saw Brian in the studio while recording " Baby
You're A Rich Man ".
During the fade out, John looked at Brian an sang " Baby you're a rich
fag jew ".
Brian was aghast and fled the studio in tears. John had done and said
cruel tings to and about Brian for years ignoring that the guy had on
previous occasions attempted suicide and left suicide notes.
This time was the time Brian succeeded.
Do you think John felt responsible and lived with the enormous guilt ?
Jeff
> Moe Howard was asked if he was aware that the Beatles stole his
> trade-mark hair cut. He made it very clear that he didn't care for them.
> Do you think John Lennon ever felt awful that he was responsible for
> Brian Epstein's covered up suicide on August 27th, 1967 ?
What??? Where did you get this info..about Lennon? He wasn't
responsible. Source please. Thanks.
Manfred Noland
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Hmmm, I thought it was fairly common knowledge amongst Beatle fans.
I can't specifically say.....
It may have been in " Shout" or Lewison's book or Pete Shotton's book.
Keep in mind, there is no conclusive evidence that John's singing " Baby
you're a rich fag jew " is what actually caused Brian to commit suicide.
In fact, all evidence of the suicide was hidden to make it appear he had
overdosed.
The speculation is that by 1967 Brian was major DEPRESSED. His boys, the
Beatles, didn't need Brian anymore. They weren't touring and had been
finding out how Brian had cost them millions with bad business deals.
John was especially caustic. When Brian had asked years earlier what a
good title for his book should be, John replied, " How about ' Queer
Jew' ? " which made Brian burst into tears and John loved it.
John also referred to Brian's book, " Cellar Full Of Noise " as "
Cellar Full Of Boys" . ( that IS funny ).
By 1967 Brian had overdosed several times and written several suicide
notes.
He was a severely depressed homosexual English Jew. He tried to be one
of the boys with the Beatles, combing his hair forward and wearing funky
psychedelic clothing which caused the Beatles to laugh hysterically at
him and behind his back. Not a good environment for a depressed gay
manager; he felt useless and ashamed and mocked. I wondered if John's
nasty anti-gay, anti-jewish remark could've driven Brian over the edge ?
The coincidence of Brian's demise happening on the same evening could
not have been lost on John. I'm sure John was aware of Brian's previous
suicide attempts. John probably thought they were a pathetic girlish cry
for attention and never dreamt that Brian might actually succeed.
I wonder how or if this affected John in any way. Did he suffer
torturous guilt ?
Some fans still think if Brian hadn't died that Paul wouldn't have
become the un-named megalomaniacal leader and the band might've lasted
longer. I disagree with this last suggestion.