Only People Know Just How To Talk To Cisco
marcus
Is that John's vocal, or someone doing a cover version?
abe slaney
> Cisco Systems is using John's "Only People" in their TV Ads.
>
> Is that John's vocal, or someone doing a cover version?
Yeah, I saw that, too. I'm pretty positive that was the original
version.
It's not a song you are likely to ever hear, anywhere, so I was kind
of glad they used it.
Fattush
> Cisco Systems is using John's "Only People" in their TV Ads.
>
> Is that John's vocal, or someone doing a cover version?
I'd have to see the commercial to make a fully informed opinion.
However I generally do not like to see Beatles or ex Beatles songs
used in advertising. It seems desparately money hungry to me and
contrary to the Beatles' personalities.
I would guess John did not write the song with Cisco in mind. If he
were alive, he'd probably be to learn it was used to push a product.
Fattush
I left out a word at the end. I meant to say "he'd probably be unhappy
to learn . . . ."
marcus
That's my opinion on usage of Beatles' and Lennon music for
commercials as well.
Unfortunately, as I have found out over the almost ten years I've been
posting here, our view point on this is in the minority. Most people
don't seem to be bothered about it...usually falling on the old canard
that it's the artists' music and they can do with it whatever they
want (I guess even when the artist is dead).
However, even though I still feel strongly against such usage, I am
beginning to see the futility in voicing that opinion.
Look at the last line of Orwell's "1984".
Fattush
> On Oct 23, 1:34 am, Fattush <fattuc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > On Oct 23, 12:18 am, Fattush <fattuc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > On Oct 22, 8:36 pm, marcus <marcus...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > Cisco Systems is using John's "Only People" in their TV Ads.
>
> > > > Is that John's vocal, or someone doing a cover version?
>
> > > I'd have to see the commercial to make a fully informed opinion.
> > > However I generally do not like to see Beatles or ex Beatles songs
> > > used in advertising. It seems desparately money hungry to me and
> > > contrary to the Beatles' personalities.
>
> > > I would guess John did not write the song with Cisco in mind. If he
> > > were alive, he'd probably be to learn it was used to push a product.
>
> > I left out a word at the end. I meant to say "he'd probably be unhappy
> > to learn . . . ."
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> That's my opinion on usage of Beatles' and Lennon music for
> commercials as well.
>
> Unfortunately, as I have found out over the almost ten years I've been
> posting here, our view point on this is in the minority.
I've learned almost everything I say is in the minority. :-)
BTW, I really like the title of this thread. Cute.
Payton Byrd
> marcus condescended:
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>>> I left out a word at the end. I meant to say "he'd probably be unhappy
>>> to learn . . . ."
>>
>> That's my opinion on usage of Beatles' and Lennon music for
>> commercials as well.
>>
>> Unfortunately, as I have found out over the almost ten years I've been
>> posting here, our view point on this is in the minority. Most people
>> don't seem to be bothered about it...usually falling on the old canard
>> that it's the artists' music and they can do with it whatever they
>> want (I guess even when the artist is dead).
>
> Right, because anyone who disagrees with you is just flat wrong and
> could only be disgracefully "falling on an old canard."
>
> And, right, it's just a "canard" to say an artist should have more say
> over the use of his own music than the artist's *fans*.
>
> What an incredible, pompous jackass you continue to be.
>
>> Look at the last line of Orwell's "1984".
>
> Yes, we're all brainwashed sheep except for grand, glorious you.
Speaking of which, have you tried a rotary in a Cozy IV ?
--
They say your heroes reflect the quantity and fullness of your life. I
have three, hummingbird, Bear Botttoms
and Me.Here, the Triumvirate. Alas, now measured by said axiom, I
have no life <sigh>
abe slaney
> That's my opinion on usage of Beatles' and Lennon music for
> commercials as well.
>
> Unfortunately, as I have found out over the almost ten years I've been
> posting here, our view point on this is in the minority.
I don't know what you're basing that statement on. When this subject
has come up in the past, you've generally engaged the same small
handful of people (including me), who hold various opinions on the
subject, and who hardly constitute a majority of Beatle fans. There
*is* such a thing as grey area, and I believe a spectrum of views has
been presented. Once again you see it all in black and white.
>Most people don't seem to be bothered about it...usually falling on
the old canard that it's the artists' music and they can do with it
whatever they want (I guess even when the artist is dead).
I'm sure some of the resistance to your opinions on this subject have
at least as much with how those opinions are presented as they do with
the views themselves. It's possible, you know, for a person of
integrity to hold a different view on this subject than your own. When
you repeatedly characterize somebody else's honest opinion as a
"canard" ("An unfounded or false, deliberately misleading story"),
what do you expect in return?
> However, even though I still feel strongly against such usage, I am
> beginning to see the futility in voicing that opinion.
Don't get all martyry on us. It's your opinion - what did you expect,
that you'd declare it once and everybody would flock to your point of
view? If you feel so strongly, then continue to express your opinion,
and if you run into some contrary views, don't get up on a freaking
cross over it.
> Look at the last line of Orwell's "1984".
Yes, we all love Big Brother, because we don't care if Cisco Systems
uses a forgotten, second-rate song of John Lennon's in an ad that will
probably run for a couple of months...
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> On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:58:51 -0700, poisoned rose wrote:
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>> marcus condescended:
>>
>>>> I left out a word at the end. I meant to say "he'd probably be unhappy
>>>> to learn . . . ."
>>>
>>> That's my opinion on usage of Beatles' and Lennon music for
>>> commercials as well.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, as I have found out over the almost ten years I've been
>>> posting here, our view point on this is in the minority. Most people
>>> don't seem to be bothered about it...usually falling on the old canard
>>> that it's the artists' music and they can do with it whatever they
>>> want (I guess even when the artist is dead).
>>
>> Right, because anyone who disagrees with you is just flat wrong and
>> could only be disgracefully "falling on an old canard."
>>
>> And, right, it's just a "canard" to say an artist should have more say
>> over the use of his own music than the artist's *fans*.
>>
>> What an incredible, pompous jackass you continue to be.
>>
>>> Look at the last line of Orwell's "1984".
>>
>> Yes, we're all brainwashed sheep except for grand, glorious you.
>
> Speaking of which, have you tried a rotary in a Cozy IV ?
Nay, I say, nay!
--
Last night while sitting in my chair
I pinged a host that wasn't there
It wasn't there again today
The host resolved to NSA.
marcus
I was referring to me.
abe slaney
You love Big Brother?
Fattush
wrote:
> marcus condescended:
>
> > > I left out a word at the end. I meant to say "he'd probably be unhappy
> > > to learn . . . ."
>
> > That's my opinion on usage of Beatles' and Lennon music for
> > commercials as well.
>
> > Unfortunately, as I have found out over the almost ten years I've been
> > posting here, our view point on this is in the minority. Most people
> > don't seem to be bothered about it...usually falling on the old canard
> > that it's the artists' music and they can do with it whatever they
> > want (I guess even when the artist is dead).
>
> could only be disgracefully "falling on an old canard."
>
> And, right, it's just a "canard" to say an artist should have more say
> over the use of his own music than the artist's *fans*.
>
> What an incredible, pompous jackass you continue to be.
>
>
Oh no. Dr. Zachary Smith has returned!
The Arranger
When Eric Dolphy's "Hat and Beard" was used in a car commercial a few
years back, my reaction was basically the same: maybe someone will
like it and look into his music.
The Arranger
Fattush
> Cisco Systems is using John's "Only People" in their TV Ads.
>
> Is that John's vocal, or someone doing a cover version?
Isn't there a line in the song which goes "We don't want no pig/
brother scene"?
I wonder how they fit that into the Cisco commercial. :-o
marcus
Abe,
Please believe me, I am not being "condescending" here, but sometimes
I wonder if I have to explain things like I'm talking to a three year
old.
What I am saying is this, I still feel strongly about the usage (or
mis-usage) of Beatles/and solo Beatles songs in commercial
advertising. That feeling will never change.
However, based on the general reaction I get when I state that in this
forum (and contrary to your assertion, most people who respond are
critical of my thoughts on this), I have come to the decision that
arguing against such usage is futile.
So, in the end, I have learned to love Big Brother...it makes no sense
for me to keep beating my head against the wall on this subject.
My initial post was just wondering if it is John singing, or someone
trying to sound like him.
Me
>
> Oh no. Dr. Zachary Smith has returned!- Hide quoted text -
>
Was there something weird about Dr. Smith always hanging around with
that young boy or what?
Fattush
That's very funny. I never thought of it like that . . . . it does
seem Will was his closest "friend."
I read at Wiki that in real life, the actors (Jonathan Harris and
Billy Moomy) were good friends for years.
Me
> On Oct 24, 8:42 am, Me <BabaOhRea...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > On Oct 24, 1:07 am, Fattush <fattuc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > Oh no. Dr. Zachary Smith has returned!- Hide quoted text -
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> > Was there something weird about Dr. Smith always hanging around with
> > that young boy or what?
>
> That's very funny. I never thought of it like that . . . . it does
> seem Will was his closest "friend."
>
Fattush
Well, that show ran in the 1960's so there were limits to what they
could show on TV back then.
But I heard through the grapevine that he had a vibrator. :-)
He is mechanical after all.
Me
MMMMM, I love when you talk like that. You're getting me all damp,
like my basement.
marcus
You mean like how they fit in all of the antiwar lyrics of "Fortunate
Son" and the line "I needed someone to bleed" from "You're Just What I
Needed" in their respective commercials?
Fattush
I guess so. :-)
abe slaney
> Please believe me, I am not being "condescending" here, but sometimes
> I wonder if I have to explain things like I'm talking to a three year
> old.
Gee, how could I possibly construe that as condescending...
> What I am saying is this, I still feel strongly about the usage (or
> mis-usage) of Beatles/and solo Beatles songs in commercial
> advertising. That feeling will never change.
>
> However, based on the general reaction I get when I state that in this
> forum (and contrary to your assertion, most people who respond are
> critical of my thoughts on this), I have come to the decision that
> arguing against such usage is futile.
I think if you looked back you'd see that the response has actually
been mixed. It's just that your style (see "talking to a three-year
old") tends to inflame those with whom you disagree, so their
responses outnumber those who fall somewhere in the middle of this
issue.
> So, in the end, I have learned to love Big Brother...it makes no sense
> for me to keep beating my head against the wall on this subject.
Once again, viewpoints other than yours become negative caricatures:
"Big Brother"; "walls".
> My initial post was just wondering if it is John singing, or someone
> trying to sound like him.
And I responded to that question before you started on about
"canards", and the "futility" of expressing your opinions on the
subject, and "1984"...
marcus
>
> And I responded to that question before you started on about
> "canards", and the "futility" of expressing your opinions on the
> subject, and "1984"...
So, in other words when you say you're "pretty positive" that means
you are 100% sure?
abe slaney
Well no, that's the "pretty" part. That means that I saw the ad once
and I was caught off guard because I wasn't paying attention at first
and it took a few seconds to recognize the song but it sure sounded
like the original to me.