> > Excuse the interruption in the name game, but I thought I'd inject a little > > controversy here this morning with a brief perusal of the news from Texas > > that great state of justice, equality, and home of compassion <g> <<<
> ROTFLMAO!
> Well, I don't know how leading the country in executions is going to put > W over the top. Maybe he can use the movie Urban Cowboy as his > platform? You know, riding the mechanical bull <vbg> although he's not > as cute as Debra Winger.
> As Balloon pointed out, history has proven that the popular vote can be > nothing but bunk, so here's to hoping that holds to be true come > November.
Excuse the interruption in the name game, but I thought I'd inject a little controversy here this morning with a brief perusal of the news from Texas, that great state of justice, equality, and home of compassion <g>:
Texas Argues that Sleeping Lawyer is Sufficient Representation
The State of Texas is appealing a federal judge's ruling that death row inmate Calvin Burdine should receive a new trial. The State acknowledges that Burdine's attorney, Joseph Cannon, slept during the death penalty trial, but maintains that Burdine received sufficient representation. Last year, a federal judge threw out Burdine's conviction and ruled that he should be retried because "sleeping counsel is equivalent to no counsel at all." The case was argued before the U.S. Court of Appeals in New Orleans on June 5.
Texas Judge Reprimanded for Cleaning Guns During Death Penalty Trial
State District Judge H. Lon Harper was reprimanded because he "failed to act in a dignified manner" and "failed to maintain order and decorum in the courtroom" during the death penalty trial of Anthony Haynes in Houston last year. Judge Harper was cleaning his two Colt pistols during the trial. The defendant was sentenced to death. The judge commented that "almost all judges carry guns. I just should have just kept mine under the robe...." The judge was also reprimanded for allowing the court baliff to read magazines during court and for distributing business cards for his private mediation business. Judge Harper was defeated for re-election in 1998 after being the worst-ranked judge in the Houston Bar Association's poll. However, he still sits as a visiting judge. (United Press International, July 13, 2000)
Denise wrote: > Excuse the interruption in the name game, but I thought I'd inject a little > controversy here this morning with a brief perusal of the news from Texas > that great state of justice, equality, and home of compassion <g> <<<
ROTFLMAO!
Well, I don't know how leading the country in executions is going to put W over the top. Maybe he can use the movie Urban Cowboy as his platform? You know, riding the mechanical bull <vbg> although he's not as cute as Debra Winger.
As Balloon pointed out, history has proven that the popular vote can be nothing but bunk, so here's to hoping that holds to be true come November.
>Subject: Re: NBC- Only in Texas >From: "Sc°re-Pi°n" sc...@score-pion.NOSPAM.com >Date: 8/15/00 11:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time >> Texas Argues that Sleeping Lawyer is Sufficient Representation
>Is this what Bush Jr. thinks also?
>Sc°re-Pi°n
Scorp: As is true with supporters of most politicians, Bush supporters will tell you that although he is the governor of the state, he can only enforce the laws on the books in Texas.
Unless of course, they want to point up that education scores have improved under him, or crime stats, or whatever <g>. Then, he is solely, gleefully responsible.
;-) Denise **************************************************** In the lonely night In the blinking stardust of a pale blue light You're comin' thru to me in black and white When we were made of dreams.
> >Subject: Re: NBC- Only in Texas > >From: "Sc°re-Pi°n" sc...@score-pion.NOSPAM.com > >Date: 8/15/00 11:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time
> >> Texas Argues that Sleeping Lawyer is Sufficient Representation
> >Is this what Bush Jr. thinks also?
> >Sc°re-Pi°n
> Scorp: > As is true with supporters of most politicians, Bush supporters will tell you > that although he is the governor of the state, he can only enforce the laws on > the books in Texas.
> Unless of course, they want to point up that education scores have improved > under him, or crime stats, or whatever <g>. Then, he is solely, gleefully > responsible.
> ;-) > Denise > **************************************************** > In the lonely night > In the blinking stardust of a pale blue light > You're comin' thru to me in black and white > When we were made of dreams.
> > > Excuse the interruption in the name game, but I thought I'd inject a > little > > > controversy here this morning with a brief perusal of the news from > Texas > > > that great state of justice, equality, and home of compassion <g> <<<
> > ROTFLMAO!
> > Well, I don't know how leading the country in executions is going to put > > W over the top. Maybe he can use the movie Urban Cowboy as his > > platform? You know, riding the mechanical bull <vbg> although he's not > > as cute as Debra Winger.
> > As Balloon pointed out, history has proven that the popular vote can be > > nothing but bunk, so here's to hoping that holds to be true come > > November.
On 15 Aug 2000 16:49:49 GMT, luvtheb...@aol.com (Denise) wrote:
>Unless of course, they want to point up that education scores have improved >under him, or crime stats, or whatever <g>. Then, he is solely, gleefully >responsible.
Sounds like Clinton's speech last night. I thought he was going to take credit for the sun coming up every morning since he's been in office. Isn't this supposed to be Gore's convention?
Decadence Sparklemaster (Formerly known as Lindsay)
He HAS been the leader of the party and the President of the United States for the past eight years. Surely, if there is anywhere he should be warmly received, and where he can make a final hurrah speech and say anything he pleases, where else but at the last Democratic Convention he will ever attend as the sitting President? Shouldn't the President of the United States be able to preach to his own choir?
You will also note that he spoke on the first night. That leaves three days and nights of Gore-mania. How else would you work it?
One of my favorite lines was his quoting Harry Truman -- If you want to live like a Republican, vote Democratic!
Feel free to discuss.....
janet, a Democrat with apparently no sense of humor, at least not tonight
Broken Hero <ldblue@mindspring**NOSPAM**.com> wrote in message
> On 15 Aug 2000 16:49:49 GMT, luvtheb...@aol.com (Denise) wrote:
> >Unless of course, they want to point up that education scores have improved > >under him, or crime stats, or whatever <g>. Then, he is solely, gleefully > >responsible.
> Sounds like Clinton's speech last night. I thought he was going to > take credit for the sun coming up every morning since he's been in > office. Isn't this supposed to be Gore's convention?
> Decadence Sparklemaster > (Formerly known as Lindsay)
> "Craig Statham" <cja...@stathamc.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message > news:8ncd30$2hd$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk... > > Don't believe in God, but should perhaps thank someone for the fact that I > > live in a country where revenge isn't misconstrued as justice!!
> > > > Excuse the interruption in the name game, but I thought I'd inject a > > little > > > > controversy here this morning with a brief perusal of the news from > > Texas > > > > that great state of justice, equality, and home of compassion <g> <<<
> > > ROTFLMAO!
> > > Well, I don't know how leading the country in executions is going to put > > > W over the top. Maybe he can use the movie Urban Cowboy as his > > > platform? You know, riding the mechanical bull <vbg> although he's not > > > as cute as Debra Winger.
> > > As Balloon pointed out, history has proven that the popular vote can be > > > nothing but bunk, so here's to hoping that holds to be true come > > > November.
Here's some numbers (per capita rankings) to consider as "Duh-bya" goes around braggin' how its done in TX:
50 per capita State spending overall 50 teacher's salaries (counting benefits) 49 spending for environment 49 for the arts 48 parks & recreation 47 delivery of social services 46 police protection 45 public libraries 42 child support collections 40 for natural resources 32 higher education 41 kindergarten thru 12th grade spending 48 funding of public health
5 births to teenage mothers 45 prenatal care
5 % pop living in poverty 11 % school-age children living in poverty 1 % poor working parents w/o insurance 1 % children w/o health insurance
1 air & water pollution 1 # executions (incl 5 classified mentally retarded since 1976) 2 prison pop (724 per 100,000 residents) 9 prison spending
(from 'The Nation', Jan 24/00)
so we get an idea of how he'll pay for the massive tax cut giveaways, the welfare for Wall Street, if the surpluses never materialize - Reagan redux, slash and burn...
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> Here's some numbers (per capita rankings) to consider as > "Duh-bya" goes around braggin' how its done in TX:
> 50 per capita State spending overall > 50 teacher's salaries (counting benefits) > 49 spending for environment > 49 for the arts > 48 parks & recreation > 47 delivery of social services > 46 police protection > 45 public libraries > 42 child support collections > 40 for natural resources > 32 higher education > 41 kindergarten thru 12th grade spending > 48 funding of public health
> 5 births to teenage mothers > 45 prenatal care
> 5 % pop living in poverty > 11 % school-age children living in poverty > 1 % poor working parents w/o insurance > 1 % children w/o health insurance
> 1 air & water pollution > 1 # executions (incl 5 classified mentally retarded > since 1976) > 2 prison pop (724 per 100,000 residents) > 9 prison spending
> (from 'The Nation', Jan 24/00)
> so we get an idea of how he'll pay for the massive tax cut > giveaways, the welfare for Wall Street, if the surpluses > never materialize - Reagan redux, slash and burn...
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<PsiKinet-teqNOPsS...@juno.com.invalid> writes: >Here's some numbers (per capita rankings) to consider as >"Duh-bya" goes around braggin' how its done in TX:
>50 per capita State spending overall >50 teacher's salaries (counting benefits) >49 spending for environment >49 for the arts >48 parks & recreation >47 delivery of social services >46 police protection >45 public libraries >42 child support collections >40 for natural resources >32 higher education >41 kindergarten thru 12th grade spending >48 funding of public health
>5 births to teenage mothers >45 prenatal care
>5 % pop living in poverty >11 % school-age children living in poverty >1 % poor working parents w/o insurance >1 % children w/o health insurance
>1 air & water pollution >1 # executions (incl 5 classified mentally retarded >since 1976) >2 prison pop (724 per 100,000 residents) >9 prison spending
>(from 'The Nation', Jan 24/00)
>so we get an idea of how he'll pay for the massive tax cut >giveaways, the welfare for Wall Street, if the surpluses >never materialize - Reagan redux, slash and burn...
This is all a bunch of misleading nonsense. People vote with their feet and far more people have been moving to Texas than out of it. A lot of the poverty stats are skewed against Texas because of the border they share with Mexico and all the Mexicans who come over. And pollution stats will be skewed against Texas because of the oil industry there and because of the border with Mexico. But Texas has been doing phenominally well under George Bush. The climate in much of Texas is not all that desirable yet the low tax and pro business policies in Texas have helped to create massive opportunities for people and that's why so many move there, even though the climate sucks. The rate of new business startups in Texas is quite high.
Also, if the surplusses never materialize it'll be far easier to raise taxes again than it would be to undo the new massive entitlement spending that Al Gore is proposing.
In article <20000816215241.02377.00000...@ng-cg1.aol.com>, andyg...@aol.com
(AndyG419) writes: >>This is all a bunch of misleading nonsense. People vote with their feet and >far more people have been moving to Texas than out of it. A lot of the >poverty stats are skewed against Texas because of the border they share with >Mexico and >>all the Mexicans who come over.
>Yeh? Just how bad are things in Arizona?
I'm sure we would hear about how bad things were in Arizona if Bush was from there. If Texas really was so horrible, it wouldn't be one of the top states in the country in terms of in-migration from other states. And if Bush was such a horrible Governor, he wouldn't be enjoying such positive approval ratings in Texas.
Back in 1988, the media kept talking about how great a governor Michael Dukakis was and how he was responsiible for the so-called "Massachusetts Miracle". Yet Michael Dukakis's approval ratings in his home state of Massachusetts dropped below the 50% point during his run for the presidency and he only beat George H. Bush in his home state by 8 percentage points. That won't be the case with George W. Bush and Texas in 2000. The man is very popular in Texas. The majority of Texans think he's doing a great job. And he'll probably carry his state by 30 percentage points or more.
Yes, people vote with their feet...Bruce wrote a song or two about it. But the 'clients' brought in from other states to keep the for profit prisons at a high utilization probably took the bus. As for pollution on the border, much of it is generated by American companies sliding across the border for the low wages and lax environmental controls, for which, of course, they bear no responsibility. And no, I don't believe the highest percentage of pollution is generated at the border. The stats are misleading because the oil industry is here? Gee, this makes sense, everybody knows what a dirty industry THAT is, so take a free pass!
Duh-bya allowed them and other industries (power, chemicals) to write their own 'voluntary' standards laws...yeah, they'll clean up their own act...whenever.
Yeah businesses locate in TX, its low tax, low regulation, a wink & a nudge for oversight. There's no personal income tax either. So with all this money floating around, why doesn't any of it end up going to those 'unproductive' areas like libraries, the arts, public parks, or for the environment?
True, social spending stats are affected by immigration. Though the illegals never seem to fill out census forms or answer the door when someone comes counting.
As for Shrub's popularity rating - who's being disingenuous now? You might have heard that Duh-bya's Daddy was once President? And a great Texan? (..well, Connecticut blueblood Yankee, but he's been forgiven...he saw the light and got to TX soon as he could).
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No, Bill, don't have 'em handy, but when you're close to the worst in so many categories, the point's almost moot - if GW has improved things as much as he claims, TX sure hasn't moved up in the standings. The long running joke is - "thank god for Mississippi!" - they keep TX off the bottom.
And if TX has slipped down during GW's tenure, obviously his statements are merely "misleading nonsense".
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Anyway, Craig, the fact that you admit that you don't believe in God means that W & Co. don't give a 'hoot man' what you think!
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.oh, and about "all those Mexicans coming over", perhaps that's a good point of departure for W to explain the "misleading nonsense" known as "compassionate conservatism".
When pandering for the Hispanic vote, speaking 'pocas palabras' (a few words) en espanol and parading the fact that your brother married a Mexican isn't enough.
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> The long running joke is - >"thank god for Mississippi!" - they keep TX off the bottom.
Ok, this is ridiculous. To set the record straight:
Mississippi keeps us in ALABAMA off the bottom of all the lists. "Thank God for Mississippi" is the unofficial state motto... they should put it on the "Welcome to Alabama" signs (which, incidentally, are the ugliest welcome signs I've ever seen).
Just wanted to set that straight. ;-)
-jay
"All my 'levens and sevens been coming up sixes and nines"
It doesn't matter if they care or don't care. Just because someone doesn't believe in exactly what those on the right believe doesn't mean that their vote is meaningless. It is when their 'not giving a hoot ' becomes valid that I start to worry. I live in Scotland, and for eighteen years we posted a socialist or nationalist vote - and for eighteen years these votes were meaningless because those in middle England kept the right in power. I don't believe that America has reached the stage where Bush can basically afford to lose a large section of the voting public. Correct me if I'm wrong (and I may well be) but has Bush came out and said he doesn't want the vote of a specific group?
>> The long running joke is - >>"thank god for Mississippi!" - they keep TX off the bottom.
>Ok, this is ridiculous. To set the record straight:
>Mississippi keeps us in ALABAMA off the bottom of all the lists. "Thank God >for >Mississippi" is the unofficial state motto... they should put it on the >"Welcome to Alabama" signs (which, incidentally, are the ugliest welcome >signs >I've ever seen).
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