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Nov 2, 2009, 12:09:47 AM11/2/09
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KISS' PAUL STANLEY: 'The Fact That We Can Annoy Or Irritate People So
Much Is Kind Of Funny' - Nov. 1, 2009

Jon Bream of StarTribune.com recently conducted an interview with KISS
guitarist/vocalist Paul Stanley. A few excerpts from the chat follow
below.

StarTribune.com: Why did you decide to go with a Wal-Mart exclusive
for "Sonic Boom"?

Stanley: The reality is that the music retail store has pretty much
dried up. The music industry is in a tumble, to say the least. And Wal-
Mart offered us the opportunity to put out a package that kind of
followed our philosophy of giving more than just an album. There was a
time when we would include a "Love Gun" or a poster or a tattoo —
something to just take it over the top. We were able to put together a
package that [also] has a CD of re-records of 15 songs and a DVD of
excerpts from our most recent stadium show in Buenos Aires. To be able
to do that for 12 bucks, it's a no-brainer. Plus, there are a lot more
Wal-Marts at this point than there are record stores.

StarTribune.com: There had to be pent-up demand after not releasing an
album since "Psycho Circus", your 1998 reunion project.

Stanley: There's pent-up curiosity, but there's also room for people
to be weary or leery of a new album. There was a lot of anticipation
for the last one, and it turned out to fizzle instead of sizzle. It's
virtually impossible to make a band album when you're dealing more
with members' attorneys than with members. The last time I checked,
the attorneys don't play instruments too well. The days of entitlement
and demanding songs on an album and how to be featured, those days are
over, at least in this camp. The premise of this album was vastly
different; you had four people very committed to making a statement,
taking what we do live into the studio.

StarTribune.com: For the first time on tour, Tommy Thayer and Eric
Singer are wearing the same makeup designs Ace Frehley and Peter Criss
did. Why?

Stanley: It's very simple. To do anything else would be to cheat the
public. The four characters have grown into iconic status. To dilute
that because somebody has left the band or was asked to leave the band
is to compromise the band.

StarTribune.com: How do you feel about finally being nominated for the
Rock Hall of Fame?

Stanley: It means much more to the fans than it means to me. That
being said, I would embrace the opportunity for them. I've always been
ambivalent about it. The problem with the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
is there is no criteria for getting in. You don't have to sell X
amount of albums, you don't have to play X amount of concerts. It's a
vague concept based on some people's partisan feelings toward certain
artists or certain kinds of music. But I am as proud to have the
people fighting against us as I am of the people fighting for us. It's
all part of KISS. The fact that we can annoy or irritate people so
much is kind of funny. I bask in it sometimes. But it's only music.

StarTribune.com: If KISS gets elected, will Ace and Peter participate
in the induction ceremony?

Stanley: They would have to. The monument may have needed some
renovation and redefining, but that's the foundation, the four of us.
Absolutely. It would be as absurd as us not being in the Rock and Roll
Hall of Fame.

StarTribune.com: do you think is KISS' contribution to music and
culture?

Stanley: You'd have to ask all the people influenced by us, and that
doesn't necessarily mean rock bands. Country artists, doctors,
policemen. ... I think people aspire to greater things and perhaps
look to us for support when they're going on a lonely road where
everyone else thought they would fail, and they succeed. As a rock
band, we became a wakeup call to fans of what they shouldn't take less
than and what they should expect from bands. And the respect that fans
should get. And the fact that the audience does the band a favor by
showing up, not vice versa. Our obligation when we hit the stage is to
give everyone their money's worth and to live up to everything they
expect. If we raise the bar in that way, great.

Read the entire interview at StarTribune.com.

FVH

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Nov 2, 2009, 12:38:53 AM11/2/09
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Killer is such a troll. LOL!

FVH
Pssst. Obama has been president for 7 years and you suck at math.-
AJ,2009
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Mexicans and Latinos aren't Americans.-AJ, geography major.
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A fucking NG geek and a transvestite like you is the least of my
worries.- AJ, tranny lover.
McCain wins 2008 Election.This is what will be printed on every
newspaper next week. Wait and see.-AJ, proving that he's an idiot.
our new commander and chief.- AJ, talking politics.
Stadiums have no walls!- AJ
*Geeks with key boards aren't intimidating.-AJ
Don't blame Ace for something unless you can handle the fact that
Gene and Paul are guilty of the same thing.-Steamer
You made a boneheaded 'observation' about Ace, and you're a fool.
That's pretty much it.- Hidell, making a brilliant point about AJ.
Twinkle Toes Stanley hadn't quite picked up that Lick It Up/
Heaven's On Fire half a ballerina dance that he does.- db
How many times can the Greed Twins milk a cow? As many times as the
sheep will let them.-db

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Broncofan

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Nov 2, 2009, 3:35:27 PM11/2/09
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On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:15:05 -0500, Heat Seaker <HS34...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 21:09:47 -0800 (PST), AJ <misfits...@aol.com>
>wrote:


>
>> The days of entitlement
>>and demanding songs on an album and how to be featured, those days are
>>over, at least in this camp. The premise of this album was vastly
>>different; you had four people very committed to making a statement,
>>taking what we do live into the studio.
>

>------
>
>same as it ever was: "This time, I didnt have to put up with having to
>play other guys songs. They did what I told them to, and we lied about
>it afterwards... of course."
>
>And some of you guys wonder why Frehley doesnt want to work with them
>anymore.
>
>
And Anomaly is why Ace doesn't get what he wants put on kiss albums.
If that's all he had, no wonder he's gone.
Very weak album.

BoneMachine

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Nov 2, 2009, 7:24:05 PM11/2/09
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On Nov 2, 9:15 am, Heat Seaker <HS34e...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 21:09:47 -0800 (PST), AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The days of entitlement
> >and demanding songs on an album and how to be featured, those days are
> >over, at least in this camp. The premise of this album was vastly
> >different; you had four people very committed to making a statement,
> >taking what we do live into the studio.
>
> ------
>
> same as it ever was: "This time, I didnt have to put up with having to
> play other guys songs. They did what I told them to, and we lied about
> it afterwards... of course."
>
> And some of you guys wonder why Frehley doesnt want to work with them
> anymore.

and considering that Paul and Gene had most of the songwriting credits
on Psycho Circus, are they to blame for the album's fizzle?

Broncofan

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Nov 2, 2009, 10:24:28 PM11/2/09
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Have you hear Peter's contributions? They were even worse.
Ace's were bad too.

BoneMachine

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Nov 3, 2009, 11:18:36 AM11/3/09
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For me, Into The Void is one of the better songs on the disc. Maybe
even the best.

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steveh99

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Nov 3, 2009, 1:16:42 PM11/3/09
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In article <234397cf-6e10-4e0f-98b7-9d528792c193
@k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, machin...@gmail.com says...

I was told that "Into The Void" was a radio hit.. Whether or not that
was true is another story entirely

Broncofan

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Nov 3, 2009, 4:29:52 PM11/3/09
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It really is good on CD, but it stinks live. Ace just can't nail it
live.

Broncofan

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Nov 3, 2009, 4:33:19 PM11/3/09
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On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:26:47 -0500, Heat Seaker <HS34...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Broncofag hates Ace Frehley.
>
>I agree, Into the Void is the best song on Psycho Circus, the only
>song I listened to more than a couple of times.
>


Meat Tweaker. I Love Ace. always have. Find one instance where I have
ever said I hate Ace. You retard.

Broncofan

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Nov 3, 2009, 4:34:12 PM11/3/09
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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:16:42 -0500, steveh99 <stev...@windstream.net>
wrote:

The radio wouldn't play a Kiss song even if it was the next
"Yesterday"

F the radio.

AJ

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Nov 3, 2009, 6:30:31 PM11/3/09
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On Nov 3, 4:29�pm, Broncofan wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 08:18:36 -0800 (PST), BoneMachine
>
>
>
>
>

That's because he can't copy the studio version Tommy laid down,
lol. For me personaly the song Psycho Circus is the best track on
that album.

BoneMachine

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Nov 3, 2009, 7:26:13 PM11/3/09
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which is rather ironic since Tommy's pretty much made a career of
copying Ace.

FVH

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Nov 3, 2009, 8:24:22 PM11/3/09
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LOL! Of course, Thayer apologists will simply ignore that fact.

FVH
Pssst. Obama has been president for 7 years and you suck at math.-
AJ,2009
I'd rather speak American.-AKKK, language expert
Mexicans and Latinos aren't Americans.-AJ, geography major.
LOL! I doubt imergration is reading your posts.-Speeling bea
chaump,AKKK.
Dance, essay-AKKK, El Baboso
A fucking NG geek and a transvestite like you is the least of my
worries.- AJ, tranny lover.
McCain wins 2008 Election.This is what will be printed on every
newspaper next week. Wait and see.-AJ, proving that he's an idiot.
our new commander and chief.- AJ, talking politics.
Stadiums have no walls!- AJ
*Geeks with key boards aren't intimidating.-AJ
Don't blame Ace for something unless you can handle the fact that
Gene and Paul are guilty of the same thing.-Steamer
You made a boneheaded 'observation' about Ace, and you're a fool.
That's pretty much it.- Hidell, making a brilliant point about AJ.
Twinkle Toes Stanley hadn't quite picked up that Lick It Up/
Heaven's On Fire half a ballerina dance that he does.- db
How many times can the Greed Twins milk a cow? As many times as the
sheep will let them.-db

Bu Bronco Faggot

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Nov 4, 2009, 6:01:58 AM11/4/09
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In article <7581f5hjtv2gt4ieh...@4ax.com>, Broncofan
says...
You'd like 2 nail uncle live
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steveh99

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Nov 4, 2009, 11:15:45 AM11/4/09
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In article <6373f59chqr2cv6ms...@4ax.com>, HS34esd5
@gmail.com says...
> I thought Ace played the guitar on Into The Void. At least a lot of
> it. Tommy might have done some overdubs or something.

I thought Ace did all the guitar work on ITV?

AJ

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Nov 4, 2009, 11:40:18 AM11/4/09
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On Nov 4, 10:24�am, Heat Seaker <HS34e...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 16:26:13 -0800 (PST), BoneMachine
> I thought Ace played the guitar on Into The Void. At least a lot of
> it. Tommy might have done some overdubs or something.


True, I was only joking, but Tommy did play on every song according to
the engineer that worked on that album.

AJ

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Nov 4, 2009, 11:40:34 AM11/4/09
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On Nov 4, 11:15�am, steveh99 <steve...@windstream.net> wrote:
> In article <6373f59chqr2cv6mstdphsoqts9438v...@4ax.com>, HS34esd5

Not all of it.

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AJ

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On Nov 4, 12:01 pm, Heat Seaker <HS34e...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 08:40:34 -0800 (PST), AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com>

> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Nov 4, 11:15?am, steveh99 <steve...@windstream.net> wrote:
> >> In article <6373f59chqr2cv6mstdphsoqts9438v...@4ax.com>, HS34esd5
> >> @gmail.com says...
>
> >> > On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 16:26:13 -0800 (PST), BoneMachine
> >> > <machine.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > >> lol. ? For me personaly the song Psycho Circus is the best track on

> >> > >> that album.
>
> >> > >which is rather ironic since Tommy's pretty much made a career of
> >> > >copying Ace.
>
> >> > I thought Ace played the guitar on Into The Void. At least a lot of
> >> > it. Tommy might have done some overdubs or something.
>
> >> I thought Ace did all the guitar work on ITV?
>
> >Not all of it.
>
> source? something one of the liar twins said in an interview?

No.

> something one of them told Thayer to say?

No.


> I wouldnt automatically believe anything out of anybodys mouth
> anymore. Frehley included.

This has been posted here many times, but here you go again.

KISS - Psycho Circus Engineer Comes Clean!

Engineer Mike Plotnikoff has finally admitted that Kevin Valentine
(ex-CINDERELLA) played drums on all the songs on KISS’ Psycho Circus
album
except for 'Into The Void'.


He also admits that current KISS touring guitarist Tommy Thayer played
on the
album and copped Ace's style. He says that Tommy had some guitar on
every
track.


Plotnikoff also revealed that 19 songs were recorded for the album,
but only 11
were ever released (10 + the Japanese bonus track).


AJ

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On Nov 4, 12:02 pm, Heat Seaker <HS34e...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 08:40:18 -0800 (PST), AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com>

> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Nov 4, 10:24?am, Heat Seaker <HS34e...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 16:26:13 -0800 (PST), BoneMachine
>
> >> <machine.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> lol. ? For me personaly the song Psycho Circus is the best track on

> >> >> that album.
>
> >> >which is rather ironic since Tommy's pretty much made a career of
> >> >copying Ace.
>
> >> I thought Ace played the guitar on Into The Void. At least a lot of
> >> it. Tommy might have done some overdubs or something.
>
> >True, I was only joking, but Tommy did play on every song according to
> >the engineer that worked on that album.
>
> ... the engineer that was possibly told what to say by the greed
> brothers.
>
> maybe, maybe not.
>
> there was so much disinformation about that album, i wouldnt believe
> anything I heard from anybody.
>
> I'm not saying Thayer did not play on Into the Void.
>
> We'll never know.

The engineer has nothing to gain or lose and doesn't work for KISS.

steveh99

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Nov 4, 2009, 10:06:40 PM11/4/09
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In article <dc336149-4c4b-4db0-8432-14c6b6b06443
@h14g2000pri.googlegroups.com>, misfits...@aol.com says...
> (ex-CINDERELLA) played drums on all the songs on KISS? Psycho Circus

> album
> except for 'Into The Void'.
>
>
> He also admits that current KISS touring guitarist Tommy Thayer played
> on the
> album and copped Ace's style. He says that Tommy had some guitar on
> every
> track.
>
>
> Plotnikoff also revealed that 19 songs were recorded for the album,
> but only 11
> were ever released (10 + the Japanese bonus track).

welp that ruins the song for me

Broncofan

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Nov 4, 2009, 10:32:40 PM11/4/09
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On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 22:06:40 -0500, steveh99 <stev...@windstream.net>
wrote:

Just because who you thought was on it, was not, you now feel
differently. what a typical mindless retard response. you stupid piece
of rat shit.

FVH

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Nov 4, 2009, 11:03:38 PM11/4/09
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Just because your fuck buddy won't give you his asshole, doesn't mean
you have to come in here angry and bitter. Just pop in one of your she
male videos, and "relive" yourself, butt plug.

FVH
Pssst. Obama has been president for 7 years and you suck at math.-
AJ,2009
I'd rather speak American.-AKKK, language expert
Mexicans and Latinos aren't Americans.-AJ, geography major.
LOL! I doubt imergration is reading your posts.-Speeling bea
chaump,AKKK.
Dance, essay-AKKK, El Baboso
A fucking NG geek and a transvestite like you is the least of my
worries.- AJ, tranny lover.
McCain wins 2008 Election.This is what will be printed on every
newspaper next week. Wait and see.-AJ, proving that he's an idiot.
our new commander and chief.- AJ, talking politics.
Stadiums have no walls!- AJ
*Geeks with key boards aren't intimidating.-AJ
Don't blame Ace for something unless you can handle the fact that
Gene and Paul are guilty of the same thing.-Steamer
You made a boneheaded 'observation' about Ace, and you're a fool.
That's pretty much it.- Hidell, making a brilliant point about AJ.
Twinkle Toes Stanley hadn't quite picked up that Lick It Up/
Heaven's On Fire half a ballerina dance that he does.- db
How many times can the Greed Twins milk a cow? As many times as the
sheep will let them.-db

Bronkydong

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Nov 5, 2009, 8:18:18 AM11/5/09
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On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 20:03:38 -0800 (PST), FVH wrote:

> Just because your fuck buddy won't give you his asshole, doesn't mean
> you have to come in here angry and bitter. Just pop in one of your she
> male videos, and "relive" yourself, butt plug.

I am sorry about my attitude, but Uncle Chester the Molester hasn't been by
to see me lately. My asshole tingles with desire when I think about him, and
I am angry he is ignoring me.

Zelix

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Nov 5, 2009, 9:09:55 AM11/5/09
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BWBWBWBhahahahahahahaa

I bet he kicked the dog in a fit of rage after reading that...
Hopefully he'll respond to it after he wipes away the tears.

FVH

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Now this is a sock puppet I can enjoy! Good work, sir/madam.

Your "e-mail address" made me LOL, btw.

FVH
Pssst. Obama has been president for 7 years and you suck at math.-
AJ,2009
I'd rather speak American.-AKKK, language expert
Mexicans and Latinos aren't Americans.-AJ, geography major.
LOL! I doubt imergration is reading your posts.-Speeling bea
chaump,AKKK.
Dance, essay-AKKK, El Baboso
A fucking NG geek and a transvestite like you is the least of my
worries.- AJ, tranny lover.
McCain wins 2008 Election.This is what will be printed on every
newspaper next week. Wait and see.-AJ, proving that he's an idiot.
our new commander and chief.- AJ, talking politics.
Stadiums have no walls!- AJ
*Geeks with key boards aren't intimidating.-AJ
Don't blame Ace for something unless you can handle the fact that
Gene and Paul are guilty of the same thing.-Steamer
You made a boneheaded 'observation' about Ace, and you're a fool.
That's pretty much it.- Hidell, making a brilliant point about AJ.
Twinkle Toes Stanley hadn't quite picked up that Lick It Up/
Heaven's On Fire half a ballerina dance that he does.- db
How many times can the Greed Twins milk a cow? As many times as the
sheep will let them.-db

Bronkydong

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Nov 5, 2009, 6:29:06 PM11/5/09
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On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:56:45 -0800 (PST), FVH wrote:

> Now this is a sock puppet I can enjoy! Good work, sir/madam.
>
> Your "e-mail address" made me LOL, btw.

FVH - I am happy to bring some joy into your life. My own life has none. I
lift weights to compensate for a miniscule penis and my fear of women. I
talk like a hardass in this newsgroup because in real life I am a wimp
despite my huge pectoral muscles and mighty arms.

FVH

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Nov 6, 2009, 12:01:00 AM11/6/09
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Why are you so down, Bronkydong? You need to go workout and let the
rage out.

FVH
Pssst. Obama has been president for 7 years and you suck at math.-
AJ,2009
I'd rather speak American.-AKKK, language expert
Mexicans and Latinos aren't Americans.-AJ, geography major.
LOL! I doubt imergration is reading your posts.-Speeling bea
chaump,AKKK.
Dance, essay-AKKK, El Baboso
A fucking NG geek and a transvestite like you is the least of my
worries.- AJ, tranny lover.
McCain wins 2008 Election.This is what will be printed on every
newspaper next week. Wait and see.-AJ, proving that he's an idiot.
our new commander and chief.- AJ, talking politics.
Stadiums have no walls!- AJ
*Geeks with key boards aren't intimidating.-AJ
Don't blame Ace for something unless you can handle the fact that
Gene and Paul are guilty of the same thing.-Steamer
You made a boneheaded 'observation' about Ace, and you're a fool.
That's pretty much it.- Hidell, making a brilliant point about AJ.
Twinkle Toes Stanley hadn't quite picked up that Lick It Up/
Heaven's On Fire half a ballerina dance that he does.- db
How many times can the Greed Twins milk a cow? As many times as the
sheep will let them.-db

Broncofan

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On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:02:46 -0500, Heat Seaker <HS34...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 08:40:18 -0800 (PST), AJ <misfits...@aol.com>
>wrote:


>
>>On Nov 4, 10:24?am, Heat Seaker <HS34e...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 16:26:13 -0800 (PST), BoneMachine
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <machine.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> >> lol. ? For me personaly the song Psycho Circus is the best track on


>>> >> that album.
>>>
>>> >which is rather ironic since Tommy's pretty much made a career of
>>> >copying Ace.
>>>
>>> I thought Ace played the guitar on Into The Void. At least a lot of
>>> it. Tommy might have done some overdubs or something.
>>
>>
>>True, I was only joking, but Tommy did play on every song according to
>>the engineer that worked on that album.
>
>

>... the engineer that was possibly told what to say by the greed
>brothers.
>
>maybe, maybe not.
>
>there was so much disinformation about that album, i wouldnt believe
>anything I heard from anybody.
>
>I'm not saying Thayer did not play on Into the Void.
>
>We'll never know.

If Vinnie had stayed in the band, the song would have been called,
"Into the boy".

FVH

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Nov 6, 2009, 1:05:13 AM11/6/09
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Uh oh...Broncofag is HORNY AS HELL tonight! Keep it to yourself and
your "life partner" AJ. Since Killer's Ravens beat your Broncos, does
he gets to tongue your asshole?

FVH
Pssst. Obama has been president for 7 years and you suck at math.-
AJ,2009
I'd rather speak American.-AKKK, language expert
Mexicans and Latinos aren't Americans.-AJ, geography major.
LOL! I doubt imergration is reading your posts.-Speeling bea
chaump,AKKK.
Dance, essay-AKKK, El Baboso
A fucking NG geek and a transvestite like you is the least of my
worries.- AJ, tranny lover.
McCain wins 2008 Election.This is what will be printed on every
newspaper next week. Wait and see.-AJ, proving that he's an idiot.
our new commander and chief.- AJ, talking politics.
Stadiums have no walls!- AJ
*Geeks with key boards aren't intimidating.-AJ
Don't blame Ace for something unless you can handle the fact that
Gene and Paul are guilty of the same thing.-Steamer
You made a boneheaded 'observation' about Ace, and you're a fool.
That's pretty much it.- Hidell, making a brilliant point about AJ.
Twinkle Toes Stanley hadn't quite picked up that Lick It Up/
Heaven's On Fire half a ballerina dance that he does.- db
How many times can the Greed Twins milk a cow? As many times as the
sheep will let them.-db

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