1. The Elder.
2. Asylum.
3. COTN, the version without the make-up.
4. ST&H.
5. Hot in the Shade.
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middle, get out."
*Paul Stanley*
The fans wanted us to play, We hear and we obey.
*GENE $IMMONS*
Top five WORST, hmmm. Let's see:
1) The Elder
2) Carnival of souls
3) COTN, non makeup version
4) Hot in the shade
5) REVENGE
"Sometimes... our mind plays tricks on us" - Bela Lugosi
*I wish they had went with the art work that they had planed on using
for this album. Does anyone know why they didn't use the planed artwork
for this album cover? and please don't say, " because Gene was too
greedy to pay the artist royalties." But really, does anyone know why
this artwork wasn't used?
aLEx
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*WOW! Those are classic pictures of KISS in their prime on that cover.
Those pics are magical IMO, but you have a right to your opinion.
aLEx
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It was once said that they didn't want to confuse fans who would think it was a
new album with Ace and Peter since it came out during the reunion time. So as
to not confuse fans, they put the photo with Kulick and Singer on it.
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I think the reason is pretty simple, if regrettable for the loss of striking
album art. I believe they wanted there to be absolutely no confusion about
just who was featured on this new KISS album. ...Ironic, considering how
Psycho Circus turned out, huh? But no, what I meant is they wanted a clear
distinction made between musical, unmasked, leather-fetish KISS vs makeup,
reunion-era, spandexed KISS. This KISS album was by "those other guys."
Paul and Gene and Bruce did do their small part in promoting it, I'll give them
that. (Eric refused, because he wasn't getting paid for it.) Paul and Gene
were at the radio stations talking about the album, playing tracks. And, they
did a cool interview with Metal Edge that was all about every track on the
album and the recording process. This album was a Band effort, the last to
this point...
But what's regrettable about it is, since the album was initially shelved, and
then they went ahead and put out a no-frills version, this album never got the
benefits a new KISS album usually receives...a strong, marketable image on the
cover for one thing.
I still think they Could've considered using the head art up front and put the
band picture on back. Then you still get the "disclaimer" effect, but the
head itself is still there to draw people in to at least pick it up.
In one sense, that's showing a lot of respect for both lineups. If they'd put
that album out just with the KISS name on it and that cool head artwork and
there were big store displays and posters up...that just might've sold a few
more copies. It was 1996, after all... Anything for another buck?
Apparently not....
"JUNGLE" was playing like mad all over the radio around here, it did really
really well on rock radio for a song with virtually no push behind it. I'm
not sure many people even knew it was a KISS song.
While I missed out on having the album in a great package, at least the album
came out after all...I was afraid for a while that it never would. And I'm
kinda glad that picture was there to say, THIS BAND did it, these guys... no
one else.
I think there's also a chance the title of the album had something to do with
the cover art change....perhaps... I'm not absolutely certain of this, but I
believe the Fans actually Named this album Carnival Of Souls...which is a
first, as far as I know. It first showed up on the internet, initially as a
song title Gene had tossed out, and it seemed to gain a life of it's own, as
people started pulling for it as the album name.
See, Gene had this little pet idea about calling the album, "HEAD," which
might've suited the artwork Better than COS, you know. But I know I wasn't
crazy about it, even though I dug the artwork. And I remember Paul saying in
an interview, "I can tell you it's NOT going to be called 'Head'...!" But no
other title ever presented itself, even as a rumor, and before long the
internuts were, in the majority, referring to it as COS all the time. I
remember a time or two when someone would ask, "I thought it was going to be
called Head, ya know, like the artwork we saw on KMA?" And I'd find myself
saying, "NO! That's a stupid title!" And COS came to be. It was a shelved
project anyway... I figure it only came out because it was leaking all over the
place anyway... A lot of inferior copies were out there... I know, I had to
buy a couple.
Funny thing is--today, I find I kinda Like Gene's original jest of an idea...
Who knows, if he'd still like to find a use for the artwork, they just might go
on and call the Next album Head just for the joke of it! Would we see a big
leather-faced flaming head prop on the next tour? Eh...probably a bit much for
this family-friendly version of KISS.
*Very true. BTW, Everytime I read your post I get a craving for a
meatball sub or a pizza, LOL, Just once I would love to see you get mad
at someone and say, "kapesh?" or is it "Capesh"? or "Gotplan sleeps
with the fishes" lol.
3. Carnival Of Souls -- Not because it's a bad photo, but because I knew it
wasn't originally meant to Be a mere snapshot taken during the recording
sessions. Gene had me ready for something a little more interesting. A
leather-faced choker with a flaming head... Interesting and mysterious and
twisted and sinister all at once. And Gene Likes to say "Head...!
Uh-huh-huh..."
4. Creatures Redux... Not necessary at all, when you consider the original has
perhaps the greatest of all KISS album covers... But it's a nice
record-company trick in retrospect. Make it look like a new album in order to
get people to give it another chance who might've missed out on it the first
time around. (It sure surprised ME! But I had the original, so...) After
all, KISS was dead in the water in '82, didn't sell much, so why not give a
great album a new package for a new audience in '86 or whenever this came out?
(In the midst of their return to Platinum status) Sure, Bruce didn't play on
it, but hell, no one guitarist who did was on the original cover, either!
5. Smashes, Thrashes and Hurls... Or Dressed To Klown... I dunno... I
declare a tossup.
*Well that makes sense, but I guess they didn't consider that during
COTN and other albums, lol.
Best:
1.) Dressed to Kill
2.) KISS
3.) Alive!
4.) Love Gun
5.) Creatures of the Night (makeup)
Actually, Gene played bass on less than half of the album.
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*Yep.
*Thanks for the info, great post.
aLEx
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DON'T WORRY, HE RIPS SO MANY PEOPLE OFF THEY NEVER SEE HOW BAD THEY ARE
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MAYBE YOU SHOULD ASK FOUR TIMES, INSTEAD OF TWICE, YOU INSECURE FUCK.
THE DIFFERENCE WAS THAT THE FAT BALD MEN IN WIGS WERE
TRYING TO CONFUSE
THE FANS ON THOSE ALBUMS
WHAT KIND OF MAGIC, YOU FUCKING FAIRY
YOU'RE A FUCKING RACIST, BECKY
2) Alive: How to pose like KISS.
3) Love Gun: Have they been working out?
4) COTN: The blue of night and glowing eyes works well with the tital.
5) Destroyer: Tital and Image work well together.
Shane
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>IYO what is the top 5 worst KISS album covers?
Hotter Than Hell has to be the ugliest album cover of all time.
thats why I like it so much.
KISS...@webtv.net (AJ) wrote in message news:<26343-3D...@storefull-2278.public.lawson.webtv.net>...
> IYO what is the top 5 worst KISS album covers?
> My picks in order.
>
> 1. The Elder.
> 2. Asylum.
> 3. COTN, the version without the make-up.
> 4. ST&H.
> 5. Hot in the Shade.
>
AJ: I have the original artwork, 2 variations of it in fact. I will take a
photograph of it and Email it to you. I think you'll like them.
"That cow, pig or chicken that you murdered and ingested will exact it's
revenge upon you from the inside. They're doing so now, and I don't blame them
a bit..."
Actually, in an interview with Metal Edge as far back as 1994 or 95, they were
trying to get information out of Gene about the new album, and they asked him,
"Can you tell us the names of some of the songs?" - and "Carnival of Souls" was
one of the names that he gave, and this is where the phenomenon grew from.
Well they could have let the fuckin' fans know via the BACK COVER!!!!
Alive 2?????? Alive II is one of the best IMO. Now, Alive 3... there's an awful
cover for ya..
I love the Asylum cover: a TRUE KISS cover!!
>2. Hot In The Shade--because there's no KISS logo in the corner to identify
>it.
There is a KISS logo. Look again...
TTYrant can i please get an email of the artwork, too? I've never actually
seen the original artwork.
Bad timing??? at this time KISS was back on in make up
SO YOU THINK GENE IS A FAT AND 7" WIGS?
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I like KILERS nice purple nice Eric Carr :)
WHY YOU ARE SO OBSESSION WITH BECKY???? GOTPLAN?
Yes as soon as I can take a photograph, I will either post a link to it, or
Email it to you.
> >Regrding C.O.S, they had to let fans know that Eric and Bruce were on
> >the album. Hence, they were pictured on the cover.
>
> Well they could have let the fuckin' fans know via the BACK COVER!!!!
They could have. They could also have had track 1 being an audio
explnation. Guess what? They didn't. It isn't that important, is it?
Shane
Well, personally I think what they should have done is to put the COS artwork
as it is now, fine, on the outside, but then have it where you could FOLD the
cover the other way and have the "REAL" cover for yourself. I have Emailed the
alternate covers to COS to several people here in this newsgroup.
> Well, personally I think what they should have done is to put the
> COS artwork as it is now, fine, on the outside, but then have it where
> you could FOLD the cover the other way and have the "REAL" cover for
> yourself. I have Emailed the alternate covers to COS to several people
> here in this newsgroup.
I have 2 versions of the cover that a guy made for me in 1997. He
gave them to me for free because I traded some bootlegs with him.
The inserts included lyrics, alternate pictures and alternate covers.
They do look really nice, but I'm content with how they released
C.O.S. I really dig C.O.S because it is different. One thing that
would have mad the package of C.O.S more interesting was to put the
flaming head on this CD itself, as a picture CD. I was listening to
C.O.S today. I like it quite a lot.
Shane
GENE IS FAT AND WEARS A WIG
YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT?
*It is a Italian slang word used in the mafia, it means do you
understand.
Been absent for a bit so I get to jump onto old threads...
>
> 1. Animilize
> 2. Lick it Up
> 3. Asylum
> 4. 1985 version of Creatures of the Night
> 5. Smashes Thrashes and Hits
>
> Shane
1-Asylum (ew... just ew)
2-redo of Creatures (not needed)
3-Killers (that whole look is wrong)
4-Lick It Up (Blondie fits more than Pinky any day)
5-Hotter Than Hell (first album I owned)
I thought the Animalize cover was unique in that it tried to
represent the band as 4 individual personalities, much like
RARO and the 4 themed backgrounds. I think these are the only
2 covers that did this...
rjh
--
Insanity: doing the same thing over
and over again and expecting different
results.
Albert Einstein
That's the first album I ever owned, and yeah... of the
classics it's the UGLY one! I still see Peter holding onto a
big ol' breast!
1. Asylum
2. Animalize
3.The Elder
4.The new one
5. '85 COTN
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KISS...@webtv.net (AJ) wrote in message news:<26343-3D...@storefull-2278.public.lawson.webtv.net>...
Please explain what wrong with KILLERS?!
SHITTY OUT-OF-FOCUS PICTURE WITH CRAPPY COSTUMES, CUT OUT AND PASTED ON AN UGLY
BACKGROUND WITH A SHIT-SMELLING LOGO
BULLSHIT
IT'S
ONE
OF
BEST
FACE
OF
4
ESPECIALLY
ERIC CARR
GOOD
MEMORY
Are you deaf AND blind? Did you not SEE the cover?
Tommy Thayer and Mick Fleetwood were NOT in Kiss until the late 80's.
>
SHITTY OUT-OF-FOCUS PICTURE WITH CRAPPY COSTUMES, CUT OUT AND PASTED ON AN
UGLY BACKGROUND WITH A SHIT-SMELLING LOGO
>
So whats not to like about that?
I have always like cover of KILLERS I like the picture of Eric Carr
In article <20020815063454...@mb-ch.aol.com>, got...@aol.com
says...
DUDE YOUR INSULTS ARE AS GAY AS YOU ARE
PUT YOUR DICK BACK IN YOUR PANTS, YOU USELESS RETARD
NOT TRUE!
KILLERS COVER IS VERY NICE AND SHARP PICTURE YOUR SAYING OUT-OF-FOCUS GET A
GLASSES GOTPLAN?
>
>> 3-Killers (that whole look is wrong)
>
> Please explain what wrong with KILLERS?!
I just didn't like the streamlined look of their costumes. I
mean... Paul looks like an aerobics instructor! That, and it's
just a pose, like Lick It Up. Boring.
I like art on an album cover, but not crappy art like Asylum...
Ken Kelly did good KISS covers.
Killers is 100 times better than Asylum...
In article <Ta%69.8004$xL5....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
wma...@bigpond.net.au says...
Opinion? No I don't think so, it obviously better than Asylum...
Looks like Wesley now suffers from "Trolt's Syndrome". A disease where you
honestly believe that your opinions are facts.
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In article <4J179.8403$xL5....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
wma...@bigpond.net.au says...
In article <20020816104049...@mb-ms.aol.com>,
vvwa...@aol.comm says...
Killers sucks half as bad as Asylum and twice as much as HTH,
according to my list at least.
> 1-Asylum
> 2-redo of Creatures
> 3-Killers
> 4-Lick It Up
> 5-Hotter Than Hell
> Pyro Messiah wrote:
>>
>> >Opinion? No I don't think so, it obviously better than
>> >Asylum...
>>
>> Looks like Wesley now suffers from "Trolt's Syndrome". A
>> disease where you honestly believe that your opinions are
>> facts.
>>
> Swellsley was first afflicted with the disease last year
> when he slammed those with opinions of Eric Singer being an
> impostor Catman.
>
And then he demands Thayer be dropped like a hot potato...
Hey Pyro are you kidding me right? Please tell me is Killers better than
Ayslum?
You do.
Bullshit. It one of interesting cover album, I like the photo of Eric Carr
that what is special all about....you all KISS fans are ashame yourselves...
What I think doesn't matter. Your confusing something you like for something
that is fact. Get a dictionary out if you have one and look up the words
"fact" and "opinion".
Just for the record, I do like Killers cover better than Asylum, but they are
both crappy. Gene and Paul look very stupid on Killers. I was expecting Paul
to do a cover of Olivia Newton John's "Physical" with that look he had.
Mick
"Pyro Messiah" <vvwa...@aol.comm> wrote in message
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Thank you I feel much better now...
In article <3dh79.783$7V6....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
wma...@bigpond.net.au says...
If you need my opinion to make yourself feel better, then you need a serious
dose of reality. Wake up Wes, it was MY OPINION, not a verification of it
being a fact. In case you missed it, I think both covers suck.
LOL!!! too bad your true answer is YES.
YES or NO will do.
Ok, you want my true answer in the form of a yes or a no? Yes, you're a moron.
Read my post and take it for what it is instead of trying to use it to figure
out the difference between a fact and an opinion.
WHAT THE FUCK IS SPECIAL ABOUT THAT
WHY DON'T YOU TRY TO GET YOU FILTERS TO WORK AGAIN, IDIOT?
because it rare to see eric carr in fox make up on the album
IT'S FUCKING RARER TO SEE VINNIE IN MAKEUP ON AN ALBUM, YOU CHILD MOLESTER
YEAH FUCKING RIGHT! WHERE IS VINNIE ANY ON BOOTLEG LPs? AJ U HAVE IT?
*I don't think I have any bootleg LP's with Vinnie but I have a few
bootleg CD's with him.
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middle, get out."
*Paul Stanley*
The fans wanted us to play, We hear and we obey.
*GENE $IMMONS*
There is no such thing as failure.
You're ALWAYS allowed to try again.
As long as you're alive, you've WON.
*Gene $immons*
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Okay just so i don't feel all left out of the look...is ther a site i can
go to nad see all the album covers...
And this is special why....
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The worst album cover would be the one that printed out this thread.