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Tattoo Vampire

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May 9, 2013, 8:08:14 AM5/9/13
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Busboy Jefe

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May 9, 2013, 10:09:40 PM5/9/13
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On May 9, 7:08 am, Tattoo Vampire <sitt...@this.computer> wrote:
> http://s12.postimg.org/r07qjqrvh/941016_572455706128239_1444803504_n.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etuPF1yJRzg

El Jefe

83LowRider

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May 10, 2013, 8:25:57 AM5/10/13
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Tattoo Vampire wrote:
> http://s12.postimg.org/r07qjqrvh/941016_572455706128239_1444803504_n.jpg

Why would it surprise anyone that Reagan < as gov >
would ban open carry in CA? CA has a long history of
being very liberal and we're not in the old west anymore.

Sarah Palin? I don't know the story behind it nor do I care.

Mitt Romney? Was he president? Did he serve before or
after Palin? Mitt Romney took his stance... like it or not from
EITHER side. Good for him for admitting such -- it probably
took a lot of balls for a GOP candidate to go against the 'grain'.

Obama? Who the hell (of any importance) has said that Obama
is coming after our guns?

Where in the fuck do you get the <wrong> impression that
republicans are all for openly carrying fully automatic weapons?

Most republicans are pretty damn happy with most of the
gun laws. If they fucking weren't you'd see them advocating
for LESSER gun laws. Grow the fuck up tv and stop being
suck a fucking drama queen.


AJ

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May 15, 2013, 2:27:51 PM5/15/13
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On May 10, 7:25 am, "83LowRider" <83lowri...@nywilldo.com> wrote:
> Tattoo Vampire wrote:
> >http://s12.postimg.org/r07qjqrvh/941016_572455706128239_1444803504_n.jpg
>
> Why would it surprise anyone that Reagan < as gov >
> would ban open carry in CA? CA has a long history of
> being very liberal and we're not in the old west anymore.


BTW, Don/Tattoo Vampire is from CA that unfortunately brought his
liberal ideology to West Virginia. As of now, CA is in $1.0 Trillion
in Debt.
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2013/05/californias-statelocal-governments.html

Liberal ideology has proven not to work as most States with the
highest debts are blue States and many are moving to red States. Like
I said years ago, just sit back and watch them destroy themselves, and
it's happening a little more each day.

https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&q=teat&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.46471029,d.eWU&biw=1280&bih=709&um=1&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iw&ei=C9CTUZKvBZPY8gSfpICQDQ#safe=off&hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=blue+States+in+the+most+in+debt+2013&oq=blue+States+in+the+most+in+debt+2013&gs_l=serp.3...5210.10395.0.11081.6.6.0.0.0.0.172.565.5j1.6.0...0.0...1c.1.12.psy-ab.jr1sLN48JcU&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&fp=307dd1af88bf3748&biw=1280&bih=709

Busboy Jefe

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May 15, 2013, 4:16:10 PM5/15/13
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On May 15, 1:27 pm, AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com> wrote:
> On May 10, 7:25 am, "83LowRider" <83lowri...@nywilldo.com> wrote:
>
> > Tattoo Vampire wrote:
> > >http://s12.postimg.org/r07qjqrvh/941016_572455706128239_1444803504_n.jpg
>
> > Why would it surprise anyone that Reagan < as gov >
> > would ban open carry in CA? CA has a long history of
> > being very liberal and we're not in the old west anymore.
>
> BTW, Don/Tattoo Vampire is from CA that unfortunately brought his
> liberal ideology to West Virginia.  As of now, CA is in $1.0 Trillion
> in Debt.http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2013/05/californias-statel...
>
> Liberal ideology has proven not to work as most States with the
> highest debts are blue States and many are moving to red States.  Like
> I said years ago, just sit back and watch them destroy themselves, and
> it's happening a little more each day.
>
> https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&q=teat&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=b...

I love it when The Professor links to a general Google search and
doesn't even bother to, you know, look at the "proof" he's offering.
For example:

"Here’s a list of the top 10 states that got the most back in terms of
federal benefits:

New Mexico, Mississippi, Alaska, Louisiana, W. Virginia, N.Dakota, S.
Dakota, Alabama, Kentucky, Virginia."

Wait, VIRGINIA? The hell you say! Oh, that's right...they took that
stimulus money. Leeches. And just look at that list. Red, red, red.

"Now consider the bottom 10, i.e., the ones that give more to the
federal government in taxes than they get in return. From 1 to 10,
they are:

New Jersey, Nevada, Connecticut, New Hampshire, Minnesota, Illinois,
Delaware, California, New York, Colorado"

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_reckoning/2012/10/25/blue_state_red_face_guess_who_benefits_more_from_your_taxes.html

Wow, look at that...all those damn librul states shouldering the
(obese) load of the red states. I wonder what would happen if the blue
states stopped the welfare and you guys would no longer be able to
gorge yourselves at the trough of the collective?

See, you guys can chirp about low taxes and all that shit -- but you
fail to mention, or realize even, that you're being subsidized by
those blue states as a result.

Keep jerking off to your fantasies that hordes of people are leaving
California to go live in Alabama. Hilarious.

El Jefe



FVH

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May 15, 2013, 5:28:58 PM5/15/13
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On May 15, 1:27 pm, AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com> wrote:
> BTW, Don/Tattoo Vampire is from CA that unfortunately brought his
> liberal ideology to West Virginia.  As of now, CA is in $1.0 Trillion
> in Debt.http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2013/05/californias-statel...

You've clearly never been to California. I could have sworn you have
and assumed those earthquakes are just you trying to roll your fat
self out of bed. LOL!

> Liberal ideology has proven not to work as most States with the
> highest debts are blue States and many are moving to red States.  Like
> I said years ago, just sit back and watch them destroy themselves, and
> it's happening a little more each day.
>
> https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&q=teat&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=b...

You should actually read the links you post. Actually, continue not to
so we can all laugh at you.

Hi, Killer! Hope you enjoyed reading this post!
FVH
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wrights a review of the new album the week it comes out. LOL!-
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watch.-Professor AJ on China's nukes.
This was passed in 2008 under Obama.- AJ, political guru
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was
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feelings.
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FVH

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May 15, 2013, 5:32:15 PM5/15/13
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Killer LOVES to throw fat shit against the wall, hoping it sticks. Too
bad for him, it ends up all over his face.
On May 15, 3:16 pm, Busboy Jefe <busboyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I love it when The Professor links to a general Google search and
> doesn't even bother to, you know, look at the "proof" he's offering.
> For example:
>
> "Here’s a list of the top 10 states that got the most back in terms of
> federal benefits:
>
> New Mexico, Mississippi, Alaska, Louisiana, W. Virginia, N.Dakota, S.
> Dakota, Alabama, Kentucky, Virginia."
>
> Wait, VIRGINIA? The hell you say! Oh, that's right...they took that
> stimulus money. Leeches. And just look at that list. Red, red, red.
>
> "Now consider the bottom 10, i.e., the ones that give more to the
> federal government in taxes than they get in return. From 1 to 10,
> they are:
>
> New Jersey, Nevada, Connecticut, New Hampshire, Minnesota, Illinois,
> Delaware, California, New York, Colorado"
>
> http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_reckoning/2012/10/25/blue_state_red_fa...

steveh99

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May 15, 2013, 6:01:21 PM5/15/13
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In article <78b730b6-a617-4144-8402-
30e5a3...@n11g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>, misfits...@aol.com
says...
**YAWN!**

Tattoo Vampire

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May 15, 2013, 7:15:34 PM5/15/13
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AJ <misfits...@aol.com> wrote:

> BTW, Don/Tattoo Vampire is from CA

You're wrong. I lived in CA several time, but guess what, AJ? I'm a good ole
boy who was born and raised in rural, Bible-thumping, conservative North
Carolina.

83LowRider

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May 16, 2013, 8:14:21 AM5/16/13
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Busboy Jefe wrote:

> I love it when The Professor links to a general Google search and
> doesn't even bother to, you know, look at the "proof" he's offering.
> For example:
>
> "Here�s a list of the top 10 states that got the most back in terms of
> federal benefits:
>
> New Mexico, Mississippi, Alaska, Louisiana, W. Virginia, N.Dakota, S.
> Dakota, Alabama, Kentucky, Virginia."
>
> Wait, VIRGINIA? The hell you say! Oh, that's right...they took that
> stimulus money. Leeches. And just look at that list. Red, red, red.

What does this 'prove'? The rural states are given more monies
for a huge variety of reasons... development, roads, farm
subsidies. You sure as hell ain't gonna feed the country on
what they raise in --

> New Jersey, Nevada, Connecticut, New Hampshire, Minnesota,
> Illinois, Delaware, California, New York, Colorado

Another consideration -- the states above (that you mention
below) are heavily union and/or highly paid. Hasn't it been
your belief all along that the highest earners should pay
more?

> "Now consider the bottom 10, i.e., the ones that give more to the
> federal government in taxes than they get in return. From 1 to 10,
> they are:
>
> New Jersey, Nevada, Connecticut, New Hampshire, Minnesota, Illinois,
> Delaware, California, New York, Colorado"
>
> http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_reckoning/2012/10/25/blue_state_red_face_guess_who_benefits_more_from_your_taxes.html
>
> Wow, look at that...all those damn librul states shouldering the
> (obese) load of the red states. I wonder what would happen if the blue
> states stopped the welfare and you guys would no longer be able to
> gorge yourselves at the trough of the collective?

I suppose the blue states would have to learn to farm or
bring in more mexicans.

> See, you guys can chirp about low taxes and all that shit -- but you
> fail to mention, or realize even, that you're being subsidized by
> those blue states as a result.

More bullshit. Look at the states and the link you gave....

1) New Mexico - Indian reservations, military bases,
federal research labs, farm subsidies, retirement programs..

Now how is that money going to the average citizen in New Mexico?

2) Mississippi - Farm subsidies, military spending, nutrition
and anti-poverty aid, retirement programs.

Farm subsidies are wrong IMO, but they are done to keep
prices down across the country. Military spending ain't
helping Joe Citizen either.

3) Alaska - Per capita No 1 recipient of federal benefits;
infrastructure projects, DOT and pork projects.

Make of this one what you will.
And then the list goes on in a similar manner... civil service
pensions, farm subsidies, energy subsidies, etc. Your list
is not a direct correlation to the point you wished to make.


AJ

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May 16, 2013, 3:32:57 PM5/16/13
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On May 15, 6:15 pm, Tattoo Vampire <sitt...@this.computer> wrote:
Then what went wrong with you?

FVH

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May 16, 2013, 7:00:19 PM5/16/13
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This would be like you asking someone, "Why are you so fat?" LOL!

Tattoo Vampire

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May 16, 2013, 7:33:30 PM5/16/13
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AJ <misfits...@aol.com> wrote:

> Then what went wrong with you?

Do you mean what went right with me? (Or would that be what went left with
me?) :-P

Busboy Jefe

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May 16, 2013, 8:33:45 PM5/16/13
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On May 16, 7:14 am, "83LowRider" <83lowri...@nywilldo.com> wrote:

> What does this 'prove'? The rural states are given more monies
> for a huge variety of reasons... development, roads, farm
> subsidies.

It proves that The Professor's attempts at backing up his attempts at
points are complete failures. Or do you feel it's just fine to post a
generic search as proof? Would you not at least check the first page
of links to make sure they relate to whatever you're attempting to
say?

It also pokes a hole in his theory that red states are somehow
superior to blue ones. Sure, some people may be moving to those areas
to find better opportunities, but those opportunities are available in
part because red states are being carried by blue ones. Sounds good to
say "we're a low tax state!", but it means little when you're being
subsidized in order to make up for it.

El Jefe

83LowRider

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May 17, 2013, 1:34:39 AM5/17/13
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Busboy Jefe wrote:

> It also pokes a hole in his theory that red states are somehow
> superior to blue ones. Sure, some people may be moving to those areas
> to find better opportunities, but those opportunities are available in
> part because red states are being carried by blue ones. Sounds good to
> say "we're a low tax state!", but it means little when you're being
> subsidized in order to make up for it.

You seem to be confusing federal monies and state monies.
TN does not have a state income tax. Monies TN receives
(or not) from federal "redistribution" is NOT based on
them being considered a low tax state. And tho we
don't have a state income tax, we DO pay 10% for
our sales tax. There are a couple states with no sales
tax.... and what they do or do not receive (federally)
is NOT based on them not having a sales tax. Money
that the fed redistributes will always have one state
paying more than the other... otherwise the fed would
not be taking and redistributing it. As a final note, it
is the FEDERAL GOV'T making the decision as how
monies are redistributed... it ain't up to the states.


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