Anti-gubmint tough guy has enough, starts taking the country back

[Busboy Jefe]

So let's see here. Angry southern whitey who hates the gubmint? Check.

Previous history of threatening to shoot intruders on his property?
Check.

Sees himself as an anti-law rebel? Check.

Demonstrates his bravado by beating a dog to death with a pipe,
threatening to shoot neighborhood children, and firing shots at
adults? Check.

Sounds like the perfect man to lead The Revolution! So how does he
proceed?

...by killing a 66-year-old bus driver, then kidnapping a 5 year-old
boy and holding him hostage in an underground bunker:

http://news.yahoo.com/negotiators-talking-ala-captor-pipe-181459029.html

OK, to be somewhat fair...if I lived in rural fucking Alabama, I'd
probably wanna kill stuff too. That aside...

THIS is the kind of idiot that would be a part of your "civil war",
Professor. Small-dicked and only tough enough to take his anger out on
dogs, old men, and kids. Good luck with that!

El Jefe

[steveh99]

In article <2ea7c884-f43e-4fdd-a228-56a9e3582bd2
@m12g2000yqp.googlegroups.com>, busbo...@gmail.com says...

If he ran for prez in 2016 on the republican ticket you can bet cronies
like AJ, 83 would vote for him

[83LowRider]

Busboy Jefe wrote:

> Demonstrates his bravado by beating a dog to death with a pipe,
> threatening to shoot neighborhood children, and firing shots at
> adults? Check.
>
> Sounds like the perfect man to lead The Revolution! So how does he
> proceed?
>
> ...by killing a 66-year-old bus driver, then kidnapping a 5 year-old
> boy and holding him hostage in an underground bunker:
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/negotiators-talking-ala-captor-pipe-181459029.html
>
> OK, to be somewhat fair...if I lived in rural fucking Alabama, I'd
> probably wanna kill stuff too. That aside...
>
> THIS is the kind of idiot that would be a part of your "civil war",
> Professor. Small-dicked and only tough enough to take his anger out on
> dogs, old men, and kids. Good luck with that!

This guy needs to be beaten with a pipe until dead.

He has nothing to do with any political argument
whatsoever; maybe with the exception that most
on the right would put him up against the death
penalty while many on the left would want to ban
pipes and explore his inner consciousness. Fuck
him - kill him.

[83LowRider]

steveh99 wrote:

>> OK, to be somewhat fair...if I lived in rural fucking Alabama, I'd
>> probably wanna kill stuff too. That aside...
>>
>> THIS is the kind of idiot that would be a part of your "civil war",
>> Professor. Small-dicked and only tough enough to take his anger out
>> on dogs, old men, and kids. Good luck with that!
>>
>> El Jefe
>
> If he ran for prez in 2016 on the republican ticket you can bet
> cronies like AJ, 83 would vote for him

Sorry, I voted Libertarian. Who did YOU vote for
little stevie?

[steveh99]

In article <keeq38$bbq$1...@dont-email.me>, 83low...@nywilldo.com says...

I voted for Obama..
Next question?!

[steveh99]

In article <MPG.2b74b998e...@news.eternal-september.org>,
stev...@roadrunner.com says...

I actually wrote a name in.
His name is Montgomery Brewster lol

[AJ]

On Jan 31, 3:09 pm, Busboy Jefe <busboyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So let's see here. Angry southern whitey who hates the gubmint? Check.
>
> Previous history of threatening to shoot intruders on his property?
> Check.
>
> Sees himself as an anti-law rebel? Check.
>
> Demonstrates his bravado by beating a dog to death with a pipe,
> threatening to shoot neighborhood children, and firing shots at
> adults? Check.
>
> Sounds like the perfect man to lead The Revolution! So how does he

> proce.ed?

>
> ...by killing a 66-year-old bus driver, then kidnapping a 5 year-old
> boy and holding him hostage in an underground bunker:
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/negotiators-talking-ala-captor-pipe-181459029.html
>
> OK, to be somewhat fair...if I lived in rural fucking Alabama, I'd
> probably wanna kill stuff too. That aside...
>
> THIS is the kind of idiot that would be a part of your "civil war",
> Professor. Small-dicked and only tough enough to take his anger out on
> dogs, old men, and kids. Good luck with that!
>
> El Jefe

If you actually knew anything about rural America, then you would know
in the dark of night a good ole boy and his pals would take of this
piece of shit if the cops hadn't gotten to him first.

[steveh99]

In article <f06afbf2-ad14-4b06-83e9-72e3e0433515
@k6g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, misfits...@aol.com says...

Do you know what they refer to as a "good ol boy" here?
Im sure others here know lol

[83LowRider]

steveh99 wrote:

>> Sorry, I voted Libertarian. Who did YOU vote for
>> little stevie?
>
> I voted for Obama..

'Nuff said.

> Next question?!

There are no others, the first one answered everything.

[FVH]

The big, Southern white dummy seriously needs a new hobby. The good thing about this is that the herd is being thinned.

Hi, Killer! Hope you enjoyed reading this post!
FVH
Good ole RMAK. Where the majority swears off "scab KISS" then
wrights a review of the new album the week it comes out. LOL!-
Professor AJ
Yes I know that and I know they gained that power under Obama's
watch.-Professor AJ on China's nukes.
This was passed in 2008 under Obama.- AJ, political guru
Wait and see. Paul is not going to name the new KISS album what Gene
was
going to call his solo boxset.-AJ, KISS "expert"
Laughter is an emotion-Professor AJ Johnson, channeling his feminine
feelings.
You wrongfully misinterpreting another post noted.-AJ, English major
I love how people like you consternate so much time and effort-
Professor AJ Johnson.
10 years ago your posts were better written and your grammar was
better than what they are now.-AJ.
Pssst. Obama has been president for 7 years and you suck at math.-AJ,
2009
LOL! I doubt imergration is reading your posts.-Speeling bea
chaump, AJ.
McCain wins 2008 Election.This is what will be printed on every
newspaper next week. Wait and see.-AJ, proving that he's an idiot.
our new commander and chief.- AJ, talking politics.
Stadiums have no walls!- AJ
*Geeks with key boards aren't intimidating.-AJ
You made a boneheaded 'observation' about Ace, and you're a fool.
That's pretty much it.- Hidell, making a brilliant point about AJ.
Twinkle Toes Stanley hadn't quite picked up that Lick It Up/
Heaven's On Fire half a ballerina dance that he does.- db
How many times can the Greed Twins milk a cow? As many times as the
sheep will let them.-db

[FVH]

In other words, these "good ole boys" are so spineless they have to do their deeds at night. Psst, try to commit a crime at night in Texas and tell us how it turns out, Internet Tough Guy.

[FVH]

Killer is stuck in his fat bubble where he and his "good ole boys" are to be feared. What he doesn't realize is they're so dumb that they'd be dealt with quickly and easily by dem "sissy city boys".

[FVH]

Stand by your fat man, TCT Puddy! LOL

[AJ]

On Jan 31, 5:02 pm, steveh99 <steve...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> In article <f06afbf2-ad14-4b06-83e9-72e3e0433515

> @k6g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, misfitskiss...@aol.com says...

> Im sure others here know lol- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Do you know that everyone knows Ohioans are stupid? Have you guys
ever thought about actually cleaning up some of your cities?
Cleveland isn't bad, but damn, the rest of the state is a mess.

[Busboy Jefe]

Dude.....he IS the right. Or at least the Teabagger segment of it,
except that unlike most of those shit stains, he actually had the
courage of his convictions...shitty as they are. They don't get to
disown him now just because of what he's done this week.

Propagate the crazy, reap the rewards..

El Jefe

[Busboy Jefe]

On Jan 31, 5:41 pm, "83LowRider" <83lowri...@nywilldo.com> wrote:

> 'Nuff said.

If you voted for a libertarian....there's no room to chirp. Just
sayin'. That party is as much a joke as any other.

El Jefe

[83LowRider]

Busboy Jefe wrote:

>> This guy needs to be beaten with a pipe until dead.
>>
>> He has nothing to do with any political argument
>> whatsoever; maybe with the exception that most
>> on the right would put him up against the death
>> penalty while many on the left would want to ban
>> pipes and explore his inner consciousness. Fuck
>> him - kill him.
>
> Dude.....he IS the right. Or at least the Teabagger segment of it,
> except that unlike most of those shit stains, he actually had the
> courage of his convictions...shitty as they are. They don't get to
> disown him now just because of what he's done this week.
>
> Propagate the crazy, reap the rewards..

Having no idea of how many TP members there are, we'll
assume it is a million or more. You're telling me that a
million or more people have the desire to kill an innocent
man, kidnap an innocent kid, and beat puppies to death.
Drama much?

[83LowRider]

Busboy Jefe wrote:

>> 'Nuff said.
>
> If you voted for a libertarian....there's no room to chirp. Just
> sayin'. That party is as much a joke as any other.

We need to get away from a two party system.
My state is hardcore 'red'.

My vote was merely a statement - if you will.
Feel free to do with yours as you wish.

[steveh99]

In article <34869ed0-1407-4aa7-8174-369b8708aba7
@r14g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>, misfits...@aol.com says...

Yet the world watches, looks to us every presidential election year.. So
much for Ohioans being stupid :D

[steveh99]

In article <keevdv$2j7$1...@dont-email.me>, 83low...@nywilldo.com says...

Fact is neither you nor anyone else here are going to know who I really
voted for.

[steveh99]

In article <a83f8415-b6d0-42cd-a8bb-563e1cb36f35
@f6g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, busbo...@gmail.com says...

You can actually throw all the names into a damn hat and blindly draw
one. Thats pretty much the way american politics works anymore..
You vote for a candidate and take your chances unless you're an idiot
that would vote for Barney the purple dinosaur because he was of a
specific party..
I will not vote for a candidate because he is of a specific party.
I was seriously looking to vote for Gary Johnson the libertarian until I
found out he is a republican running as a libertarian.

[FVH]

About fucking time you've admitted what we've all known for years, TCT Puddy.

On Thursday, January 31, 2013 7:13:20 PM UTC-6, 83LowRider wrote:
> Having no idea

[83LowRider]

steveh99 wrote:

> I will not vote for a candidate because he is of a specific party.
> I was seriously looking to vote for Gary Johnson the libertarian
> until I found out he is a republican running as a libertarian.

No, he was a libertarian running as a republican.
You've been eating that 'El Stupido' cereal again ain'tcha?

If you liked the man, what difference does it make which
'label' he was running under?

[83LowRider]

steveh99 wrote:

> Fact is neither you nor anyone else here are going to know who I
> really voted for.

But you said ---> Obama.

So you're a liar then?

[steveh99]

In article <kefnpf$qtb$1...@dont-email.me>, 83low...@nywilldo.com says...

The El Stupido cereal has the brand name of AJ

[steveh99]

In article <kefnqs$r03$1...@dont-email.me>, 83low...@nywilldo.com says...

Gotta feed the trolls sometime lol

[Busboy Jefe]

No. BUT given their anti-gubmint (ironic given their desire to
*become* the gubmint) rhetoric? They propagate this kind of shit in
the people who DO have the desire. Or who are at least momentarily
crazy enough to think they do.

What group felt a need to bring rifles n shit to rallies?

What group felt a need to talk about "second amendment remedies"?

What group has promoted the idea that America needs to be "taken
back"?

Nuff fucking said.

El Jefe

[Busboy Jefe]

I used to think getting beyond two parties was the solution.

Not so anymore. You start getting more and more parties into the mix,
and suddenly you find a party in power that only represents a
miniscule amount of the people. If we have 3, 4, 5 parties that are
viable in an election, how much of the population is truly going to be
represented by whichever one wins?

El Jefe

[Busboy Jefe]

On Jan 31, 10:05 pm, steveh99 <steve...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> In article <a83f8415-b6d0-42cd-a8bb-563e1cb36f35

> @f6g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, busboyj...@gmail.com says...

>
>
>
> > On Jan 31, 5:41 pm, "83LowRider" <83lowri...@nywilldo.com> wrote:
>
> > > 'Nuff said.
>
> > If you voted for a libertarian....there's no room to chirp. Just
> > sayin'. That party is as much a joke as any other.
>
> > El Jefe
>
> You can actually throw all the names into a damn hat and blindly draw
> one. Thats pretty much the way american politics works anymore..
> You vote for a candidate and take your chances unless you're an idiot
> that would vote for Barney the purple dinosaur because he was of a
> specific party..
> I will not vote for a candidate because he is of a specific party.
> I was seriously looking to vote for Gary Johnson the libertarian until I
> found out he is a republican running as a libertarian.

All we can do is vote for the person who we think will give us the
most of what we want to see happen. Whatever criticisms I have about
Obama, the simple fact is that I'll find more to like from him than I
would have a Romney presidency.

Every "conservative" out there who voted for Bush 2 understands this.

El Jefe

[Busboy Jefe]

It matters if one is running as a libertarian "alternative" but in
reality is just repackaging the same old GOP bullshit. And that's
what's wrong with the libertarian party as a whole.

El Jefe

[Busboy Jefe]

On Jan 31, 6:25 pm, AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com> wrote:

> Do you know that everyone knows Ohioans are stupid?

Hey, does anyone remember that time AJ got butthurt about people who
generalize the population of a specific state?

Me NEITHER!

El Jefe

[83LowRider]

Busboy Jefe wrote:

>> Having no idea of how many TP members there are, we'll
>> assume it is a million or more. You're telling me that a
>> million or more people have the desire to kill an innocent
>> man, kidnap an innocent kid, and beat puppies to death.
>> Drama much?


> No.

But you said he was a typical example. TP'ers want
to bash baby puppies and kill old people and children.

> BUT given their anti-gubmint (ironic given their desire to
> *become* the gubmint) rhetoric?

Wanting to change policy does not equal "becoming'' the gov't.

> They propagate this kind of shit in
> the people who DO have the desire. Or who are at least momentarily
> crazy enough to think they do.

Are there groups out there calling for us to pick up our guns?
I didn't get the memo... and I've seen almost nil about the TP
in the last few months. And likely to see even less of them
it seems. Oh well, they outlasted the WS occupiers by a long shot.

> What group felt a need to bring rifles n shit to rallies?

Did the gop sponsor such an event? They ARE big
supporters <overall> with 2nd amd. rights.

> What group felt a need to talk about "second amendment remedies"?

There is no remedy. You cannot remove all the guns from
this country. You cannot force <and get> the public to
register all the guns. You cannot stop a neighbor from
selling his buddy a pistol or shotgun. You cannot stop
a madman from killing. Please tell me where you see it
different.

> What group has promoted the idea that America needs to be "taken
> back"?

The KKK? The american indian? Fringe groups? Radicals?
Some on the right? A few on the left? You think there are
no dems that don't like blacks or other minorities? Really?
You don't think there are dems out there, that are NOT racist,
but still don't want to see policy set by the minorities?
You CANNOT put so many people in such small categories.

[83LowRider]

Busboy Jefe wrote:

>> If you liked the man, what difference does it make which
>> 'label' he was running under?
>
> It matters if one is running as a libertarian "alternative" but in
> reality is just repackaging the same old GOP bullshit. And that's
> what's wrong with the libertarian party as a whole.

Their stance on drugs is far too radical for the masses.
As are a few of their other views on world matters.

Johnson wasn't typical of the GOP by any means.
Ron Paul could have run as an independent as well,
seeing as some of his views were certainly off the gop
radar.

Paul and (at first) Johnson ran on the GOP ticket
because they knew that their ONLY shot at winning
the White House comes from either running as a
dem or a republican.

A run on a third party ticket gets you nothing but
a little notoriety.

[83LowRider]

Busboy Jefe wrote:

> I used to think getting beyond two parties was the solution.
>
> Not so anymore. You start getting more and more parties into the mix,
> and suddenly you find a party in power that only represents a
> miniscule amount of the people. If we have 3, 4, 5 parties that are
> viable in an election, how much of the population is truly going to be
> represented by whichever one wins?

There aren't a whole lotta people feelin' represented the
last 20 years. That is to be expected when 50% of our
lawmakers are millionaires compared to 1% of our population.

Having more choice is rarely a bad thing.
What does it matter if there are 5 or 50 candidates
as long as one has majority vote?

http://www.politics1.com/p2012.htm

[AJ]

On Jan 31, 9:54 pm, steveh99 <steve...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> In article <34869ed0-1407-4aa7-8174-369b8708aba7
> @r14g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>, misfitskiss...@aol.com says...

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 31, 5:02 pm, steveh99 <steve...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> > > In article <f06afbf2-ad14-4b06-83e9-72e3e0433515
> > > @k6g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, misfitskiss...@aol.com says...
>

> much for Ohioans being stupid :D- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

You voted for Obama. Nuff said.

[FVH]

You're fat and gay. Nuff said.

[Busboy Jefe]

On Feb 1, 5:39 am, "83LowRider" <83lowri...@nywilldo.com> wrote:

> But you said he was a typical example. TP'ers want
> to bash baby puppies and kill old people and children.

You mean the part where I said he's part of the Teabagger hive mind,
but *unlike most of them* actually has the courage of his convictions?

I suppose you could twist that around to fit your attempt at a point
here...but you'd still be wrong.

> Wanting to change policy does not equal "becoming'' the gov't.

The Teabaggers have been bankrolled by the same people who have
control over the GOP. They're puppets, nothing more. Grassroots
movements, my ass.

> Are there groups out there calling for us to pick up our guns?
> I didn't get the memo... and I've seen almost nil about the TP
> in the last few months. And likely to see even less of them
> it seems. Oh well, they outlasted the WS occupiers by a long shot.

Being bankrolled by the rich tends to give you a longer shelf life...

> > What group felt a need to bring rifles n shit to rallies?
>
> Did the gop sponsor such an event? They ARE big
> supporters <overall> with 2nd amd. rights.
>
> > What group felt a need to talk about "second amendment remedies"?
>
> There is no remedy. You cannot remove all the guns from
> this country. You cannot force <and get> the public to
> register all the guns. You cannot stop a neighbor from
> selling his buddy a pistol or shotgun. You cannot stop
> a madman from killing. Please tell me where you see it
> different.
>
> > What group has promoted the idea that America needs to be "taken
> > back"?
>
> The KKK? The american indian? Fringe groups? Radicals?
> Some on the right? A few on the left? You think there are
> no dems that don't like blacks or other minorities? Really?
> You don't think there are dems out there, that are NOT racist,
> but still don't want to see policy set by the minorities?

*sigh* I expected this dance. "Take the country back" was the rallying
cry of your beloved Teabaggers, and you damn well know it.

> You CANNOT put so many people in such small categories.

Ban pipes? Explore inner consciousness? you make generalized comments
about libs/those who lean left constantly. If you're going to paint
with as broad brush yourself, don't lecture others about doing it.

El Jefe

[83LowRider]

Busboy Jefe wrote:

>> But you said he was a typical example. TP'ers want
>> to bash baby puppies and kill old people and children.
>
> You mean the part where I said he's part of the Teabagger hive mind,
> but *unlike most of them* actually has the courage of his convictions?
>
> I suppose you could twist that around to fit your attempt at a point
> here...but you'd still be wrong.

My misunderstanding.... you are saying the TP people usually
only THINK and DESIRE to do such a thing, without any
follow-thru. Gotcha.

>> Wanting to change policy does not equal "becoming'' the gov't.
>
> The Teabaggers have been bankrolled by the same people who have
> control over the GOP. They're puppets, nothing more. Grassroots
> movements, my ass.

Any large movement usually requires a large financial backing.
That says nothing of the average member.

>> Are there groups out there calling for us to pick up our guns?
>> I didn't get the memo... and I've seen almost nil about the TP
>> in the last few months. And likely to see even less of them
>> it seems. Oh well, they outlasted the WS occupiers by a long shot.
>
> Being bankrolled by the rich tends to give you a longer shelf life...

LOL!!! The OWS movement had months worth of free press,
many celebs stating how noble their cause was. They
were nothing more than a fart in a whirlwind.

>>> What group felt a need to bring rifles n shit to rallies?
>>
>> Did the gop sponsor such an event? They ARE big
>> supporters <overall> with 2nd amd. rights.
>>
>>> What group felt a need to talk about "second amendment remedies"?
>>
>> There is no remedy. You cannot remove all the guns from
>> this country. You cannot force <and get> the public to
>> register all the guns. You cannot stop a neighbor from
>> selling his buddy a pistol or shotgun. You cannot stop
>> a madman from killing. Please tell me where you see it
>> different.
>>
>>> What group has promoted the idea that America needs to be "taken
>>> back"?
>>
>> The KKK? The american indian? Fringe groups? Radicals?
>> Some on the right? A few on the left? You think there are
>> no dems that don't like blacks or other minorities? Really?
>> You don't think there are dems out there, that are NOT racist,
>> but still don't want to see policy set by the minorities?
>
> *sigh* I expected this dance. "Take the country back" was the rallying
> cry of your beloved Teabaggers, and you damn well know it.

So? Is that any different than a gay group calling to "push
this country forward"? Is that any different than PParenthood
claiming gop'ers want to push us back to the stoneage? Every
group has a slogan, an agenda.

>> You CANNOT put so many people in such small categories.
>
> Ban pipes? Explore inner consciousness? you make generalized comments
> about libs/those who lean left constantly. If you're going to paint
> with as broad brush yourself, don't lecture others about doing it.

I was trying to imply that you cannot put all gop in a single
basket nor can you do the same with the dems. There are
surely PLENTY of dems somewhere that think the financial
cliff will be our downfall, just as plenty of dems are against
any stringent gun control.

[Busboy Jefe]

On Feb 1, 6:05 pm, "83LowRider" <83lowri...@nywilldo.com> wrote:

> My misunderstanding.... you are saying the TP people usually
> only THINK and DESIRE to do such a thing, without any
> follow-thru. Gotcha.

It certainly appears that they're obsessed about "taking the country
back" and using arms to do it. Was that all just for show then? Palin
and Angle didn't know exactly what they were doing when they evoked
such imagery?

Can't speak about animal abuse, but there's at least one case of a guy
who molested his daughter. Does that count? =P

> Any large movement usually requires a large financial backing.
> That says nothing of the average member.

But we were to believe that this was entirely grassroots, were we not?

> LOL!!! The OWS movement had months worth of free press,
> many celebs stating how noble their cause was. They
> were nothing more than a fart in a whirlwind.

The Teabaggers DIDN'T have press and celebrity backers? Hell, a
"celebrity" is all Palin was at that point, and they made her their
queen. They had an entire "news" network tonguing their ballsacks. And
despite all that financial backing...what have they done besides make
themselves look like fools? They tore the GOP apart from the inside.
Think Boehner doesn't regret getting into bed with them?

El Jefe

[steveh99]

In article <3e6a52d7-46a6-46f5-bf42-0deb2c079c27
@h2g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, busbo...@gmail.com says...

I honestly try and vote for the person I think will try and work for all
the people and not just for one specific groups agendas

[steveh99]

In article <8c225a67-b32c-4be5-967b-3a4a6f3722d0
@l9g2000yqp.googlegroups.com>, busbo...@gmail.com says...

Yep and Gary Johnson was pretty much doing what pukehead Lieberman did
in 2006.. Lieberman changed parties and ran as an independent in Nov 06
for his senate seat

[steveh99]

In article <968b4d7c-ef81-425d-83c7-400edf804918
@u7g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>, misfits...@aol.com says...

Who I voted for is irrelevant to this conversation

[83LowRider]

Busboy Jefe wrote:

>> My misunderstanding.... you are saying the TP people usually
>> only THINK and DESIRE to do such a thing, without any
>> follow-thru. Gotcha.
>
> It certainly appears that they're obsessed about "taking the country
> back" and using arms to do it.

Again, I've seen no call to arms. Matter of fact, I've seen
no "anything"... nothing from the TP, no flyers on my
windshields, no news on the tv of any armed groups
being busted while plotting to overthrow the gov't.

> Was that all just for show then? Palin and Angle didn't know
> exactly what they were doing when they evoked
> such imagery?

Palin? Are we still talking about her and her mighty blog?
Her 15 mintues are waaaay over. And did you not see
an equal number of 'imageries' from both sides?

> Can't speak about animal abuse, but there's at least one case of a guy
> who molested his daughter. Does that count? =P

I don't know... was she hot? adopted? step-daughter?

>> Any large movement usually requires a large financial backing.
>> That says nothing of the average member.
>
> But we were to believe that this was entirely grassroots, were we not?

When I hear 'grassroots' the imagery is more of a bunch
of 'ordinary' citizens. Not a bunch of rich people, not a
bunch of radicals or lowlevels. Do you really believe
more gov't (as opposed to less) is our answer?

>> LOL!!! The OWS movement had months worth of free press,
>> many celebs stating how noble their cause was. They
>> were nothing more than a fart in a whirlwind.
>
> The Teabaggers DIDN'T have press and celebrity backers? Hell, a
> "celebrity" is all Palin

Palin again? Really? You want to put her on the level of
a Bono even a Michael Moore type? Who the fuck was
'hearing' Palin other than her diehard fans? OWS had
about two months of hardcore media attention, from ALL
the media outlets.

> was at that point, and they made her their
> queen. They had an entire "news" network tonguing their ballsacks. And
> despite all that financial backing...what have they done besides make
> themselves look like fools? They tore the GOP apart from the inside.
> Think Boehner doesn't regret getting into bed with them?

The TP and OWS ---- one actually had a little power, got quite
a few people actually put into positions of power. Then there
was OWS. <snicker>

[AJ]

On Feb 1, 8:47 pm, steveh99 <steve...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> In article <968b4d7c-ef81-425d-83c7-400edf804918
> @u7g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>, misfitskiss...@aol.com says...

> Who I voted for is irrelevant to this conversation- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Do you honestly think Ohio knows what's best for the entire country?
if so, then here's another example of why we're fucked right now.

[Busboy Jefe]

On Feb 2, 5:56 am, "83LowRider" <83lowri...@nywilldo.com> wrote:

> Palin? Are we still talking about her and her mighty blog?
> Her 15 mintues are waaaay over.

Why not? You still bring up Ayers and Wright.

> When I hear 'grassroots' the imagery is more of a bunch
> of 'ordinary' citizens. Not a bunch of rich people, not a
> bunch of radicals or lowlevels.

Then you concur that despite the meme, the Teabaggers were in no way
"grassroots". You get a cookie.

> Do you really believe
> more gov't (as opposed to less) is our answer?

I believe that fixing what doesn't work in gov is the best answer.

> Palin again? Really? You want to put her on the level of
> a Bono even a Michael Moore type?

She WAS on that level for the troglodytes she appealed to.

And yeah, Palin again. Because, you know, we're talking about the
supposed "star power" behind two movements? Is Bono on TV every day
spewing shit? Did MSNBC set him up with a studio in his house and a
nice fat contract? Did he actually run for office? Who was truly the
bigger "star" as far as the two movements went?

> The TP and OWS ---- one actually had a little power, got quite
> a few people actually put into positions of power. Then there
> was OWS.   <snicker>

Last I checked, OWS wasn't looking to PUT people into "power".

And how did that "power" work out for the Teabaggers? Before most of
them got bitchslapped this last election, that is? *snort*

El Jefe

[Busboy Jefe]

On Feb 2, 9:26 am, AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com> wrote:

> Do you honestly think Ohio knows what's best for the entire country?

Does Virginia?

El Jefe

[FVH]

You don't know what's best for OUR country, ya BIG Southern dummy.

[83LowRider]

Busboy Jefe wrote:

>> Palin? Are we still talking about her and her mighty blog?
>> Her 15 mintues are waaaay over.
>
> Why not? You still bring up Ayers and Wright.

Tell you what, you find just when the last time I
brought up either. And how often I have done so.
Wright had a 20+ year relationship with Obama.
You wanna tell me what kind of relationship Palin
had to Romney?

>> When I hear 'grassroots' the imagery is more of a bunch
>> of 'ordinary' citizens. Not a bunch of rich people, not a
>> bunch of radicals or lowlevels.
>
> Then you concur that despite the meme, the Teabaggers were in no way
> "grassroots". You get a cookie.

I'll take yours since you failed to earn it.
Tell me how the majority of TP members are either rich,
radical or anything other than a 'normal' American.

>> Do you really believe
>> more gov't (as opposed to less) is our answer?
>
> I believe that fixing what doesn't work in gov is the best answer.

A non-answer. Waste in our gov't totals billions <if not more>
a year.

>> Palin again? Really? You want to put her on the level of
>> a Bono even a Michael Moore type?
>
> She WAS on that level for the troglodytes she appealed to.
>
> And yeah, Palin again. Because, you know, we're talking about the
> supposed "star power" behind two movements? Is Bono on TV every day
> spewing shit? Did MSNBC set him up with a studio in his house and a
> nice fat contract? Did he actually run for office? Who was truly the
> bigger "star" as far as the two movements went?

The audience for Palin consisted of a handful of those on
the right. The audience given OWS was mega-millions,
every single day for a month or more. It reached across
all lines -- political, social, income, etc. It garned major
press in every media outlet.

>> The TP and OWS ---- one actually had a little power, got quite
>> a few people actually put into positions of power. Then there
>> was OWS. <snicker>
>
> Last I checked, OWS wasn't looking to PUT people into "power".

A bit over 100 candidates -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Tea_Party_politicians

Now show me where OWS accomplished ANYTHING.

> And how did that "power" work out for the Teabaggers? Before most of
> them got bitchslapped this last election, that is? *snort*

That is of no matter. We were speaking of what was gained
from the two 'movements'. If the TP has fallen out of favor, so
be it. OWS never found any support anywhere near that caliber.
How about this -- you show me anything gained from the OWS
people, compare it to the 100 elected officials of the TP, then in
a couple years, tell me how many of each still hold an office.

[Busboy Jefe]

On Feb 3, 3:53 am, "83LowRider" <83lowri...@nywilldo.com> wrote:

> Tell you what, you find just when the last time I
> brought up either. And how often I have done so.
> Wright had a 20+ year relationship with Obama.
> You wanna tell me what kind of relationship Palin
> had to Romney?

Ir-fucking-relevant what relationship she had to Romney. We were
talking about the star power behind two movements. Palin was the
Teabagger queen for quite awhile. The Teabaggers were no fan of
Romney. Your attempt to blend these topics is, as your acolyte would
say, "moot".

> I'll take yours since you failed to earn it.
> Tell me how the majority of TP members are either rich,
> radical or anything other than a 'normal' American.

They AREN'T. In fact, they're likely poor/barely middle class and
fucking dumb. Which is what makes their "grassroots movement" being
bankrolled by rich fucks like the Koch Bros. so damned hilarious.

Damn dude, did you take a stupid pill before posting this, or what?

> A non-answer. Waste in our gov't totals billions <if not more>
> a year.

And how much of that waste goes to defense, which is something your
supposed fiscal conservatives will never touch?

> The audience for Palin consisted of a handful of those on
> the right. The audience given OWS was mega-millions,
> every single day for a month or more. It reached across
> all lines -- political, social, income, etc. It garned major
> press in every media outlet.

THIS, my friend, is some massive revisionist history...and you owe me
a fucking topshelf gin and tonic given that I just spewed mine all
over my keyboard.

Please. Can you name ONE Occupy member who got a fat contract from a
"news" station to appear regularly on the air? And a studio built in
their home for just that purpose? Is there an Occupy member who
"energized" a presidential candidate's campaign and got to write books
about it? Got a reality show out of it? Has a Facebook/Twitter
following as a result?

Hell, you're claiming one moment that OWS was a fart in the wind, and
then in another that they had the same media traction as Palin?

LOL

> >> The TP and OWS ---- one actually had a little power, got quite
> >> a few people actually put into positions of power. Then there
> >> was OWS. <snicker>
>
> > Last I checked, OWS wasn't looking to PUT people into "power".
>

> A bit over 100 candidates -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Tea_Party_politicians

>
> Now show me where OWS accomplished ANYTHING.
>
> > And how did that "power" work out for the Teabaggers? Before most of
> > them got bitchslapped this last election, that is? *snort*
>
> That is of no matter. We were speaking of what was gained
> from the two 'movements'. If the TP has fallen out of favor, so
> be it. OWS never found any support anywhere near that caliber.
> How about this -- you show me anything gained from the OWS
> people, compare it to the 100 elected officials of the TP, then in
> a couple years, tell me how many of each still hold an office.

OWS was not looking to put people into political office. And given
that our media is corporate owned, they were never going to get a fair
shot in any debate.

The comparison is moot.

Try again.

El Jefe

[83LowRider]

Busboy Jefe wrote:

>> Tell you what, you find just when the last time I
>> brought up either. And how often I have done so.
>> Wright had a 20+ year relationship with Obama.
>> You wanna tell me what kind of relationship Palin
>> had to Romney?

> Ir-fucking-relevant what relationship she had to Romney. We were
> talking about the star power behind two movements.

Not exactly. There is a direct link when speaking of
Obama (sitting president) and Ayers or Wright (years
of direct connection).

Romney (holding no office) had no such connection
to Palin (who likewise held no office). No one is going
to say that Palin had no "star power". But however much
she had, it was a VERY limited segment and the rest
probably hated her. That is not the same as a 'real'
celebrity. That is not the same kind of exposure as
what OWS received on EVERY channel, on every paper
and website.

> Palin was the
> Teabagger queen for quite awhile. The Teabaggers were no fan of
> Romney. Your attempt to blend these topics is, as your acolyte would
> say, "moot".

Not trying to blend anything, and don't really know
where/how it strayed.

>> I'll take yours since you failed to earn it.
>> Tell me how the majority of TP members are either rich,
>> radical or anything other than a 'normal' American.
>
> They AREN'T. In fact, they're likely poor/barely middle class and
> fucking dumb. Which is what makes their "grassroots movement" being
> bankrolled by rich fucks like the Koch Bros. so damned hilarious.

Whaaaaaaat? Do you think there's somekinda sOOper-sekret
bank account feeding the million plus supporters of the TP?
Really dude? Say there's a million people that go out and
say ---> I LOVE THE FUCKING TEA PARTY!!!

How are these people NOT AVERAGE? Isn't the average
fucking american nowadays INDEED poor to barely
middle class? Isn't the fucking average american of medium
intelligence? Studies I've seen of the average TP member
says they're overall at or slightly above average everything.

"CNN statistics declaring they are predominantly male,
more college educated and higher earners than the
general population at large, but not necessarily older
or just from the South"

and then there's --

"Alas for stereotypes, they're convenient, often catchy.
But not necessarily true.

Now, comes a pair of polls, including Gallup, that paint
a revealing detailed portrait of Tea Party supporters in
most ways as pretty average Americans. A Sunday poll --
actually three national phone surveys of 1,000 registered
voters -- found that 17% of all polled, or more than 500,
called themselves "part of the Tea Party movement."

"It's a good sample size," David Winston, polling director
of the Winston Group that did the poll for an education
advocacy group, told the Ballot Box blog of The Hill newspaper.

The Tea Party adherents broke down 28% independent, 17%
Democrat and only 57% Republican."

and --

"A new Gallup Poll out this morning of 1,033 finds nothing
fringe about self-proclaimed Tea Party adherents; they are
slightly more likely to be employed, male and definitely
more conservative. But otherwise Gallup's Lydia Saad writes,
"their age, educational background, employment status, and
race -- Tea Partiers are quite representative of the public
at large."


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2010/04/tea-party-obama.html

> Damn dude, did you take a stupid pill before posting this, or what?

Yes, it's a requirement for me to enter RMAK more often
than not.

>> A non-answer. Waste in our gov't totals billions <if not more>
>> a year.
>
> And how much of that waste goes to defense, which is something your
> supposed fiscal conservatives will never touch?

Defense has been cut pretty hard. It's credited for being the
cause of the rise from 7.8 to 7.9 unemployment according
to a Reuters story I read a couple days ago.

>> The audience for Palin consisted of a handful of those on
>> the right. The audience given OWS was mega-millions,
>> every single day for a month or more. It reached across
>> all lines -- political, social, income, etc. It garned major
>> press in every media outlet.
>
> THIS, my friend, is some massive revisionist history...and you owe me
> a fucking topshelf gin and tonic given that I just spewed mine all
> over my keyboard.
>
> Please. Can you name ONE Occupy member who got a fat contract from a
> "news" station to appear regularly on the air? And a studio built in
> their home for just that purpose? Is there an Occupy member who
> "energized" a presidential candidate's campaign and got to write books
> about it? Got a reality show out of it? Has a Facebook/Twitter
> following as a result?
>
> Hell, you're claiming one moment that OWS was a fart in the wind, and
> then in another that they had the same media traction as Palin?
>
> LOL

I'll forward you a few of those smart pills as you
obviously didn't get the message. This IS NOT
about who got some kind of contract on FOX.
FOX viewers are hard conservatives. FOX/Palin
do NOT reach out to the masses of people that don't
even watch the fucking news. Which is the majority
of people obviously. If you wanted to follow Palin
you were rabid conservative already, and you
followed her blog or her rare FOX appearance. That
is TOTALLY different than turning to any station/website
or picking up any paper -- and being bombarded with OWS
for months.

> OWS was not looking to put people into political office. And given
> that our media is corporate owned, they were never going to get a fair
> shot in any debate.
>
> The comparison is moot.

Nope, the entire comparison was about what kind of
lasting affect one had vs the other.

[AJ]

> El Jefe- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Bitch, whine, and cry all you want. Obama's friends are fucking
looney losers and Palin's friends are real Americans that work for a
living. Guess which one's you and other liberals belittle every
week?

[AJ]

Yes. We started this country. Created the military we have now.
Hell, we actually had the first American born here. Over 90% of all
the buildings and homes were at one time built from lumber taken from
our mountains. Our coal fuels about half of this nation now. So
yeah. What's Vegas gave us besides two fags in sequins pulling
rabbits out of their asses and getting their face bitten off by a
tiger?

[FVH]

This is one of those posts that doesn't need commentary from us trolls. It speaks for itself.

[FVH]

On Monday, February 4, 2013 10:49:02 AM UTC-6, AJ wrote:
> Yes. We started this country.

No you didn't.

> Created the military we have now.

No you didn't.

> Hell, we actually had the first American born here.

No you didn't.

> Over 90% of all the buildings and homes were at one time built from lumber taken from our mountains.

"At one time". When you get into the 21st Century, perhaps you'd be less stupid. Perhaps.

> Our coal fuels about half of this nation now.

No it doesn't.

> So yeah. What's Vegas gave us besides two fags in sequins pulling rabbits out of their asses and getting their face bitten off by a tiger?

You wear makeup to concerts AND thought you "share a moment" with another man. What were you saying about "fags", fag face?

[Busboy Jefe]

On Feb 4, 5:06 am, "83LowRider" <83lowri...@nywilldo.com> wrote:

> Not exactly. There is a direct link when speaking of
> Obama (sitting president) and Ayers or Wright (years
> of direct connection).
>
> Romney (holding no office) had no such connection
> to Palin (who likewise held no office). No one is going
> to say that Palin had no "star power". But however much
> she had, it was a VERY limited segment and the rest
> probably hated her. That is not the same as a 'real'
> celebrity. That is not the same kind of exposure as
> what OWS received on EVERY channel, on every paper
> and website.

Well, that's funny. Because what I recall re: press coverage of OWS,
was that it was a bunch of ignorant, lazy, greedy millennials who
wanted something for nothing.

Meanwhile, Palin had an entire "news" network behind her. A reality
show. Book contracts. Speaking engagements (*snort*).

AND we all know that hatred translates into attention as well. Whether
Palin was being fellated by Bill Krystol or Glenn Beck, or vilified by
Olbermann, her name was out there.

Now tell me ONE OWS name who enjoyed the same branding and popularity.

> Whaaaaaaat? Do you think there's somekinda sOOper-sekret
> bank account feeding the million plus supporters of the TP?
> Really dude? Say there's a million people that go out and
> say ---> I LOVE THE FUCKING TEA PARTY!!!

It's no secret who funds "the movement". Murdoch. The Koch Bros. Or,
at least, they did. Perhaps they've moved on, now that the Teabaggers
are about as appealing as gonorrhea...

> How are these people NOT AVERAGE? Isn't the average
> fucking american nowadays INDEED poor to barely
> middle class? Isn't the fucking average american of medium
> intelligence? Studies I've seen of the average TP member
> says they're overall at or slightly above average everything.

As I've said before, the "followers" very likely are average. And
dumb. Ignorant, if you prefer a kinder term. I've heard them speak.
I've heard them debate.

Dumb. Ignorant.

They do not even realize who's bankrolling them.

> Yes, it's a requirement for me to enter RMAK more often
> than not.

Indeed.

> Defense has been cut pretty hard. It's credited for being the
> cause of the rise from 7.8 to 7.9 unemployment according
> to a Reuters story I read a couple days ago.

Defense has in no way been cut "pretty hard". Not when considering
what a black hole it is in terms of spending. And that's not even
including the shit that doesn't get specified under "defense"
spending....

> I'll forward you a few of those smart pills as you
> obviously didn't get the message. This IS NOT
> about who got some kind of contract on FOX.
> FOX viewers are hard conservatives. FOX/Palin
> do NOT reach out to the masses of people that don't
> even watch the fucking news. Which is the majority
> of people obviously. If you wanted to follow Palin
> you were rabid conservative already, and you
> followed her blog or her rare FOX appearance. That
> is TOTALLY different than turning to any station/website
> or picking up any paper -- and being bombarded with OWS
> for months.

No real conservative looks at Fox with anything other than derision.

And I find your view that OWS coverage in any way superseded that of
Palin laughable.

> Nope, the entire comparison was about what kind of
> lasting affect one had vs the other.

OWS isn't dead. But they do not enjoy the coverage our corporate media
lavishes on others. Gee...I wonder why that is?

Again, I'll ask: what lasting effect have the Teabaggers had? What
have they accomplished other than internal strife within the GOP? Can
you name one piece of Teabagger legislation that's passed with great
positive effect? ANY positive effect? Hell, ANY effect at all?

Anything? What good is "power" if the resulting effect is that of a
perpetually limp dick?

El Jefe

[Busboy Jefe]

So why do you rely on those "librul" states to fucking survive now?
Why accept that "socialist" stimulus money?

And why do you visit Vegas if all you see here are two fags in
sequins?

Oh...never mind about the third question. The answer's pretty
obvious....

El Jefe

[Busboy Jefe]

On Feb 4, 4:23 pm, FVH <jarjo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is one of those posts that doesn't need commentary from us trolls. It speaks for itself.

Indeed. Palin gave oil checks to Alaskans, BUT...they don't want no
evil gubmint in their lives. They WORK for a living!

El Jefe

[steveh99]

In article <3e7f3ff1-c1ab-4b09-b263-0559284e29c1
@h9g2000vbk.googlegroups.com>, busbo...@gmail.com says...
>
> On Feb 4, 10:49ï¿œam, AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com> wrote:
> > On Feb 2, 1:26ï¿œpm, Busboy Jefe <busboyj...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >
> > > On Feb 2, 9:26ï¿œam, AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > Do you honestly think Ohio knows what's best for the entire country?
> >
> > > Does Virginia?
> >
> > > El Jefe
> >

> > Yes. ï¿œWe started this country. ï¿œCreated the military we have now.

> > Hell, we actually had the first American born here. Over 90% of all
> > the buildings and homes were at one time built from lumber taken from

> > our mountains. ï¿œOur coal fuels about half of this nation now. ï¿œSo
> > yeah. ï¿œWhat's Vegas gave us besides two fags in sequins pulling

> > rabbits out of their asses and getting their face bitten off by a
> > tiger?
>
> So why do you rely on those "librul" states to fucking survive now?
> Why accept that "socialist" stimulus money?
>
> And why do you visit Vegas if all you see here are two fags in
> sequins?
>
> Oh...never mind about the third question. The answer's pretty
> obvious....
>
> El Jefe

AJ was wrong about the first american being born in Virginia. That honor
goes to Virginia Dare in Roanoke Colony in North Carolina August 18,
1587

[steveh99]

In article <946fcd02-9a6f-4ed4-9f00-
dfd6dc...@d11g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>, misfits...@aol.com
says...
>
> On Feb 2, 1:26ï¿œpm, Busboy Jefe <busboyj...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > On Feb 2, 9:26ï¿œam, AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Do you honestly think Ohio knows what's best for the entire country?
> >
> > Does Virginia?
> >
> > El Jefe
>
> Yes. We started this country. Created the military we have now.
> Hell, we actually had the first American born here. Over 90% of all
> the buildings and homes were at one time built from lumber taken from
> our mountains. Our coal fuels about half of this nation now. So
> yeah. What's Vegas gave us besides two fags in sequins pulling
> rabbits out of their asses and getting their face bitten off by a
> tiger?

You are inaccurate as always!
The first born american colonist was born in Roanoke Colony which is
present day North Carolina.

[Busboy Jefe]

On Feb 5, 1:44 am, steveh99 <steve...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> In article <3e7f3ff1-c1ab-4b09-b263-0559284e29c1

> @h9g2000vbk.googlegroups.com>, busboyj...@gmail.com says...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 4, 10:49 am, AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > On Feb 2, 1:26 pm, Busboy Jefe <busboyj...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> > > > On Feb 2, 9:26 am, AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Do you honestly think Ohio knows what's best for the entire country?
>
> > > > Does Virginia?
>
> > > > El Jefe
>

> > > Yes.  We started this country.  Created the military we have now.

> > > Hell, we actually had the first American born here. Over 90% of all
> > > the buildings and homes were at one time built from lumber taken from

> > > our mountains.  Our coal fuels about half of this nation now.  So
> > > yeah.  What's Vegas gave us besides two fags in sequins pulling

> > > rabbits out of their asses and getting their face bitten off by a
> > > tiger?
>
> > So why do you rely on those "librul" states to fucking survive now?
> > Why accept that "socialist" stimulus money?
>
> > And why do you visit Vegas if all you see here are two fags in
> > sequins?
>
> > Oh...never mind about the third question. The answer's pretty
> > obvious....
>
> > El Jefe
>
> AJ was wrong about the first american being born in Virginia. That honor
> goes to Virginia Dare in Roanoke Colony in North Carolina  August 18,
> 1587

Shocking that The Professor would have history wrong, huh? But since
her name was Virginia, you can see how a dummy like him would be
confused....

El Jefe

[83LowRider]

Busboy Jefe wrote:

> Well, that's funny. Because what I recall re: press coverage of OWS,
> was that it was a bunch of ignorant, lazy, greedy millennials who
> wanted something for nothing.

We obviously saw different press then. The mass media
did NOT portray the protestors in that way.

> Meanwhile, Palin had an entire "news" network behind her. A reality
> show. Book contracts. Speaking engagements (*snort*).
>
> AND we all know that hatred translates into attention as well. Whether
> Palin was being fellated by Bill Krystol or Glenn Beck, or vilified by
> Olbermann, her name was out there.

All catering to the same select group/segment.

> Now tell me ONE OWS name who enjoyed the same branding and popularity.

There are at least dozens more, this is a list of the richest.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2011/10/13/top-ten-richest-celebrities-supporting-occupy-wall-street/

Hey, Nancy Pelosi even made the list!!!

>> Whaaaaaaat? Do you think there's somekinda sOOper-sekret
>> bank account feeding the million plus supporters of the TP?
>> Really dude? Say there's a million people that go out and
>> say ---> I LOVE THE FUCKING TEA PARTY!!!
>
> It's no secret who funds "the movement". Murdoch. The Koch Bros. Or,
> at least, they did. Perhaps they've moved on, now that the Teabaggers
> are about as appealing as gonorrhea...

And just WHERE do you see all this money at today?
I see no commercials, no anything from the TP.
What is there to fund? Did they run expensive commercials
during the election? I never saw a TP ad. Did Koch or
Murdoch likely give money to some of those running?
Certainly! No different than a Soros or any other large
donors. Certainly no shortage of them on either side.

>> How are these people NOT AVERAGE? Isn't the average
>> fucking american nowadays INDEED poor to barely
>> middle class? Isn't the fucking average american of medium
>> intelligence? Studies I've seen of the average TP member
>> says they're overall at or slightly above average everything.
>
> As I've said before, the "followers" very likely are average. And
> dumb. Ignorant, if you prefer a kinder term. I've heard them speak.
> I've heard them debate.
>
> Dumb. Ignorant.

Your opinion.

> They do not even realize who's bankrolling them.

WTF? Do you think some woman <who likes the TP> is
getting 'bankrolled'? Is she getting a little cash under the
table? Silliness.

>> Yes, it's a requirement for me to enter RMAK more often
>> than not.
>
> Indeed.
>
>> Defense has been cut pretty hard. It's credited for being the
>> cause of the rise from 7.8 to 7.9 unemployment according
>> to a Reuters story I read a couple days ago.
>
> Defense has in no way been cut "pretty hard". Not when considering
> what a black hole it is in terms of spending. And that's not even
> including the shit that doesn't get specified under "defense"
> spending....

Feb. 1st

"The government said this week that the economy shrank
last quarter for the first time since the recession, but the
setback was mostly due to big defense cuts and slower
product stockpiling by businesses."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2013/02/01/january-jobs-report/1881037/

Another 500 billion was due to kick in now, but congress
just delayed it for two more months.

And I've never once argued that defense couldn't be cut.
Quite to the contrary, I've said EVERY SINGLE DEPT.
should face at least a 10% budget cut, as well as 10%
of ALL gov't employees.

>> I'll forward you a few of those smart pills as you
>> obviously didn't get the message. This IS NOT
>> about who got some kind of contract on FOX.
>> FOX viewers are hard conservatives. FOX/Palin
>> do NOT reach out to the masses of people that don't
>> even watch the fucking news. Which is the majority
>> of people obviously. If you wanted to follow Palin
>> you were rabid conservative already, and you
>> followed her blog or her rare FOX appearance. That
>> is TOTALLY different than turning to any station/website
>> or picking up any paper -- and being bombarded with OWS
>> for months.
>
> No real conservative looks at Fox with anything other than derision.

Which says/does nothing to dispute my point above.

> And I find your view that OWS coverage in any way superseded that of
> Palin laughable.

It ain't laughable, it's a FACT! OWS had non-stop coverage
for two months... every media outlet there is.

>> Nope, the entire comparison was about what kind of
>> lasting affect one had vs the other.
>
> OWS isn't dead.

Yes they are. All you see remaining is a ghost.

> But they do not enjoy the coverage our corporate media
> lavishes on others. Gee...I wonder why that is?

Because it was the stupidest 'protest' ever. It had
no solid agenda, no organization and no one to take
the lead. It no virtually no attainable goals.

> Again, I'll ask: what lasting effect have the Teabaggers had? What
> have they accomplished other than internal strife within the GOP? Can
> you name one piece of Teabagger legislation that's passed with great
> positive effect? ANY positive effect? Hell, ANY effect at all?

I don't know what long term good or bad they've done.
The fact that 100 of them were elected says a shitload tho.
That is 100 people that are able to write or influence policy.
Wasn't that the entire goal?

> Anything? What good is "power" if the resulting effect is that of a
> perpetually limp dick?

Point'em out and spell out what you don't like. Your statement
is way to vague to give it any merit.

[83LowRider]

Busboy Jefe wrote:

>> AJ was wrong about the first american being born in Virginia. That
>> honor goes to Virginia Dare in Roanoke Colony in North Carolina
>> August 18, 1587
>
> Shocking that The Professor would have history wrong, huh? But since
> her name was Virginia, you can see how a dummy like him would be
> confused....

Roanoke is also <I think> the largest area in VA.
Didn't even know there was a Roanoke NC.

No matter... steven the stupid is <always> wrong.
How the fuck is an american gonna be born in 1587
when there WAS NO FUCKING AMERICA until I dunno,
maybe almost TWO HUNDRED FUCKING YEARS later?

[83LowRider]

Oil checks to Alaskans is not the same category as
'aid'. It was deemed that the Alaskan resources
should be divided among the citizens. This is done
in many arabic areas as well.

[mss]

83LowRider<83low...@nywilldo.com> wrote:

> No matter... steven the stupid is <always> wrong.
> How the fuck is an american gonna be born in 1587
> when there WAS NO FUCKING AMERICA until I dunno,
> maybe almost TWO HUNDRED FUCKING YEARS later?

No, he was likely refereing to the *pre-exsisting* continent...
America is only the name the explorersr/colonists bestowed upon
what was already here 83...

google: Amerigo Vespucci

--
later on,
Mike

[83LowRider]

mss wrote:

>> No matter... steven the stupid is <always> wrong.
>> How the fuck is an american gonna be born in 1587
>> when there WAS NO FUCKING AMERICA until I dunno,
>> maybe almost TWO HUNDRED FUCKING YEARS later?
>
> No, he was likely refereing to the *pre-exsisting* continent...
> America is only the name the explorersr/colonists bestowed upon
> what was already here 83...

Sorry ms, but he gets no pass from me.

"first american being born in Virginia"

There was neither a Virginia nor any "Americans"
in 1587.

> google: Amerigo Vespucci

No need. His mashup of facts will not garner him a
passing grade.

[FVH]

In other words, Steve has rattled your cage to the point where you can't see straight, TCT Puddy. You HOOD RATS are so damn sensitive.

On Tuesday, February 5, 2013 3:57:08 PM UTC-6, 83LowRider wrote:
> Sorry ms, but he gets no pass from me.
>
>
>
> "first american being born in Virginia"
>
>
>
> There was neither a Virginia nor any "Americans" in 1587.

[FVH]

I bet the Professor thinks the history they teach in public schools is accurate and doesn't gloss over many major events, all in the name of the "America is perfect" fantasy bubble.

[FVH]

On Tuesday, February 5, 2013 1:32:50 AM UTC-6, Busboy Jefe wrote:
> So why do you rely on those "librul" states to fucking survive now?

Not to mention, Killer is more liberal than anyone in this NG.

> Why accept that "socialist" stimulus money?

No, no the stimulus had NOTHING to with Obama. It was Bush, who gave the stimulus money while Obama was planning his takeover of 'Merica by taking away our guns.

> And why do you visit Vegas if all you see here are two fags in sequins?

> Oh...never mind about the third question. The answer's pretty obvious....

Killer's been extra horny this week--I wonder why. Actually, I'd rather NOT know!

[AJ]

Even if it were true, given money to workers so they can work better
is bad, but giving money to lazy people that don't even bother to look
for a job or giving it to people that shouldn't even be in our country
is good? Typical liberal logic.

[AJ]

On Feb 5, 1:32 am, Busboy Jefe <busboyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So why do you rely on those "librul" states to fucking survive now?

Because we allowed lazy minorities to live here and your liberal
leader wants to feed them.

> Why accept that "socialist" stimulus money?

Because we spend it more wisely than other states and actually improve
our infrastructures.

>
> And why do you visit Vegas if all you see here are two fags in
> sequins?

Because it's fun to make fun of fags.

>
> Oh...never mind about the third question. The answer's pretty
> obvious....
>

> El Jefe- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

Yeah, sometimes planes stop in Vegas when you're trying to get to
Hawaii.

[AJ]

On Feb 5, 1:48 am, steveh99 <steve...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> In article <946fcd02-9a6f-4ed4-9f00-
> dfd6dcf3e...@d11g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>, misfitskiss...@aol.com
> says...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 2, 1:26 pm, Busboy Jefe <busboyj...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > On Feb 2, 9:26 am, AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Do you honestly think Ohio knows what's best for the entire country?
>
> > > Does Virginia?
>
> > > El Jefe
>
> > Yes.  We started this country.  Created the military we have now.
> > Hell, we actually had the first American born here. Over 90% of all
> > the buildings and homes were at one time built from lumber taken from
> > our mountains.  Our coal fuels about half of this nation now.  So
> > yeah.  What's Vegas gave us besides two fags in sequins pulling
> > rabbits out of their asses and getting their face bitten off by a
> > tiger?
>
> You are inaccurate as always!
> The first born american colonist was born in Roanoke Colony which is

> present day North Carolina.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

North Carolina didn't even exist and America wasn't even established
then. Maybe she wasn't technically born in the Sate of VA, but she
was born on my side of the country, here in the south, my state is
named after her, which also established the first town in America.

[steveh99]

In article <82767dcb-51a3-4522-8fe6-bc545209db00
@y4g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, misfits...@aol.com says...

LOL wow! Talk about hypocrisy at its finest..

[FVH]

Translation: "I don't understand what I'm trying to read, so I'll just say "liberal" and be done with it. That'll show 'em!"

[FVH]

On Wednesday, February 6, 2013 11:29:14 AM UTC-6, AJ wrote:
> Because we allowed lazy minorities to live here and your liberal leader wants to feed them.

If you REALLY think Obama is a liberal, you're dumber than I'm giving you credit for.

> Because we spend it more wisely than other states and actually improve our infrastructures.

No you don't.

> Because it's fun to make fun of fags.

You shouldn't make fun of your kind, fat faggot.

> Yeah, sometimes planes stop in Vegas when you're trying to get to Hawaii.

When you're in Hawaii, do you ever get mistaken for a beached whale? LOL!

[FVH]

LOL! Here's comes another Killer "I'm right, even though I'm really wrong" back and forth.

[AJ]

On Jan 31, 3:09 pm, Busboy Jefe <busboyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So let's see here. Angry southern whitey who hates the gubmint? Check.
>
> Previous history of threatening to shoot intruders on his property?
> Check.
>
> Sees himself as an anti-law rebel? Check.
>
> Demonstrates his bravado by beating a dog to death with a pipe,
> threatening to shoot neighborhood children, and firing shots at
> adults? Check.
>
> Sounds like the perfect man to lead The Revolution! So how does he
> proceed?
>
> ...by killing a 66-year-old bus driver, then kidnapping a 5 year-old
> boy and holding him hostage in an underground bunker:
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/negotiators-talking-ala-captor-pipe-181459029.html
>
> OK, to be somewhat fair...if I lived in rural fucking Alabama, I'd
> probably wanna kill stuff too. That aside...
>
> THIS is the kind of idiot that would be a part of your "civil war",
> Professor. Small-dicked and only tough enough to take his anger out on
> dogs, old men, and kids. Good luck with that!
>
> El Jefe

Take note of how long one man held off so many police officers for all
those days. And take note of what one man can do against the LAPD.
Now imagine an entire nation armed and defending themselves.

[FVH]

Psst, in a "war" you nutjobs would be obliterated in within minutes. Imagine drones flying over your fat, egg shaped head as you shit your pants knowing what's about to happen. Idiot.