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steveh99

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Nov 6, 2012, 11:17:25 PM11/6/12
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You were wrong again AJ
Ohio put Obama over the top

FVH

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Nov 7, 2012, 12:13:41 AM11/7/12
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Killer incorrectly predicted the election again. He's going to have a
tough Wednesday. LOL!

Hi, Killer! Hope you enjoyed reading this post!
FVH
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steveh99

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Nov 7, 2012, 12:15:41 AM11/7/12
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In article <baffb4c8-b9c1-474a-9067-7ac194d46650@
3g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, jarj...@gmail.com says...
> On Nov 6, 10:17ᅵpm, steveh99 <steve...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> > You were wrong again AJ
> > Ohio put Obama over the top

I pretty much knew as the rest of the world knew that if Obama won Ohio
he would win and he did

FVH

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Nov 7, 2012, 2:24:59 AM11/7/12
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Yep. There's a lot of auto industry in your state, which Obama bailed
out. They weren't going to vote against him.

Busboy Jefe

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Nov 7, 2012, 3:54:37 AM11/7/12
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On Nov 6, 10:17 pm, steveh99 <steve...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> You were wrong again AJ

As redundant as it is to say, it never gets old reading it. =)

El Jefe

Busboy Jefe

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Nov 7, 2012, 3:56:42 AM11/7/12
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On Nov 6, 11:13 pm, FVH <jarjo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Killer incorrectly predicted the election again. He's going to have a
> tough Wednesday. LOL!

I "predict" that he'll ignore most of this, if he's even sober enough
to log in after his Natural Light binge...

El Jefe

steveh99

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Nov 7, 2012, 8:46:54 AM11/7/12
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In article <b2bcc462-c21f-43eb-9f63-06465eb14a74
@j18g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, busbo...@gmail.com says...
Natural Light is just nasty on any account

AJ

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Nov 7, 2012, 11:49:33 AM11/7/12
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On Nov 6, 10:17 pm, steveh99 <steve...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> You were wrong again AJ
> Ohio put Obama over the top


True. I'm man enough to admit I was wrong.

FVH

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Nov 7, 2012, 12:41:34 PM11/7/12
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Oh he wants to go off on a rant, but he knows that's what we're all
waiting for. He doesn't have a lot of will power, so after reading my
posts he'll get mad and start a-ranting!

FVH

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Nov 7, 2012, 12:42:24 PM11/7/12
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Then explain why it took you almost 4 years to admit you were wrong
about McCain winning, Professor. Four more years!

AJ

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Nov 7, 2012, 2:11:40 PM11/7/12
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On Nov 7, 2:56 am, Busboy Jefe <busboyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I "predict" that he'll ignore most of this, if he's even sober enough
> to log in after his Natural Light binge...
>
> El Jefe



You assume I'm shocked. I'm not. Like I said four years ago, I lost
all trust in the intelligence of the voting public. We've now become
a nation that lets urban cities and minorities decide for us. Again,
the naive have chosen idealistic over realistic. This will come back
to bite us all. IMO, after the last four years there was no sane
reason to vote for him again. I doubt that you or any other Obama
supporter cares, but you really have no idea just how many small towns
like mine will be destroyed if he doesn't lift some of these unfair
job killing EPA rules.
This is the most divided our nation has been in our lifetime, this is
the most unemployed our nation has been in our lifetime, and the most
in debt we've been in our lifetime. So if that makes you want to
cheer and continue to support this decline in our country.......I just
can't accept that we've grown to be this evil.

So mock me all you want. Stereotype me. Belittle my faith and my
God. Use your insults and expose just how much more spite and despise
you have for me or those like minded like me. I really don't care,
because this country is turning into something I find less appealing
to waste my time fighting for.

83LowRider

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Nov 7, 2012, 2:37:41 PM11/7/12
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AJ wrote:

> You assume I'm shocked. I'm not. Like I said four years ago, I lost
> all trust in the intelligence of the voting public.

Election breakdown -
Obama received about 98% of the black vote.
He received 66% of the latino vote.
36% of the white male vote.
55% of the female vote.

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government.
It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves
largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority
always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the
public treasury"

? Alexis de Tocqueville





83LowRider

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Nov 7, 2012, 2:41:28 PM11/7/12
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83LowRider wrote:

> He received 66% of the latino vote.

Make that 71%.

http://news.yahoo.com/poll-latino-vote-devastated-gop-even-worse-exits-181922111--politics.html


Busboy Jefe

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Nov 7, 2012, 6:31:39 PM11/7/12
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Translation: whites are losing their grip on total control, and it
makes you mad.

That's really how what you two are writing comes off as. So WHAT if
Obama got a majority of the minority/female vote? Are you implying
that those votes are somehow ignorant, whereas the southern whites who
robotically vote for repub ticket no matter what aren't? Or the
christians, who would normally see mormons as red-headed step
children?

Obama's re-election is a total rebuke of everything you guys have been
chirping about the past 4 years. Despite the high UE rate, they took a
look at the best you had to offer as a solution...and slapped it back.
That's gotta hurt.

But don't fret too much...you can now look forward to making sure
Obama is only a two-term president. =)

El Jefe

Busboy Jefe

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Nov 7, 2012, 6:45:17 PM11/7/12
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By the way, I'd add that Romney lost a good chunk of the senior vote
as well, because they came to understand what is plans for Medicare/SS
would do. Romney gambled that they would all be thinking "Well, *I'll*
be safe from those changes, so fuck the future generations"...and he
lost.

And he'd have gotten more of the female vote if it weren't for his
archaic, Ward Cleaver view of women "coming home to cook", "binders
full of women" comment, and his party's astoundingly ignorant views on
rape and abortion. Of course, the "war on women" is just a myth
propagated by the liberal media...

So, you know, maybe your party should take a good look at itself when
it opines about not getting votes from certain segments.

El Jefe

steveh99

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Nov 7, 2012, 6:53:41 PM11/7/12
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In article <b96417b9-198c-44db-8f49-983c04eb8616
@j10g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, busbo...@gmail.com says...
scary to think Romney was the best that Republicans could come up with

Busboy Jefe

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Nov 7, 2012, 6:55:17 PM11/7/12
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On Nov 7, 1:11 pm, AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com> wrote:
>  I doubt that you or any other Obama
> supporter cares, but you really have no idea just how many small towns
> like mine will be destroyed if he doesn't lift some of these unfair
> job killing EPA rules.

Again: the cost of producing coal has gone up, the price of natural
gas has gone down. That's the free market you claim to love, working
as intended. Enjoy it.

You did not complain one bit when your "side" implemented many of
these regulations, but now blame Obama for them all (never mind that
some of these companies have admitted that they're not shutting mines
down because of regs). Hypocrisy. End of story.

El Jefe

AJ

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Nov 7, 2012, 7:26:35 PM11/7/12
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You're wrong dude. Know your history. Not the first website you find
that fits your theory. You have no clue what's really going on here
and you don't care. Simple as that.

FVH

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Nov 7, 2012, 8:26:02 PM11/7/12
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On Nov 7, 1:11 pm, AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com> wrote:
>   You assume I'm shocked.  I'm not. Like I said four years ago, I lost
> all trust in the intelligence of the voting public.  We've now become
> a nation that lets urban cities and minorities decide for us.

That's because white men are no longer the majority voice in politics,
ya fucking dummy. The above rant states just how racist/sexist/
homophobic you truly are. Big cities have always decided elections (in
modern times), this is nothing new. Now that almost everyone gets a
voice you're seeing what America truly wants, not what lowlifes like
you want.

> Again, the naive have chosen idealistic over realistic.

Romney lost, so that's not the case. If you supported Romney you were
supporting a guy who never took a stand on anything--unless it was on
hidden tape. America got stupid in 2010 and gave the Tea Party a
chance and look at what happened to them last night. It's never going
to go back to the KKK times you want them to be. The country is slowly
but surely progressing and you don't like that because you're being
left behind.

> This will come back to bite us all.

No it won't. Nothing major will change for regular Joes like you and
me. It wouldn't have with McCain or Romney either. Psst, Obama is more
moderate conservative than anything. You're just too stupid and
hateful to see that.

> IMO, after the last four years there was no sane reason to vote for him again.

Sure there was. The main reason was keeping what constitutes (no pun
intended) as the Republican Party from shitting over this country yet
again. This country will survive the Kenyan, just like it survived
Bush.

> I doubt that you or any other Obama supporter cares, but you really have no idea just how many small towns like mine will be destroyed if he doesn't lift some of these unfair job killing EPA rules.

Perhaps if you took the fat time to understand the EPA rules and how
they really "affect" your small town, you'd realize that Obama isn't
the devil. But you can't and won't so you'll continue to blame Obama
for everything wrong with your pathetic life.

> This is the most divided our nation has been in our lifetime,

Not really. Presidential elections are generally really close and
there's always a group of people that President could never please.
Since you live in a bubble you think that small group is bigger than
your gut. It's not.

> this is the most unemployed our nation has been in our lifetime,

And it's slowly but surely getting better, despite what you try to
convince yourself. Bush's shit on the flag job would take far more
than 4 years to repair, ya fucking dummy. Realistically, it most
likely won't be repaired after 8. All people are looking for now is
progress. Educated people understand that this is a long, hard road
that is going to take time to get back on track. Declaring Obama "the
worst President of all time" weeks into his first term showed how
uneducated you are.

> and the most in debt we've been in our lifetime.

That's not true.

> So if that makes you want to cheer and continue to support this decline in our country.......

Actually, people are more cheering that the looney right didn't re-
take the reins rather than Obama winning another term. Despite what
you've been told, there isn't this blind worship of the evil Kenyan.
He's seen as middle of the road by most and most of us were willing to
give him another four years, esp when you consider the alternative.

> I just can't accept that we've grown to be this evil.

Enough with the drama queen whining, fat bitch. You didn't get your
way, so take it like a fat man and move on. The country isn't going to
be destroyed or suddenly turn into Kenya West like you fear. You'll
continue to get gov't assistance and handouts from your black leader.

>  So mock me all you want. Stereotype me.

Mocking you is what RMAK is all about. No one is stereotyping you--you
ARE a fat, gay, racist redneck.

> Belittle my faith and my God.

You have no faith. You're full of hate and gravy. Quit hiding behind
religion to promote hate--you know like OBL did.

> Use your insults and expose just how much more spite and despise you have for me or those like minded like me.

You act like it's a bad thing to "spite and despise" a fat ball of
hate such as yourself.

> I really don't care,

Oh, you care, fat stuff.

> because this country is turning into something I find less appealing to waste my time fighting for.

Aw, did last night hurt your little bitty feelings, Rebel? I LOVE how
you have to spend the next FOUR YEARS with a black man as your
President. Don't look now, but there's a good chance a Latino or woman
will be President in 2016. LOL!

FVH

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Nov 7, 2012, 8:38:33 PM11/7/12
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On Nov 7, 5:31 pm, Busboy Jefe <busboyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Translation: whites are losing their grip on total control, and it makes you mad.
>
> That's really how what you two are writing comes off as. So WHAT if
> Obama got a majority of the minority/female vote? Are you implying
> that those votes are somehow ignorant, whereas the southern whites who
> robotically vote for repub ticket no matter what aren't? Or the
> christians, who would normally see mormons as red-headed step children?

The HOOD RATS know they're losing control if this country and it
scares them to death. They were in denial for during this campaign
thinking that the youth and minorities would stay home and let whitey
"take back" the country. That didn't happen and now you're seeing the
whining. It's always something with these two.

> Obama's re-election is a total rebuke of everything you guys have been
> chirping about the past 4 years. Despite the high UE rate, they took a
> look at the best you had to offer as a solution...and slapped it back.
> That's gotta hurt.

Obama ran this country into the ground so badly that he was re-
elected. This HAS to anger the HOOD RATS.

> But don't fret too much...you can now look forward to making sure Obama is only a two-term president. =)

We'll follow up Obama with a Latino or a woman. :D

Busboy Jefe

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Nov 7, 2012, 8:38:56 PM11/7/12
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On Nov 7, 6:26 pm, AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com> wrote:

> You're wrong dude.  Know your history. Not the first website you find
> that fits your theory.  You have no clue what's really going on here
> and you don't care. Simple as that.

This is pretty funny coming from a guy whose "proof" often consists of
plugging a term into Google and then posting ALL of the links...even
the ones that contradict what you're trying to say.

El Jefe

FVH

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Nov 7, 2012, 8:41:14 PM11/7/12
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This election showed that the majority doesn't buy what the nutjobs
are selling. The HOOD RATS underestimated the woman, youth, and Latino
vote, hence Romney losing. They thought they had enough of the white
vote to win, which used to work. Nowadays, it does not. Time for the
elephants to re-tool.

FVH

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Nov 7, 2012, 8:42:52 PM11/7/12
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You're part of a dying breed that is being left behind. Quit hiding
behind your town to promote your racist views. Idiot.
On Nov 7, 6:26 pm, AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com> wrote:

steveh99

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Nov 7, 2012, 9:15:02 PM11/7/12
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In article <ac8a0115-82e9-44ee-a4ed-
f98e21...@x21g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>, jarj...@gmail.com says...
If the republican party doesn't stop catering to rich and shunning the
middle class they will become extinct down the road

steveh99

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Nov 7, 2012, 9:21:52 PM11/7/12
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In article <d994d192-7ce0-44e9-b4c6-c48930a8e0e0
@o30g2000vbu.googlegroups.com>, jarj...@gmail.com says...
Ohio turning blue yet again proves that were becoming intollerant of the
snobbish better than everyone else attitude tghat many republicans often
exibit
Mitt Romney is nothing but a rich old fool that wouldnt think twice
about throwing the entire middle class (whats left of it) under a damn
bus.. He flip flops like a fish out of the water and lies about
everything
I think Ron Paul might have been a better choice for the republican
party. But you know, I dont believe that R Paul is the typical snibbish
conservative that hangs with the typical nose in the cloud clique but
thats just me

83LowRider

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Nov 7, 2012, 10:27:36 PM11/7/12
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steveh99 wrote:

> Ohio turning blue yet again proves that were becoming intollerant of
> the snobbish better than everyone else attitude tghat many
> republicans often exibit

You really don't even have a clue about your own state do you?
If your brain had ANY less activity you would be declared dead.

Let's take a look at your beloved blue state...

First -- this is an older map but still shows the red/blue areas.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57466080-503544/obamas-bus-tour-looking-for-blue-collar-votes-in-critical-blue-counties/

So what do we see? A bigass giant red map except for
Columbus, Youngstown, Cincinnatti, Cleveland and Akron.
There's your fucking blue counties...

So what you may say? -------------------

Columbus

"With a crime rate of 72 per one thousand residents, Columbus
has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all
communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very
largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim of either violent
or property crime here is one in 14. Within Ohio, more than 97%
of the communities have a lower crime rate than Columbus."
http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/oh/columbus/crime/#description

Youngstown

"With a crime rate of 79 per one thousand residents, Youngstown
has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all
communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very
largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim of either
violent or property crime here is one in 13. Within Ohio, more
than 99% of the communities have a lower crime rate than
Youngstown.In fact, after researching dangerous places to live,
NeighborhoodScout found Youngstown to be one of the top 100 most
dangerous cities in the U.S.A."
http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/oh/youngstown/crime/#description

Cincinnati

"With a crime rate of 84 per one thousand residents, Cincinnati
has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all
communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very
largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim of either violent
or property crime here is one in 12. Within Ohio, more than 99% of
the communities have a lower crime rate than Cincinnati.In fact,
after researching dangerous places to live, NeighborhoodScout
found Cincinnati to be one of the top 100 most dangerous cities
in the U.S.A."
http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/oh/cincinnati/crime/#description

Cleveland

"With a crime rate of 73 per one thousand residents, Cleveland
has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all
communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very
largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim of either
violent or property crime here is one in 14. Within Ohio, more
than 98% of the communities have a lower crime rate than Cleveland.
In fact, after researching dangerous places to live,
NeighborhoodScout found Cleveland to be one of the top 100 most
dangerous cities in the U.S.A."
http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/oh/cleveland/crime/#description

Akron

"With a crime rate of 65 per one thousand residents, Akron
has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to
all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to
the very largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim
of either violent or property crime here is one in 15. Within
Ohio, more than 96% of the communities have a lower crime rate
than Akron."
http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/oh/akron/crime/#description

There's your fucking blue counties... you should be so proud.

> Mitt Romney is nothing but a rich old fool that wouldnt think twice
> about throwing the entire middle class (whats left of it) under a damn
> bus.. He flip flops like a fish out of the water and lies about
> everything
> I think Ron Paul might have been a better choice for the republican
> party. But you know, I dont believe that R Paul is the typical
> snibbish conservative that hangs with the typical nose in the cloud
> clique but thats just me

You're so fucking stupid the above doesn't deserve a argument.



steveh99

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Nov 7, 2012, 11:01:37 PM11/7/12
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In article <k7f8r9$cfk$1...@dont-email.me>, 83low...@nywilldo.com says...
LOL

83LowRider

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Nov 8, 2012, 1:47:31 AM11/8/12
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Busboy Jefe wrote:

> Translation: whites are losing their grip on total control, and it
> makes you mad.

Somewhat... yes. Do you think the blacks had an agenda? Do
latinos have an agenda? Is there a female agenda? Of course there is.
Their outlook for our future doesn't exactly match mine. So what?

> That's really how what you two are writing comes off as. So WHAT if
> Obama got a majority of the minority/female vote? Are you implying
> that those votes are somehow ignorant, whereas the southern whites who
> robotically vote for repub ticket no matter what aren't? Or the
> christians, who would normally see mormons as red-headed step
> children?

It's real simple... Obama won. I'm not bitching, I'm just breaking it
down. And I didn't vote for Romney btw... Tennessee was locked
in as a red state decades ago so I voted my conscious and pulled
the proverbial lever for Gary Johnson.

> Obama's re-election is a total rebuke of everything you guys have been
> chirping about the past 4 years. Despite the high UE rate, they took a
> look at the best you had to offer as a solution...and slapped it back.
> That's gotta hurt.

No pain involved, just massive sadness that the people that
made this country so great have virtually no say in it anymore.

> But don't fret too much...you can now look forward to making sure
> Obama is only a two-term president. =)

If he doesn't bring things waaaaaay back up to par there will not
be another dem president for many years. The Bush fuckups
did the same thing to republicans and his record wasn't near this
bad.


83LowRider

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Nov 8, 2012, 1:52:38 AM11/8/12
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Busboy Jefe wrote:

> By the way, I'd add that Romney lost a good chunk of the senior vote
> as well, because they came to understand what is plans for Medicare/SS
> would do. Romney gambled that they would all be thinking "Well, *I'll*
> be safe from those changes, so fuck the future generations"...and he
> lost.
>
> And he'd have gotten more of the female vote if it weren't for his
> archaic, Ward Cleaver view of women "coming home to cook", "binders
> full of women" comment, and his party's astoundingly ignorant views on
> rape and abortion. Of course, the "war on women" is just a myth
> propagated by the liberal media...

Just because Obama wrote a story of darkness and mayhem it
doesn't mean that it is non-fiction. Romney allowed himself to be
painted that way to some degree -- but that is his own fault. Romney
had no agenda against women and to think or say otherwise is
just plain stupid. And seniors will be hurt far more under Obamacare
than anything that Romney may have done.


Busboy Jefe

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Nov 8, 2012, 5:21:31 AM11/8/12
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On Nov 7, 9:27 pm, "83LowRider" <83lowri...@nywilldo.com> wrote:
> steveh99 wrote:
> > Ohio turning blue yet again proves that were becoming intollerant of
> > the snobbish better than everyone else attitude tghat many
> > republicans often exibit
>
> You really don't even have a clue about your own state do you?
> If your brain had ANY less activity you would be declared dead.
>
> Let's take a look at your beloved blue state...
>
> First -- this is an older map but still shows the red/blue areas.
>
> http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57466080-503544/obamas-bus-tou...
Glass houses, brutha. The red south routinely tops the list for crime;
TN is a staple on the high crime states list as well. And the lists
don't count crimes against animals. Those poor sheep!

You can point to the "liberal" cities all you want, but it should go
without saying that the larger a population is, the more crime you'll
find. I'm not really sure what your point in the above is.

Also, before anyone says it, yes indeed, I am aware that Vegas ranks
high as well, often sitting at number 1 as far as cities go.

But, ya know, TOURISTS. ;)

El Jefe

Busboy Jefe

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Nov 8, 2012, 5:42:14 AM11/8/12
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On Nov 8, 12:47 am, "83LowRider" <83lowri...@nywilldo.com> wrote:
> Busboy Jefe wrote:
> > Translation: whites are losing their grip on total control, and it
> > makes you mad.
>
> Somewhat... yes. Do you think the blacks had an agenda? Do
> latinos have an agenda? Is there a female agenda? Of course there is.
> Their outlook for our future doesn't exactly match mine. So what?

Does everyone not have an agenda of sorts? Whites? Christians? Rich
people? Corporations?

Bill-O cleared it all up: "The white establishment is now the
minority.."

> It's real simple... Obama won. I'm not bitching, I'm just breaking it
> down. And I didn't vote for Romney btw... Tennessee was locked
> in as a red state decades ago so I voted my conscious and pulled
> the proverbial lever for Gary Johnson.

I like his views on Iran, Israel, the joke that is the "war" on drugs,
and his mostly progressive stance on social issues. I also appreciate
that he's brave enough to say that he doesn't seek the counsel of god
re: politics. I remain skeptical of certain elements of his fiscal
stance, however.

> No pain involved, just massive sadness that the people that
> made this country so great have virtually no say in it anymore.

Who are these great people that had no say?

> If he doesn't bring things waaaaaay back up to par there will not
> be another dem president for many years. The Bush fuckups
> did the same thing to republicans and his record wasn't near this
> bad.

I think you'll find that if repubs don't get with the program and work
with the guy, they'll go the way of the mammoth. And not soon enough.
I'm tired of the obstructionism and pettiness.

El Jefe

Busboy Jefe

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Nov 8, 2012, 5:48:48 AM11/8/12
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On Nov 8, 12:52 am, "83LowRider" <83lowri...@nywilldo.com> wrote:

> Just because Obama wrote a story of darkness and mayhem it
> doesn't mean that it is non-fiction. Romney allowed himself to be
> painted that way to some degree -- but that is his own fault. Romney
> had no agenda against women and to think or say otherwise is
> just plain stupid. And seniors will be hurt far more under Obamacare
> than anything that Romney may have done.

Romney didn't allow himself to be painted. HE painted himself that
way, partly by siding with morons that are clearly uncomfortable with
vaginas, and partly because that's how he appears to view things. He
tripped over his own dick at the town hall debate when asked about
women. One of the key segments to winning the election and he couldn't
even *fake* his way past one question. It was very telling.

Perhaps Romney doesn't have a personal agenda against women, but by
aligning himself with people and policies that do? Lie down with
dogs...

El Jefe

83LowRider

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Nov 8, 2012, 6:32:15 AM11/8/12
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Busboy Jefe wrote:

> Romney didn't allow himself to be painted. HE painted himself that
> way, partly by siding with morons that are clearly uncomfortable with
> vaginas, and partly because that's how he appears to view things. He
> tripped over his own dick at the town hall debate when asked about
> women. One of the key segments to winning the election and he couldn't
> even *fake* his way past one question. It was very telling.
>
> Perhaps Romney doesn't have a personal agenda against women, but by
> aligning himself with people and policies that do? Lie down with
> dogs...

Most presidents <including Obama> allow their
handlers and their speechwriters and their "top
advisors" to set their agenda. As I've stated many
times - I want a candidate to speak exactly what
they feel and mean exactly what they say.


83LowRider

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Nov 8, 2012, 7:40:45 AM11/8/12
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Busboy Jefe wrote:

>> There's your fucking blue counties... you should be so proud.
>
> Glass houses, brutha. The red south routinely tops the list for crime;

But where is that crime? Regarding Ohio --> at a glance the state
looks almost solid red. The 5 areas that showed blue I did a check on.
And I wasn't trying to relate crime to the Obama vote, this was simply
a link I'd never seen before and it shows the typical makeup of a large
city... crime and poverty and the big money liberals on the other end.
Compare that against the average "red" area where you'll likely find
much less crime (proven by the statistics) a lot less poverty (as in the
bum/street element) and a lot less 'big $$ executives' as well.

> TN is a staple on the high crime states list as well.

It didn't even occur to me to look up TN until now... so I took
OUR three largest cities. The chances of being a victim in TN is
1 in 163.

Memphis and Nashville are in the top 100 most dangerous cities.
Three of those I listed for Ohio are also in that category.

Whites make up only 29% of Memphis.
Memphis - 1 in 62 -- about 2 1/5 times as likely a victim

Whites make up 60% of Nashville.
Nashville - 1 in 85 -- about 2 times as likely a victim

Whites make up 76% of Knoxville.
Knoxville - 1 in 101 -- about 1.6 times more likely a victim

Would you like to guess where the only "blue"
shows up on our electoral map? You might
want to guess Memphis and Nashville.

Whites make up 37% of Cleveland
Whites make up 47% of Youngstown
Whites make up 49% of Cincinnati

So WTF does all this mean? It means that large criminal
cities with tons of minorities vote democratic.

> And the lists
> don't count crimes against animals. Those poor sheep!

Full out truth, no bullshit -- virtually no sheep here but we do
have more beautiful women than almost anywhere I've ever been.
That includes Los Angeles, Dallas, Orlando and hundreds of other
cities. We grow them right down here. The only place I've ever
been more impressed? was New York. That's likely due to the
sheer numbers of people on the street.

> You can point to the "liberal" cities all you want, but it should go
> without saying that the larger a population is, the more crime you'll
> find. I'm not really sure what your point in the above is.

The stats above say it all. Huge numbers go to the big cities to
live off the fruits of others. Everywhere from San Fran to NY
that I've ever been <Atlanta being the worst> the bums swarm
to the big cities. The black & latino element cannot be ignored either.
We have huge numbers of people concentrated in these cities and
they carry the state. I suppose it's to be expected as we see it in
muslim populations all across Europe. When you lose the majority
you become subjected to the will of the minorities. Simple as that.

> Also, before anyone says it, yes indeed, I am aware that Vegas ranks
> high as well, often sitting at number 1 as far as cities go.

> But, ya know, TOURISTS. ;)

Yeah... those damn criminal tourists coming into town with
money in their pockets..! Like I said above, it's the people
that swarm to Vegas to take ADVANTAGE of the tourists
that put Vegas high on the list.

Las Vegas is 62% white.
Chances of being a victim in Nevada - 1 in 151
Chances of being a victim in Las Vegas - 1 in 116

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/39/3916000.html
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/47/4752006.html
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/47/4748000.html
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/47/4740000.html
http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/oh/columbus/crime/#data
http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/tn/knoxville/crime/#data
http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/tn/nashville/crime/#data
http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/tn/memphis/crime/#description
http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/nv/las-vegas/crime/


83LowRider

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Nov 8, 2012, 7:50:52 AM11/8/12
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Busboy Jefe wrote:

>> Somewhat... yes. Do you think the blacks had an agenda? Do
>> latinos have an agenda? Is there a female agenda? Of course there is.
>> Their outlook for our future doesn't exactly match mine. So what?
>
> Does everyone not have an agenda of sorts? Whites? Christians? Rich
> people? Corporations?
>
> Bill-O cleared it all up: "The white establishment is now the
> minority.."

All true enough.

>> It's real simple... Obama won. I'm not bitching, I'm just breaking it
>> down. And I didn't vote for Romney btw... Tennessee was locked
>> in as a red state decades ago so I voted my conscious and pulled
>> the proverbial lever for Gary Johnson.
>
> I like his views on Iran, Israel, the joke that is the "war" on drugs,
> and his mostly progressive stance on social issues. I also appreciate
> that he's brave enough to say that he doesn't seek the counsel of god
> re: politics. I remain skeptical of certain elements of his fiscal
> stance, however.

This is such a no-brainer that steve should be able to grasp
it... start simple, implement a new tax law, cut every dept by
5% this year and 5% a year or two down the road. If that ain't
enough, cut 5% more until it is.

>> No pain involved, just massive sadness that the people that
>> made this country so great have virtually no say in it anymore.
>
> Who are these great people that had no say?

The 'average Joe' hasn't had a say in many years.
We cater to every minority, we have to have every
aspect of our life regulated. We see a horrid crime we
have to make some new laws. We have become a nation
of lemmings. Put on your shirt and shoes and don't
break the speed limit. Collect your paycheck or your
welfare check, rinse and repeat. I have a vote but I have
no say/impact on my taxes, the budget, the lobbyists
or anything else in DC.

>> If he doesn't bring things waaaaaay back up to par there will not
>> be another dem president for many years. The Bush fuckups
>> did the same thing to republicans and his record wasn't near this
>> bad.
>
> I think you'll find that if repubs don't get with the program and work
> with the guy, they'll go the way of the mammoth. And not soon enough.
> I'm tired of the obstructionism and pettiness.

You misunderstand politics. It's ain't what you do <as a party>
so much as it is which party is pissing people off the most.
Tired of Bush, get a dem.... when shit gets bad enough under the
dems we'll put a repub back in office. Rinse and repeat.


AJ

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Nov 8, 2012, 12:06:40 PM11/8/12
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And you still ignore the facts and make up your own theory. Again,
the freedom and new rules Obama set in motion with the EPA in 2009. I
live here, my friends live here, my customers live here......you
don't. You don't see what is happening here nor do you care. You
call us a "welfare state" while we are being restricted from
working. You don't even realize you're attacking American energy nor
do you realize where natural gas comes from here in my region that the
rest of America enjoys.

The only way your leader will ever succeed is when he bows down to the
republicans in DC. There will be a day when your side comes running
to us and begging us to save you from yourselves. History repeats
itself.

AJ

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Nov 8, 2012, 12:11:56 PM11/8/12
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On Nov 7, 10:01 pm, steveh99 <steve...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> LOL- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

You laugh while you support the downfall of your own State? You turn
a blind eye to the minorities that lost their jobs under Obama. You
don't even realize more black people were working before Obama took
office. Well. you got the President you wanted and I hope you get
exactly what you deserve.

AJ

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Nov 8, 2012, 12:37:26 PM11/8/12
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On Nov 8, 4:21 am, Busboy Jefe <busboyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Glass houses, brutha. The red south routinely tops the list for crime;


And you're probably under the illusion that these are all white
communities aren't you?

FVH

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Nov 8, 2012, 4:56:26 PM11/8/12
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On Nov 8, 11:06 am, AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com> wrote:
> And you still ignore the facts and make up your own theory.  Again,
> the freedom and new rules Obama set in motion with the EPA in 2009.  I
> live here, my friends live here, my customers live here......you
> don't.    You don't see what is happening here nor do you care.  You
> call us a "welfare state" while we are being restricted from
> working.   You don't even realize you're attacking American energy nor
> do you realize where natural gas comes from here in my region that the
> rest of America enjoys.

You don't live in a civilized society where progress is being made and
racism is not normal. Dude, you're a small town fat fuck who hasn't
seen the real world--what the fuck do you know about this great
nation? You live in this bubble where you're convinced your way of
life is normal, when in REALITY it isn't. You're pushing 40, work in
retail, have no education, have no social skills, and don't know the
world around you. And you wonder why you're being left behind?

> The only way your leader will ever succeed is when he bows down to the
> republicans in DC.  There will be a day when your side comes running
> to us and begging us to save you from yourselves.  History repeats itself.

LOL! You need to wake up and join the rest of us into reality. The
Republicans are the ones who have to "bow down" to Obama and Dems,
otherwise they're going to crumble. They're going to have to have
comprise on immigration, among others things, to get Latinos on their
side. They're going to have to concede a lot of their beliefs to get
the woman and gay vote. Not to mention they have to show blacks that
they accept them as equals. They can no longer rely solely on the
white man's vote because the white man no longer calls the shots.
People like you will sit on their fat, white asses and continue to
pretend it's 1955 while the rest of us enjoy a progressive America.

FVH

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Nov 8, 2012, 4:57:14 PM11/8/12
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What do you know about Ohio? Hell, you were convinced Romney would win
it, so whatever you have to say is moot.

FVH

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Nov 8, 2012, 4:57:58 PM11/8/12
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You're under the illusion the majority "think" like you do. You were
saying?

Busboy Jefe

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Nov 8, 2012, 7:30:49 PM11/8/12
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On Nov 8, 11:37 am, AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com> wrote:
Ah, so now we get to the heart of the matter. It's all them darkies
commitin' crimes that voted for Obama! Obama's gunna take yer guns
away, give 'em to the thugs, and they'll come to your small,
insignificant area to rape, pillage, loot...and git more Obamaphones!

What I think is that the larger a population, the more crime will
exist. The poorer/less educated an area, the more crime will exist.
That transcends skin color and geographical location.

El Jefe

Busboy Jefe

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Nov 8, 2012, 7:49:50 PM11/8/12
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On Nov 8, 11:06 am, AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Nov 7, 7:38 pm, Busboy Jefe <busboyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 7, 6:26 pm, AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > You're wrong dude.  Know your history. Not the first website you find
> > > that fits your theory.  You have no clue what's really going on here
> > > and you don't care. Simple as that.
>
> > This is pretty funny coming from a guy whose "proof" often consists of
> > plugging a term into Google and then posting ALL of the links...even
> > the ones that contradict what you're trying to say.
>
> > El Jefe
>
> And you still ignore the facts and make up your own theory.  Again,
> the freedom and new rules Obama set in motion with the EPA in 2009.  I
> live here, my friends live here, my customers live here......you
> don't.

Remember what you posted here the next time you want to pretend you're
an expert on what's happening in Vegas, Demographer "Tourists
Outnumber The Locals" Johnson.

> You don't see what is happening here nor do you care.

Indeed, mining is far, far down on my list of concerns. The future
does not lie with mining.

> You call us a "welfare state" while we are being restricted from
> working.

You ARE a welfare state. If it weren't for those blue, liberal states
you despise, you'd be a wasteland. And don't forget those Obamabucks
that helped your repub governor.

> You don't even realize you're attacking American energy nor
> do you realize where natural gas comes from here in my region that the
> rest of America enjoys.

How am I "attacking" American energy by pointing out that *companies
themselves* have admitted that mines are not closing because of
regulations? If I'm "attacking" American energy, than weren't the
repubs on your "side" doing the same thing when they implemented these
very regulations you're whining about? Where's your rage over that?

> The only way your leader will ever succeed is when he bows down to the
> republicans in DC.  There will be a day when your side comes running
> to us and begging us to save you from yourselves.  History repeats
> itself.

You've got an additional four years to keep telling yourself that.
Enjoy it.

El Jefe

steveh99

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Nov 8, 2012, 9:50:12 PM11/8/12
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In article <c9b6c506-c2c8-4894-b8a6-62c9ffa659d0@
4g2000yql.googlegroups.com>, misfits...@aol.com says...
You fail to see the big picture here
Were all americans that love our country and none no more than the
others.
We need to start working together, get shit done and get through the
ridiculous gridlock..
That means concessions being made by both sides to get the job done.
Nothing is going to change the fact that democrats will keep the white
house and the senate majority until at least 2016.
We elect our leaders to continue the unfinished business of keeping this
country going and they, all of them need to learn how to give and take
for the sake of this country

AJ

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Nov 9, 2012, 11:19:21 AM11/9/12
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On Nov 8, 8:50 pm, steveh99 <steve...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> In article <c9b6c506-c2c8-4894-b8a6-62c9ffa659d0@
> 4g2000yql.googlegroups.com>, misfitskiss...@aol.com says...
>
>
>
> > On Nov 7, 10:01 pm, steveh99 <steve...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> > > LOL- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > You laugh while you support the downfall of your own State?  You turn
> > a blind eye to the minorities that lost their jobs under Obama.  You
> > don't even realize more black people were working before Obama took
> > office.  Well. you got the President you wanted and I hope you get
> > exactly what you deserve.
>
> You fail to see the big picture here
> Were all americans that love our country and none no more than the
> others.
> We need to start working together, get shit done and get through the
> ridiculous gridlock..
> That means concessions being made by both sides to get the job done.
> Nothing is going to change the fact that democrats will keep the white
> house and the senate majority until at least 2016.
> We elect our leaders to continue the unfinished business of keeping this
> country going and they, all of them need to learn how to give and take
> for the sake of this country

I agree, but I honestly don't think the majority of citizens feel this
way anymore.

AJ

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Nov 9, 2012, 11:23:07 AM11/9/12
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Wouldn't need it if we were allowed to work and help ourselves.
>
> > You don't even realize you're attacking American energy nor
> > do you realize where natural gas comes from here in my region that the
> > rest of America enjoys.
>
> How am I "attacking" American energy by pointing out that *companies
> themselves* have admitted that mines are not closing because of
> regulations? If I'm "attacking" American energy, than weren't the
> repubs on your "side" doing the same thing when they implemented these
> very regulations you're whining about? Where's your rage over that?

You fail to realize the timeline.
>
> > The only way your leader will ever succeed is when he bows down to the
> > republicans in DC.  There will be a day when your side comes running
> > to us and begging us to save you from yourselves.  History repeats
> > itself.
>
> You've got an additional four years to keep telling yourself that.
> Enjoy it.
>
> El Jefe- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

It won't be four years before that happens.

AJ

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Nov 9, 2012, 11:25:40 AM11/9/12
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On Nov 8, 6:30 pm, Busboy Jefe <busboyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 8, 11:37 am, AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 8, 4:21 am, Busboy Jefe <busboyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Glass houses, brutha. The red south routinely tops the list for crime;
>
> > And you're probably under the illusion that these are all white
> > communities aren't you?
>
> Ah, so now we get to the heart of the matter.

And that's you're not white are you?
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