Re: christmas presents
lab~rat >:-)
puked:
>
>
>Anybody get anything groovy?
>
>I got a new guitar and Frehleys Anamoly.
>
Cordless sawzall, 2hp pump for my pool waterfall and license to buy
something fun. I'm trying to decide which mistress gets a present (by
mistress, I mean my music interest, car interest or astronomy
interest).
What kind of guitar did ya get?
--
lab~rat >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
Tattoo Vampire
> Anybody get anything groovy?
>
> I got a new guitar and Frehleys Anamoly.
I got slacks and sweaters for work, and a $200 iTunes gift card from my
boss. Wife and I didn't spend a lot on ourselves or anyone else this year.
(except on the grand-young'uns)
--
Regards,
[tv]
Owner/proprietor, Trollus Amongus, LLC
...Bureaucrats cut red tape--lengthwise.
AJ
> Moonpie wrote:
> > Anybody get anything groovy?
>
> > I got a new guitar and Frehleys Anamoly.
>
> I got slacks and sweaters for work, and a $200 iTunes gift card from my
> boss. Wife and I didn't spend a lot on ourselves or anyone else this year.
> (except on the grand-young'uns)
You could have gotten him a $200.00 gift card from my store and helped
us both out. :-/
FVH
FVH
He's privy to government inelegance Obama can't bring himself to
acknowledge. -AJ, grammar queen
10 years ago your posts were better written and your grammar was
better than what they are now.-AJ.
Yeah it would be hard to imagine millions of new jobs and a tough
bitch that wouldn't take any shit instead of a loser that bows to any
lesser
I wouldn't waste my time spitting on.-AJ, political expert
Pssst. Obama has been president for 7 years and you suck at math.-AJ,
2009
I'd rather speak American.-AJ, language expert
LOL! I doubt imergration is reading your posts.-Speeling bea
chaump, AJ.
McCain wins 2008 Election.This is what will be printed on every
newspaper next week. Wait and see.-AJ, proving that he's an idiot.
our new commander and chief.- AJ, talking politics.
Stadiums have no walls!- AJ
*Geeks with key boards aren't intimidating.-AJ
Twinkle Toes Stanley hadn't quite picked up that Lick It Up/
Heaven's On Fire half a ballerina dance that he does.- db
How many times can the Greed Twins milk a cow? As many times as the
sheep will let them.-db
FVH
wrote:
> Unfortunately I get non descript gifts such as clothing etc. because I never tell anyone what I want, as most of my requests would be inappropriately expensive to ask for as a gift.
That's how I am. When people ask me what I want, I tell them cash will
be fine. With my b-day being so close to Christmas, it's easier for
people to just give me money and let me buy whatever I want. And I
like it that way!
> One thing I did get was the Sopranos complete series box set.
Not a bad gift! I thought abut asking for that, but I stuck with the
cash bit and will buy it on my own.
FVH
you 3 songs.
FVH
He's privy to government inelegance Obama can't bring himself to
acknowledge. -AJ, grammar queen
10 years ago your posts were better written and your grammar was
better than what they are now.-AJ.
Yeah it would be hard to imagine millions of new jobs and a tough
bitch that wouldn't take any shit instead of a loser that bows to any
lesser
I wouldn't waste my time spitting on.-AJ, political expert
Pssst. Obama has been president for 7 years and you suck at math.-AJ,
2009
I'd rather speak American.-AJ, language expert
LOL! I doubt imergration is reading your posts.-Speeling bea
chaump, AJ.
McCain wins 2008 Election.This is what will be printed on every
newspaper next week. Wait and see.-AJ, proving that he's an idiot.
our new commander and chief.- AJ, talking politics.
Stadiums have no walls!- AJ
*Geeks with key boards aren't intimidating.-AJ
Twinkle Toes Stanley hadn't quite picked up that Lick It Up/
Heaven's On Fire half a ballerina dance that he does.- db
How many times can the Greed Twins milk a cow? As many times as the
sheep will let them.-db
FVH
boss. And besides, I thought you had a "mass fortune". What's $200 to
a "rich white guy" such as yourself?
FVH
He's privy to government inelegance Obama can't bring himself to
acknowledge. -AJ, grammar queen
10 years ago your posts were better written and your grammar was
better than what they are now.-AJ.
Yeah it would be hard to imagine millions of new jobs and a tough
bitch that wouldn't take any shit instead of a loser that bows to any
lesser
I wouldn't waste my time spitting on.-AJ, political expert
Pssst. Obama has been president for 7 years and you suck at math.-AJ,
2009
I'd rather speak American.-AJ, language expert
LOL! I doubt imergration is reading your posts.-Speeling bea
chaump, AJ.
McCain wins 2008 Election.This is what will be printed on every
newspaper next week. Wait and see.-AJ, proving that he's an idiot.
our new commander and chief.- AJ, talking politics.
Stadiums have no walls!- AJ
*Geeks with key boards aren't intimidating.-AJ
Twinkle Toes Stanley hadn't quite picked up that Lick It Up/
Heaven's On Fire half a ballerina dance that he does.- db
How many times can the Greed Twins milk a cow? As many times as the
sheep will let them.-db
On Jan 5, 7:22 pm, AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com> wrote:
>> and a $200 iTunes gift card from my boss.
> You could have gotten him a $200.00 gift card from my store and helped us both out. :-/
lab~rat >:-)
puked:
>On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 14:42:31 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 11:49:28 -0500, Moonpie <mr_rc_...@gmail.com>
>>puked:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Anybody get anything groovy?
>>>
>>>I got a new guitar and Frehleys Anamoly.
>>>
>>
>>Cordless sawzall, 2hp pump for my pool waterfall and license to buy
>>something fun. I'm trying to decide which mistress gets a present (by
>>mistress, I mean my music interest, car interest or astronomy
>>interest).
>>
>>What kind of guitar did ya get?
>
>
>SX les paul junior.
>
>they're chinese made, and unbelievably cheap, all over Ebay, but the
>quality is really surprising. This one is all mahogany and the P90
>pickups sound like P90s should.
>
>The tuners arent fabulous and I assume some of the metal parts are the
>cheap potted variety so famous from chinese manufacturers. But for the
>price..
Never played one. Sounds cool for the bucks.
>
>I've got an SX jazz bass clone and its excellent, for what it is, too.
>
>I spent my liscence to buy something fun, I hadda retrofit my lectric
>drum kit with Roland Vdrum mesh heads. even used, 4 of them was almost
>500 bucks. Yeeesh.
>
>have you seen this?
>
>groteguitar.com
>
>I dont know anybody that has one... I wonder if they're any good. Its
>amazing that they are so brazen as to use the Gibson and Fender logos
>when its clear, they're pirates.
>
>got four movie passes, took the family to see Avatar. Pretty kewl.
Ha, my wife bought movie passes for our cousins, and with every 25
bucks you spend, you get a free pass. She got four free ones, and we
went to see Avatar, too. That was a cool movie, although once again
the humans are the bad guys. She bought me an Avatar shirt because it
was the name of one of my high school bands...
lab~rat >:-)
puked:
>On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 08:35:40 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net>
>wrote:
>
>
>>>got four movie passes, took the family to see Avatar. Pretty kewl.
>>
>>Ha, my wife bought movie passes for our cousins, and with every 25
>>bucks you spend, you get a free pass. She got four free ones, and we
>>went to see Avatar, too. That was a cool movie, although once again
>>the humans are the bad guys.
>
>
>yeah, well, that shouldnt surprise anybody. Its Hollywhorewood, which
>is decidedly liberal. Even more politically correct, anybody notice
>how all the really bad capitalist pigs were all white guys? Heh. Was
>there any doubt in anybodys mind going in, that the indians would
>triumph over the cowboys, and the lead cowboy would make the final
>transformation to indian, at the end?
>
>predictable but still fun, the effects were great.
>
>
The only complaint I had about it was that the 3d wasn't that great.
Granted, I've seen a lot of the simpler CGI kids' movies and I imagine
the contrast is easier without the minutia of bees flying and whatnot,
but the overall result was stunning.
El Jefe
> yeah, well, that shouldnt surprise anybody. Its Hollywhorewood, which
> is decidedly liberal. Even more politically correct, anybody notice
> how all the really bad capitalist pigs were all white guys? Heh. Was
> there any doubt in anybodys mind going in, that the indians would
> triumph over the cowboys, and the lead cowboy would make the final
> transformation to indian, at the end?
>
> predictable but still fun, the effects were great.
Leave it to tard like you to find a "liberal agenda" in a movie about
blue aliens fighting a mercenary militia.
El Jefe
M'Balz Es-Hari
You should give napster a try.
$5 a month & that includes 5 free downloads.
Pay $60 for the year & get 70 free downloads.
lab~rat >:-)
<spaci...@yahoo.com> puked:
Seriously, you didn't see it? The plot was littered with references
to deforestation, global warming, stealing natural resources from
others, "you're with us or against us"...
You'd have to be a tard NOT to see it.
El Jefe
> Seriously, you didn't see it? The plot was littered with references
> to deforestation, global warming, stealing natural resources from
> others, "you're with us or against us"...
>
> You'd have to be a tard NOT to see it.
It's an archetypal story -- we've seen the basic gist of it many times
before -- and it's popcorn entertainment.
Besides, Cameron made a totally conservative film you may have heard
about -- Titanic. You know, the one where a bunch of poor people are
essentially sacrificed so the rich can save themselves?
No way he's got a liberal agenda.
/sarcasm
El Jefe
lab~rat >:-)
<spaci...@yahoo.com> puked:
>On Jan 7, 5:07ÔøΩam, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote:
>
>> Seriously, you didn't see it? ÔøΩThe plot was littered with references
>> to deforestation, global warming, stealing natural resources from
>> others, "you're with us or against us"...
>>
>> You'd have to be a tard NOT to see it.
>
>It's an archetypal story -- we've seen the basic gist of it many times
>before -- and it's popcorn entertainment.
>
>Besides, Cameron made a totally conservative film you may have heard
>about -- Titanic. You know, the one where a bunch of poor people are
>essentially sacrificed so the rich can save themselves?
>
>No way he's got a liberal agenda.
So were you supposed to feel sorry for the poor people?
You probably aren't too familiar with Cameron if you think he doesn't
have an anti-war, anti-police, anti-military, anti-establishment
agenda. Check out IMDB and get back to me with the conservative
movies he's put out.
FVH
rmak time posting about Jefe and FVH, 2 posters you claim to ignore.
You're almost as bad as AJ.
FVH
He's privy to government inelegance Obama can't bring himself to
acknowledge. -AJ, grammar queen
10 years ago your posts were better written and your grammar was
better than what they are now.-AJ.
Yeah it would be hard to imagine millions of new jobs and a tough
bitch that wouldn't take any shit instead of a loser that bows to any
lesser
I wouldn't waste my time spitting on.-AJ, political expert
Pssst. Obama has been president for 7 years and you suck at math.-AJ,
2009
I'd rather speak American.-AJ, language expert
LOL! I doubt imergration is reading your posts.-Speeling bea
chaump, AJ.
McCain wins 2008 Election.This is what will be printed on every
newspaper next week. Wait and see.-AJ, proving that he's an idiot.
our new commander and chief.- AJ, talking politics.
Stadiums have no walls!- AJ
*Geeks with key boards aren't intimidating.-AJ
Twinkle Toes Stanley hadn't quite picked up that Lick It Up/
Heaven's On Fire half a ballerina dance that he does.- db
How many times can the Greed Twins milk a cow? As many times as the
sheep will let them.-db
On Jan 7, 8:33 am, Moonpie <mr_rc_moon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> what else do you expect from Jefe? His post above, is exactly the sort
> of retarded personal attacks that I've come to expect from him, and
> therefore, there's no reason to even bother to read or respond.
Broncofan
wrote:
>On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 11:49:28 -0500, Moonpie <mr_rc_...@gmail.com>
>puked:
>
>>
>>
>>Anybody get anything groovy?
>>
>>I got a new guitar and Frehleys Anamoly.
>>
>
>Cordless sawzall, 2hp pump for my pool waterfall and license to buy
>something fun. I'm trying to decide which mistress gets a present (by
>mistress, I mean my music interest, car interest or astronomy
>interest).
>
>What kind of guitar did ya get?
Astronomy? DO TELL!!!
I would love to hear all about it.
One of my goals in life is to look through a large telescope.
I have never looked through one of any kind.
El Jefe
> So were you supposed to feel sorry for the poor people?
>
> You probably aren't too familiar with Cameron if you think he doesn't
> have an anti-war, anti-police, anti-military, anti-establishment
> agenda. Check out IMDB and get back to me with the conservative
> movies he's put out.
I don't watch movies looking for a political message -- I watch them
for entertainment. My take on Avatar was that it was more
philosophical than political. Mostly I just really liked the visuals.
*shrug*
I read an article earlier this year that tried to make its case for
The Dark Knight being a "conservative film". The writer claimed that
Batman = Bush, in that Batman had to go around the law in his pursuit
of the Joker (who can't possibly be a stand in for OBL, because Batman
actually catches him in the end). But it was all OK because, just like
Bush, Batman kept us safe. And like Bush, Batman accepted the hatred
of the people and press willingly and nobly in order to get the job
done.
I mean, really.
Can people not put aside 2 hours to enjoy a film without getting
worked up over a supposed political meaning? I guess if Hollywood is
constantly pushing a liberal agenda, certain people should stay home
and watch their Rambo movies over and over again. Maybe throw Top Gun
in once in awhile so as not to get burned out.
I'll also note that this movie was put out by 20th Century Fox, and
that Murdoch stated he was "excited and moved" by it. Does that mean
that Fox is supporting a liberal agenda?
El Jefe
El Jefe
> > what else do you expect from Jefe? His post above, is exactly the sort
> > of retarded personal attacks that I've come to expect from him, and
> > therefore, there's no reason to even bother to read or respond.
On Jan 7, 11:11 am, FVH <fvhisgr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Then why are you reading and responding to it? You spend all of your
> rmak time posting about Jefe and FVH, 2 posters you claim to ignore.
> You're almost as bad as AJ.
He responds because he's a hypocrite. He reads everything we post, but
thinks that just because he doesn't respond to it all, he can fool
everyone here into thinking he's ignoring us.
How many times has he swooped into a thread to attack me? This is the
douche noodle that constantly calls me an asshole, El Hypocrite, and
other completely humorless names. Yet he wants to play the "innocent
guy" role once again. Just more hypocrisy from the king.
> You're almost as bad as AJ.
I actually think he's worse. At least AJ's stupidity gets some laughs.
Meat Seeker isn't even good enough at being dumb to do that.
El Jefe
FVH
It's not too bad, but I'm not a big download guy. The only time I buy
music is if something new catches my ear, and that hasn't happened in
ages. I was going to buy Ace's new CD digitally, but I ended up buying
the hard copy because I had to have the liner notes. Very old school
of me, I know.
FVH
10 years ago your posts were better written and your grammar was
better than what they are now.-AJ.
Yeah it would be hard to imagine millions of new jobs and a tough
bitch
that wouldn't take any shit instead of a loser that bows to any lesser
I wouldn't waste my time spitting on.-AJ, political expert
Pssst. Obama has been president for 7 years and you suck at math.-AJ,
2009
I'd rather speak American.-AJ, language expert
LOL! I doubt imergration is reading your posts.-Speeling bea
chaump, AJ.
Dance, essay-AJ, El Baboso
McCain wins 2008 Election.This is what will be printed on every
newspaper next week. Wait and see.-AJ, proving that he's an idiot.
our new commander and chief.- AJ, talking politics.
Stadiums have no walls!- AJ
*Geeks with key boards aren't intimidating.-AJ
You made a boneheaded 'observation' about Ace, and you're a fool.
That's pretty much it.- Hidell, making a brilliant point about AJ.
Twinkle Toes Stanley hadn't quite picked up that Lick It Up/
Heaven's On Fire half a ballerina dance that he does.- db
How many times can the Greed Twins milk a cow? As many times as the
sheep will let them.-db
FVH
> One of my goals in life is to look through a large telescope.
I bet you say that to all the guys, Twinkle Toes.
> I have never looked through one of any kind.
I'm sure you've heard that a number of times from your Uncle. Am I
right?
FVH
reading that correctly? I agree with Jefe, just enjoy the movie.
Everything isn't a "message" or "agenda". Do you have this mindset
with music as well? What about a concert you're attending? Just
curious.
I can't believe we are calling Avatar a "liberal agenda" movie. You're
doing a bit, right?
FVH
10 years ago your posts were better written and your grammar was
better than what they are now.-AJ.
Yeah it would be hard to imagine millions of new jobs and a tough
bitch
that wouldn't take any shit instead of a loser that bows to any lesser
I wouldn't waste my time spitting on.-AJ, political expert
Pssst. Obama has been president for 7 years and you suck at math.-AJ,
2009
I'd rather speak American.-AJ, language expert
LOL! I doubt imergration is reading your posts.-Speeling bea
chaump, AJ.
Dance, essay-AJ, El Baboso
McCain wins 2008 Election.This is what will be printed on every
newspaper next week. Wait and see.-AJ, proving that he's an idiot.
our new commander and chief.- AJ, talking politics.
Stadiums have no walls!- AJ
*Geeks with key boards aren't intimidating.-AJ
You made a boneheaded 'observation' about Ace, and you're a fool.
That's pretty much it.- Hidell, making a brilliant point about AJ.
Twinkle Toes Stanley hadn't quite picked up that Lick It Up/
Heaven's On Fire half a ballerina dance that he does.- db
How many times can the Greed Twins milk a cow? As many times as the
sheep will let them.-db
FVH
> He responds because he's a hypocrite. He reads everything we post, but
> thinks that just because he doesn't respond to it all, he can fool
> everyone here into thinking he's ignoring us.
Ah, the old AJ trick. "Don't reply, then you can claim you're ignoring
them." The funny part about that bit is that they think we actually
fall for that lie. AJ lost that bit anyhow with his admission that he
reads my twitter page. If he's reading that, there's no doubt he reads
every single word I type in here.
> How many times has he swooped into a thread to attack me? This is the
> douche noodle that constantly calls me an asshole, El Hypocrite, and
> other completely humorless names. Yet he wants to play the "innocent
> guy" role once again. Just more hypocrisy from the king.
Yeah, it ruins the illusion if you swoop in with a flame post after
claiming you don't read our posts. And the "innocent victim" bit is
getting old from him and AJ. I'd rather them come out and admit what
they are--trolls. But I'm not holding my breath.
>> You're almost as bad as AJ.
> I actually think he's worse. At least AJ's stupidity gets some laughs.
> Meat Seeker isn't even good enough at being dumb to do that.
Good point. AJ is pure comedy for me, and I suspect most of rmak.
Moonpie is just an idiot. I do get a kick out of his denials, but I
don't laugh out loud like I do with AJ's bullshit. Moonpie likes to
stir shit up, them claim he's just an innocent bystander. Bull-fucking-
shit.
FVH
10 years ago your posts were better written and your grammar was
better than what they are now.-AJ.
Yeah it would be hard to imagine millions of new jobs and a tough
bitch
that wouldn't take any shit instead of a loser that bows to any lesser
I wouldn't waste my time spitting on.-AJ, political expert
Pssst. Obama has been president for 7 years and you suck at math.-AJ,
2009
I'd rather speak American.-AJ, language expert
LOL! I doubt imergration is reading your posts.-Speeling bea
chaump, AJ.
Dance, essay-AJ, El Baboso
McCain wins 2008 Election.This is what will be printed on every
newspaper next week. Wait and see.-AJ, proving that he's an idiot.
our new commander and chief.- AJ, talking politics.
Stadiums have no walls!- AJ
*Geeks with key boards aren't intimidating.-AJ
You made a boneheaded 'observation' about Ace, and you're a fool.
That's pretty much it.- Hidell, making a brilliant point about AJ.
El Jefe
> So when you watch a movie, lab, you look for political agendas? Am I
> reading that correctly? I agree with Jefe, just enjoy the movie.
> Everything isn't a "message" or "agenda". Do you have this mindset
> with music as well? What about a concert you're attending? Just
> curious.
>
> I can't believe we are calling Avatar a "liberal agenda" movie. You're
> doing a bit, right?
If you look hard enough, you'll find what you want to find. I said
that Titanic was a "conservative" movie in jest, but honestly, you
*could* read into the sacrificing the poor for the rich thing if you
really wanted to.
Cameron directed True Lies I believe, and if memory serves, the main
villain was an Arab. Ooh, another conservative, pro-America movie!
Hey, how about Signs? Gibson takes on and defeats illegal aliens!
These colors don't run!
It's so stupid.
El Jefe
FVH
obvious agendas with their films, but I seriously doubt movies like
Avatar are based on a "liberal" or, for that matter, "conservative"
agenda. I'm floored that people actually believe that. How naive of me
to assume entertainment was the one thing that was safe from all of
that bullshit.
FVH
10 years ago your posts were better written and your grammar was
better than what they are now.-AJ.
Yeah it would be hard to imagine millions of new jobs and a tough
bitch
that wouldn't take any shit instead of a loser that bows to any lesser
I wouldn't waste my time spitting on.-AJ, political expert
Pssst. Obama has been president for 7 years and you suck at math.-AJ,
2009
I'd rather speak American.-AJ, language expert
LOL! I doubt imergration is reading your posts.-Speeling bea
chaump, AJ.
Dance, essay-AJ, El Baboso
McCain wins 2008 Election.This is what will be printed on every
newspaper next week. Wait and see.-AJ, proving that he's an idiot.
our new commander and chief.- AJ, talking politics.
Stadiums have no walls!- AJ
*Geeks with key boards aren't intimidating.-AJ
You made a boneheaded 'observation' about Ace, and you're a fool.
That's pretty much it.- Hidell, making a brilliant point about AJ.
Twinkle Toes Stanley hadn't quite picked up that Lick It Up/
Heaven's On Fire half a ballerina dance that he does.- db
How many times can the Greed Twins milk a cow? As many times as the
sheep will let them.-db
lab~rat >:-)
<spaci...@yahoo.com> puked:
>On Jan 7, 6:40ÔøΩam, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote:
>
>> So were you supposed to feel sorry for the poor people?
>>
>> You probably aren't too familiar with Cameron if you think he doesn't
>> have an anti-war, anti-police, anti-military, anti-establishment
>> agenda. ÔøΩCheck out IMDB and get back to me with the conservative
>> movies he's put out.
>
>I don't watch movies looking for a political message -- I watch them
>for entertainment. My take on Avatar was that it was more
>philosophical than political. Mostly I just really liked the visuals.
>*shrug*
>
>I read an article earlier this year that tried to make its case for
>The Dark Knight being a "conservative film". The writer claimed that
>Batman = Bush, in that Batman had to go around the law in his pursuit
>of the Joker (who can't possibly be a stand in for OBL, because Batman
>actually catches him in the end). But it was all OK because, just like
>Bush, Batman kept us safe. And like Bush, Batman accepted the hatred
>of the people and press willingly and nobly in order to get the job
>done.
>
>I mean, really.
>
>Can people not put aside 2 hours to enjoy a film without getting
>worked up over a supposed political meaning? I guess if Hollywood is
>constantly pushing a liberal agenda, certain people should stay home
>and watch their Rambo movies over and over again. Maybe throw Top Gun
>in once in awhile so as not to get burned out.
>
>I'll also note that this movie was put out by 20th Century Fox, and
>that Murdoch stated he was "excited and moved" by it. Does that mean
>that Fox is supporting a liberal agenda?
>
>El Jefe
Some of us get more out of movies than just the pretty pictures. That
shit doesn't ruin the movie for me, but it does confirm the obvious
fact that Hollywood by and large has a liberal agenda.
Oh, and PS, I didn't think that Rambo was particularly conservative.
Just sayin'...
lab~rat >:-)
puked:
>So when you watch a movie, lab, you look for political agendas? Am I
>reading that correctly? I agree with Jefe, just enjoy the movie.
>Everything isn't a "message" or "agenda". Do you have this mindset
>with music as well? What about a concert you're attending? Just
>curious.
>
>I can't believe we are calling Avatar a "liberal agenda" movie. You're
>doing a bit, right?
Seriously, this is exactly the reason I dumb down all my shit in this
group. Do you people really just mindlessly watch movies and don't
think about the messages? I'm surprised to hear there are actually
people like that out there.
lab~rat >:-)
<spaci...@yahoo.com> puked:
>On Jan 7, 11:08ÔøΩpm, FVH <fvhisgr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> So when you watch a movie, lab, you look for political agendas? Am I
>> reading that correctly? I agree with Jefe, just enjoy the movie.
>> Everything isn't a "message" or "agenda". Do you have this mindset
>> with music as well? What about a concert you're attending? Just
>> curious.
>>
>> I can't believe we are calling Avatar a "liberal agenda" movie. You're
>> doing a bit, right?
>
>If you look hard enough, you'll find what you want to find. I said
>that Titanic was a "conservative" movie in jest, but honestly, you
>*could* read into the sacrificing the poor for the rich thing if you
>really wanted to.
>
>Cameron directed True Lies I believe, and if memory serves, the main
>villain was an Arab. Ooh, another conservative, pro-America movie!
Wait, are you saying that liberals are on the Arab's side? What a
shock!
>
>Hey, how about Signs? Gibson takes on and defeats illegal aliens!
>These colors don't run!
>
>It's so stupid.
>
>El Jefe
--
lab~rat >:-)
puked:
>Guys like Michael Moore, and to a lesser extent, Oliver Stone have
>obvious agendas with their films, but I seriously doubt movies like
>Avatar are based on a "liberal" or, for that matter, "conservative"
>agenda. I'm floored that people actually believe that. How naive of me
>to assume entertainment was the one thing that was safe from all of
>that bullshit.
Since this discussion, I googled Avatar liberal propaganda. Do it
yourself just for fun...
steveh99
ch...@cheeze.net says...
Some people actually go see movies to be entertained
lab~rat >:-)
It's something that I did a lot of before kids. Astrophotography,
actually. I have a Meade LX-200, but the electronics died on it
sometime in the last few years. They stopped repairing them, but the
astronomy club I used to belong to said they could probably fix it
from some old parts. The optics are still fine, but it doesn't track
and the computerized locator doesn't work.
mss
> Ah, the old AJ trick. "Don't reply, then you can claim
> you're ignoring them."
Bingo.
--
later on,
Mike
Alexis Machine
> Hey, how about Signs? Gibson takes on and defeats illegal aliens!
> These colors don't run!
>
> It's so stupid.
The Speedy Gonzales cartoons were derogatory towards Mexicans.
Bugs Bunny dressing like a woman to entice Elmer Fudd or whoever was an overt
liberal Hollywood nod to homosexuality.
El Jefe
> Some of us get more out of movies than just the pretty pictures. That
> shit doesn't ruin the movie for me, but it does confirm the obvious
> fact that Hollywood by and large has a liberal agenda.
>
> Oh, and PS, I didn't think that Rambo was particularly conservative.
> Just sayin'...
You see what you want to see, nothing more.
El Jefe
lab~rat >:-)
<n...@email.you.moron> puked:
And ET was an allegory to Jesus Christ. And to some extent, Catholic
priests when he was poking the kids with that big red bulbous
finger...
lab~rat >:-)
puked:
I dig that. Are you saying that the messages of the films aren't
entertaining? I mean, if you want to sit there for two hours and
watch blue humanoid cats bounce around the screen and a bunch of
explosions, good for you. That's the level at which you're
entertained.
Don't begrudge the thinking audience of listening to, and analyzing,
the message...
El Jefe
> Since this discussion, I googled Avatar liberal propaganda. Do it
> yourself just for fun...
LOL - for fuck's sake, you people manage to find boogeymen everywhere
you look, don't you?
Yes indeed, liberals, Hollywood, and the extremely remote chance that
a terrorist will kill you (you're 10X more likely to die from being
struck by lightening) are the true evils in America today. Be afraid
everyone!
El Jefe
El Jefe
> Seriously, this is exactly the reason I dumb down all my shit in this
> group. Do you people really just mindlessly watch movies and don't
> think about the messages? I'm surprised to hear there are actually
> people like that out there.
So every movie has a "message" to you? Maybe you need to lighten up
and just enjoy popcorn entertainment for what it is.
How many people that have seen this movie do you really think are
walking out of it being totally indoctrinated to a supposedly liberal
agenda? They're not. They're going because it's in 3D/for the visual
effects.
You can't possibly dumb down your shit, because it's already as dumb
as it gets.
El Jefe
mss
> You see what you want to see, nothing more.
Pearls before swine...
--
later on,
Mike
El Jefe
> And ET was an allegory to Jesus Christ. And to some extent, Catholic
> priests when he was poking the kids with that big red bulbous
> finger...
Hey, how about Casablanca? An American outwits the Nazis *and* tosses
aside his foreigner girlfriend. Two wins for the price of one!
El Jefe
lab~rat >:-)
<spaci...@yahoo.com> puked:
>On Jan 8, 4:14ÔøΩam, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote:
>
>> Some of us get more out of movies than just the pretty pictures. ÔøΩThat
>> shit doesn't ruin the movie for me, but it does confirm the obvious
>> fact that Hollywood by and large has a liberal agenda.
>>
>> Oh, and PS, I didn't think that Rambo was particularly conservative.
>> Just sayin'...
>
>You see what you want to see, nothing more.
>
>El Jefe
That's ridiculous. These guys like Cameron craft a movie for ten
years and you're trying to tell me that the allegories between
unobtanium and some valued element on earth (take a guess) is
coincidental? The destruction of a planet and it's jungle inhabitants
for it's resources has no basis in reality? The almost verbatim
recital of "you're with us or you're against us"? The quasi-military
organization going a step over the line?
I remember when I used to watch movies and just take what is displayed
in front of me as the entire value of the entertainment. I guess it
was around high school or so when we started analyzing the classics in
class and movies as well when I realized that most movies have more to
them than just explosions and people walking around. Maybe you should
open your eyes to it. It's quite revealing...
lab~rat >:-)
<spaci...@yahoo.com> puked:
>On Jan 8, 4:19ÔøΩam, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote:
>
>> Since this discussion, I googled Avatar liberal propaganda. ÔøΩDo it
>> yourself just for fun...
>
>LOL - for fuck's sake, you people manage to find boogeymen everywhere
>you look, don't you?
>
>Yes indeed, liberals, Hollywood, and the extremely remote chance that
>a terrorist will kill you (you're 10X more likely to die from being
>struck by lightening) are the true evils in America today. Be afraid
>everyone!
>
>El Jefe
All I did was proved that there IS a liberal slant to the movie. It
never hurts to open your eyes.
So let's take politics out of it for now. I'm a General Contractor,
and you know what I'm sick and tired of? Every Contractor in every
movie being portrayed as a scum bag that wants to fuck over a client,
pave over a rainforest, destroy a daycare to erect a condominium, etc.
Jesus Christ, if it weren't for GC's, there wouldn't be a fucking
place to view a godam movie.
And how come every movie for the past ten years has the black smart
good guy and the white evil guy and the white dumb good guy that tries
to help out the smart black good guy? And where are all these white
terrorists in real life?
That's the political correctness bleeding into the movies.
And I've noticed that there used to be a lot more movies and tv shows
about hot chicks that kick ass, not so much anymore.
lab~rat >:-)
<spaci...@yahoo.com> puked:
>On Jan 8, 5:36ÔøΩam, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote:
>
>> And ET was an allegory to Jesus Christ. ÔøΩAnd to some extent, Catholic
>> priests when he was poking the kids with that big red bulbous
>> finger...
>
>Hey, how about Casablanca? An American outwits the Nazis *and* tosses
>aside his foreigner girlfriend. Two wins for the price of one!
>
>El Jefe
I was pretty impressed that they made The Wizard of Oz to conform to a
yet to be released Dark Side of the Moon...
lab~rat >:-)
<spaci...@yahoo.com> puked:
>On Jan 8, 4:17ÔøΩam, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote:
>
>> Seriously, this is exactly the reason I dumb down all my shit in this
>> group. ÔøΩDo you people really just mindlessly watch movies and don't
>> think about the messages? ÔøΩI'm surprised to hear there are actually
>> people like that out there.
>
>So every movie has a "message" to you? Maybe you need to lighten up
>and just enjoy popcorn entertainment for what it is.
I think most movies have a message unless they're gonzo porn. What
movie do you think DOESN'T have a message? If they don't have an
overt message, they're in there scene by scene.
>How many people that have seen this movie do you really think are
>walking out of it being totally indoctrinated to a supposedly liberal
>agenda? They're not. They're going because it's in 3D/for the visual
>effects.
I don't think someone walks in there a conservative and walks out a
liberal, but I think most people are exposed to it and don't realize
it, you're one, for example. And I don't think that Cameron was out
to change the world's thinking with the movie, but the elements were
decidedly liberal. It's the cumulative bombardment of the messages
that subliminally enter one's consciousness.
Maybe it's unintended (in this case), but the net result is the same.
>
>You can't possibly dumb down your shit, because it's already as dumb
>as it gets.
You don't believe that for a minute.
lab~rat >:-)
>El Jefe wrote:
>
>> You see what you want to see, nothing more.
>
>Pearls before swine...
Look, guys, if I were here pointing out a conservative message in a
movie, would you be as insulting?
mss
> Look, guys, if I were here pointing out a conservative message in a
> movie, would you be as insulting?
Never said anything about politics lr. Who keeps pointing out
what they think is there?
Why in blazes do some of you insist in a futile attempt to boil
everything down to left/right, good/evil, blond/brunette?
The message is: Sometimes its just movie... Hello?
--
later on,
Mike
El Jefe
> On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 05:44:08 -0800 (PST), El Jefe
> I think most movies have a message unless they're gonzo porn. What
> movie do you think DOESN'T have a message? If they don't have an
> overt message, they're in there scene by scene.
Um, for starters...just about every comedy?
Honestly, I think there's too much confusion here about messages and
stories.
> I don't think someone walks in there a conservative and walks out a
> liberal, but I think most people are exposed to it and don't realize
> it, you're one, for example.
Nice try. I've been around long enough to not be swayed in any way by
seeing a movie. Like I said: popcorn entertainment.
> And I don't think that Cameron was out
> to change the world's thinking with the movie, but the elements were
> decidedly liberal. It's the cumulative bombardment of the messages
> that subliminally enter one's consciousness.
You mean, it's kinda like how if enough pundits keep saying that Obama
was born in Kenya, or is a Muslim, or a commie, or hates
America...eventually others will believe it because they've been
bombarded with the messages?
Gotcha.
> You don't believe that for a minute.
Didn't take me more than a second *to* believe it. Some people look
for boogeymen wherever and whenever they can -- like you, AJ, and 83.
El Jefe
lab~rat >:-)
<spaci...@yahoo.com> puked:
>On Jan 8, 6:53ÔøΩam, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 05:44:08 -0800 (PST), El Jefe
>
>> I think most movies have a message unless they're gonzo porn. ÔøΩWhat
>> movie do you think DOESN'T have a message? ÔøΩIf they don't have an
>> overt message, they're in there scene by scene.
>
>Um, for starters...just about every comedy?
>
>Honestly, I think there's too much confusion here about messages and
>stories.
Just so we don't get hung up in generalities, do you want to list a
few specifics or is that out of the question?
>
>> I don't think someone walks in there a conservative and walks out a
>> liberal, but I think most people are exposed to it and don't realize
>> it, you're one, for example.
>
>Nice try. I've been around long enough to not be swayed in any way by
>seeing a movie. Like I said: popcorn entertainment.
Far be it from me to accuse you of being swayed by seeing a movie.
All I said was that you were exposed to it. You didn't realize it,
but you were.
>
>> And I don't think that Cameron was out
>> to change the world's thinking with the movie, but the elements were
>> decidedly liberal. ÔøΩIt's the cumulative bombardment of the messages
>> that subliminally enter one's consciousness.
>
>You mean, it's kinda like how if enough pundits keep saying that Obama
>was born in Kenya, or is a Muslim, or a commie, or hates
>America...eventually others will believe it because they've been
>bombarded with the messages?
>
>Gotcha.
Exactly like that. Like how they would repeat over and over how
legislation HAS to be passed immediately or the world would come to an
end (Bush and Obama). Some people fall for that.
>
>> You don't believe that for a minute.
>
>Didn't take me more than a second *to* believe it.
To believe what?
>Some people look
>for boogeymen wherever and whenever they can -- like you, AJ, and 83.
You're drawing battle lines over the obvious fact that there were
liberal messages in a movie? You're a little tightly wound, dontcha
think?
lab~rat >:-)
Sometimes, but not in this case.
Not to be a dick and belabor this, but take a look at this link:
I'm thinking if you listen to the video of Cameron this will probably
be the last post on this subject. If you're too lazy to go to the
link, he clearly points out that there is a message in the film about
destroying the planet as we are doing, which happens to be the current
liberal battle call.
Sorry I didn't find this sooner, it would have saved you all a lot of
effort and a little face trying to pretend that Cameron didn't put a
liberal message in his movie purposely.
VIEIRA: Yeah there's a love story and also there's a message about,
you know, greed and when people want a lot of things, imperialism. All
of that.
CAMERON: And how that tends to destroy the environment and so on. And
here they are doing the same thing on another pristine planet that
we've done here on earth. So it's a way, sort of looking back at
ourselves from this other world and seeing what we're doing here.
And sometimes a pickle is just a pickle, don't let it worry ya...
83LowRider
"lab~rat >:-)" wrote
<snip>
Sometimes, they just drag ya in.. :op
El Jefe
> Not to be a dick and belabor this, but take a look at this link:
>
> http://newsbusters.org/blogs/geoffrey-dickens/2009/12/14/today-james-...
>
> I'm thinking if you listen to the video of Cameron this will probably
> be the last post on this subject. If you're too lazy to go to the
> link, he clearly points out that there is a message in the film about
> destroying the planet as we are doing, which happens to be the current
> liberal battle call.
>
> Sorry I didn't find this sooner, it would have saved you all a lot of
> effort and a little face trying to pretend that Cameron didn't put a
> liberal message in his movie purposely.
>
> VIEIRA: Yeah there's a love story and also there's a message about,
> you know, greed and when people want a lot of things, imperialism. All
> of that.
>
> CAMERON: And how that tends to destroy the environment and so on. And
> here they are doing the same thing on another pristine planet that
> we've done here on earth. So it's a way, sort of looking back at
> ourselves from this other world and seeing what we're doing here.
>
> And sometimes a pickle is just a pickle, don't let it worry ya...
I already saw that interview, and what he said the story is about is a
far cry from being an anti-American, anti-military message as you
inferred in an earlier post.
But hey, believe what you want.
El Jefe
El Jefe
> You're drawing battle lines over the obvious fact that there were
> liberal messages in a movie? You're a little tightly wound, dontcha
> think?
I'm not drawing "battle lines" -- it's a movie, for fuck's sake.
Entertainment. Nothing more.
I'm just amazed at the number of tards who seek out an evil "liberal
agenda" in every little thing. You want to talk about tight - when
those kinds of people fart, only dogs can hear it.
El Jefe
El Jefe
I expect paragraphs worth of bullshit from you at this point -- only 6
words? You're slackin'!
El Jefe
mss
> Sorry I didn't find this sooner, it would have saved you all a lot of
> effort and a little face trying to pretend that Cameron didn't put a
> liberal message in his movie purposely.
Nothing to be sorry about man (you see what you see, that's your
right).
Saving the planet is not a liberal message (tho you're correct in
assuming liberals more so than other groups espouse that cause).
Now why is that? Maybe because 'they' know we've only got a single
planet to work with? What say you lr? Doesn't preserving ol' mother
earth make sense? In fact, doesn't that really transcend left/right?
Now as far as any message is concerned, this in my mind, is a 'quip'
or 'jab' from the writers of the movie for the sake of - fun - being
that its fiction, who in the world do they think they'll sway? If we
attach more than entertainent value to it, then maybe that's faulty
reasoning. For instance, Would you tell another:
'The best source of information on the topic is movie x' ???
--
later on,
Mike
steveh99
@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com>, spaci...@yahoo.com says...
Most people go to see a movie because they want to be entertained not
informed as diehard libtard or elephants asses getting subliminal
political messages
AJ
> On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 23:08:49 -0800 (PST), FVH <fvhisgr...@gmail.com>
> puked:
>
> >So when you watch a movie, lab, you look for political agendas? Am I
> >reading that correctly? I agree with Jefe, just enjoy the movie.
> >Everything isn't a "message" or "agenda". Do you have this mindset
> >with music as well? What about a concert you're attending? Just
> >curious.
>
> >I can't believe we are calling Avatar a "liberal agenda" movie. You're
> >doing a bit, right?
>
> group.
Amen, I know where you are coming from.
�Do you people really just mindlessly watch movies and don't
> think about the messages?
Not me.
�I'm surprised to hear there are actually
> people like that out there.
Welcome to RMAK, where everything is askew and right now 90% of this
group is looking up the word askew to see what it means and checking
if I used it correctly in this sentence. ;-)
AJ
> On Jan 8, 4:17�am, "lab~rat �>:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote:
>
> > Seriously, this is exactly the reason I dumb down all my shit in this
> > group. �Do you people really just mindlessly watch movies and don't
> > think about the messages? �I'm surprised to hear there are actually
> > people like that out there.
>
> So every movie has a "message" to you?
Name one that doesn't.
AJ
> On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 13:45:05 +0000 (UTC), mss <m...@dev.null> puked:
>
> >El Jefe wrote:
>
> >> You see what you want to see, nothing more.
>
> >Pearls before swine...
>
> Look, guys, if I were here pointing out a conservative message in a
> movie, would you be as insulting?
Good point. Even conservative actors have to pretend to be liberal in
Hollywood to get work, because of the powers to be are liberals.
Pyro Messiah
wrote:
>On Jan 8, 7:17?am, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote:
>> On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 23:08:49 -0800 (PST), FVH <fvhisgr...@gmail.com>
>> puked:
>>
>> >So when you watch a movie, lab, you look for political agendas? Am I
>> >reading that correctly? I agree with Jefe, just enjoy the movie.
>> >Everything isn't a "message" or "agenda". Do you have this mindset
>> >with music as well? What about a concert you're attending? Just
>> >curious.
>>
>> >I can't believe we are calling Avatar a "liberal agenda" movie. You're
>> >doing a bit, right?
>>
>> Seriously, this is exactly the reason I dumb down all my shit in this
>> group.
>
>Amen, I know where you are coming from.
>
>?Do you people really just mindlessly watch movies and don't
>> think about the messages?
>
>Not me.
>
> ?I'm surprised to hear there are actually
>> people like that out there.
>
>
>Welcome to RMAK, where everything is askew and right now 90% of this
>group is looking up the word askew to see what it means and checking
>if I used it correctly in this sentence. ;-)
Most Kevin Smith fans should already know it by this point. :)
83LowRider
"El Jefe" wrote
> I expect paragraphs worth of bullshit from you at this point -- only 6
> words? You're slackin'!
When speaking politics, the far left tend to blow off the facts, so
I tend to throw out tons of support for my position. When the one
I'm debating is of the mindset that the mainstream media 'leans
right'.. then I have to come to realize I'm simply beating my head
against a wall.
Alexis Machine
> I was pretty impressed that they made The Wizard of Oz to conform to a
> yet to be released Dark Side of the Moon...
Amazing!
FVH
>> Seriously, this is exactly the reason I dumb down all my shit in this group.
> Amen, I know where you are coming from.
LOL!!! Do share with the ng your (snicker) intelligence, Killer. I'll
be damned--Killer's been holding back on us!
> Welcome to RMAK, where everything is askew and right now 90% of this group is looking up the word askew to see what it means and checking if I used it correctly in this sentence. ;-)
Nice try, Killer, but as usual you failed:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/askew
a⋅skew
/əˈskyu/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [uh-skyoo]
–adverb
1. to one side; out of line; in a crooked position; awry: to wear
one's hat askew; to hang a picture askew.
2. with disapproval, scorn, contempt, etc.; disdainfully: They looked
askew at the painting.
–adjective
3. crooked; awry: Your clothes are all askew.
FVH
10 years ago your posts were better written and your grammar was
better than what they are now.-AJ.
Yeah it would be hard to imagine millions of new jobs and a tough
bitch
that wouldn't take any shit instead of a loser that bows to any lesser
I wouldn't waste my time spitting on.-AJ, political expert
Pssst. Obama has been president for 7 years and you suck at math.-AJ,
2009
I'd rather speak American.-AJ, language expert
LOL! I doubt imergration is reading your posts.-Speeling bea
chaump, AJ.
Dance, essay-AJ, El Baboso
McCain wins 2008 Election.This is what will be printed on every
newspaper next week. Wait and see.-AJ, proving that he's an idiot.
our new commander and chief.- AJ, talking politics.
Stadiums have no walls!- AJ
*Geeks with key boards aren't intimidating.-AJ
You made a boneheaded 'observation' about Ace, and you're a fool.
That's pretty much it.- Hidell, making a brilliant point about AJ.
Twinkle Toes Stanley hadn't quite picked up that Lick It Up/
Heaven's On Fire half a ballerina dance that he does.- db
How many times can the Greed Twins milk a cow? As many times as the
sheep will let them.-db
El Jefe
> Name one that doesn't.
Does the typical comedy film have a "message"? Does a typical horror
film? Musical?
For fuck's sake, there are *tons* of movies that exist purely for
entertainment. How ignorant do you have to be to believe otherwise?
El Jefe
El Jefe
> When speaking politics, the far left tend to blow off the facts,
Only the far left blow off facts? Your bias is, once again, showing
through.
> so
> I tend to throw out tons of support for my position.
Except, of course, that you don't. Polls are not facts, and posting
articles that are over a year old and don't even have anything to do
with the subject being discussed do very little to support the idea
that you're well informed *or* correct.
> When the one
> I'm debating is of the mindset that the mainstream media 'leans
> right'.. then I have to come to realize I'm simply beating my head
> against a wall.
Funny, I feel the same way when the one I'm debating is certain that a
liberal media exists but can't prove it any other way than by posting
polls or using a well debunked "how journalists vote" argument.
El Jefe
El Jefe
> Do you people really just mindlessly watch movies and don't
>
> > think about the messages?
>
> Not me.
Really, Rebel? And what "messages" do you get out of your horror and
she-male movies?
El Jefe
83LowRider
"El Jefe" wrote
> Funny, I feel the same way when the one I'm debating is certain that a
> liberal media exists but can't prove it any other way than by posting
> polls or using a well debunked "how journalists vote" argument.
Name one other way to measure a 'liberal media' than public opinion.
mss
> Polls are not facts
!
This is quite easily the most powerful
thing I've read in this group yet.
--
later on,
Mike
steveh99
@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com>, spaci...@yahoo.com says...
leave it up to them to show you the way
steveh99
2983e4...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, spaci...@yahoo.com says...
LOL what message do people like AJ get from the Rocky Horror Picture
show? Especially when Frankenfurter starts singin "Sweet
Transvestite"...
El Jefe
There is no way to prove such a thing, which might suggest to you that
your assumption is wrong from the start.
Public opinion...really? As I said in an earlier post, had you polled
people back in the day the majority would have believed the world was
flat and the sun revolved around the earth. During the early days of
the Iraq war, a majority believed Iraq had something to do with 9/11.
And you *still* want to put faith in public opinion?
Weak.
Care to address the fact that multiple repubs have stated that they're
simply working the refs when they repeat this tired talking point over
and over again, or will you just gloss over it and/or say "we're done
now"?
El Jefe
El Jefe
Honestly, you would think a well-informed person would understand
this, but when your position is weak from the start, I guess you use
anything you can to defend it.
El Jefe
El Jefe
> LOL what message do people like AJ get from the Rocky Horror Picture
> show? Especially when Frankenfurter starts singin "Sweet
> Transvestite"...
I think the "message" is that his panties get wet.
El Jefe
steveh99
@p8g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, spaci...@yahoo.com says...
LOL I try and picture that but the mind screams DON'T DARE GO THERE!!!!
steveh99
@windstream.net says...
Well his reaction to this question rather
83LowRider
"El Jefe" wrote
>> Name one other way to measure a 'liberal media' than public opinion.
> There is no way to prove such a thing, which might suggest to you that
> your assumption is wrong from the start.
Okay then, I'll say it this way so as to concede your point--
Over 80% of the public sees the mainstream media as liberal.
Very simple statement of FACT.
> Public opinion...really? As I said in an earlier post, had you polled
> people back in the day the majority would have believed the world was
> flat and the sun revolved around the earth.
Sidetrack again.. nothing to do with our conversation
or my initial statement.
> During the early days of the Iraq war, a majority
> believed Iraq had something to do with 9/11.
Where does that come from? I never heard the president
or the press say as much, and again, it has nothing to do with the
topic at hand.
> And you *still* want to put faith in public opinion?
My faith? Certainly not, especially after the last election.
Let's flip it over... give me a single thing which points (as
you claimed) that the mainstream media leans to the right.
> Care to address the fact that multiple repubs have stated that they're
> simply working the refs when they repeat this tired talking point over
> and over again, or will you just gloss over it and/or say "we're done
> now"?
Sidetracking again? I don't speak for 'multiple repub talking heads'..
And I've never said we were done.. I said debating with you is
pointless. You have drank far too much of the kool-aid.
83LowRider
"mss" wrote:
>
>> Polls are not facts
> This is quite easily the most powerful
> thing I've read in this group yet.
Then you are far too easily amused or impressed
there Capt. Obvious.
AJ
You just proved 83lowrider right.
AJ
> On Jan 8, 5:23�pm, AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Name one that doesn't.
>
> Does the typical comedy film have a "message"? Does a typical horror
> film? Musical?
Yes.
>
> For fuck's sake, there are *tons* of movies that exist purely for
> entertainment. How ignorant do you have to be to believe otherwise?
How dumb are you not to see the messages? Pretty damn dumb.
AJ
> In article <6bcb0442-978d-4548-a1a7-
> 2983e4340...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, spacioj...@yahoo.com says...
>
>
>
> > On Jan 8, 5:22�pm, AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > Do you people really just mindlessly watch movies and don't
>
> > > > think about the messages?
>
> > > Not me.
>
> > Really, Rebel? And what "messages" do you get out of your horror and
> > she-male movies?
>
> > El Jefe
>
> LOL what message do people like AJ get from the Rocky Horror Picture
> show? Especially when Frankenfurter starts singin "Sweet
> Transvestite"...
The message is, when you break down and go to someones house to use a
phone and a transvestite pops out, leave.
AJ
Uh dude, you have never won an argument with 83lowrider and you have
the nerve to say his position is weak from the start? LOL! Liberals
are such sore losers.
FVH
FVH
10 years ago your posts were better written and your grammar was
better than what they are now.-AJ.
Yeah it would be hard to imagine millions of new jobs and a tough
bitch
that wouldn't take any shit instead of a loser that bows to any lesser
I wouldn't waste my time spitting on.-AJ, political expert
Pssst. Obama has been president for 7 years and you suck at math.-AJ,
2009
I'd rather speak American.-AJ, language expert
LOL! I doubt imergration is reading your posts.-Speeling bea
chaump, AJ.
Dance, essay-AJ, El Baboso
McCain wins 2008 Election.This is what will be printed on every
newspaper next week. Wait and see.-AJ, proving that he's an idiot.
our new commander and chief.- AJ, talking politics.
Stadiums have no walls!- AJ
*Geeks with key boards aren't intimidating.-AJ
You made a boneheaded 'observation' about Ace, and you're a fool.
That's pretty much it.- Hidell, making a brilliant point about AJ.
Twinkle Toes Stanley hadn't quite picked up that Lick It Up/
Heaven's On Fire half a ballerina dance that he does.- db
How many times can the Greed Twins milk a cow? As many times as the
sheep will let them.-db
AJ
> Wave those pom poms, Killer! Give us a cheer, Girlie! LOL!!!
Said the lonely gay boy coming to defend his lover El Janitor.
FVH
FVH being a "gay boy". Type with both hands, Twinkle Toes. Idiot.
FVH
10 years ago your posts were better written and your grammar was
better than what they are now.-AJ.
Yeah it would be hard to imagine millions of new jobs and a tough
bitch
that wouldn't take any shit instead of a loser that bows to any lesser
I wouldn't waste my time spitting on.-AJ, political expert
Pssst. Obama has been president for 7 years and you suck at math.-AJ,
2009
I'd rather speak American.-AJ, language expert
LOL! I doubt imergration is reading your posts.-Speeling bea
chaump, AJ.
Dance, essay-AJ, El Baboso
McCain wins 2008 Election.This is what will be printed on every
newspaper next week. Wait and see.-AJ, proving that he's an idiot.
our new commander and chief.- AJ, talking politics.
Stadiums have no walls!- AJ
*Geeks with key boards aren't intimidating.-AJ
You made a boneheaded 'observation' about Ace, and you're a fool.
That's pretty much it.- Hidell, making a brilliant point about AJ.
Twinkle Toes Stanley hadn't quite picked up that Lick It Up/
Heaven's On Fire half a ballerina dance that he does.- db
How many times can the Greed Twins milk a cow? As many times as the
sheep will let them.-db
El Jefe
> Okay then, I'll say it this way so as to concede your point--
> Over 80% of the public sees the mainstream media as liberal.
> Very simple statement of FACT.
Which does not support your suggestion that the media is liberal.
> Sidetrack again.. nothing to do with our conversation
> or my initial statement.
If you're going to use public opinion as a way to "prove" the media is
liberal, the example applies.
Sidetracking would be something like, you know, claiming someone
thinks it's wrong for people to protest when he's never said that. You
should be quite familiar with that example.
> Where does that come from? I never heard the president
> or the press say as much,
You have to be kidding. A year after the war started and beyond that a
majority of Americans still believed that Iraq had something to do
with 9/11.
I'm beginning to think you live in a bubble.
> and again, it has nothing to do with the
> topic at hand.
See above re: sidetracking
> My faith? Certainly not, especially after the last election.
> Let's flip it over... give me a single thing which points (as
> you claimed) that the mainstream media leans to the right.
Nice try -- I didn't say it leans to the right. I said if anything,
very generally speaking, it may be center right. Not once did I insist
as fact, as you have, that it leans any one way.
As I said before, I believe that the media does what its corporate/
conglomerate masters want it to do. More often than not, that will
favor a conservative agenda.
> Sidetracking again? I don't speak for 'multiple repub talking heads'..
> And I've never said we were done.. I said debating with you is
> pointless. You have drank far too much of the kool-aid.
Debating with you is equally pointless, and I believe what DZ/TV said
is pretty accurate: in your mind, you are never wrong.
I give you credit for being a step above AJ in that you'll actually
attempt to have a debate, and you are more informed than he is (which
isn't saying much, honestly). But it's clear who's been imbibing the
Kool-Aid.
El Jefe
El Jefe
> You just proved 83lowrider right.
Do tell, Professor. This ought to be good!
El Jefe
El Jefe
> > Does the typical comedy film have a "message"? Does a typical horror
> > film? Musical?
>
> Yes.
> > For fuck's sake, there are *tons* of movies that exist purely for
> > entertainment. How ignorant do you have to be to believe otherwise?
>
> How dumb are you not to see the messages? Pretty damn dumb.
Considering that you're the kind of douche noodle that looks for
deeper meanings and messages in Kiss lyrics, your opinion is, as
usual, laughable.
El Jefe
El Jefe
> Uh dude, you have never won an argument with 83lowrider and you have
> the nerve to say his position is weak from the start? LOL! Liberals
> are such sore losers.
You know, you have your tongue so far up 83's ass, I think Gene
Simmons is starting to get a little jealous.
Besides, if *you* think I've lost, then I *know* I've won. Not that it
means anything -- it's nothing more than a good diversion, and it's
fun to poke holes in weak arguments. :-)
El Jefe
steveh99
@k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, misfits...@aol.com says...
uhhh they were talking about political messages
FVH
Everything's a fucking war with her. So much anger in that BUTT ASS
UGLY head of hers!
FVH
Until then please re frame from wasting your efforts to impress us and
wasting our time.-AJ, putting me in my place!
10 years ago your posts were better written and your grammar was
better than what they are now.-AJ.
Yeah it would be hard to imagine millions of new jobs and a tough
bitch
that wouldn't take any shit instead of a loser that bows to any lesser
I wouldn't waste my time spitting on.-AJ, political expert
Pssst. Obama has been president for 7 years and you suck at math.-AJ,
2009
I'd rather speak American.-AJ, language expert
LOL! I doubt imergration is reading your posts.-Speeling bea
chaump, AJ.
Dance, essay-AJ, El Baboso
McCain wins 2008 Election.This is what will be printed on every
newspaper next week. Wait and see.-AJ, proving that he's an idiot.
our new commander and chief.- AJ, talking politics.
Stadiums have no walls!- AJ
*Geeks with key boards aren't intimidating.-AJ
You made a boneheaded 'observation' about Ace, and you're a fool.
That's pretty much it.- Hidell, making a brilliant point about AJ.
Twinkle Toes Stanley hadn't quite picked up that Lick It Up/
Heaven's On Fire half a ballerina dance that he does.- db
How many times can the Greed Twins milk a cow? As many times as the
sheep will let them.-db
FVH
83LowRider
"El Jefe" wrote
> Okay then, I'll say it this way so as to concede your point--
> Over 80% of the public sees the mainstream media as liberal.
> Very simple statement of FACT.
Which does not support your suggestion that the media is liberal.
-----------------------------
Re-read it then.. or have someone read it to you, that the only
'gauge' there is, is opinion. You cannot show anything to the
contrary. Kiss sucks, Kiss is great, there's a God, there's not
a God, there's alien life out there, we're alone.. Over 80%
believe the media is liberal. Live with it, and the fact you are
one of the few.
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Everything else is just diversionary and I'm not gonna restart
endless posts. Be happy, your desire to live in a socialist
country is quickly becoming true.
mss
> Besides, if *you* think I've lost, then I *know* I've won.
Chuckle, you're spanking their ass's with their own logic.
This thread kills me.
--
later on,
Mike
El Jefe
> Re-read it then.. or have someone read it to you, that the only
> 'gauge' there is, is opinion. You cannot show anything to the
> contrary. Kiss sucks, Kiss is great, there's a God, there's not
> a God, there's alien life out there, we're alone.. Over 80%
> believe the media is liberal. Live with it, and the fact you are
> one of the few.
Regardless, you have no factual evidence to back up your claim that we
have a liberal media, which is where we started. I'll bet 80% believe
in a fairy tale man in the sky that will lead them to a better place
when they kick the bucket, but such delusions are not facts. They are
opinions and/or beliefs.
> Everything else is just diversionary and I'm not gonna restart
> endless posts. Be happy, your desire to live in a socialist
> country is quickly becoming true.
Sidetracking, huh? What does socialism have to do with your inability
to support your claim that we have a liberal media? Once again you
inject something into your post that has nothing to do with the topic.
You excel at red herrings, I'll give you that much.
Continue to be afraid of the liberal media, Hollywood, and the very,
very remote chance you'll ever be attacked/killed by an Islamic
terrorist. It really must suck to fear boogeymen.
El Jefe
FVH
brightest bulb in the box. The best part about AJ is that he thinks
he's smart. Priceless.
83LowRider
"El Jefe" wrote:
> Regardless, you have no factual evidence to back up your claim that we
> have a liberal media, which is where we started. I'll bet 80% believe
> in a fairy tale man in the sky that will lead them to a better place
> when they kick the bucket, but such delusions are not facts. They are
> opinions and/or beliefs.
And that is exactly what I claimed - "over 80% believe the media is
liberal".. I can continue to repeat that FACT, but you have no rebuttal
other than to say it ain't true. I'm still waiting for something from you to
show otherwise. While you are at it, maybe you can get FVH to point
out where Obama has been "too bipartisan".
>> Everything else is just diversionary and I'm not gonna restart
>> endless posts. Be happy, your desire to live in a socialist
>> country is quickly becoming true.
> Sidetracking, huh? What does socialism have to do with your inability
> to support your claim that we have a liberal media? Once again you
> inject something into your post that has nothing to do with the topic.
> You excel at red herrings, I'll give you that much.
There is nothing but facts in what I wrote. If you disagree, please
feel free to show otherwise rather than just to SAY otherwise.
> Continue to be afraid of the liberal media, Hollywood, and the very,
> very remote chance you'll ever be attacked/killed by an Islamic
> terrorist. It really must suck to fear boogeymen.
Continue to make up stupid shit... it really helps your argument.