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steveh99

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Dec 28, 2009, 5:25:00 PM12/28/09
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TheChris

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Dec 28, 2009, 9:22:24 PM12/28/09
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steveh99 <stev...@windstream.net> wrote in
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgPD1vEiZuY&NR=1&feature=fvwp
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A Travis Bean - identifiable by the big 'T' cut out of the headstock... If
memory serves me, both Ace and Gene played TB guitars for a while - that's
who built him a prototype of that Axe bass... They were aluminum necked
guitars... I think one of the Kramer guys split off and eventually made
the Kramer Axe Bass for Simmons

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Bean

steveh99

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Dec 28, 2009, 11:27:18 PM12/28/09
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In article <Xns9CEFD97...@85.214.113.135>,
cab...@nospam.hotmail.com says...

Cool! Never knew that.. Thanks for the info, much appreciated

lab~rat >:-)

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Jan 4, 2010, 9:54:57 AM1/4/10
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On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 02:22:24 +0000 (UTC), TheChris
<cab...@nospam.hotmail.com> puked:

At first glance I thought it was a Kramer. I came close to buying one
in college, but was uncharacteristically responsible and realized I
couldn't afford it at the time. One with the tuning fork styled head
stock:

http://www.vintagekramer.com/alum.htm
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Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

TheChris

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Jan 4, 2010, 10:50:49 AM1/4/10
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"lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote in
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> At first glance I thought it was a Kramer. I came close to buying one
> in college, but was uncharacteristically responsible and realized I
> couldn't afford it at the time. One with the tuning fork styled head
> stock:
>
> http://www.vintagekramer.com/alum.htm
> --
> lab~rat >:-)
> Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
>

There was an Axe guitar??? I think it's time to be uncharacteristically
irresponsible for me :)

Honestly - some of those designs look awful - like those early Peavey
guitars... I liked that Vee though....

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lab~rat >:-)

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Jan 4, 2010, 11:10:37 AM1/4/10
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On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 15:50:49 +0000 (UTC), TheChris
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>"lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote in

>news:q604k5hcug297u0f4...@4ax.com:
>
>> At first glance I thought it was a Kramer. I came close to buying one
>> in college, but was uncharacteristically responsible and realized I
>> couldn't afford it at the time. One with the tuning fork styled head
>> stock:
>>
>> http://www.vintagekramer.com/alum.htm
>> --
>> lab~rat >:-)
>> Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
>>
>
>There was an Axe guitar??? I think it's time to be uncharacteristically
>irresponsible for me :)
>
>Honestly - some of those designs look awful - like those early Peavey
>guitars... I liked that Vee though....

I think the one I was looking at was the DMZ 2000. I seem to remember
the different color wood on the body, and it didn't have a gloss
finish. It was set up with mega low action and felt really good. I
guess it's one that got away.

TheChris

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Jan 4, 2010, 12:28:21 PM1/4/10
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"lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote in
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Honestly, everybody I spoke to -with regards to those, and the Travis
Bean's - said that the aluminum neck was a bear to work with when it got
cold...

I'm keeping my 2 Ferringtons.... That's for sure :)

lab~rat >:-)

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Jan 4, 2010, 1:05:26 PM1/4/10
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On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 17:28:21 +0000 (UTC), TheChris
<cab...@nospam.hotmail.com> puked:

So I guess I should leave the tropics and hope to pick up on a steal
during the blizzard of twenty ten?

>
>I'm keeping my 2 Ferringtons.... That's for sure :)

Never played one but I think they look cool.

TheChris

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Jan 4, 2010, 1:34:28 PM1/4/10
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"lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote in
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>
> So I guess I should leave the tropics and hope to pick up on a steal
> during the blizzard of twenty ten?
>
>>
>>I'm keeping my 2 Ferringtons.... That's for sure :)
>
> Never played one but I think they look cool.
> --
> lab~rat >:-)
> Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
>

I re-read my post.. I should have started it with..."Don't feel bad
about letting it go.... the necks were hard to play"

However, if you live in the tropics... play on :)

The Ferringtons are obviously more show than good acoustic. Easy to
play - pretty much like electrics. My trick is to pump them through an
EQ (bumping up the bass) to make them remotely sound like an acoustic.

I LOVE all those old 80's guitars - Charvels, Jacksons, Kramers, etc...
I still have 2 Peavey Vandenbergs... (Don't ask about why I have two of
everything.. It's a little issue I have :)

lab~rat >:-)

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On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 18:34:28 +0000 (UTC), TheChris
<cab...@nospam.hotmail.com> puked:

>"lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote in

>news:19b4k5don1ul37pap...@4ax.com:
>
>>
>> So I guess I should leave the tropics and hope to pick up on a steal
>> during the blizzard of twenty ten?
>>
>>>
>>>I'm keeping my 2 Ferringtons.... That's for sure :)
>>
>> Never played one but I think they look cool.
>> --
>> lab~rat >:-)
>> Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
>>
>
>I re-read my post.. I should have started it with..."Don't feel bad
>about letting it go.... the necks were hard to play"

For some reason that one, the only one I ever played, really felt
good.

>
>However, if you live in the tropics... play on :)
>
>The Ferringtons are obviously more show than good acoustic. Easy to
>play - pretty much like electrics. My trick is to pump them through an
>EQ (bumping up the bass) to make them remotely sound like an acoustic.
>
>I LOVE all those old 80's guitars - Charvels, Jacksons, Kramers, etc...
>I still have 2 Peavey Vandenbergs... (Don't ask about why I have two of
>everything.. It's a little issue I have :)

One to collect, one to use?

A girl I was friends and nothing more with had a Peavey something or
other back in '82. I loved that guitar. I think she thought I had a
crush on her because I'd hang out and play it all the time.

TheChris

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Jan 4, 2010, 3:46:26 PM1/4/10
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"lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote in
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No.. I play and mod everything... My issue *was*...I'd go out with 3
guitar stands, and I thought it looked cool to have 3 identical guitars
on said stands... So, on whatever night, it would be 3 Explorers, or 3
Strats, or 3 Vandenbergs... 3 Les Pauls... 3 Vees.....

PS - I'm on the lookout for a 3rd Ferrington - not in Black or White :)

I sold the Explorers, and one of the Vandenbergs, and one of the LP's...
So, I'm trying...

Dating a girl to play her guitar?? That's hardcore! :)

Broncofan

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Jan 5, 2010, 2:24:08 AM1/5/10
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On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 09:54:57 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net>
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I haven't seen one of those in decades!! COOL.

lab~rat >:-)

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Jan 5, 2010, 8:57:55 AM1/5/10
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On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 20:46:26 +0000 (UTC), TheChris
<cab...@nospam.hotmail.com> puked:

Funny, growing up it seemed that there were a lot of girls that had
better gear than I did but couldn't play for shit. Maybe I just had
shitty gear.

lab~rat >:-)

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Jan 5, 2010, 9:02:50 AM1/5/10
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On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 02:24:08 -0500, Broncofan puked:

Got 1100 bucks?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Kramer-USA-450G-Aluminum-Neck-Guitar-OHSC_W0QQitemZ300382320886QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar_Accessories?hash=item45f02e78f6

I can't imagine that thing selling for anything close to that. Even
one in the original unopened package.

TheChris

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Jan 5, 2010, 9:25:33 AM1/5/10
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"lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote in
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> Funny, growing up it seemed that there were a lot of girls that had
> better gear than I did but couldn't play for shit. Maybe I just had
> shitty gear.
> --
> lab~rat >:-)
> Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

I bought my '78 LP Standard (for $300) from a girl who said it was 'too
heavy'...and it is... What killed me is that she just strummed it like
an acoustic... That always bothered me about girl players... I don't
know why they can't master power chords or playing stuff like
'Grinder' :)

lab~rat >:-)

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Jan 5, 2010, 10:38:08 AM1/5/10
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On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 14:25:33 +0000 (UTC), TheChris
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>"lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote in

>news:h9h6k51212d6sffv6...@4ax.com:
>
>> Funny, growing up it seemed that there were a lot of girls that had
>> better gear than I did but couldn't play for shit. Maybe I just had
>> shitty gear.
>> --
>> lab~rat >:-)
>> Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
>
>I bought my '78 LP Standard (for $300) from a girl who said it was 'too
>heavy'...and it is... What killed me is that she just strummed it like
>an acoustic... That always bothered me about girl players... I don't
>know why they can't master power chords or playing stuff like
>'Grinder' :)

In a lot of cases, they buy electrics to get attention from dudes. I
guess.

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TheChris

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Moonpie <mr_rc_...@gmail.com> wrote in
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> On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 14:25:33 +0000 (UTC), TheChris

> <cab...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>"lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote in
>>news:h9h6k51212d6sffv6...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> Funny, growing up it seemed that there were a lot of girls that had
>>> better gear than I did but couldn't play for shit. Maybe I just had
>>> shitty gear.
>>> --
>>> lab~rat >:-)
>>> Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
>>
>>I bought my '78 LP Standard (for $300) from a girl who said it was
'too
>>heavy'...and it is... What killed me is that she just strummed it like
>>an acoustic... That always bothered me about girl players... I don't
>>know why they can't master power chords or playing stuff like
>>'Grinder' :)
>
>

> traditional gender role model stereotypes and shit like that in
> action.
>
> We're starting to see some ass-kicking guitar chicks, everybody can
> name a few, but its been a really long time coming.
>
> Seems like the stereotype, boys rock, and chicks strum and sing, are
> still pretty much in effect.
>
>
>
>

I agree with you - to a degree... I'm fully aware of great players like
Lita Ford and Kelly Johnson - but they're the exception rather than the
rule... I know WAY more girls that strum.

Honestly, I think it's because the ratio of electric vs. acoustic is
staggeringly more acoustic - and that's how you play acoustic.

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TheChris

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Moonpie <mr_rc_...@gmail.com> wrote in
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> On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 16:49:32 +0000 (UTC), TheChris

> Things are VERY slow to change. I know some girls who say "lita ford
> and jennifer batten play like men".
>
> The trad stereotype is, boys play electric, and girls strum acoustics
> and sing.
>
> One day, perhaps things will be different.
>

I forgot about Batten... Yeah - there are many.. I don't consider it
'playing like men'... but, maybe it is... More guys are into Priest, and
more girls are into Jewel... That's the way it plays out...

lab~rat >:-)

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On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 18:32:34 +0000 (UTC), TheChris
<cab...@nospam.hotmail.com> puked:

>Moonpie <mr_rc_...@gmail.com> wrote in

My daughter has been playing piano for a few years and she has
recently been showing interest in playing in a(n all girl) band. She
doesn't sing and I offered to pay for singing lessons, but that hasn't
caught on.

Meanwhile, I've been playing a bunch of music by woman artists (as I
have most of her life) all over the spectrum. Two that she
outstandingly ridicules are You Were Meant for Me by Jewel and
Beautiful by Christina Aguillera, both songs that I think are great
for that style and well sung by both. She seems to like the Donnas
and Benatar, and likes a few of the pop songs from Disney.

I know trying to shove MY music down her throat doesn't work in the
long run, but I'm trying to eke out a direction to help her. I told
her she could use my synths and PA when the time comes.

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lab~rat >:-)

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On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 15:13:14 -0500, Moonpie <mr_rc_...@gmail.com>
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>On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 18:32:34 +0000 (UTC), TheChris

>I dont think it is. Thats just a gender-biased definition.
>
>From my personal experience, its lesbians who use that definition,
>women who play lead guitar, and are accomplished at it, "play like
>men".
>
>I wonder what Joan Jett would say to them.
>
>I once had a nice chat with Batten, and asked her where were all the
>women at her concert. She told me there were never any women at her
>concerts... "Because I dont sing".
>
>I mean, at the time, here was the shining example of the fact that
>women could play guitar every bit as well as men... something the
>femmes had been screaming about for YEARS... and Batten finally proves
>it... and the women fucking IGNORE her, and then say, "she plays like
>a man", in order to marginalize it and sneer at it.
>
>Weird.

It all boils down to the fact that chicks don't airband to guitar
solos. If there was some chick out there proving she could fart as
loud as a man, I doubt NOW would adopt her as their posterchild...

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Broncofan

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On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 09:02:50 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net>
wrote:

Thanks for the link. :)

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