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JuncoX

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Mar 24, 2001, 1:04:44 PM3/24/01
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ACCORDING TO JIMMY GUTERMAN & OWEN O'DONNELL'S 1991 BOOK "THE WORST ROCK & ROLL
RECORD OF ALL TIME" IN ASCENDING ORDER (50-1).

U2 UNFORGETTABLE FIRE

GRAHAM PARKER & THE RUMOUR THE PARKERILLA

NICK LOWE PINKER & PROUDER THAN PREVIOUS

TONY SHERIDAN AND THE ELVIS PRESLEY TCB BAND

SCOTTY MOORE THE GUITAR THAT CHANGED THE WORLD

DAVID BOWIE NEVER LET ME DOWN (OOH! I HAVE THIS.)

ELVIS COSTELLO & THE ATTRACTIONS GOODBYE CRUEL WORLD

SGT PEPPER'S LONLEY HEARTS CLUB BAND-SOUNTRACK (AAH! HAVE IT.)

PHANTOM,ROCKER & SLICK

ARETHA FRANKLIN LA DIVA

RINGO STARR OLD WAVE

RINGO STARR STOP & SMELL THE ROSES

AMERICA HISTORY/GREATEST HITS (GOT IT.)

REO SPEEDWAGON LIFE AS WE KNOW IT

JOEL GREY BLACK SHEEP BOY (HAVE THIS ONE TOO.)

STARLAND VOCAL BAND 4 BY 4

EMERSON,LAKE AND PALMER TARKUS

JOEY BISHOP SINGS COUNTRY WESTERN

DONOVAN'S GREATEST HITS

BLOOD,SWEAT & TEARS

BRUCE WILLIS THE RETURN OF BRUNO

STARSHIP KNEE DEEP IN HOOPLA (I HAVE THIS.)

BEACH BOYS STILL CRUISIN' (I HAVE THIS.)

IRON BUTTERFLY LIVE

BON JOVI SLIPPERY WHEN WET (I HAVE THIS.)

ROLLING STONES STILL LIFE

THE WHO WHO'S LAST (I HAVE THIS.)

VAN DYKE PARKS SONG CYCLE

ROGER WATERS RADIO KAOS

BOB DYLAN LIVE AT BUDOKAN

70'S HITS:GREAT RECORDS OF THE DECADE (I HAVE THIS.)

MOODY BLUES DAYS OF FUTURE PAST

JOHN TRAVOLTA TRAVOLTA FEVER (I HAVE 1/2 OF THIS)

THE SHAGGS SHAGGS OWN THING

THE SHAGGS PHILOSOPHY OF THE WORLD

ANDERSON.WAKEMAN,BRUFORD,HOWE

QUEEN LIVE KILLERS (I HAVE THIS.)

QUEEN II (I HAVE THIS.)

BYRDS 1973 (I HAVE THIS.)

JETHRO TULL AQUALUNG

YES TALES FROM TOPOGRAPHIC OCEANS

GRATEFUL DEAD EUROPE '72

DOORS ALIVE,SHE CRIED

CHICAGO AT CARNEGIE HALL

MILLI VANILLI THE REMIX ALBUM

PAT BOONE PAT BOONE

CROSBY,STILLS,NASH & YOUNG AMERICAN DREAM

BOB DYLAN SELF-PORTRAIT (I HAVE THIS.)

LOU REED METAL MACHINE MUSIC

ELVIS PRESELY HAVING FUN WITH ELVIS ON STAGE

JYOB

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Mar 24, 2001, 2:18:43 PM3/24/01
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>ACCORDING TO JIMMY GUTERMAN & OWEN O'DONNELL'S 1991 BOOK "THE WORST ROCK &
>ROLL
>RECORD OF ALL TIME" IN ASCENDING ORDER (50-1).
>

The thing that bugs me about polls/lists is: What makes their opinion any more
valid than yours or mine? Because theirs was published in book form? I think
not! That is why ALL polls/lists are totally & completely
worthless...........If YOU LIKE IT....then it is good!

The old geezer

learner

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Mar 24, 2001, 3:22:06 PM3/24/01
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I actually did some guitar work on "Still Cruisin". OUCH! It is a real piece
of @3$%. But you should hear one of the early rough mixes of Somewhere near
Japan" that I have. Very Cool, Very "Carl" Wilson. I actually had a
wonderful time working with Terry and the boys. Some great memories.
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HeyJude

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Mar 24, 2001, 4:15:43 PM3/24/01
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JuncoX wrote:

> RINGO STARR OLD WAVE
>
> RINGO STARR STOP & SMELL THE ROSES

I'm not sure about "Old Wave", but "Stop and Smell the Roses" has a few good
songs on it, at least the Paul McCartney's "Private Property". Anybody that would
put these Ringo albums on the list before "Ringo the 4th" obviously hasn't listened
to all of his albums. And, unless these people have listened to just about every
album ever released, their list is invalid. Or as somebody else put it, not any
more valid than yours or mine. Just because it's in a book, it doesn't make it more
valid. I'm no expert on Van Dyke Parks, but I thought "Song Cycle" was some sort
of lost masterpiece? Or am I thinking of something else he did? I've never listened
to his solo work outside of "Orange Crate Art".
The list is obviously made up mostly of very popular bands/artists and their
most obscure/critically lambasted albums, and things like actors-turned-singers
like Travolta or Willis. What about just the really crappy bands in history that
just weren't that popular and just never did good albums? And as for "Still
Cruisin'", doesn't it have three of the classic most critically acclaimed BB songs
on it at the end? For that matter, I think the only fodder for the album to critics
would be either "Wipe Out" or "Kokomo". Everything else on the album is pretty good
I think. Even the title track isn't that bad. "Japan", "Make It Big", "Island
Girl", "In My Car", those are pretty good songs I think. On the plus side (sort
of), I feel confident that "Summer In Paradise" would have made this list had it
been done in '92 or afterwards.


paul dash

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Mar 24, 2001, 5:40:39 PM3/24/01
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This is a good reason why these type of lists are useless... Dead
.ELP..Tull...Byrds...BB..... M.Blues...None of those lp's IMHO
deserve to be on that list and probably a couple more. CSNY...Who...If
you really wanna compile a list of bad R+R records...Ya gotta go back to
the 60's with all those one hit wonders..1 or 2 good songs then 7 or 8
pure dreck...Especially groups that couldnt play well...Im not gonna say
who i think should be on that list because of offending someone...But i
will point out that both shatner + nimoy put records out for your
enjoyment....On second though i will mention one group..The Electric
Prunes...2 hit singles and 4 lps of BS........IMHO....Paul......
PS...Did anyone mention RAP..???

Stoked

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Mar 24, 2001, 6:38:58 PM3/24/01
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First, Rock & Roll music was a style from the 50's, so I'll assume what was
meant was Pop record.

> MOODY BLUES DAYS OF FUTURE PAST

THIS is the 19th worst Pop record of all time?
Time to raid the publishing warehouse and have a bookburning party.


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LPecucci

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Mar 25, 2001, 12:45:30 PM3/25/01
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gotta comment on a few of these:

>> GRAHAM PARKER & THE RUMOUR THE PARKERILLA

not his best,for sure..but its still a good record..

>> NICK LOWE PINKER & PROUDER THAN PREVIOUS

I cant BELIEVE this!! I LOVE this record!

>> ELVIS COSTELLO & THE ATTRACTIONS GOODBYE CRUEL ORLD

again,not his greatest,but even barrel scrapings of EC beat most other artists
best!


>> DONOVAN'S GREATEST HITS

There's about 3-4 songs on here that are great,yeah,the rest kinda stink but
even 1 decent song should keep it off the list..

>> BOB DYLAN LIVE AT BUDOKAN

I like this one,the "vegas" Bob was interesting..

>> THE SHAGGS SHAGGS OWN THING
>>
>> THE SHAGGS PHILOSOPHY OF THE WORLD

now Im pissed......THESE RECORDS ARE GREAT!!!!....

>> QUEEN LIVE KILLERS

the fast version of "we will rock you" is cool enough to keep this off the
list..

>> GRATEFUL DEAD EUROPE '72

the non-real long aimless jamming songs on here are excellent


>> LOU REED METAL MACHINE MUSIC
>>
>> ELVIS PRESELY HAVING FUN WITH ELVIS ON STAGE


both of these arent even rock albums...

...........................
have/want:Beatles/Can/Chilton/Costello/Cooper/Dylan/Kinks/Lowe/Mott/Nrbq/Only
Ones/Replacements/Stones/Slade/Thunders/Waits/B.Wilson/Y F Fellows&more!

http://members.aol.com/LPecucci/index.HOMEMIKE.html


R

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Mar 26, 2001, 3:29:40 AM3/26/01
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Donovan's Greatest Hits? That one makes absolutely no sense. How can
someone's greatest hits album be worse than one of their other albums?
Plus, since when was Donovan considered a rock 'n' roller? I think
JIMMY GUTERMAN & OWEN O'DONNELL must be nuts.

Hmm, which Donovan songs do you consider stinkers, L? Sure I am
absolutely sick of 'Mellow Yellow', but I like the rest. :o)

Rob

On 25 Mar 2001 17:45:30 GMT, lpec...@aol.com (LPecucci) wrote:

>>> DONOVAN'S GREATEST HITS
>
>There's about 3-4 songs on here that are great,yeah,the rest kinda stink but
>even 1 decent song should keep it off the list..


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fabfour

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Mar 26, 2001, 9:20:54 AM3/26/01
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On 24 Mar 2001 18:04:44 GMT, jun...@aol.com (JuncoX) wrote:


>RINGO STARR STOP & SMELL THE ROSES

>DONOVAN'S GREATEST HITS


>MOODY BLUES DAYS OF FUTURE PAST

>JETHRO TULL AQUALUNG
>YES TALES FROM TOPOGRAPHIC OCEANS
>GRATEFUL DEAD EUROPE '72

I have the above, and while none rank among my favorites, none stink.
And HEY...I LIKE the Electric Prunes. "Get Me To The World On TIme" is
a great song, and "Stockholm 67" is a fantastic album, in fact
allmusic.com sez "finest record ever released by this band, and maybe
the best live album of the psychedelic era," tho I realize we're
talking about a studio LP here.

And besides...where's Rolling Stones' "Love You Live" on the shitlist?
One of the few albums I bought and then had to get rid of.

JuncoX

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Mar 26, 2001, 11:02:48 PM3/26/01
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Yeah, and of all the Queen albums to put on the list why "Queen II" and
"Live Killers?" Why not, say, the dreadful "Hot Space" and "Flash Gordon?"
,Peter R.

Atichitcuk

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Apr 4, 2001, 11:03:40 PM4/4/01
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Well the same people who wrote this book did a followup a bit later where they
rated the BEST albums. I dont have it, but I remember that Rod Stewert's "Every
Picture Tells A Story" was the top album. Not that "Picture" isn't a good
album, but the best?...ummmmmmmm...no. Also I remember the only Beatles album
on the list was "Please Please Me".

Speaking of Beatles, in their Worst Albums book, they pick McCartney as one of
the worst rockers. "The Girl is Mine" aside, I think that shows again that
these authors must be related to the publisher.

Atichitcuk

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Apr 4, 2001, 11:06:53 PM4/4/01
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WHATTTTTTT!!!!!?????

The Flash Gordon soundtrack is great. Are you saying you don't get chills
hearing the Flash theme song!?

"FLASH! AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!"

"SAVIOR OF THE UNIVERSE!!!!!!"

:)

Helen Crane

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Apr 5, 2001, 12:33:34 AM4/5/01
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I liked Donovan is the 60s. Helen Crane


learner

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I liked Donovan also. But the part about sitting in the chili, hmmmm


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JuncoX

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Apr 6, 2001, 10:42:10 PM4/6/01
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Yeah, that's a fun song. I also like the "Football Fight" theme. But if
you're going to pick two "weak" Queen albums I think it's unfair to pick "Queen
II" (They had yet to hit their stride, but it's not a bad album.) or "Live
Killers."

mrvica

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Also "The Hero", the main theme + some hard rock and a powerful ending.
Two weak albums? Try "A Kind Of Magic" and "Live Magic". These mentioned
above are
among the best, imo.Plus, "Flash" is a soundtrack, not a proper album.


JuncoX

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Apr 8, 2001, 6:43:39 PM4/8/01
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>Two weak albums? Try "A Kind Of Magic" and "Live Magic

Yeah, "A Kind Of Magic" has some really slack cuts like "Give Me The Prize"
and "Don't Lose Your Head." Infact alot of the songs just don't go much of
anywhere. But "Who Wants To Live Forever" is a deserved classic and "One
Vision" is pretty high octane ansd hooky and catchy.
I've never actually heard "Live Magic." Infact for a long long time it was
the only Queen album I didn't own. I still don't own it.So I'm gonna have to
take your word for it.
,Peter R.

mrvica

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> >Two weak albums? Try "A Kind Of Magic" and "Live Magic
>
> Yeah, "A Kind Of Magic" has some really slack cuts like "Give Me The
Prize"
> and "Don't Lose Your Head." Infact alot of the songs just don't go much of
> anywhere. But "Who Wants To Live Forever" is a deserved classic and "One
> Vision" is pretty high octane ansd hooky and catchy.

Exactly, these two plus Princes Of The Universe and you've got the essence.
Too much of a
safe play, not enough experiment if you ask me. It gets in your ear quickly
and gets boring even
faster.

> I've never actually heard "Live Magic." Infact for a long long time it
was
> the only Queen album I didn't own. I still don't own it.So I'm gonna have
to
> take your word for it.

You aren't missing anything. It's all heard before (actually after). It's
basically Live At Wembley
with some brutal editing on some tracks (not sure 'bout a CD version). Some
takes are from
different venues, but nothing exciting... Should have been better advised
and release some of their
early 70es live material instead.

> ,Peter R.

Hrvoje


JuncoX

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Apr 9, 2001, 10:16:51 AM4/9/01
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Yeah, I guess that's the thing about "live albums" released prior to the CD
age. It must have been tricky to sequence tracks so they fit neatly on four
sides. I guess Queen must've used the "if it won't fit then we'll make it fit"
method.
,Peter R.

Michael Davis

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Apr 9, 2001, 8:49:25 PM4/9/01
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On 8 Apr 2001, JuncoX wrote:

> >Two weak albums? Try "A Kind Of Magic" and "Live Magic
>
> Yeah, "A Kind Of Magic" has some really slack cuts like "Give Me The Prize"
> and "Don't Lose Your Head." Infact alot of the songs just don't go much of
> anywhere. But "Who Wants To Live Forever" is a deserved classic and "One
> Vision" is pretty high octane ansd hooky and catchy.

I don't think one can really appreciate "Who Wants To Live Forever" unless
you have seen "Highlander." Brian May is great at writing really emotional
tunes.

> I've never actually heard "Live Magic." Infact for a long long time it was
> the only Queen album I didn't own. I still don't own it.So I'm gonna have to
> take your word for it.

If it makes you feel any better, it's the only one I don't own (save GH 1 &
2).

To bring this sort of back on topic, does anyone know if "I Can Hear Music"
has been officially released on CD? I'd like to compare Freddie's vocal
with Carl's...

Mike Davis, drooling at the thought of a Freddie & Carl duet (Brian & Brian
would be pretty cool too)


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mrvica

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Apr 9, 2001, 7:00:40 PM4/9/01
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It's the thing with greedy record companies. Live Killers tracks are
unedited as far as I know. However,
there are some big omissions, some tracks otherwise performed during that
'78 tour missing.
Then again, if they did release all the tracks, it would have been a triple
record set, more expensive,
would probably sell less etc... You always have the bootlegs though.
Queen as a band were never really fond of releasing live lps 'cause they
thought that the audience didn't
get real value for their money. It was something like Brian saying that live
records are usually bought by
an existing audience, and not the new one. Since existing audience went to
the concerts anyway, they got
nothing new from live lps. He got the point, imo. Of course, nowadays live
records are reminiscences, but back then, when the band was still active it
was different. Anyways, the band never appreciated the
Live Killers record; in my opinion it's great!

Hrvoje


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JuncoX

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>To bring this sort of back on topic, does anyone know if "I Can Hear Music"
>has been officially released on CD? I'd like to compare Freddie's vocal
>with Carl's...

I'm suprised it didn't make it to the Freddie Mercury boxed set of last
year. I heard it once on a British radio show and I've got a portion of it on a
cassette tape from that show. It's somewhere in among my stuff. Unfortunately I
don't have the technology available to post it.
,Peter R.

Michael Davis

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On 11 Apr 2001, JuncoX wrote:

> >
> >To bring this sort of back on topic, does anyone know if "I Can Hear Music"
> >has been officially released on CD? I'd like to compare Freddie's vocal
> >with Carl's...
>
> I'm suprised it didn't make it to the Freddie Mercury boxed set of last
> year.

There was a Freddie Mercury boxed set next year? First I miss Brian May's
wedding, then this box set. And I call myself a Queen fan... I spent too
much time listening to "Live at the Roxy," I suppose. ;^{)

> I heard it once on a British radio show and I've got a portion of it on a
> cassette tape from that show. It's somewhere in among my stuff. Unfortunately
> I don't have the technology available to post it.

That's OK. Can you describe how the arrangement compares to the Beach Boys
version? I know it's gonna sound like Queen, but I'm still curious.

Mike Davis

JuncoX

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Apr 11, 2001, 9:22:10 PM4/11/01
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>
>That's OK. Can you describe how the arrangement compares to the Beach Boys
>version? I know it's gonna sound like Queen, but I'm still curious.

I'll go looking for it. I'll get back to you in a day or two.
,Peter R.

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