nortons
Rob Kleinschmidt
S'mee
> http://www.nortonmotorcycles.com/
You sir are a very, very bad man. 8^) Let's not mention the bike that
is nominally coming out was designed by americans. ;^)
BrianNZ
S'mee
Obviously, sir, can not afford a proper gentlemans motorcycle...
BrianNZ
That was the impression I got....the commando of course. :)
S'mee
Duh...I'm no gentleman. I prefer my street bikes to be 2 stroke, less
than a liter and willing to take any road or alledged road I care to
take. Oh wait...allowing for stupid power I can have one if/when I
finish it. Never mind, problem solved. The little people can carry on
with their insignifigant lives, staring jealously from their cages as
a cruise past there stuck in traffic cage.
Rob Kleinschmidt
I think about $18K.
BrianNZ
$US ? thats not bad!
Rob Kleinschmidt
> Rob Kleinschmidt wrote:
> > On Nov 5, 3:19 pm, BrianNZ <br...@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
> >> Rob Kleinschmidt wrote:
> >>>http://www.nortonmotorcycles.com/
> >> Of course they don't show the prices!!
>
> > I think about $18K.
>
> $US ? thats not bad!
Datesfat Chicks
news:36a60ab1-c09d-4296...@t11g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> http://www.nortonmotorcycles.com/
Why would anyone buy one, especially the Commando SE.
You've got a 2009 motorcycle apparently assembled from spare junkyard parts
styled to look like it was assembled in 1979 from spare junkyard parts.
Why?
And who rates power in P.S.? That is a unit I had to look up. Why?
The Norton website boasts of the analog styled instruments. Why?
Air cooled? Why?
I'm lost. What is the allure?
Datesfat
BrianNZ
> On Nov 5, 5:02 pm, BrianNZ <br...@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
>> Rob Kleinschmidt wrote:
>>> On Nov 5, 3:19 pm, BrianNZ <br...@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
>>>> Rob Kleinschmidt wrote:
>>>>> http://www.nortonmotorcycles.com/
>>>> Of course they don't show the prices!!
>>> I think about $18K.
>> $US ? thats not bad!
>
> http://www.southbaynorton.com/
Nice. They are only 'made to order' rather than a production
motorcycle.? Not a bad bike for under 30k $NZ....Ohlins, carbon fibre
goodies, brembo....and it's air cooled. real 'old school'.
BrianNZ
> "Rob Kleinschmidt" <Rkleinsc...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:36a60ab1-c09d-4296...@t11g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>> http://www.nortonmotorcycles.com/
>
> Why would anyone buy one, especially the Commando SE.
>
For me, it's got that classic look with modern handling and modest power
to boot. reliability as well, being modern metals?
> You've got a 2009 motorcycle apparently assembled from spare junkyard
> parts styled to look like it was assembled in 1979 from spare junkyard
> parts. Why?
Timeless bike.....
>
> And who rates power in P.S.? That is a unit I had to look up. Why?
Because they might realise they will sell more outside the US?
Why aren't the US metric?
>
> The Norton website boasts of the analog styled instruments. Why?
Style....it's not just a HD thing.
>
> Air cooled? Why?
See above.......
>
> I'm lost. What is the allure?
>
> Datesfat
It's a modern take on a classic, like the 'Paul Smart' Ducati 'specials'
that came out a few years back.....only much better looking (in my opinion)
S'mee
wrote:
> "Rob Kleinschmidt" <Rkleinsch1216...@aol.com> wrote in message
Only fools don't like the Nortons and NO nimrod they aren't made from
junkyard parts. Sheesh you is one stupid OCD patient.
Twibil
No, it's "Why *isn't* the US metric?"
And the answers are:
(A) It costs a huge chunk of change to convert a big, highly
industrialized nation like to US completely over to metric. (Sheep are
automatically metric, so NZ had no investment worth speaking of.)
(B) We're still officially on our original system, but metrics are
slowly taking over in many fields; and there's no doubt we'll get
there eventually. But we'll do it a millimeter at a time rather than
all at once.
And the next question is: "Why don't the NZ schools teach their kids
the difference between plural and singular?"
Datesfat Chicks
news:72676237-6fb3-4e06...@12g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 5, 6:05 pm, BrianNZ <br...@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
>
>
> Why aren't the US metric?
>
>No, it's "Why *isn't* the US metric?"
>
>And the answers are:
>
>(A) It costs a huge chunk of change to convert a big, highly
>industrialized nation like to US completely over to metric. (Sheep are
>automatically metric, so NZ had no investment worth speaking of.)
>
>(B) We're still officially on our original system, but metrics are
>slowly taking over in many fields; and there's no doubt we'll get
>there eventually. But we'll do it a millimeter at a time rather than
>all at once.
I think Sears is happy. I have two whole sets of sockets and wrenches,
English and Metric.
>And the next question is: "Why don't the NZ schools teach their kids
>the difference between plural and singular?"
Followup question: Did you not notice that "States" is actually plural?
Well, tomorrow I'm going to go to the barber shop and get my hairs cut.
Gotta go, my spaghettis are done cooking.
Datesfat
Sean_Q_
> http://www.nortonmotorcycles.com/
Why do the classic Brit retro bikes have to be so bloated?
SQ
S'mee
Define bloated.
The Older Gentleman
> And who rates power in P.S.?
Germans and other Europeans.
--
BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple
Suzuki TS250ER (currently Beaving) Damn, back to five bikes!
Try Googling before asking a damn silly question.
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
The Older Gentleman
> http://www.nortonmotorcycles.com/
Another pipe dream, I fear.
Twibil
wrote:
>
>
> >And the next question is: "Why don't the NZ schools teach their kids
> >the difference between plural and singular?"
>
> Followup question: Did you not notice that "States" is actually plural?
(BLORT!) The "United States" is a singular entity, "State's Rights"
notwithstanding. (We had a civil war which pretty much settled that
question.)
Besides, I'm trolling for Eastern Australians; not you.
Sean_Q_
>> Why do the classic Brit retro bikes have to be so bloated?
> Define bloated.
Swollen up from the lean, mean machines they used to be.
Triumph Bonneville
1968: displacement 650 cc; dry weight 375 lb
2008: displacement 865 cc; dry weight 451 lb
Norton Commando
1968: displacement 745 cc; dry weight 410 lb
2008: displacement 961 cc; dry weight 415 lb *
* Bit of a surprise there; the new Commando is only 5 lb heavier?
That's interesting.
SQ
Sean_Q_
> (BLORT!) The "United States" is a singular entity, "State's Rights"
> notwithstanding. (We had a civil war which pretty much settled that
> question.)
>
> Besides, I'm trolling for Eastern Australians; not you.
BrianNZ: imagine if Australia were divvied up into 50 quasi-autonomous
political units about the size of New Zealand, the whole place a crazy
patchwork of laws and helmet regulations and a federal police force
that could act only if a crime happened to cross a boundary.
SQ
S'mee
Odd, it appears teh HP to weight ratio is BETTER on the new
motorcycles. Bot of the 08's are LIGHTER than my motorcycle be almost
200lb each.
Datesfat Chicks
And imagine that, until recently, you could sell or buy medical marijuana,
explicitly legalized in your state, and still be arrested and charged by the
federal authorities.
And imagine that you commit a horrible crime like sniping people in three or
more states and get caught. You would have three states and the federal
government fighting like Tasmanian devils over who gets to try you first.
The decision would then naturally be made based on which government is more
likely to give you the death penalty.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Allen_Muhammad
I'm not arguing that that form of violence doesn't warrant the death
penalty. I'm only arguing that the "Tasmanian devil" approach may not be
wholly fair to the defendant.
On the other hand, you have to do something fairly terrible before
"Tasmanian devil" politics kick in. There would have been no fight if he
had been a serial shoplifter of men's clothing and shoes.
Datesfat.
BrianNZ
I thought it was (not 50 states though)??
BrianNZ
They probably do. I messed up on this one. Don't assume I'm the only
person in NZ. :)
The 'metric' question was to show datesfatchicks that not all
measurements are in 'American' terms.
And it's 'millimetre'. :) Funny how you aren't a metric country yet
you have 'American' (read 'butchered to be different') spelling for the
units?
BrianNZ
> Rob Kleinschmidt <Rkleinsc...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> http://www.nortonmotorcycles.com/
>
> Another pipe dream, I fear.
>
I wouldn't be too keen to hand over US $3k and 'hope' I get one made.
Looks almost like a pyramid scheme....lots of deposits = a few bikes
made, then shut the doors and walk away?
Datesfat Chicks
news:4af4966e$1...@news.orcon.net.nz...
You might look up The Metric Conversion Act of 1975, for entertainment
purposes only. It did not go well.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrication_in_the_United_States
For most people in U.S. daily life, getting the right ammo for their 9mm is
their only exposure to the SI units.
And 2-liter Pepsi.
Datesfat
BrianNZ
And you have a different sized 'gallon' compared to the Poms (3.8 vs.
4.5 litres). No wonder the fuel economy of US cars looked so bad!! Must
be a big need to feel 'different' up there?
Marc Gerges
>
> For most people in U.S. daily life, getting the right ammo for their 9mm is
> their only exposure to the SI units.
>
> And 2-liter Pepsi.
It always amuses me how nutritional data on foods is always given in
grams, while the food - except for the 2-liters - is sold in imperial units.
cu
.\\arc
BrianNZ
'Ounces' for pot, 'grams' for coke?
Datesfat Chicks
That is the system. Good catch! I never noticed that.
I've never used drugs stronger than Nyquil, so I may say something dumb
here, but ...
It may just be that the units line up well with what is economically
affordable and usable quantities. Measuring marijuana in grams may give
awkwardly large numbers, and measuring cocaine in ounces may give either
awkward fractions or quantities that are too large for personal consumption.
Datesfat
Rob Kleinschmidt
wrote:
> > 'Ounces' for pot,
> Measuring marijuana in grams may give
> awkwardly large numbers,
Oddly enough, marijuana is measured in both ounces and kilos.
Or so I've heard anyway.
"E could 'a drawed me off a pint,' grumbled the old man as
he settled down behind a glass. 'A 'alf litre ain't enough. It
don't satisfy. And a 'ole litre's too much. It starts my
bladder running. Let alone the price.'
Marc Gerges
> Marc Gerges wrote:
>> Datesfat Chicks <datesfa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> For most people in U.S. daily life, getting the right ammo for their 9mm is
>>> their only exposure to the SI units.
>>>
>>> And 2-liter Pepsi.
>>
>> It always amuses me how nutritional data on foods is always given in
>> grams, while the food - except for the 2-liters - is sold in imperial units.
>>
>
How would I know - I live 3 hours from Amsterdam :)
cu
.\\arc
The Older Gentleman
> "E could 'a drawed me off a pint,' grumbled the old man as
> he settled down behind a glass. 'A 'alf litre ain't enough. It
> don't satisfy. And a 'ole litre's too much. It starts my
> bladder running. Let alone the price.'
Eric Blair rules.
The Older Gentleman
That's being a bit cynical, but the trouble with so many of these wonder
operations is that they're hopelessly under-capitalised.
That was one thing that John Bloor got *right*. He knew it wouldn't cost
millions, not tens of millions, but hundreds of millions to establish
Triumph as a global bike brand. And he stumped up the money. All of it,
from his own pocket. Banks and outside investors own not one share of
Triumph. Respect is due.
The Older Gentleman
> And you have a different sized 'gallon' compared to the Poms (3.8 vs.
> 4.5 litres). No wonder the fuel economy of US cars looked so bad!!
Henry? Is that you?
The Older Gentleman
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrication_in_the_United_States
That is an absolutely fascinating Wiki entry. Thanks.
BrianNZ
> BrianNZ <br...@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
>
>> The Older Gentleman wrote:
>>> Rob Kleinschmidt <Rkleinsc...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.nortonmotorcycles.com/
>>> Another pipe dream, I fear.
>>>
>>
>> I wouldn't be too keen to hand over US $3k and 'hope' I get one made.
>> Looks almost like a pyramid scheme....lots of deposits = a few bikes
>> made, then shut the doors and walk away?
>
> That's being a bit cynical, but the trouble with so many of these wonder
> operations is that they're hopelessly under-capitalised.
>
I'll sell you an RSV1000 powered Britten replica if I wasn't so under
capitalised. :)
> That was one thing that John Bloor got *right*. He knew it wouldn't cost
> millions, not tens of millions, but hundreds of millions to establish
> Triumph as a global bike brand. And he stumped up the money. All of it,
> from his own pocket. Banks and outside investors own not one share of
> Triumph. Respect is due.
>
>
I didn't know that. At least if it went under it's only one mans fortune.
BrianNZ
> BrianNZ <br...@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
>
>> And you have a different sized 'gallon' compared to the Poms (3.8 vs.
>> 4.5 litres). No wonder the fuel economy of US cars looked so bad!!
>
> Henry? Is that you?
>
Sqibs!
turby
> ...
> And the next question is: "Why don't the NZ schools teach their kids
> the difference between plural and singular?"
It's not just Kiwis. Most of the British empire was taught weird
numbers. A sports team _are_ this or that. It's enough to drive a sane
man bonker.
turby
> >> For most people in U.S. daily life, getting the right ammo for their 9mm is
> >> their only exposure to the SI units.
>
> >> And 2-liter Pepsi.
>
> > It always amuses me how nutritional data on foods is always given in
> > grams, while the food - except for the 2-liters - is sold in imperial units.
>
> > cu
> > .\\arc
>
> 'Ounces' for pot, 'grams' for coke?
To say nothing of bags, lids, and fingers.
turby
wrote:
> ...
> For most people in U.S. daily life, getting the right ammo for their 9mm is
> their only exposure to the SI units.
>
> And 2-liter Pepsi.
>
> Datesfat
So, lemme guess what size motorcycle you ride - a three-quart?
Twibil
And you pronounce it "milly-mee-tree" no doubt?
We spell it "millimeter" because we pronounce it "milly-mee-tur".
Phonetics r all.
Twibil
"Tokes" or "lids" for pot, "cans" and "bottles" for coke.
tomorrowat...@yahoo.com
wrote:
> I'm lost.
[Nods.] True, that.
tomorrowat...@yahoo.com
> And it's 'millimetre'. :) Funny how you aren't a metric country yet
> you have 'American' (read 'butchered to be different') spelling for the
> units?
We just do it to tease youse guys'es.
tomorrowat...@yahoo.com
wrote:
> For most people in U.S. daily life, getting the right ammo for their 9mm is
> their only exposure to the SI units.
>
> And 2-liter Pepsi.
And 6.0 liter Corvettes.
tomorrowat...@yahoo.com
> So, lemme guess what size motorcycle you ride - a three-quart?
I've a Harley 103, two Ducati 61's, a Ducati 45, and a Honda 5.5,
myself.
Oddly, I have a Chevy Silverado 8.0 and a Mazda Miata 1.8, as well.
Very confusing.
Vito
| Rob Kleinschmidt wrote:
| > http://www.nortonmotorcycles.com/
|
| Why do the classic Brit retro bikes have to be so bloated?
|
Electric starters.
pat
>'A 'alf litre ain't enough.It don't satisfy.
Orwell could've gone on to write:
".. and don't get me started on the yankee pint. S'even less than a
'alf litre. Not a natural amount."
:)
Beav
"S'mee" <steven...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 5, 1:54 pm, Rob Kleinschmidt <Rkleinsch1216...@aol.com> wrote:
> http://www.nortonmotorcycles.com/
>You sir are a very, very bad man. 8^) Let's not mention the bike that
>is nominally coming out was designed by americans. ;^)
Not that it was based on a design done in the 50's by some Brit blokes :-)
--
Beav
VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19
Beav
They are fucking silly money. Still got full order books though. So they
say.
Beav
"BrianNZ" <br...@itnz.co.nz> wrote in message
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> Rob Kleinschmidt wrote:
>>> Rob Kleinschmidt wrote:
>>>> On Nov 5, 3:19 pm, BrianNZ <br...@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>> Rob Kleinschmidt wrote:
>>>>>> http://www.nortonmotorcycles.com/
>>>>> Of course they don't show the prices!!
>>> $US ? thats not bad!
>>
>> http://www.southbaynorton.com/
>
>
> Nice. They are only 'made to order' rather than a production motorcycle.?
> Not a bad bike for under 30k $NZ....Ohlins, carbon fibre goodies,
> brembo....and it's air cooled. real 'old school'.
Apart from the Ohlins, the Brembo's and the carbon fibre goodies, I'd agree
:-)
Beav
"Datesfat Chicks" <datesfa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Rob Kleinschmidt" <Rkleinsc...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:36a60ab1-c09d-4296...@t11g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>> http://www.nortonmotorcycles.com/
>
> Why would anyone buy one, especially the Commando SE.
>
> You've got a 2009 motorcycle apparently assembled from spare junkyard
> parts styled to look like it was assembled in 1979 from spare junkyard
> parts. Why?
You really have NO idea, do you?
>
> And who rates power in P.S.? That is a unit I had to look up. Why?
Because someone just KNEW that you didn't know what P.S. was.
>
> The Norton website boasts of the analog styled instruments. Why?
>
> Air cooled? Why?
>
> I'm lost. What is the allure?
If you have to ask, you wouldn't understand the answer.
Beav
"Twibil" <noway...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 5, 6:05 pm, BrianNZ <br...@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
>
>
>> Why aren't the US metric?
>No, it's "Why *isn't* the US metric?"
Mmm, I thought the United States is a collection of more than one, so IS it
"isn't"?
Had it been "Why isn't the United State metric" you may be right. But....
>And the answers are:
>(A) It costs a huge chunk of change to convert a big, highly
>industrialized nation like to US completely over to metric. (Sheep are
>automatically metric, so NZ had no investment worth speaking of.)
>
>(B) We're still officially on our original system, but metrics are
>slowly taking over in many fields; and there's no doubt we'll get
>there eventually. But we'll do it a millimeter at a time rather than
>all at once.
>And the next question is: "Why don't the NZ schools teach their kids
>the difference between plural and singular?"
A question I'm sat here pondering myself, but not about NZ.
S'mee
> "Sean_Q_" <no.s...@no.spam> wrote in messagenews:hd0c68$n1s$1...@aioe.org...
> | Rob Kleinschmidt wrote:
>
> | >http://www.nortonmotorcycles.com/
> |
> | Why do the classic Brit retro bikes have to be so bloated?
> |
> Electric starters.
Well there's a bullshit non-answer...
S'mee
> "S'mee" <stevenkei...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:a55a9cd4-3737-4820...@g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 5, 1:54 pm, Rob Kleinschmidt <Rkleinsch1216...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.nortonmotorcycles.com/
> >You sir are a very, very bad man. 8^) Let's not mention the bike that
> >is nominally coming out was designed by americans. ;^)
>
> Not that it was based on a design done in the 50's by some Brit blokes :-)
>
Nope...nice try. I remember (vaguely) when they got started here over
in Oregeon. Only thing british was the outside appearances and IIRC
maybe some fiddly bits.
Bob Mann
news:mxdJm.9139$s_4....@newsfe02.ams2:
> Mmm, I thought the United States is a collection of more than one, so
> IS it "isn't"?
>
> Had it been "Why isn't the United State metric" you may be right.
> But....
>
Grammar shifts accross the oceans.
In North America, a collective noun is considered singular as in one
collection.
In Britain it's considered plural as in a group of individuals.
--
Bob Mann
Cap'n, ah need moor pow'r.
BrianNZ
'outside appearance' = 'design'?
BrianNZ
All the bits that needed updating, you mean. :)
BrianNZ
Us fulla's 'n fullessa's speak da good England, eh bro. :)
BrianNZ
> On Nov 5, 6:05 pm, BrianNZ <br...@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
>>
>> Why aren't the US metric?
>
> No, it's "Why *isn't* the US metric?"
>
>
> (A) It costs a huge chunk of change to convert a big, highly
> industrialized nation like to US completely over to metric. (Sheep are
> automatically metric, so NZ had no investment worth speaking of.)
>
> (B) We're still officially on our original system, but metrics are
> slowly taking over in many fields; and there's no doubt we'll get
> there eventually. But we'll do it a millimeter at a time rather than
> all at once.
>
> And the next question is: "Why don't the NZ schools teach their kids
> the difference between plural and singular?"
So, what does 'US' stand for? I meant it as 'United States'.
Why aren't the United States metric?
Why isn't the United States metric?
:)
S'mee
Southern states i.e. former members of the CSA.
> Why isn't the United States metric?
The rest of the americas...even Qubec. o=8^)
heh, in america we speak american and mostly write/read english.
americans do NOT speakee eenglish. Think of it as like the difference
between mexican and spanish...they only sound the same.
Beav
"Sean_Q_" <no....@no.spam> wrote in message news:hd0c68$n1s$1...@aioe.org...
So they can carry bloated Septics?
And if you REALLY want to talk about "bloated", look no further than the
Harley catalogue.
S'mee
> "Sean_Q_" <no.s...@no.spam> wrote in messagenews:hd0c68$n1s$1...@aioe.org...
> > Rob Kleinschmidt wrote:
> >>http://www.nortonmotorcycles.com/
>
> > Why do the classic Brit retro bikes have to be so bloated?
>
> So they can carry bloated Septics?
>
> And if you REALLY want to talk about "bloated", look no further than the
> Harley catalogue.
Or any other catalog...well exceting the ones for trials bikes. 8^)
After all there is NO excuse that for a 1l motorcycle to weigh more
the 350# and just to piss in your punch...WTH does the GL1800 weigh
more than a Reliant Robin? hmm? well?
Now don't get me started on cruisers and their bloat.
Beav
My brother is an ex Goldwing owner/rider, but they need more maintenance
than he was ever prepared to put in so they broke. Best thing that ever
happened to them.
>Now don't get me started on cruisers and their bloat.
Nor me.
S'mee
> "S'mee" <stevenkei...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:236160bf-0fd1-46dd...@g4g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 6, 4:57 am, "Beav" <beavis.origi...@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote:
>
> > "Sean_Q_" <no.s...@no.spam> wrote in messagenews:hd0c68$n1s$1...@aioe.org...
> > > Rob Kleinschmidt wrote:
> > >>http://www.nortonmotorcycles.com/
>
> > > Why do the classic Brit retro bikes have to be so bloated?
>
> > So they can carry bloated Septics?
>
> >> And if you REALLY want to talk about "bloated", look no further than the
> >> Harley catalogue.
> >Or any other catalog...well exceting the ones for trials bikes. 8^)
> >After all there is NO excuse that for a 1l motorcycle to weigh more
> >the 350# and just to piss in your punch...WTH does the GL1800 weigh
> >more than a Reliant Robin? hmm? well?
>
> My brother is an ex Goldwing owner/rider, but they need more maintenance
> than he was ever prepared to put in so they broke. Best thing that ever
> happened to them.
What maintinence? Check the oil, top off the gas, check the tires,
change the timing belts every 74K...what maintinence? Oh, maybe swap
out the plugs when you do the belts. It's that fukcing simple...was
that to complicated for the moron?
> >Now don't get me started on cruisers and their bloat.
>
> Nor me.
>
heh...stop agreeing with me.