Paging RGD and the Harley-isti
The Older Gentleman
Which Harleys actually have a decent pillion seat? I mean, apart from
Electra Glides?
Hypothetically speaking, if one were looking at the big stripped-down
cruisers like your missus's new steed, and wanted to carry a pillion on
a regular basis, for fairly high miles (like several hundred in a day)
which would be the bike of choice?
Because they all seem to have fairly skimpy pilliion perches.
Or is it a matter (as so often seems to be the case with HDs) of going
through the accessories catalogue and finding a replacement?
I suppose a sissy bar or backrest is de rigeur, too.
Purely hypothetical. For the moment.
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Road Glidin' Don
Gentleman) wrote:
> Further to other remarks....
>
> Which Harleys actually have a decent pillion seat? I mean, apart from
> Electra Glides?
>
> Hypothetically speaking, if one were looking at the big stripped-down
> cruisers like your missus's new steed, and wanted to carry a pillion on
> a regular basis, for fairly high miles (like several hundred in a day)
> which would be the bike of choice?
>
> Because they all seem to have fairly skimpy pilliion perches.
>
> Or is it a matter (as so often seems to be the case with HDs) of going
> through the accessories catalogue and finding a replacement?
>
> I suppose a sissy bar or backrest is de rigeur, too.
>
> Purely hypothetical. For the moment.
Heh, heh. Oh, now this is interesting! TOG... maybe on a Harley some
day? Goes to show almost anything is possible! <g>
Actually, the stock saddle on the bike my wife bought looks to me like
one of the most comfortable, pillion-wise (they gave that, along with
the new saddle it has on). You can get a bit of a look at it here:
I've also augmented the page on my wife's new bike recently (it even
has a video of the ride home from the dealer at the bottom of the
page). That's located at: http://www.xidos.ca/OddsEnds/GoodbyeSportster/tabid/187/Default.aspx
The Heritage Softail - although a bit more of a heavy-style bike -
also has an excellent passenger seat (based on my friend's report, who
has taken his wife on back for many thousands of miles). In the case
of the Heritage you get passenger floorboards, which is nice (on my
wife's Softail, there are just pegs for the passenger). Sissy bars /
passenger backrests are also good (in terms of adding t-bags too).
For long trips, I think passengers appreciate floorboards, but I
wouldn't know for sure, never having been one. :)
But, given the cost of a saddle relative to the bike and the fact you
can probably get a comfortable one for the passenger on any of the
Softails (with the exception of the Rocker, I suppose), I'd be
inclined to choose first on the basis of the bike I like and then
modify (if necessary) to suit the passenger later.
The Older Gentleman
>
> Heh, heh. Oh, now this is interesting! TOG... maybe on a Harley some
> day? Goes to show almost anything is possible! <g>
No, I've ridden a few I liked. And a few I thought bloody awful.
>
> Actually, the stock saddle on the bike my wife bought looks to me like
> one of the most comfortable, pillion-wise (they gave that, along with
> the new saddle it has on). You can get a bit of a look at it here:
>
>
http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Content/Pages/2010_Motorcycles/2010
_motorcycles.html?locale=en_US&bmLocale=en_US#/family/SO
>
I rather like that virtual showroom effect. I assume you're referring to
the seat on that Softail Custom, right?
> But, given the cost of a saddle relative to the bike and the fact you
> can probably get a comfortable one for the passenger on any of the
> Softails (with the exception of the Rocker, I suppose), I'd be
> inclined to choose first on the basis of the bike I like and then
> modify (if necessary) to suit the passenger later.
Yes, that makes sense. Something to think about this winter.
Road Glidin' Don
Gentleman) wrote:
> Road Glidin' Don <d.lan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Actually, the stock saddle on the bike my wife bought looks to me like
> > one of the most comfortable, pillion-wise (they gave that, along with
> > the new saddle it has on). You can get a bit of a look at it here:
>
> http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Content/Pages/2010_Motorcycles/2010
> _motorcycles.html?locale=en_US&bmLocale=en_US#/family/SO
>
> I rather like that virtual showroom effect. I assume you're referring to
> the seat on that Softail Custom, right?
Yep, that's the one, Neil. It looks comfortable to me when I see it
in the showroom.
The Older Gentleman
That backrest seems quite raked back, though. The seat itself looks a
bit small.
I dunno. At least the pillion pegs are in the right place.
God, but that's a good-looking bike.
Woah! I've just discovered the '360 degreee rotate' function on the
site.
<Looks at Heritage Softail Classic>
Nah, looks more gay than a Liberace convention.
<Dyna Super Glide>
More like it, especially in black. Stupid single seat, though. I suppose
there must be other seats available. Plus pillion pegs.
<Back to Softail Custom>
<On to Sportsters>
Hm. That 1200 Sportster Custom ticks the boxes, too. Except for those
forward controls. Wonder if the Softail has those...?
<Checks>
Yes, it does. Well, better on that than on something trying to call
itself a Sportster.
<Checks watch>
I've just spent 20 minutes on that site, you bastard. If anyone who
knows me over this side of the pond finds out I'm in deep trouble...
Timo Geusch
> <Checks watch>
>
> I've just spent 20 minutes on that site, you bastard. If anyone who
> knows me over this side of the pond finds out I'm in deep trouble...
I'm watching you, sonny :)
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The Older Gentleman
> totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) writes:
>
> > <Checks watch>
> >
> > I've just spent 20 minutes on that site, you bastard. If anyone who
> > knows me over this side of the pond finds out I'm in deep trouble...
>
> I'm watching you, sonny :)
Oops.
tomorrowat...@yahoo.com
Gentleman) wrote:
> Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote:
> > totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) writes:
>
> > > <Checks watch>
>
> > > I've just spent 20 minutes on that site, you bastard. If anyone who
> > > knows me over this side of the pond finds out I'm in deep trouble...
>
> > I'm watching you, sonny :)
>
> Oops.
Don't worry about it. I still spend 90% of my mototime on Ducati,
even though I've owned and ridden Harleys for five years now.
The two passions can very peacefully coexist.
Seriously.
Bob Mann
news:Xns9CBDC043...@69.16.185.252:
> "Road Glidin' Don" <d.la...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:401aedb1-e03b-4e4b...@p35g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:
>
>> http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Content/Pages/2010_Motorcycles/20
>> 1 0_motorcycles.html?locale=en_US&bmLocale=en_US#/family/SO
>
>
> What the hell happened to the Road Glide Custom? They forget to
> finish
> designing the fairing?
>
All it is, is the Road Glide with Street Glide footboards and pegs and a
low windshield.
--
Bob Mann
Cap'n, ah need moor pow'r.
Bob Mann
news:1j8uuln.1sgp5cjpytabyN%totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk:
> Which Harleys actually have a decent pillion seat? I mean, apart from
> Electra Glides?
>
The '09 and earlier Road Glide had a decent seat. Low profile buit
comfortable enough. The Street Glide seat (same as the RG seat for '10) is
uncomfortable.
Many Street Glide owners switched out with Road Glide seats.
The Road King Standard is decent but the Classic is crap.
The Fat Boy and Heritage Softail are okay.
Even those have better alternatives in the P&A catalogue though.
Many Heritage owners who tour with a passenger get the touring pillion.
There is also a touring pillion for the Deluxe.
Apart from that I would get either a Sundowner from H-D or a Mustang seat.
Even the Electraglide seat can be greatly improved upon.
I had a Mustang on my previous bike and it was far better than the stock
seat.
don (Calgary)
wrote:
Hey Bob do you know anything about that new Hammock (?) seat? Any
feedback from your customers yet?
I keep thinking about changing the seat on the RK. The Comfort Stitch
is good but it has me sitting just a bit too far forward.
The Hammock looks like a unique design for a bike seat and I am
wondering if it has proved to be an improvement over the typical
seats.
You guys still riding out there? I was out running some errands
yesterday and my jiffy stand nearly fell off. I was pulling out of the
parking lot and there was a rattling scraping noise coming from the
bottom end of the bike. I figured something let go in the engine. When
I looked down I could see the kick stand flopping around. I need to
check stuff like that more often.
Road Glidin' Don
> You guys still riding out there?
You betcha!
> I was out running some errands
> yesterday and my jiffy stand nearly fell off. I was pulling out of the
> parking lot and there was a rattling scraping noise coming from the
> bottom end of the bike. I figured something let go in the engine. When
> I looked down I could see the kick stand flopping around. I need to
> check stuff like that more often.
I've had the stand begin dragging when the spring that holds the stand
up against the frame gave up. Maybe that's the problem?
don (Calgary)
<d.la...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Nov 8, 8:33�pm, "don (Calgary)" <hd.f...@telus.net> wrote:
>
>> You guys still riding out there?
>
>You betcha!
Hey we deserve a long fall after the late spring and crappy summer. I
am sure you and Gladys are making the most of it.
>
>> I was out running some errands
>> yesterday and my jiffy stand nearly fell off. I was pulling out of the
>> parking lot and there was a rattling scraping noise coming from the
>> bottom end of the bike. I figured something let go in the engine. When
>> I looked down I could see the kick stand flopping around. I need to
>> check stuff like that more often.
>
>I've had the stand begin dragging when the spring that holds the stand
>up against the frame gave up. Maybe that's the problem?
>
That could be part of the problem. I will check the spring cuz the
stand doesn't slide up as firmly as it used to.
What happened was the nut on top of the jiffy stand had worked loose.
It left the whole thing kinda sloppy. It was an easy fix.
The Older Gentleman
> totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) wrote in
> news:1j8uuln.1sgp5cjpytabyN%totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk:
>
> > Which Harleys actually have a decent pillion seat? I mean, apart from
> > Electra Glides?
> >
>
> The '09 and earlier Road Glide had a decent seat. Low profile buit
> comfortable enough. The Street Glide seat (same as the RG seat for '10) is
> uncomfortable.
> Many Street Glide owners switched out with Road Glide seats.
> The Road King Standard is decent but the Classic is crap.
> The Fat Boy and Heritage Softail are okay.
And, specifically, what about the Softail Custom?
>
> Even those have better alternatives in the P&A catalogue though.
> Many Heritage owners who tour with a passenger get the touring pillion.
> There is also a touring pillion for the Deluxe.
> Apart from that I would get either a Sundowner from H-D or a Mustang seat.
>
> Even the Electraglide seat can be greatly improved upon.
> I had a Mustang on my previous bike and it was far better than the stock
> seat.
<Googles>
Mtustang seats, Hammock seats....
Holy hell. $400-700. Be much cheaper to get a pro upholsterer to remodel
the existing one.
Or HD could fit a decent seat as stock, but that's too radical a
solution, I suppose. Might as well ask Ducati to fit electrics that
aren't made of Christmas tree lights.
Bob Mann
news:hl2ff59h3oef1a5et...@4ax.com:
> Hey Bob do you know anything about that new Hammock (?) seat? Any
> feedback from your customers yet?
The owner put one on a demo street Glide and took it on a trip.
Said it was very comfortable.
>
> I keep thinking about changing the seat on the RK. The Comfort Stitch
> is good but it has me sitting just a bit too far forward.
>
> The Hammock looks like a unique design for a bike seat and I am
> wondering if it has proved to be an improvement over the typical
> seats.
The Hammock Seat is used on the CVO Ultras as well only they're heated
too.
So far everyone seems to like it and nobody has swapped it out yet.
>
> You guys still riding out there? I was out running some errands
> yesterday and my jiffy stand nearly fell off. I was pulling out of the
> parking lot and there was a rattling scraping noise coming from the
> bottom end of the bike. I figured something let go in the engine. When
> I looked down I could see the kick stand flopping around. I need to
> check stuff like that more often.
>
Still riding.
It got up to 13 today.
Only had snow one day and it only settled for a few hours on the grass.
The coldest so far was -8 which isn't cold enough to stop me unless it
gets icy.
Spring let go?
That's what usually goes on the kick stand.
Bob Mann
> Bob Mann <bob...@mtsremove.net> wrote:
>
>
> And, specifically, what about the Softail Custom?
I personally don't like it but others seem to.
Some swap it out for a lower profile seat.
The pillion is narrow but well padded.
>>
>> Even those have better alternatives in the P&A catalogue though.
>> Many Heritage owners who tour with a passenger get the touring
>> pillion. There is also a touring pillion for the Deluxe.
>> Apart from that I would get either a Sundowner from H-D or a Mustang
>> seat.
>>
>> Even the Electraglide seat can be greatly improved upon.
>> I had a Mustang on my previous bike and it was far better than the
>> stock seat.
>
> <Googles>
>
> Mtustang seats, Hammock seats....
>
> Holy hell. $400-700. Be much cheaper to get a pro upholsterer to
> remodel the existing one.
Some have done that too. We have a guy we send stuff to.
>
> Or HD could fit a decent seat as stock, but that's too radical a
> solution, I suppose. Might as well ask Ducati to fit electrics that
> aren't made of Christmas tree lights.
>
>
Seats are a problem although it doesn't deter anyone and just makes the
MoCo more money.
A few people have swapped seats out and gotten a credit for the stock
seat. Some keep both.
tomorrowat...@yahoo.com
Gentleman) wrote:
> Or HD could fit a decent seat as stock, but that's too radical a
> solution, I suppose. Might as well ask Ducati to fit electrics that
> aren't made of Christmas tree lights.
Different experiences here.
I haven't bought a motorcycle with a "decent seat[1]" as stock since
my 1973 Ducati 750GT, although the stock seat on my 2004 Road Glide
and the stock seat on my 2006 Street Glide have been the best of the
bunch. Nor have I ever bought a motorcycle with decent stock horn
from any maker. Nor have I had any electrical complaints with any of
my Ducatis since the '73 GT and the '77 900SS bevelhead.
[1] "decent" in this instance meaning (to me) broad, flat, firm,
doesn't lock me into one position, is comfortable for long distances,
and doesn't make the bike look awful.
TOG@Toil
> totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) wrote innews:1j8wk2u.1xsjkbk1c6cuadN%totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk:
>
> > Bob Mann <bobm...@mtsremove.net> wrote:
>
> > And, specifically, what about the Softail Custom?
>
> I personally don't like it but others seem to.
> Some swap it out for a lower profile seat.
> The pillion is narrow but well padded.
>
>
> >> Even those have better alternatives in the P&A catalogue though.
> >> Many Heritage owners who tour with a passenger get the touring
> >> pillion. There is also a touring pillion for the Deluxe.
> >> Apart from that I would get either a Sundowner from H-D or a Mustang
> >> seat.
>
> >> Even the Electraglide seat can be greatly improved upon.
> >> I had a Mustang on my previous bike and it was far better than the
> >> stock seat.
>
> > <Googles>
>
> > Mtustang seats, Hammock seats....
>
> > Holy hell. $400-700. Be much cheaper to get a pro upholsterer to
> > remodel the existing one.
>
> Some have done that too. We have a guy we send stuff to.
>
and remodel seats. They'll change a seat to just about anything you
want, retaining the original pan. I used them years ago, to re-cover
and change a seat on a Guzzi I owned (the back flipped up a bit, so
the pillion was forever sliding into the rider under braking). Not
expensive, as I recall.
>
> > Or HD could fit a decent seat as stock, but that's too radical a
> > solution, I suppose. Might as well ask Ducati to fit electrics that
> > aren't made of Christmas tree lights.
>
> Seats are a problem although it doesn't deter anyone and just makes the
> MoCo more money.
> A few people have swapped seats out and gotten a credit for the stock
> seat. Some keep both.
>
Yeah, BMW used to offer a "Comfort seat" option on some models, I
remember, which raised the question of whether the stock item was a
"Discomfort seat".
And for my Street Triple, Triumph offer a gel seat that's supposed to
be more comfy. Although I haven't done any long distances on it yet.
But it's just the blatancy of it that annoys me: "Here you are, we
know the stock seat can be improved, and we have the improved one
here, but you'll have to buy it separately." I mean, wtf?
TOG@Toil
<tomorrowaterolsdot...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 9, 2:18 am, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
>
> Gentleman) wrote:
> > Or HD could fit a decent seat as stock, but that's too radical a
> > solution, I suppose. Might as well ask Ducati to fit electrics that
> > aren't made of Christmas tree lights.
>
> Different experiences here.
>
> I haven't bought a motorcycle with a "decent seat[1]" as stock since
> my 1973 Ducati 750GT, although the stock seat on my 2004 Road Glide
> and the stock seat on my 2006 Street Glide have been the best of the
> bunch. Nor have I ever bought a motorcycle with decent stock horn
> from any maker. Nor have I had any electrical complaints with any of
> my Ducatis since the '73 GT and the '77 900SS bevelhead.
Well, I exaggerate ;-) My own Duke has been trouble-free, barring a
dodgy connection to the starter solenoid and a mild appetite for
neutral light switches.
But I regard a seat as something really important on a bike. I mean,
it doesn't any more to design or build a comfy one as it does to
produce a torture rack, so why can't more manufacturers get it right?
A few years ago, I was toruing on a fuel-injected Guzzi California.
Lovely bike, great engine and handling, but the seat was excruciating
after only one hour.
Best seats ever, in my own experience? Moto Guzzi Spada, current BMW
K11, old airhead BMW, Honda CX500. And the present Ducati's pretty
good too.
>
> [1] "decent" in this instance meaning (to me) broad, flat, firm,
> doesn't lock me into one position, is comfortable for long distances,
> and doesn't make the bike look awful.
It's a good enough definition.
TOG@Toil
>Nor have I ever bought a motorcycle with decent stock horn
> from any maker.
Oh, missed this. BMW, mate, BMW. Humungous great Fiamms. Years ago, a
journo invented the "Grandmother Frightening Scale" for BMW horns. But
yes, you're right: most horns are truly crappy.
Mark Olson
> But I regard a seat as something really important on a bike. I mean,
> it doesn't any more to design or build a comfy one as it does to
> produce a torture rack, so why can't more manufacturers get it right?
>> and doesn't make the bike look awful.
That's the answer. Comfy seats have to be wide and shaped to fit
the rider's posterior, which is generally at odds with what many
potential buyers consider to be good looks. After enduring the
hell on earth that many stock seats are after a few hours, those
preconceptions go right out the window.
It does make a person think though, it would be great to be able
to order a semi-custom seat direct from the manufacturer as an
option.
Stature
[ ] stumpy
[ ] normal
[x] leggy
[ ] orangutan
[ ] giant
Avoirdupois
[ ] stick insect
[ ] normal
[ ] enhanced
[x] bloater
[ ] creates own local gravity
etc.
Doug Payne
> Comfy seats have to be wide and shaped to fit
> the rider's posterior, which is generally at odds with what many
> potential buyers consider to be good looks. After enduring the
> hell on earth that many stock seats are after a few hours, those
> preconceptions go right out the window.
>
> It does make a person think though, it would be great to be able
> to order a semi-custom seat direct from the manufacturer as an
> option.
Given that Sargent and Corbin, et.al. seem to be making a reasonable
living providing non-custom aftermarket seats, even some vague thought
by the manufacturers to provide comfort over flash would go a long way.
Interestingly, the BMW F800GS, which has from the get-go been rightly
criticized for having a very uncomfortable seat, now has a "comfort
seat" as an OEM option. It looks remarkably similar to the Sargent seat
for that bike. One small step for ass-kind.
Road Glidin' Don
Goes to show, it's a good idea to give the stock seat a try before
swapping it out.
The stock seat on my Street Bob, solid as a slab of rock, gave me
every impression it would be uncomfortable for long days, just looking
at it and feeling it. But then I rode it and, to my surprise, it's
extremely comfortable; not an issue at all. I can sit on that thing
all day long without discomfort. Must be that the shape is right.
TOG@Toil
>
> The stock seat on my Street Bob, solid as a slab of rock, gave me
> every impression it would be uncomfortable for long days, just looking
> at it and feeling it. But then I rode it and, to my surprise, it's
> extremely comfortable; not an issue at all. I can sit on that thing
> all day long without discomfort. Must be that the shape is right.
That was just the same with my Duke. When I bought it, I eyed it with
suspicion, recollecting all the stories about Dukes being designed
around a gibbon with an armour-plated backside, but to my astonishment
it was great. I've done 550-600 miles in a day on it.
Of course, a decent riding position helps. On a sports bike with
'conventional' controls, that means a certain amount of weight taken
on arms and feet.
I suppose on a Harley with forward controls, no weight is being taken
on either arms or feet and so the design of the seat is even more
important.
c
Gentleman) wrote:
> <Looks at Heritage Softail Classic>
>
> Nah, looks more gay than a Liberace convention.
where were you a couple of days ago when we were talking about that
South Park show?
turns out the lot of us are FAGS!
Doug Payne
> The stock seat on my Street Bob, solid as a slab of rock, gave me
> every impression it would be uncomfortable for long days, just looking
> at it and feeling it. But then I rode it and, to my surprise, it's
> extremely comfortable; not an issue at all. I can sit on that thing
> all day long without discomfort. Must be that the shape is right.
For me, hard seats are far better than cushy. It's the shape that's
important.
Doug Payne
> where were you a couple of days ago when we were talking about that
> South Park show?
>
> turns out the lot of us are FAGS!
I was out for a ride yesterday in the nice weather, and at some point
passed a bunch of Harley riders. I couldn't resist, and did the
brum-brum-brum inside my helmet all the way by them. At the next little
town down the road another couple of Harley riders were just coming out
of the restaurant at the stop sign, so I brum-brum-brummed them too.
They just laughed. Even my wife thought it was pretty funny when I told
her about it later, and she usually has no sense of humour about that
kind of thing.
(This was a Sunday afternoon in Mennonite country, with lots of buggies
on the road heading home after church, so the group I passed was
actually pretty quiet when I went by them; I suspect I was making a lot
more noise than they were).
tomorrowat...@yahoo.com
Me too. I have a 2004 Electra Glide CVO SE103 leather seat on my 2006
Street Glide, and I installed it there the day I rode the bike home,
having taken it off the 2004 Road Glide that I traded. It now has
about 65,000 miles on it, and it is still - in the opinion of my
friends - hard as a slab of granite.
But it is broad, flat, firm, doesn't lock me into one position, is
comfortable for long distances, and doesn't make the bike look
awful. I'm happy with it. No passenger in the world with their
wits about them would agree to sit on the pillion portion of this
particular seat, though!
Vito
Farmers spend hours on their tractors. The seats are pressed steel. Like
y'all say, its the shape that counts.
don (Calgary)
wrote:
>
>Still riding.
>It got up to 13 today.
>Only had snow one day and it only settled for a few hours on the grass.
>The coldest so far was -8 which isn't cold enough to stop me unless it
>gets icy.
I hope the good weather hangs in there for you.
>
>Spring let go?
>That's what usually goes on the kick stand.
RGD suggested that too. I'll check it out.
Doug Payne
That probably explains a lot; I did a fair bit of time on a farm as a
kid. My great-uncle taught me how to drift a tractor in the
pig-shit-covered concrete barnyard when I was about 7 or 8. He also
taught me how to judge the speed of the manure spreader; if the turds
are flying over your head from behind, you're going too fast. They
should just be hitting the rear brim of your hat. Good times.
Robert Bolton
wrote:
>TOG@Toil wrote:
>
>> But I regard a seat as something really important on a bike. I mean,
>> it doesn't any more to design or build a comfy one as it does to
>> produce a torture rack, so why can't more manufacturers get it right?
>
>>> and doesn't make the bike look awful.
>
>That's the answer. Comfy seats have to be wide and shaped to fit
>the rider's posterior, which is generally at odds with what many
>potential buyers consider to be good looks. After enduring the
>hell on earth that many stock seats are after a few hours, those
>preconceptions go right out the window.
>
The stock seat on my Electra Glide is pretty good for what it is. It's
on the hard side but is wide, and contoured just a little so that the
pounds per square inch on almost every part of me is low enough to
prevent riding pains. I had to toss on the "almost" because the
leading edge of the seat seems to cut into my left thigh just enough
to cause discomfort after awhile. It's either the leading edge or my
tendons are telling me I need to be doing a little more stretching. I
guess I must be sitting a little crooked in the saddle for it to be
just one leg.
I'm still daydreaming about getting a Multistrada in a few years, even
though that stock seat feels like it is contoured for Sponge Bob.
Robert
The Older Gentleman
> I'm still daydreaming about getting a Multistrada in a few years, even
> though that stock seat feels like it is contoured for Sponge Bob.
It hasn't had a good press, the Multistrada seat. And the bike's been a
sales flop as well, it seems.
The Older Gentleman
> Farmers spend hours on their tractors. The seats are pressed steel. Like
> y'all say, its the shape that counts.
<Light dawns>
You're right, you know.
Bob Mann
> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:40:19 GMT, Bob Mann <bob...@mtsremove.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>Still riding.
>>It got up to 13 today.
>>Only had snow one day and it only settled for a few hours on the grass.
>>The coldest so far was -8 which isn't cold enough to stop me unless it
>>gets icy.
>
> I hope the good weather hangs in there for you.
Thanks.
Forecast looks passable. High of 13 today ion the sun.
Couple of possible rain days but highs above 0 all week.
How is it there?
>>
>>Spring let go?
>>That's what usually goes on the kick stand.
>
> RGD suggested that too. I'll check it out.
>
I saw you tightened up the nut that holds it in too.
Bob Mann
> Robert Bolton <robertbo...@gci.net> wrote:
>
>> I'm still daydreaming about getting a Multistrada in a few years, even
>> though that stock seat feels like it is contoured for Sponge Bob.
>
> It hasn't had a good press, the Multistrada seat. And the bike's been a
> sales flop as well, it seems.
>
>
Good concept but it's a bit ugly.
Especially for a Duc.
don (Calgary)
wrote:
>"don (Calgary)" <hd....@telus.net> wrote in
>news:4c7hf5hmlg8s3ienh...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:40:19 GMT, Bob Mann <bob...@mtsremove.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Still riding.
>>>It got up to 13 today.
>>>Only had snow one day and it only settled for a few hours on the grass.
>>>The coldest so far was -8 which isn't cold enough to stop me unless it
>>>gets icy.
>>
>> I hope the good weather hangs in there for you.
>
>Thanks.
>Forecast looks passable. High of 13 today ion the sun.
>Couple of possible rain days but highs above 0 all week.
>How is it there?
>
A bit better than seasonal which puts it in the high single digits,
but very windy.
Compared with what it could be, I'll take it.
Road Glidin' Don
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:03:46 GMT, Bob Mann <bobm...@mtsremove.net>
> wrote:
>
> >> I hope the good weather hangs in there for you.
>
> >Thanks.
> >Forecast looks passable. High of 13 today ion the sun.
> >Couple of possible rain days but highs above 0 all week.
> >How is it there?
>
> A bit better than seasonal which puts it in the high single digits,
> but very windy.
>
> Compared with what it could be, I'll take it.
Me too. If the roads are still good, we're still riding!
don (Calgary)
With a new bike in the fold I'd be thinking this is bonus time for
you!
Robert Bolton
(The Older Gentleman) wrote:
>Robert Bolton <robertbo...@gci.net> wrote:
>
>> I'm still daydreaming about getting a Multistrada in a few years, even
>> though that stock seat feels like it is contoured for Sponge Bob.
>
>It hasn't had a good press, the Multistrada seat. And the bike's been a
>sales flop as well, it seems.
The only Duc I've ever actually ridden was my friend's 50cc, in 1966 I
think. If it wasn't for the nostalgia I'd probably prefer a Triumph
for my next bike.
The Multistrada I liked was a 2007 or 8.
http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/newsandupdates/122_0609_2007_ducati_multistrada_1100/photo_02.html
I see there's a 1200cc version with a very different seat on it now.
http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/ducati/2010-ducati-multistrada-1200-preview-88888.html
The 2010 looks not pretty to me. The 150 hp would be nice, but I
think the older 1000cc with something like 95hp would be just fine.
Robert
The Older Gentleman
> The 2010 looks not pretty to me. The 150 hp would be nice, but I
> think the older 1000cc with something like 95hp would be just fine.
Sounds like a fair asessment. As ever with Ducati, it's two steps
forwards and then a smart shuffle back.
Bob Mann
news:30ckf59f62tjq6seu...@4ax.com:
> The 2010 looks not pretty to me. The 150 hp would be nice, but I
> think the older 1000cc with something like 95hp would be just fine.
>
To me the 2010 looks much better than the previous model.
TOG@Toil
> Robert Bolton <robertboltond...@gci.net> wrote innews:30ckf59f62tjq6seu...@4ax.com:
>
> > The 2010 looks not pretty to me. The 150 hp would be nice, but I
> > think the older 1000cc with something like 95hp would be just fine.
>
> To me the 2010 looks much better than the previous model.
>
of the new bike too, but I just wonder whether such a bike really
needs 150bhp. And look at the price...
Bob Mann
news:c815052f-4411-4f91...@m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com:
> On 11 Nov, 15:15, Bob Mann <bobm...@mtsremove.net> wrote:
>> Robert Bolton <robertboltond...@gci.net> wrote
>> innews:30ckf59f62tjq6seuk5
> s22m30h...@4ax.com:
>>
>> > The 2010 looks not pretty to me. � The 150 hp would be nice, but I
>> > think the older 1000cc with something like 95hp would be just fine.
>>
>> To me the 2010 looks much better than the previous model.
>>
> Having perused some pix toay, I've changed my mind. I prefer the looks
> of the new bike too, but I just wonder whether such a bike really
> needs 150bhp. And look at the price...
>
That part is insane unless offered as an upgrade option.
Looks like they are tring to use that platform as the new sport tourer/adv
tourer.
Timo Geusch
> Best seats ever, in my own experience? Moto Guzzi Spada, current BMW
> K11, old airhead BMW, Honda CX500. And the present Ducati's pretty
> good too.
Sir might want to try a good seat on the K11 to find out why all the
BMWs I own tend to acquire a modified/better seat within quite a short
timeframe.
The Corbin I've got for the 1150 is so much better than the OEM comfort
seat it's unreal.
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Robert Bolton
wrote:
>Robert Bolton <robertbo...@gci.net> wrote in
>news:30ckf59f62tjq6seu...@4ax.com:
>
>> The 2010 looks not pretty to me. The 150 hp would be nice, but I
>> think the older 1000cc with something like 95hp would be just fine.
>>
>
>To me the 2010 looks much better than the previous model.
I'm not a fan of so much air space at the rear of the 2010, which
shaped my first reaction to it. The bottom link has a photo of a
white one with black bags, which fill that void. A red one with black
bags (though black shows dirt REALLY bad)would be nice. I like the
2007's pipes under the seat but like the front end of the 2010. I've
always wondered just how warm the seat would get in stop and go
traffic. I wonder about fumes being too near a the riders too.
These links have more photos of both bikes.
http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/photos/2007models/2007models-Ducati-Multistrada1100.htm
http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bikes/2010-ducati-multistrada-1200-leaked-photos/
Robert
Robert Bolton
>Robert Bolton <robertbo...@gci.net> wrote in
>news:07uhf51c3vroituhi...@4ax.com:
>
>> prevent riding pains. I had to toss on the "almost" because the
>> leading edge of the seat seems to cut into my left thigh just enough
>> to cause discomfort after awhile. It's either the leading edge or my
>> tendons are telling me I need to be doing a little more stretching. I
>> guess I must be sitting a little crooked in the saddle for it to be
>> just one leg.
>
>
> Could it be the strap on yer chaps ride a little differntly on that side?
>;)
With my luck, it's probably an arthritic hip. I'm a leather pants kind
of guy, but I think I do sit different due to the heel shifter. My
left foot ends up sitting a little more forward than my right.
Robert
S'mee
> Robert Bolton <robertboltond...@gci.net> wrote innews:07uhf51c3vroituhi...@4ax.com:
>
> > prevent riding pains. I had to toss on the "almost" because the
> > leading edge of the seat seems to cut into my left thigh just enough
> > to cause discomfort after awhile. It's either the leading edge or my
> > tendons are telling me I need to be doing a little more stretching. I
> > guess I must be sitting a little crooked in the saddle for it to be
> > just one leg.
>
> ;)
Only cowboys and kids at halloween wear chaps... 8^)
Vito
| ...., but I think I do sit different due to the heel shifter. My
| left foot ends up sitting a little more forward than my right.
|
trips, moving my feet from heels on front end of boards chopper style to
toes on rear end of them sports style. Helps prevern cramps.
Bob Mann
1292f7...@a39g2000pre.googlegroups.com:
> Only cowboys and kids at halloween wear chaps... 8^)
>
I tried on a hat yesterday, does that count?
(I was bored, sure is slow these days)
S'mee
> "S'mee" <stevenkei...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:29762fea-c361-430c-8106-
> 1292f7f71...@a39g2000pre.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Only cowboys and kids at halloween wear chaps... 8^)
>
>
> http://www.wickedtemptations.com/w-a389.html
On her yes, on thee or me? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you a funny guy GI.
S'mee
> "TOG@Toil" <totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in news:b4ab5cfb-23a8-
> 487e-87a5-0c8aa5bf8...@g27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com:
>
> >>Nor have I ever bought a motorcycle with decent stock horn
> >> from any maker. ÿ
>
> > Oh, missed this. BMW, mate, BMW.
>
> My '95 K11LT was the first vehicle I ever owned on which I didn't replace
> the OEM horns.
My 79' GL1000 for me. I swear it sounds like a mid 70's Buick!
Robert Bolton
Yup, floorboards are great for touring for that reason. I've been
toying with the idea of getting one with a longer lever to get it out
of the way. I thought about removing it not long after I bought the
bike, but decided I prefer using it. This past summer I actually had
to rely on it to shift as the bike is getting really hard to shift
when it's cold. I'll check out the clutch this winter.
Robert
Vito
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Tim
> On 9 Nov, 12:17, "tomor...@erols.com"
>
> <tomorrowaterolsdot...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Nor have I ever bought a motorcycle with decent stock horn
> > from any maker.
>
> journo invented the "Grandmother Frightening Scale" for BMW horns. But
> yes, you're right: most horns are truly crappy.
I'd rather buy a Fiamm (and have, actually) horn and mount it on
another bike than buy a BMW to get a bike with a decent horn!
S'mee
But, but...that would make sense!
The Older Gentleman
> I'd rather buy a Fiamm (and have, actually) horn and mount it on
> another bike than buy a BMW to get a bike with a decent horn!
<Thinks>
You have a point.....