Hey RGD
Bob Mann
Okay?
(for those who weren't aware, it got down to -46C or -51F sunday
morning)
Bob
Mark Olson
Whaaaat????
Holy crap. That's close enough to here to be worrisome.
S'mee
Okay, you got me Bob. We haven't got that cold and likely wont break
-40F. You win...sucks doesn't it? 8^)
Road Glidin' Don
I'll see what I can do, Bob. This is kinda brutal.
Together with Gladys, I was putzing around in our (uninsulated) garage
on Saturday night, working on one of the bikes and drinking beer
(well, mostly just drinking beer). With the 75,000 BTU/hr portable
kerosene heater going full blast, non-stop, it could just barely keep
the temperature above zero farenheit in there, but it was enough.
The forecast is for above-freezing temperatures by Thursday though.
After this, that's gonna feel just like summer!
Vito
[ Together with Gladys, I was putzing around in our (uninsulated) garage
[ on Saturday night, working on one of the bikes and drinking beer
[ (well, mostly just drinking beer). With the 75,000 BTU/hr portable
[ kerosene heater going full blast, non-stop, it could just barely keep
[ the temperature above zero farenheit in there, but it was enough.
It's the Lord punishing you for all the mean things you said!
Forcaster says it might get down into the 60s (F) one night next week.
Wish I could send you some.
Anybody need a well used XXL BMW vest?
Tim Kreitz
> With the 75,000 BTU/hr portable
> kerosene heater going full blast, non-stop, it could just barely keep
> the temperature above zero farenheit in there, but it was enough.
Geeeez, dude. And I was complaining last week because it got down to
35 here in West Texas for a few days. I don't know what cold is.
I guess I'm just spoiled. After all it's currently 66ºF and sunny as I
type this post.
Stay warm, Don! (-:
Cheers,
Tim Kreitz
2004 ZRX1200R
2003 ZX7R
1973 S1A
DoD #2184
http://www.timkreitz.com
Road Glidin' Don
> "Road Glidin' Don" <d.lan...@gmail.com> wrote
> [ Together with Gladys, I was putzing around in our (uninsulated) garage
> [ on Saturday night, working on one of the bikes and drinking beer
> [ (well, mostly just drinking beer). With the 75,000 BTU/hr portable
> [ kerosene heater going full blast, non-stop, it could just barely keep
> [ the temperature above zero farenheit in there, but it was enough.
>
> It's the Lord punishing you for all the mean things you said!
Well, I guess I could have been more careful; speaking that way to a
Man of the Cloth and all... ;)
> Forcaster says it might get down into the 60s (F) one night next week.
<snip>
All this conversion of units. Actually, I misspoke and had meant to
say the heater could only keep the temp in the garage to zero
*Celsius*.
Doug Payne
>> Forcaster says it might get down into the 60s (F) one night next week.
> <snip>
>
> All this conversion of units. Actually, I misspoke and had meant to
> say the heater could only keep the temp in the garage to zero
> *Celsius*.
I wondered about that. There's tough, and then there's crazy. I like
beer as much as anyone, but not while sittin' in my garage at 0F!
Somewhere around 20 I switch to something with more anti-freeze in it.
MikeWhy
> With the 75,000 BTU/hr portable
> kerosene heater going full blast, non-stop, it could just barely keep
> the temperature above zero farenheit in there, but it was enough.
I wonder if you've given any thought at all to what happens to the
greenhouse gases in this use. Water vapor in this case being the important
one to consider. I suppose it would be interesting enough to bundle up just
to see it snow in the garage...
Mark Olson
Ummm, is that actual air temperature or Wind Chill?
Wind Chill doesn't count when you're going for real bragging rights...
just sayin'.
Wunderground.com doesn't show anything near -46C for a low on Sunday
13 Dec 2009.
http://www.climate.weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca/climateData/hourlydata_e.html
Has only one temperature reading for the 13th, -26.5C at 00:00.
The day before it got down to -28C.
Still pretty cold.
Road Glidin' Don
Yep, those kerosene forced-air heaters (burning diesel in my case)
give off a LOT of water vapour. In no time at all, the bikes are
coated in frost.
Lucky thing the garage is so poorly sealed against drafts. I'd have
accidentally gassed myself long ago otherwise.
Bob Mann
That was the air temperature.
http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/city/pages/ab-71_metric_e.html
The wind chill was much worse.
I thought it was cold here at -31C but that's pretty bad.
Road Glidin' Don
> Bob Mann wrote:
> > Don't send that crap this way.
> > Okay?
>
> > (for those who weren't aware, it got down to -46C or -51F sunday
> > morning)
>
> Ummm, is that actual air temperature or Wind Chill?
>
> Wind Chill doesn't count when you're going for real bragging rights...
> just sayin'.
You bet, Mark. The -46C we had was actual air temp. With wind chill
it was somewhere in the mid 50's in places.
I read we were the coldest spot in North America that day and the
second-coldest in the world. It exceeded the previous record low for
Edmonton on that day by 10 degrees Celsius.
tomorrowat...@yahoo.com
Temperature of -46C in Edmonton area makes it coldest in Canada:
meteorologist
(CP) – December 13, 2009
EDMONTON — There's one way to deal with some of the coldest winter
temperatures yet on the Prairies - outright denial.
At least that's how some folks were taking it as they strode into the
Edmonton airport over the weekend after arriving from their vacations
in Mexico, still dressed in their shorts and sporting tans.
Christopher Toutant walked out of the international arrivals area
still wearing Bermuda shorts and a light shirt.
It didn't occur to him to prepare for a record-breaking cold snap back
home.
Peter Spiker, a meteorologist with Environment Canada, says
temperatures in the Edmonton area early Sunday morning were among the
coldest anywhere in the country.
The mercury dipped to a frigid -46C at the Edmonton airport, making it
the coldest place in Canada, he said.
With the wind chill, it felt more like -59C.
Spiker said it crushed the same day coldest temperature record of
about -33C set in 1968.
The vacation buzz was soon to be killed when Toutant heard the pilot
announcing the current weather conditions as they landed in Edmonton.
"My smile kind of fell of my face and I think my tan fell off along
the way," he said with a chuckle.
Bob McDonald's tanned face stands out in stark comparison to the wind-
whipped, ruddy faces of others in the terminal who are wearing heavy
coats and gloves to fend off the cold.
He just spent nearly three weeks in sunny Mexico, where the
temperature was over 30C every day during his vacation.
When told how cold it was just outside those terminal doors, his eyes
widened in horror.
"I am in shock," he said.
Marie Scott thoughtfully brought along some winter gear to help her
daughter, son-in-law and grandson prepare for the weather after
returning from their winter getaway.
"I think they're going to want to turn around and go back. I would,"
she said. "I'm just trying to warm their jackets because they're going
to freeze just putting them on."
Environment Canada says record low temperatures were also set in other
areas of Alberta on the weekend, including Cold Lake, northeast of
Edmonton and in Grande Prairie, in the northwestern part of the
province.
Wind chill warnings were issued for areas of Alberta Saskatchewan as a
large mass of Arctic air hovered over the Prairies with conditions
that could feel like -50C.
The Alberta Motor Association also urged motorists to take along thick
blankets, warm clothing and an emergency kit if they're travelling
during the cold weather.
eCanada Now:
Edmonton Breaks Cold Record, -59C With The Windchll
Posted by Staff on Dec 14th, 2009
An official with Environment Canada said Sunday that the temperatures
reached in the Edmonton area Sunday night were the coldest in the
country.
Peter Spiker, meteorologist for the federal agency said a record cold
had been registered at the Edmonton airport: -46 degrees Celsius. With
the windchill, the temperature was -59. He added that the previous
mark was -33 in 1968.
Mr. Spiker, said record lows were also recorded in other parts of
Alberta, including Cold Lake, north of Edmonton and Grande Prairie in
the northwest of the province.
Environment Canada has issued wind chill warnings for areas of Alberta
and Saskatchewan during the weekend, since a large arctic air mass
hovering over the Prairies.
Mark Olson
I misunderstood. I thought you were saying it got to -46C in Winnipeg.
I still can't see that number anywhere on http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca
for Edmonton. For some reason half the readings on Dec 13th aren't there.
Maybe their instruments froze up. :)
The coldest air temperature I see listed for the 12th or 13th was -41.5C.
Mark Olson
> Bob Mann wrote:
>> On Dec 14, 5:17 pm, Mark Olson <ols...@tiny.invalid> wrote:
>>> Bob Mann wrote:
>>>> Don't send that crap this way.
>>>> Okay?
>>>> (for those who weren't aware, it got down to -46C or -51F sunday
>>>> morning)
>> That was the air temperature.
>> http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/city/pages/ab-71_metric_e.html
>> The wind chill was much worse.
>> I thought it was cold here at -31C but that's pretty bad.
>
> I misunderstood. I thought you were saying it got to -46C in Winnipeg.
> I still can't see that number anywhere on http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca
> for Edmonton. For some reason half the readings on Dec 13th aren't there.
> Maybe their instruments froze up. :)
>
> The coldest air temperature I see listed for the 12th or 13th was -41.5C.
I was looking at the hourly data. The daily data does indeed say -46.1C
was the low temperature for 13 Dec 2009 in Edmonton.
Respect.
Road Glidin' Don
> I was looking at the hourly data. The daily data does indeed say -46.1C
> was the low temperature for 13 Dec 2009 in Edmonton.
>
> Respect.
I would have commented, but my keyboard kept icing up!
Road Glidin' Don
I just remembered today that there's a good thing about this prolonged
cold snap. It might enough to kill off those pine beetles from B.C.
S'mee
Boy, you poeple are dense. Those "GG" are what drove off the last ice
age...that was in the little ice age for you GW weenies.
Chuck Rhode
> The mercury dipped to a frigid -46C at the Edmonton airport, making
> it the coldest place in Canada.
Can't be! Mercury freezes at -38.83 °C!
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Mark Olson
> On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:16:28 -0800, tomo...@erols.com wrote:
>
>> The mercury dipped to a frigid -46C at the Edmonton airport, making
>> it the coldest place in Canada.
>
> Can't be! Mercury freezes at -38.83 °C!
I think it's sort of a figure of speech, akin to "dialing" a phone.
Mark Olson
record low temperature for Calgary not the -40C measured in 1997
instead of the -32.2 measured in 1893? I suppose the simplest and
likeliest explanation is just poor editing/proofreading.
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http://www.660news.com/news/local/more.jsp?content=20091214_210122_3056
Calgary beats record set in 1893
Dominic Terry, Radana Suk, Kelly Turner and Lisa Grant 2009-12-14 20:02
Calgary has beaten a weather record set more than 100 years ago.
At about 7:00 Monday morning, Calgary dipped to minus 32.4 degrees
beating the old record by .2 degrees.
[snippage]
The record low temperature for Calgary is minus 32.2 set in 1893.
The last time the city hit minus 40C was in 1997.
[more snippage]
don (Calgary)
wrote:
Forget the statistics, IT WAS FUCKING COLD!
But this morning there was a Chinook arch in the western sky and the
big melt has begun. We were above zero for most of the day.
Four or five days like today and I will be able to take the bike out
for a spin.
Stephen B.
Records are normally reported for the specific day, so Monday
December 14th was the coldest December 14th on record, not the coldest
day ever
S'mee
<AOL>
what he said!
Mark Olson
> "Mark Olson" wrote
>> The record low temperature for Calgary is minus 32.2 set in 1893.
>> The last time the city hit minus 40C was in 1997.
> Records are normally reported for the specific day, so Monday
> December 14th was the coldest December 14th on record, not the coldest
> day ever
Doh! Of course, I know this, why I didn't think of it is a mystery.
But I do think that sentence was poorly written, it should have said
"the record low temperature for Calgary /on December 14th/ is minus
32.2, set in 1893".
don (Calgary)
wrote:
>Stephen B. wrote:
I had no problem understanding what you meant and at the end of the
day isn't that what is important.