(OT) Lawyers - Why Do People Hate Them?
Lowell
lawyers."
First, hang all the lawyers
Lowell wrote:
> Just curious what is behind the often times knee-jerk reaction "I hate
> lawyers."
Are you a Jew? Lawyers are crass and venal. So are Jews. A lawyer is
usually a Jew.
Every motorcycle-riding lawyer I know is a Jew. One of the Jewish
lawyers I used to ride with told me that he hated the fact that his
profession was regarded as fundamentally dishonest.
He didn't want to hear any lawyer jokes, like why great white sharks
never attacked lawyers.
Americans who have a issue at law usually believe that their problem
can be resolved by a balancing of absolute right VS. absolute wrong.
They are convinced of the justness of their position.
But lawyers are quite willing to do some fancy horse trading and
distort the truth of a matter in order to win a case.
The behavior of lawyers is very offensive. They take advantage of
clients in order to line their own pockets. I was trying to retain a
lawyer for a lawsuit once, and I called his office. His secretery told
me that he wouldn't be interested in the case.
Five minutes later, the attorney himself called me back and told me he
could fit me into his schedule if I would hurry down to his office. He
told me that the first thing I needed to do was write him a check for
$150.
Then he asked what I need from him and he fast talked me for half an
hour and told me he couldn't help me. So he had my $150 and what could
I do? Stop payment on the check? He'd sue me for triple damages and get
it.
I guess I bought the lawyer and his friends a nice lunch in a posh
restaurant downtown.
Find me a cite where people talked about a general hatred for lawyers
in the USA before the large Jewish immigration of the 1880's.
Johnathan Swift's satire of the English system of jurisprudence doesn't
count.
Bob Myers
"First, hang all the lawyers" <chas_k...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Every motorcycle-riding lawyer I know is a Jew.
I know at least three who aren't, so your basic assumption is already
shown to be wrong. Like there was any question about that in the
first place...
Bob M.
Rob Kleinschmidt
> Just curious what is behind the often times knee-jerk reaction "I hate
> lawyers."
Probably because the legal system is the worst possible alternative
except for all the others. One thing I finally learned:
Give your case to a busy man. There's a reason why some guys are
busy and others are just sitting there waiting for a client to
walk in the door. How comfortable would you feel walking into
an absolutely empty doctor's office ?
That being said, along with a couple of guys we fired, we've dealt with
at least three whom I consider very good lawyers. Two of them I feel
I owe big time for some major assistance in some family affairs and
one who did a quick competent job of cleaning up after his two fired
predecessors.
Beav
"Lowell" <lawd...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Just curious what is behind the often times knee-jerk reaction "I hate
> lawyers."
They're cunts?
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>
>"Lowell" <lawd...@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:1136408905....@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> Just curious what is behind the often times knee-jerk reaction "I hate
>> lawyers."
>
>They're cunts?
That's insulting.
To cunts.
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"Beav" <beavis....@ntlwoxoorld.com> wrote
>
> They're cunts?
Nah. I know several who're both honest and competent. (When you find honesty
and competence combined in an individual who practices *any* profession, you
have scored a rare find.)
Pete
jim rozen
says...
>
>Just curious what is behind the often times knee-jerk reaction "I hate
>lawyers."
Mostly divorces. Divorces suck and folks going through them are
one stop short of insanity. They'll have negative associations with
anyone they're in contact with during that event.
Also the fact that most of the complaints come from folks who
engage in what can most charitably be called "sharp business
practices." The folks who always try to scam something for
free.
Lawyers don't often succomb to their charms so the hatred is
a reflection of their unhappiness about having to finally pay
for something they're getting.
Why don't folks express such dislike of plumbers carpenters or
roofers? They're all just tradesmen.
Jim
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Charles Soto
> Just curious what is behind the often times knee-jerk reaction "I hate
> lawyers."
Because many of us are related to at least one...
Charles
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First, hang all the lawyers
> No wonder this guy got suckered out of $150 so easily.
That was nothing.
About 18 months before the fast talking lawyer ripped me off for $150,
I had another Jew lawyer rip me off for $2500.
It was a lawsuit stemming from a case where I called the police on a
guy who was harassing me, the cops arrested him and used force against
him.
Some shyster lawyer advised him to spend a week in the hospital,
feigning injuries.
Then he waited a year and then sued me and the city and the owner of
the building we lived in.
The Jew lawyer wanted a $2000 retainer, and his monthly bills were
another $250. Finally, after two months, he got around to telling me
that the statute of limitations on a civil suit ran out in a year and
the plaintiff had simply waited too long. He got the law suit
dismissed.
It seems to me that if he was any kind of a decent human being he
wouldn't have wanted so much money out of a bogus lawsuit like that.
Rob Kleinschmidt
First, hang all the lawyers wrote:
> The Jew lawyer wanted a $2000 retainer, and his monthly bills were
> another $250. Finally, after two months, he got around to telling me
> that the statute of limitations on a civil suit ran out in a year and
> the plaintiff had simply waited too long. He got the law suit
> dismissed.
>
> It seems to me that if he was any kind of a decent human being he
> wouldn't have wanted so much money out of a bogus lawsuit like that.
Maybe he just liked you every bit as much as you liked him.
Probably your best course of action would be to seek out yet
another Jewish lawyer then come whine about it on the
internet.
Joe
> Every motorcycle-riding lawyer I know is a Jew.
CLIP
Although a bunch of stuff in this post is basically offensive or useless to
me, I really loved this part... Only because it made me think, and the
truth is that the only motorcycle riding lawyers I know are Jewish too.
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Paladin
>Just curious what is behind the often times knee-jerk reaction "I hate
>lawyers."
Because a good lawyer will do anything he legally can to defend
someone he knows is guilty.
Ari Rankum
>
>>Just curious what is behind the often times knee-jerk reaction "I hate
>>lawyers."
>
>
> Are you a Jew? Lawyers are crass and venal. So are Jews. A lawyer is
> usually a Jew.
You sure do sound a lot like Michael Jackson. Put the little boys down
and back away from USENET.
P.Roehling
"Paladin" <ls650{modelname}@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Uh, the entire justice system is built around that concept. Do you have a
good (or even bad) suggestion for another way of doing it? (Besides, I know
a bunch of defense attorneys, and I can inform you that outside of TV dramas
like "Perry Mason", real criminals rarely if ever confess their sins to
their lawyers. They would have to be insane to do so.)
Pete
First, hang all the lawyers
> Why don't folks express such dislike of plumbers carpenters or
> roofers? They're all just tradesmen.
Bullshit. A tradesman has to complete the work and produce satisfactory
results. A lawyer can throw your case and you still have to pay him or
he will use the court system to get his pound of flesh.
After witnessing the recent slew of high profile celebrities getting
acquitted by tricky lawyers, how can ordinary citizens have any respect
for lawyers?
jim rozen
all the lawyers says...
>
>jim rozen wrote:
>
>> Why don't folks express such dislike of plumbers carpenters or
>> roofers? They're all just tradesmen.
>
>Bullshit. A tradesman has to complete the work and produce satisfactory
>results.
Ha haa haa. You sir are either a tradesman, or have never hired one.
The rate of shysters and charlatans is even across the professions.
First, hang all the lawyers
jim rozen wrote:
> In article <1136463072.9...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, First, hang
> all the lawyers says...
> >Bullshit. A tradesman has to complete the work and produce satisfactory
> >results.
>
> Ha haa haa. You sir are either a tradesman, or have never hired one.
>
> The rate of shysters and charlatans is even across the professions.
Being a tradesmen or being a professional are two different ways of
making a living. The tradesman or artisan trades his physical work for
wages, while the professional relies upon his intelligence or wit, as
in the case of a lawyer or artist. The professional gets paid by salary
or commission. The tradesman gets wages or gets paid by the job.
The difference between an artist and an artisan is that the artist
makes only one painting or statue, and no other exact copy, while an
artisan makes many identical copies.
I have seen my share of shysters and charlatans, but a tradesman has to
have a license to operate, and if he doesn't meet his contractual
obligations often enough, the complaints will mount up and he will lose
his license.
And it's interesting that you used the term "shyster". It comes from
the German *scheisser* (shitter) and it's a slang term that generally
refers to a lawyer who uses unethical or tricky methods.
A "charlatan" is a person who claims to have knowledge or skill that he
actually lacks.
I have seen many charlatans working in civil service. They found their
positions by claiming experience and knowledge that they lacked and
even got licenses to operate equipment that they didn't understand.
Since civil service often doesn't require anybody to actually do any
work, they were able to keep their positions for a decade or more.
But I don't think a charlatan could ever make it through law school.
His professors would find him out immediately, he wouldn't be able to
bullshit his way through the classes.
Oci-One Kanubi
$2,500.00? Dude, that's small change! I mean, when you consider that
the current President of the United States, who is not a lawyer and not
a Jew, bilked "investors" out of millions of dollars during the years
in which he ran two oil-exploration firms that never made a cent, yer
$2,500.00 looks like small change! That's ancient history though; it
was even before he arranged to have the city council set up a QGO
(quasi-government organization) to take (steal, rip-off) property from
unwilling sellers to build the Texas Rangers stadium.
Or how 'bout Mr. Cheney's energy-industry cronies in Enron? Not
lawyers, but they screwed hundreds of employees out of millions in
pension funds. You, on the other hand, got screwed in a very small
way.
You wanted legal advice? You got it. You paid for it. And now yer
whining about it.
Yer sadder, but evidently no wiser. Just imagine if you had had a
Jewish mother (figuratively speaking) who insisted that you study hard
and grow up to be a doctor or a lawyer. Then you would be the one
raking in the big bucks and some other loser would be the one whining
about lawyers.
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Oci-One Kanubi
> CLIP
>
> > Every motorcycle-riding lawyer I know is a Jew.
>
> CLIP
>
> Although a bunch of stuff in this post is basically offensive or useless to
> me, I really loved this part... Only because it made me think, and the
> truth is that the only motorcycle riding lawyers I know are Jewish too.
Heh heh. So what yer saying is, the only cool lawyers are Jewish. The
only lawyers who share our values[1] are Jewish. Interesting.
[1] At least, those values pertaining to motorcycles and riding.
Oci-One Kanubi
> Just curious what is behind the often times knee-jerk reaction "I hate
> lawyers."
You live in a country that has a phenomenally low regard for educators,
education, and educated people. Just look at how even the President of
the United States has stood up and pronounced that he doesn't "believe
in" global warming or that Creationism (rebranded as "Intelligent
Design") is worthy of equal consideration with evolution (which he and
the rest of the ignorant refer to as "Darwinism").
Do he and the rest of the great uneducated American public not believe
in gravity? After all, it too is "just a theory". Or how about time?
Or light? Time, light, gravity, evolution, and global warming are not
subjects for belief or disbelief. They are objective entities. They
simply exist, independent of any human belief system. The "theories"
are our attempts to understand and explain these entities, but the
entities themselves exist with or without the President's (and other
ignoramus's) belief.
Ours is a culture of sneering at that which we do not understand, and
at those who actually study and try to understand. American law is
built upon threads which predate Christianity; threads that go back to
the ancient Greeks, to the old Testament, to the Hammarabi Code. And
lawyers, ideally (and in some cases actually), enter law school after
graduating with a Liberal Arts degree which includes study of the
philosophical and historical underpinnings of American law. IOW,
lawyers are ideally (and in some cases actually) highly educated
people, and thus ripe for the scorn and envy of the great uneducated
masses.
American law (to digress and address one of the more moronic responses
you received), as incorporated by the Founders, expanded by Congress
and the States, and supported by the American Bar Association, was
designed prior to the arival in this country of any measurable Jewish
population. It wasn't the Jews who propagated the philosophy that
EVERY American is entitled to the best possible legal representation.
There are probably a lot of lawyers who HATE representing the bad guys,
but who do so out of respect for our country, our Constitution, and our
legal system. And, of course, as with any large group of people, there
is some percentage of sleazeballs.
So, in a nutshell, so many people hate lawyers because there is a huge
strain of anti-intellectualism in our country; of ignorant people
celebrating ignorance.
Oci-One Kanubi
Actually, you mean:
"Because a lawyer is obliged by American law and his professional code
to take every possible legal action to defend his client, and to avoid
allowing his personal opinion about that client's guilt or innocence to
affect those actions."
As for his billing patterns; hey [humor alert], you try making the
payments on a McMansion and two Mercedes, and the educations of 2.3
children destined for Law or Med School!
Greek Shipping Magnets
<nett...@combogusinfocast.net> wrote:
>Because Lawyers are paid for zeal... whereas fools dish it out for free...
You could say the same thing about prostitutes.
Greek Shipping Magnets
wrote:
>You live in a country that has a phenomenally low regard for educators,
>education, and educated people.
No you whiny, tree-hugging, lawyer-loving liberal idiot.
You live in a country that has such a phenominally low regard for
politics that all educated people freely ignore them whilst grabbing a
two-fisted slice of the American dream. Leaving the uneducated rabble
who should know better to hit each other over the head every four
years.
Face it... when was the last time any political grassroots group got
what they were promised? Never. The ones who actually do get anything
are the Americans who don't play politics but line both parties'
pockets equally. Guaranteeing success no matter which cowboy rode into
town.
So while the homosexuals are still waiting for their civil rights to
be recognized, the working stiff still waiting for tax relief and
universal healthcare, the environmentalcases still waiting for those
alternative energy sources and banning of the ICE, the Christian
groups still getting it in the ass from MTV, etc... REAL AMERICANS are
enjoying their bountiful tax cuts, skyrocketing stock and housing
markets, international trade and most comfortable standard of living
since like, ever!
Vito
> ...... How comfortable would you feel walking into
> an absolutely empty doctor's office ?
>
after your appointment? Because MDs learn to schedule appointments to make sure
you wait as part of medical school.
Vito
> Mostly divorces. ....
Prolly true. A couple I knew decided to split. They had no kids and agreed to
split the equity in the house. She wanted to keep the house. Her lawyer had it
appraised, subtracted the remaining mortgage and the realtor fees it'd cost to
sell it, then offered him half the difference - because that'd be what he'd get
if they sold the place. His lawyer balked, saying she should not have
subtracted the realtor fees - that hubby was being cheated. The friendly divorce
got hostile. In the end, they sold the house. A realtor got the fees and the
two lawyers got most of the equity. Both principals lost big.
jim rozen
all the lawyers says...
>> The rate of shysters and charlatans is even across the professions.
>
>Being a tradesmen or being a professional are two different ways of
>making a living. The tradesman or artisan trades his physical work for
>wages, while the professional relies upon his intelligence or wit, as
>in the case of a lawyer or artist. The professional gets paid by salary
>or commission. The tradesman gets wages or gets paid by the job.
Attorneys often bill by the hour. So you would class them as
tradesmen.
The story is that the plumber gets called by the lawyer in the middle
of the night because the toilet is leaking. The plumber shows up,
and tightens one fitting to stop the leak, it takes five minutes.
He then presents a bill for two hundred dollars.
The lawyer balks - "that's over two thousand dollars an hour, it's
outragous. I'm a professional attorney and even *I* don't bill that
much."
And the plumber says "neither could I, when I was a lawyer."
Paladin
wrote:
>Paladin wrote:
>> On 4 Jan 2006 13:08:25 -0800, "Lowell" <lawd...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Just curious what is behind the often times knee-jerk reaction "I hate
>> >lawyers."
>>
>> Because a good lawyer will do anything he legally can to defend
>> someone he knows is guilty.
>
>
>Actually, you mean:
>
>"Because a lawyer is obliged by American law and his professional code
>to take every possible legal action to defend his client, and to avoid
>allowing his personal opinion about that client's guilt or innocence to
>affect those actions."
No, that is not what I meant. Lawyers have been despised for
thousands of years -- long before American law existed.
IMO, this is because they will defend a person they know is guilty
pieface
> In article <1136463072.9...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, First, hang
> all the lawyers says...
>
>>jim rozen wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Why don't folks express such dislike of plumbers carpenters or
>>>roofers? They're all just tradesmen.
>>
>>Bullshit. A tradesman has to complete the work and produce satisfactory
>>results.
>
>
> Ha haa haa. You sir are either a tradesman, or have never hired one.
>
> The rate of shysters and charlatans is even across the professions.
>
> Jim
>
>
passes through your area.
Rob Kleinschmidt
To do that, ya gotta have patients. If the office is completely empty
except for the doctor and especially if there's no receptionist, run
like hell because your life depends on it.
What you really, really don't want to do is give your case to
somebody who has nothing else to do with his time (and no
other way to generate billable hours). Try it sometime and
report back how many hours work it took to resolve your
problem.
First, hang all the lawyers!
Oci-One Kanubi wrote:
> $2,500.00? Dude, that's small change! (snip irrelevant comparison to big time crooks)
$2500 was more than a month's pay for me. That's NOT small change to an
honest working class
citizen when some nutcase decides to test the depths of the city's
pockets and includes everybody
else that he can think of.
> You wanted legal advice? You got it. You paid for it. And now yer
> whining about it.
No, I wanted legal representation in court. The Jew lawyer never
appeared in court with me, he just made a few phone calls to the other
party's lawyer, determined that the lawsuit was filed after the
delimiting date, and appeared *once* in court to get the matter
dismissed, with the other attorney agreeing to drop the matter.
My asshole lawyer should have charged me no more than about $600 for
his efforts, if he had to put in 4 hours at $150 an hour.
>
> Yer sadder, but evidently no wiser. Just imagine if you had had a
> Jewish mother (figuratively speaking) who insisted that you study hard
> and grow up to be a doctor or a lawyer. Then you would be the one
> raking in the big bucks and some other loser would be the one whining
> about lawyers.
My mother was half Jewish. But her mother wasn't a Jew, so she wasn't a
Jew and neither am I.
She never suggested any line of work whatever to me. She just gave me
lots of books and told me to go read them and be quiet.
Hank
> Just curious what is behind the often times knee-jerk reaction
> "I hate lawyers."
I greatly admire the lawyer that got my Class B Felony
charges dropped. I was facing 8.5 - 25 years in a cage.
OTOH, I'm repulsed by my ex-girlfriend's incompetent
divorce lawyer who has taken her for about $50K so far.
People who blindly spew "I hate lawyers", =simply= aren't
thinking. Some are good, others are scum. Like you said,
they're jerking their knees.
But, WTF does this have to do with MOTORCYCLES?????!!!!
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Hank
> "Oci-One Kanubi" <rho...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>You live in a country that has a phenomenally low regard
>>for educators, education, and educated people.
> No you whiny, tree-hugging, lawyer-loving liberal idiot.
> You live in a country that has such a phenominally low regard for
> politics that all educated people freely ignore them
Only ignorant sheep ignore the behavior and policies of
those who spend their money and pass laws that directly affect
their lives. If I didn't know you were trolling I'd be convinced
that you're stupid.
> REAL AMERICANS are enjoying their bountiful tax cuts, skyrocketing
> stock and housing markets, international trade and most comfortable
>standard of living since like, ever!
Indeed I'm doing all that, but not at the expense
of a watchful eye on the rogue criminal parasites and
war criminals who are attempting to destroy my once
Great Country. Pull yer head out of bu$h's anus and
take a look around you, fool!
--
Rob Kleinschmidt
> Oci-One Kanubi wrote:
>
> > $2,500.00? Dude, that's small change! (snip irrelevant comparison to big time crooks)
>
> $2500 was more than a month's pay for me. That's NOT small change to an
> honest working class
> citizen when some nutcase decides to test the depths of the city's
> pockets and includes everybody
> else that he can think of.
>
> > You wanted legal advice? You got it. You paid for it. And now yer
> > whining about it.
>
> No, I wanted legal representation in court. The Jew lawyer never
> appeared in court with me, he just made a few phone calls to the other
> party's lawyer, determined that the lawsuit was filed after the
> delimiting date, and appeared *once* in court to get the matter
> dismissed, with the other attorney agreeing to drop the matter.
>
> My asshole lawyer should have charged me no more than about $600 for
> his efforts, if he had to put in 4 hours at $150 an hour.
Nobody made you go to him. Of the $2500, $2000 was a retainer,
so you knew it would cost you that much. Nobody prevented
you from going down to the law library to research it yourself.
You knew up front about what it would cost, so the basic complaint
is he should have given you some money back since it turned
out to be easier than you thought it would be.
Sounds like you were charged a retainer plus four hours work.
If you didn't understand the terms of a contract that you entered
into and didn't shop around ahead of time to see if this was the
going rate, I don't have much sympathy.
> > Yer sadder, but evidently no wiser. Just imagine if you had had a
> > Jewish mother (figuratively speaking) who insisted that you study hard
> > and grow up to be a doctor or a lawyer. Then you would be the one
> > raking in the big bucks and some other loser would be the one whining
> > about lawyers.
>
> My mother was half Jewish. But her mother wasn't a Jew, so she wasn't a
> Jew and neither am I.
>
> She never suggested any line of work whatever to me. She just gave me
> lots of books and told me to go read them and be quiet.
Did she also teach you to feel sorry for yourself and blame others for
any decisions which you later regret ? Maybe you should have gotten
a special discount because you were more deserving ? Act like a
frikkin adult fer crissakes.
I had the honor of dropping several tens of thousands of hard earned
dollars to defend myself in a lawsuit. My conclusion at the end of it
is that the law ought to be more accessible to people without a lawyer.
I learned a few lessons the hard way about how not to pick a lawyer,
but what I'm not doing is sitting around whining about the Jews, or
in this case, the Irish and Italians.
We fired two lawyers, then found a third who made the case go away
quickly and efficiently and came in below his initial estimate. That
was all I really asked or expected.
Wakko
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> But, WTF does this have to do with MOTORCYCLES?????!!!!
OMG, the irony is killing me here.
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Greek Shipping Magnets
Confuscious say:
"Mafia hitman fee is much less than lawyer."
Greek Shipping Magnets
>Indeed I'm doing all that (taking advantage of Bush's tax cuts),
>but not at the expense of a watchful eye on the rogue criminal parasites and
>war criminals who are attempting to destroy my once
>Great Country.
Translation from the Hankubator:
"I scream and yell and pretend I don't like it when my liberal wiccan
mommy masturbates me. And then I come."
Alan B
<1136427177....@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "First, hang
all the lawyers" <chas_k...@yahoo.com> spake thusly:
>
>About 18 months before the fast talking lawyer ripped me off for $150,
>I had another Jew lawyer rip me off for $2500.
So, Charles, how do you feel about Irish Catholic judges?
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jesbeard
First, hang all the lawyers! wrote:
Seems to me your lawyer probably charged far less than he should have
for being forced to deal with you.
FloridaGuy
First, hang all the lawyers! wrote:
First, hang all the lawyers!
Alan B wrote:
> So, Charles, how do you feel about Irish Catholic judges?
I'm neutral towards the Irish, as I have Irish ancestry from Galway and
Belfast.
But I'm suspicious of Papists.
America was founded to protect Protestants from the Catholic
Inquisition and the Papal Bull-shit.
But, if Protestants ever have saints, I will nominate Henry VIII for
sainthood.
At least he tried to get England out from under the Pope's thumb. He
ran the Catholics underground while he seized their lands and pulled
down their abbeys.
first, hang all the lawyers!
Actual wrote:
> On 8 Jan 2006 20:27:44 -0800, First, hang all the lawyers! said:
>
> >America was founded to protect Protestants from the Catholic
> >Inquisition and the Papal Bull-shit.
>
So. Did you catch "The Madness of Henry VIII" on the History Channel
last night?
It tied a lot of strings together, like how Catherine of Aragon was the
aunt of the Holy Roman emperor, Charles V, who had held the Pope
prisoner in the Vatican. So the Pope was afraid to grant Henry the
divorce he wanted so desperately.
'Twas more than a bit over-dramatized, but it pointed out how the Roman
Catholic church owned one quarter of all the land in England! When
Henry seized the church's land he added the equivalent of $250 million
to his treasury.
And, didja notice what he did to his lawyer, Thomas Cromwell, when
Cromwell couldn't deliver?
Gotta love it!
first, hang all the lawyers!
First, hang all the lawyers wrote:
> Lowell wrote:
> > Just curious what is behind the often times knee-jerk reaction "I hate
> > lawyers."
>
> usually a Jew.
(snip experiential wisdom)
> Find me a cite where people talked about a general hatred for lawyers
> in the USA before the large Jewish immigration of the 1880's.
Since nobody rose to the occasion, here's a clue for you clueless
yuppie motorcycle owners:
Research the subject of law in the Deep South during Reconstruction.
Google up
"Yankee Carpetbagger"....
first, hang all the lawyers!
Ari Rankum wrote:
> First, hang all the lawyers wrote:
> > Are you a Jew? Lawyers are crass and venal. So are Jews. A lawyer is
> > usually a Jew.
>
> You sure do sound a lot like Michael Jackson. Put the little boys down
> and back away from USENET.
Hey, what was the ethnicity of Mikey's lawyer, that Gheragos (sp?)
dude? Was he a sephardic Son of Abraham, or what?
See, the thing about Orthodox schmucks is that they have a choice
between becoming a doctor, dentist, lawyer, or rabbi to make their
Yiddischer Mama proud.
So they go to Yeshiva school and they learn to debate the Talmud and
the Torah, and if they are really smart, they realize that there's a
ton of money in practicing law.
Which recent nigger celebrity was advised that he had a choice between
a nigger lawyer and a Jew lawyer? Was it OJ?
He was reported to have said, "I don't want no nigger lawyer. Get the
Jew."
Every nigger celebrity who catches a case, knows by now that he should
get a defense team of at least one gefiltefischer and one slick
jive-talking black lawyer and that he needs to have his case tried in a
venue where his lawyers can empanel a majority of blacks.
Rob Kleinschmidt
first, hang all the lawyers! wrote:
> Ari Rankum wrote:
> Every nigger celebrity who catches a case, knows by now that he should
> get a defense team of at least one gefiltefischer and one slick
> jive-talking black lawyer and that he needs to have his case tried in a
> venue where his lawyers can empanel a majority of blacks.
You are truly one sorry asshole with too much time on his hands.
Hope this helps fill your need for attention.
First, hang all the lawyers!
Rob Kleinschmidt wrote:
> You are truly one sorry asshole with too much time on his hands.
> Hope this helps fill your need for attention.
Oh, yes, it does. This interactive media is a lot more fun that pulling
the wings off of flies. People actually spend their valuable time
answering anything I might dare to say.
I wonder what motivates intelligent people to respond to trolls such as
me?
Is is some sense of self righteousness? Do they suppose I might
apologize for the
calculatedly insulting troll or do they think I might just go away if
they call me names?
And, what happened to Lowell, the OP? Did he get the answer he wanted,
or did he just throw out the shiny hook and the stinky bait to see
who'd bite at it?
Rob Kleinschmidt
First, hang all the lawyers! wrote:
> Rob Kleinschmidt wrote:
>
> > You are truly one sorry asshole with too much time on his hands.
> > Hope this helps fill your need for attention.
>
> Oh, yes, it does. This interactive media is a lot more fun that pulling
> the wings off of flies. People actually spend their valuable time
> answering anything I might dare to say.
Well then let me repeat, you are truly one sorry asshole with too much
time on his hands. I'll try to remember to drop a note periodically.
> I wonder what motivates intelligent people to respond to trolls such as
> me?
Boredom, combined with a sense of contempt for whiney folks who
spend lots of time feeling sorry for themselves.
Have a nice day.
Beav
"Bob Mann" <wil...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:a6qor15bc0rtrgl87...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 00:01:56 -0000, "Beav"
> <beavis....@ntlwoxoorld.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Lowell" <lawd...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>news:1136408905....@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>> Just curious what is behind the often times knee-jerk reaction "I hate
>>> lawyers."
>>
>
>
> That's insulting.
>
>
>
> To cunts.
That's very true Robert and I apologise to any cunt reading that (or this:-)
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Bob Mann
<beavis....@ntlwoxoorld.com> wrote:
>
>"Bob Mann" <wil...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:a6qor15bc0rtrgl87...@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 00:01:56 -0000, "Beav"
>> <beavis....@ntlwoxoorld.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Lowell" <lawd...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1136408905....@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Just curious what is behind the often times knee-jerk reaction "I hate
>>>> lawyers."
>>>
>>>They're cunts?
>>
>>
>> That's insulting.
>>
>>
>>
>> To cunts.
>
>That's very true Robert and I apologise to any cunt reading that (or this:-)
I've met a lot more agreeable cunts in my life than agreeable lawyers.
;-)
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Bob Mann
Thanks to TV and for the convenience of TV, you can only be one of two kinds
of human beings, either a liberal or a conservative.
- Kurt Vonnegut
Alan B
<pug4s1lrba00v3iup...@4ax.com>, Actual Rider spake
thusly:
>On 8 Jan 2006 20:27:44 -0800, First, hang all the lawyers! said:
>
>>America was founded to protect Protestants from the Catholic
>>Inquisition and the Papal Bull-shit.
>
>Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.
Cardinal Fang, fetch the comfy chair!
Vito
> >>America was founded to protect Protestants from the Catholic
> >>Inquisition and the Papal Bull-shit.
> >
First, hang all the lawyers!
The original colonists of Massachusetts and Maryland are all dead, but
they were my ancestors and what happened is what happened. Maryland
accepted Catholics and Huguenots and Jews, so some of my ancestors went
there.
Massachusetts did not accept Catholics, Jews, Baptists, or Quakers, so
some of my relatives went to Rhode Island, where they petitioned king
Charles (a Catholic) for religious amnesty.
They got such amnesty and were granted control of Rhode Island in
perpetuity in 1663.
It's a historical fact that one of my relatives was among the
hysterical teenaged girls at Salem who accused the old Black slave of
giving them the "evil eye" and bewitching them.
While it's well-known that the Puritans were religious bigots, at least
they were not Roman Catholics, obeying the Pope's commands. And America
has never had anything like the Inquisition, which tortured and killed
millions over whether they actually believed what they were required to
believe by their vows.
Stupendous Man
the following question.
Why do dogs lick their balls?
-
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
jim rozen
Not Salem, it was actually closer to Danvers.
Jim
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<snip>
>America was founded to protect Protestants from the Catholic
>Inquisition and the Papal Bull-shit.
Actually, the pilgrims went to Holland for religious freedom. They
didn't care for it, so they came to America to be without it. The
freedom of religion in our constitution derives from the Virginia
constitution, and the pilgrims were in Massachusetts.
Al Moore
DoD 734
Ari Rankum
> The
> freedom of religion in our constitution derives from the Virginia
> constitution,
I always wondered about the origin of the statement, "yes, Virginia,
there is a Santa Claus."
Thanks, Al. Thanks very much.
Vito
> Vito wrote:
> > Somebody said:
> > > >>America was founded to protect Protestants from the Catholic
> > > >>Inquisition and the Papal Bull-shit.
> > > >
> > Bwahahahaha! Tell the people in Maryland and Salem Mass all about it.
>
And yet there were witch hunts, showing that America was NOT founded to protect
Protestants from Catholics - that Protestants needed protection from themselves.
IIRC Luther protested what he saw as liberalization and a move away from witch
burning.
>
> While it's well-known that the Puritans were religious bigots, at least
> they were not Roman Catholics, obeying the Pope's commands.....
I wonder if any of the "witches" they murdered cared about that.
First, hang all the lawyers!
> > Massachusetts did not accept Catholics, ....
>
> And yet there were witch hunts, showing that America was NOT founded to protect
> Protestants from Catholics - that Protestants needed protection from themselves.
> IIRC Luther protested what he saw as liberalization and a move away from witch
> burning.
Massachusetts in the 1690's was a totalitarian theocracy. Any
non-parliamentary monarchy is automatically a totalitarian state. The
Puritans would not have been in America if the English parliament
hadn't been so weak that the Stuart kings could walk all over them. It
doesn't take much for a totalitarian state to look for a scapegoat to
blame all problems on.
It took another hundred years before Europe became "enlightened" and
embraced "The Rights of Man". The French populace figured that all
their problems were caused by the nobility.
*Then* they began denouncing and guillotining everybody who didn't
follow the party line of the French revolution.
Fortunately that mess didn't get over to America. We already had our
constitution and understood very well why we needed a separation
between church and state. It was to keep the Catholics from becoming
the state religion.
A bunch of good lawyers (there's an oxymoron, "good" lawyers) wrote a
pretty good document. After it was ratified, we should have hung 'em.
> >
> > While it's well-known that the Puritans were religious bigots, at least
> > they were not Roman Catholics, obeying the Pope's commands.....
>
> I wonder if any of the "witches" they murdered cared about that.
Some of them probably figured that if they confessed, they'd be
forgiven. But common people were very simple in those those days. They
often had no idea what excesses a totalitarian state could go to in the
pursuit of an ideal.
We've come a long way though. We don't torture people for having
different beliefs.
We're pretty safe from gummint and religion nowadays. Just listen for
mysterious clicks on your telephone when you order take out Arabic food
from your local Al Qaida cell.
Oh, well, you're probably not all that into hummus and pita and tajine
and cous-cous anyway. Big Bubba is probably not watching you.
Vito
> constitution and understood very well why we needed a separation
> between church and state. It was to keep the Catholics from becoming
> the state religion.
Didn't do much good then. The current 'Right to Life' movement is mostly
Protestant but is wholly based on the Papal notion that human life begins at
conception instead of the anglo-american 'quickening'. Moreover with the new
justice our Supreme Court will have a Catholic majority.