Stoner threw away the bike @ warm-up
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Andrew
How about not posting SPOILERS!!!
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+1 to that. Just DON'T DO IT, OK?
And here's a big up for Spies. Not just getting 7th, but beating Dovi
and helping his new team mate to 5th and best Human Being (so not an
alien).
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Chris Paine
> He will never become a champ.
He's already been the Champ, so that's that theory out the window.
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Ed Light
> How about not posting SPOILERS!!!
In case you don't know what Andrew means, it's for people who will watch
a delayed TV broadcast of the race not to know anything about it, like
not knowing the plot of a movie beforehand.
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> Andrew wrote:
>
>> How about not posting SPOILERS!!!
>
> In case you don't know what Andrew means, it's for people who will watch
> a delayed TV broadcast of the race not to know anything about it, like
> not knowing the plot of a movie beforehand.
Hey, the same applies to you. I have killfiled the idiot poster,
but change the subject line, will you?
pablo
wtf happened to stoner? one doesn't see that too often in motogp these
days, someone tossing it in warmup so bad they can not race...
i agree the big news for the race are (a) the great finish to the
season by edwards on a "privateer" bike (b) enter Ben Spies. very very
impressive. edwards will have a heck of a time staying in front of him
next year. oh and (c) what a ride by pedrosa. when he is on he is on.
twice a year, tops. :)
as to spoilers - i never make it to this newgroup unless i want to
hear what happened in a race or want to hear opinions about it. i
agree it is bad form, but then again people do react to sports
emotionally, so spoilers happen... i think the OP's intent was to
share his shock rather than ruin the race for others...
so another season over. rossi cements his legend quite crushingly.
lorenzo ends the season looking again utterly unpredictable. the
stoner mystery continues. pedrosa firmly controls a teammate who
several (ok i did) thought would relegate him to second spot in honda.
honda... are they really ok playing second tier?
Andrew
"pablo" <pa...@simplyhombre.net> wrote in message
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>
> wtf happened to stoner? one doesn't see that too often in motogp these
> days, someone tossing it in warmup so bad they can not race...
>
> i agree the big news for the race are (a) the great finish to the
> season by edwards on a "privateer" bike (b) enter Ben Spies. very very
> impressive. edwards will have a heck of a time staying in front of him
> next year. oh and (c) what a ride by pedrosa. when he is on he is on.
> twice a year, tops. :)
>
> as to spoilers - i never make it to this newgroup unless i want to
> hear what happened in a race or want to hear opinions about it. i
> agree it is bad form, but then again people do react to sports
> emotionally, so spoilers happen... i think the OP's intent was to
> share his shock rather than ruin the race for others...
There has been some other interesting news with Tardozzi and Suppo this
week.
I came to the group this a.m. wanting to finish reading up on that thread.
I certainly didn't think that I would get a spoiler at 8am pacific time.
The race was barely over by that time. It is apparent I was wrong.
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sturd
> How about not posting SPOILERS!!!
Relying on the whole world to act/not act in
a way that will make you happy seems like
a sure fire way to be disappointed.
Besides, this is a Usenet NEWS group.
Go fast. Take chances.
Mike S.
Ed Light
> wtf happened to stoner? one doesn't see that too often in motogp these
> days, someone tossing it in warmup so bad they can not race...
http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/154487/1/grid_strategy_blamed_for_stoner_warm-up_lap_disaster.html
Julian Bond
>Andrew whinges:
>> How about not posting SPOILERS!!!
>
>Relying on the whole world to act/not act in
>a way that will make you happy seems like
>a sure fire way to be disappointed.
>
>Besides, this is a Usenet NEWS group.
All true. But just don't post spoilers, m'kay?
Julian Bond
>pablo wrote:
>> wtf happened to stoner? one doesn't see that too often in motogp these
>> days, someone tossing it in warmup so bad they can not race...
>
>http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/154487/1/grid_strategy_blamed_for_stone
>r_warm-up_lap_disaster.html
One of the commentators was saying that some teams were using double
insulation on the tyres on the grid. Tyre warmers and then a blanket
over that due to the relatively cold wind blowing around. I guess Ducati
didn't do that. Then there's Stoner's habit of falling right to the back
during the warm up lap, then gassing it round the circuit to arrive last
on the grid with the warmest tyres. Followed by Ducati's fuel strategy
that leans off the engine on the warm up lap. Looks like it all caught
him out as he gave it a big handful, with a snappy engine, on colder
tyres than expected.
He...@famkoplien.de
> On 8 Nov, 13:14, He...@FamKoplien.de wrote:
>
> > He will never become a champ.
>
> He's already been the Champ, so that's that theory out the window.
>
> Cheers,
>
Winning one time a champion chip does not necessarily mean you are a
champ. In my eyes it was more like day tripper, as Roberts jr. was. There
was another guy spectating at valencia, who also won just one champion
chip, but who is a champ, because he showed over years the willingness to
race and win. I think Stoner still have some potential, but will be eaten
up by rising stars like Spies next season. If you take a look in one or
two decades in a sports alumni, you will see Stoner finished fourth in
MotoGP 2009 and you will wonder how he ever made it to win a champion
chip in 2007.
And anyway, SPOILER or not, when do you think a message is not a spoiler?
Is one race-weekend enough, will say three weeks??? How much time must go
down the drain?
Mike P
> Andrew wrote:
>
>> How about not posting SPOILERS!!!
>
> In case you don't know what Andrew means, it's for people who will watch
> a delayed TV broadcast of the race not to know anything about it
I don't mean to sound rude, but why come to a Motorcycle racing usenet
newsgroup just after a race has finished ? I sometimes watch the races
recorded too. There's no way I'd look on here if I was worried about
finding out the result, just like I'd not go to MCN or Autosport..
Mike P
Andrew
All you have to do is post "Spoiler" in the subject line, with a short
description like "Valencia Spoiler."
Then we have the ability to go to the group and read what we want
without learning more than we want to.
Ed Light
> And anyway, SPOILER or not, when do you think a message is not a spoiler?
> Is one race-weekend enough, will say three weeks??? How much time must go
> down the drain?
Instead of "Stoner threw it away," you title it "Big Development for
Stoner at Valencia [Spoiler Warning]".
Ed Light
That's a good point. Maybe we can coddle the guys who do ;-). Actually,
it may be that they are carrying on other threads that demand daily
attention.
Switters
> hatdey didnt win the Championship, Rossi/Yamaha lost it, hayden should
> do the man thing and HAND IT BACK!
Hayden won it fair and square. Yeah Rossi/Yamaha had problems, but it
came down to the wire in Valencia and Rossi threw it away, Hayden kept his
cool and took the crown. Fair play to him.
> AND FUCK KNOWS WHY THE HELL DUCATI HAVE EMPLOYED THIS NO HOPE
> RIDER.....AGAIN IN 2010? WTF?
Personally I'm glad that Ducati have retained Hayden, and if it winds you
up in the process, that's a fucking bonus in my book. HAHAHAHA
He...@famkoplien.de
PaulpULVITZKA wrote:
>
> NO!
>
> You must be fucking JOKING
>
> Stoner has won 20 races, unlike a certain "world champion" [sic] he
> has only "won" 3 races.
>
>
Well to possibly spoil somehow again, but Kevin Schwantz was spectating
at Valencia and was ment with a champ. He has won a couple more than
three races... (and had only one Champion Chip in GP500 /1993)
Henry.