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Will Moto2 save MotoGP?

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Champ

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Nov 7, 2009, 7:47:14 AM11/7/09
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I;m quite interested in the developments and announcements that are
appearing for Moto2 at the moment. It looks like there'll be a decent
number of teams out there come next spring.

I suddenly thought about what this will mean. After a season or two,
there will be a number of small teams all with experience of building
a racing chassis to take someone else's motor. It would seem to me to
be a feasible step to take that experience and go and build a MotoGP
bike, using an engine from one of the factories.

Of course, this is the model used in F1 car racing, which I wouldn't
necessarily hold up as a great path to follow, but maybe it's one way
of getting more bikes on the grid.
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Andrew

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Nov 7, 2009, 3:23:27 PM11/7/09
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Didn't we have that with Proton and KTM?
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Chris Paine

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Nov 8, 2009, 4:39:32 PM11/8/09
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On 7 Nov, 12:47, Champ <n...@champ.org.uk> wrote:

> I;m quite interested in the developments and announcements that are
> appearing for Moto2 at the moment.  It looks like there'll be a decent
> number of teams out there come next spring.

It does look as though there will be a decent number of bikes on the
grid for Moto2 next season, which is a good start. What I'm not sure
about is where the money is going to come from to finance these teams.
I know Aprilia are building a chassis, but I can't see it being that
attractive as a promotional tool for the bike manufacturers. The large
number of teams signed up might be because they all see a chance to
start off from a level playing field. But inevitably it will come to
be dominated by a few teams, and the uncompetitive teams will struggle
to gain sponsorship, and we could see dwindling grids. Already
according to the Eurosport commentators Team KR have pulled out,
probably because of lack of money. On the other hand, I could be
totally wrong (I usually am), and the class could go from strength to
strength.

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Champ

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Nov 9, 2009, 8:15:11 AM11/9/09
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We did.

I guessing I'm hoping that the Moto2 teams will develop a proven
capability to build and race a chassis first, before moving to MotoGP.
Of course, Team Roberts demonstrated they could build a fast bike at
the end of the 2 stroke days, but never got their with four strokes.

One could argue that an engine's power and packaging characteristics
are so significant that it's impossible to build a working chassis
without an in depth understanding of the engine.

Ed Light

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Nov 9, 2009, 8:05:40 PM11/9/09
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I think moto2 will help keep people from staying away from motogp by
providing a better spectacle, of wailing 4-strokers much like people are
riding on the street, a full field, and close racing.
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Champ

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Nov 10, 2009, 4:00:21 AM11/10/09
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On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:05:40 -0800, Ed Light <nob...@nobody.there>
wrote:

>I think moto2 will help keep people from staying away from motogp by
>providing a better spectacle, of wailing 4-strokers much like people are
>riding on the street, a full field, and close racing.

Sure, like the same way that people prefer World Supersport 600s over
MotoGP. Not.

Dr Ivan D. Reid

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Nov 10, 2009, 7:21:08 PM11/10/09
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On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:15:11 +0000, Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk>
wrote in <2a5gf55ht0o242vlg...@4ax.com>:

> Of course, Team Roberts demonstrated they could build a fast bike at
> the end of the 2 stroke days, but never got their with four strokes.

^^^^^
fewer!

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Champ

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Nov 11, 2009, 11:56:27 AM11/11/09
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:21:08 +0000 (UTC), "Dr Ivan D. Reid"
<Ivan...@brunel.ac.uk> wrote:

>On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:15:11 +0000, Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk>
> wrote in <2a5gf55ht0o242vlg...@4ax.com>:
>
>> Of course, Team Roberts demonstrated they could build a fast bike at
>> the end of the 2 stroke days, but never got their with four strokes.
> ^^^^^
> fewer!

heh

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