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wallster

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Jul 3, 2004, 10:15:21 AM7/3/04
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them church bells annoy me... why do they need bells anyway???
http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20040703/4052313.asp

walt
'91 fxr (2" drag pipes... bite me ya old bag!)

Curly Larry and

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Jul 3, 2004, 12:29:30 PM7/3/04
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On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 10:15:21 -0400, "wallster" <wall...@wallster.net>
wrote:

Hmm.... funny, I thought she was entitled to her opinion. Guess not.
--
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93 FLHS Bark-O-Glide
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wallster

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Jul 3, 2004, 1:35:50 PM7/3/04
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<Curly Larry and M...@aracnet.com (Curly LaJolla)> wrote in message
news:40e6deb7....@news.aracnet.com...

she definiatly is entitled to her opinion. i was simply throwing the article
out here to hear others opinions as well. my opinion is that i like the
sound of loud pipes on bikes. the "bite me ya old bag" was mere levity...
she could be 18 years old for all i know.
thanks for your opinion.

walt
'91 fxr
"opinions are like assholes... evryone's got 'em and they all stink"


Tim Morrow

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Jul 3, 2004, 2:48:28 PM7/3/04
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wallster wrote:

> <Curly Larry and M...@aracnet.com (Curly LaJolla)> wrote...

> > "wallster" <wall...@wallster.net> wrote:

> > > them church bells annoy me... why do they need bells anyway???
> > > http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20040703/4052313.asp

> > Hmm.... funny, I thought she was entitled to her opinion. Guess not.

> she definiatly is entitled to her opinion. i was simply throwing the article


> out here to hear others opinions as well. my opinion is that i like the
> sound of loud pipes on bikes. the "bite me ya old bag" was mere levity...
> she could be 18 years old for all i know.
> thanks for your opinion.

Well, if you're looking for other opinions, mine is that I agree with her. I
don't like loud pipes on motorcycles, cars that are rolling boomboxes, or people
mowing their lawn at 6am next door on a Saturday morning. Just my opinion.

As far as law enforcement is concerned, she raises an interesting point. In my
county in Virginia, cars that are not properly muffled are pulled over and
ticketed. Bikes (v-twins or sportbikes) that are obviously in violation of the
county noise limits are not. There's definitely a double standard at work
here. It may have something to do with county motor police riding bikes that
have been modified to make much more exhaust noise than stock. At any rate, a
number of my motorhead coworkers who are into hotrod cars are amazed at how
quiet my Road Glide is with stock pipes; even going so far as to say they've
*never* heard a motorcycle that quiet; they thought the louder pipes on other
bikes were stock, and wondered how the manufacturer got away with such loud
pipes!

Otoh, my best riding friend just replaced the stock pipes on his Ultra with SE
fishtails, and they sound GREAT to me.... definitely lower pitched and
throatier, without being excessively loud. (At least to me.)

Tim
===
'04 Road Glide

Billy Boy Blue

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Jul 3, 2004, 4:13:49 PM7/3/04
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"wallster" <wall...@wallster.net> wrote in message
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Its a safety thing, since bikes are often not seen do to people not looking,
its much safer to be loud and heard.

>
>


Tim Morrow

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Jul 3, 2004, 5:22:40 PM7/3/04
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I agree with that, too. That's why any time I think I might not be seen, I push
that button on the left handlebar control group marked "horn"!

Tim (d&r)
--
'04 Road Glide

hawgeye

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Jul 3, 2004, 7:10:30 PM7/3/04
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"Billy Boy Blue" wrote...
>
> "wallster" wrote...

> > them church bells annoy me... why do they need bells anyway???
> > http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20040703/4052313.asp
> >
> > walt
> > '91 fxr (2" drag pipes... bite me ya old bag!)
> >
> Its a safety thing, since bikes are often not seen do to people not
looking,
> its much safer to be loud and heard.

While there may be some truth to that, that reason is too often over-abused.
I'm all for being safe and whatever it takes to be seen and avoid being a
statistic but sometimes the loudest pipes in the world won't help ya when
people just aren't paying attention.
When you ride you should know that you are taking a risk of being hit by
some soccer-mom yapping on a cellphone or some punk playing with the
controls of his mobil boombox or even wildlife. If you're not aware of the
risk, you got no bidness on the street.
Back to the pipes, sooner or later the EPA or some other Government body is
going to crack down on loud pipes. It's inevitable.
I also hate the sound of stock pipes on a Harley but sometimes some people
just go a little too far.

<off soapbox>

--
hawgeye
AHXCVI BSXCVIII SenS CtNs
www.hawgeye.com
www.stealer-dealer.com


Dr. Quin

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Jul 3, 2004, 7:44:57 PM7/3/04
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On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 17:22:40 -0400, Tim Morrow <tomo...@Erols.com>
babbled:

=>Billy Boy Blue wrote:
=>>
=>> "wallster" <wall...@wallster.net> wrote in message
=>> news:tIydnUHq-oh...@adelphia.com...
=>> > them church bells annoy me... why do they need bells anyway???
=>> > http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20040703/4052313.asp
=>> >
=>> > walt
=>> > '91 fxr (2" drag pipes... bite me ya old bag!)
=>> >
=>> Its a safety thing, since bikes are often not seen do to people not
looking,
=>> its much safer to be loud and heard.
=>
=>I agree with that, too. That's why any time I think I might not be
seen, I push
=>that button on the left handlebar control group marked "horn"!
=>
=>Tim (d&r)

oh yeah... until my next to useless stock horn is replace with a fuckin
diesel train whistle I'm running my 2"x34" LAF pipes so I can be heard
over the cell phones and stereos.
Dr. Quin

'74 Whizbang (gone, but not forgotten)
multitude of trashed jap bikes and one '66 beezer
Lowriders:
'81 (sold to a bud @ 88k), '82 (sold to Dunedin stealer @155k), '85 (still going strong @145k)
*Remove yourclothes to email me*

Tim Morrow

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Jul 3, 2004, 8:40:42 PM7/3/04
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hawgeye wrote:
>
> "Billy Boy Blue" wrote...
> >
> > "wallster" wrote...
> > > them church bells annoy me... why do they need bells anyway???
> > > http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20040703/4052313.asp
> > >
> > > walt
> > > '91 fxr (2" drag pipes... bite me ya old bag!)
> > >
> > Its a safety thing, since bikes are often not seen do to people not
> looking,
> > its much safer to be loud and heard.
>
> While there may be some truth to that, that reason is too often over-abused.
> I'm all for being safe and whatever it takes to be seen and avoid being a
> statistic but sometimes the loudest pipes in the world won't help ya when
> people just aren't paying attention.

Or, even when people ARE paying attention. As a rider, I'm constantly on the
lookout for other riders, even when driving my truck. The other day I was on an
interstate highway, traveling in the right lane at 60mph (my 454SS gets *really*
lousy mileage) and was watching a rider work his way up through heavy traffic
behind me. He was easily visible on an Electra Glide with those three big
lights burning. I had my windows rolled up, but the stereo wasn't even
playing. When he passed me, I was quite startled by how loud his pipes were,
given that I had been keeping an eye on him. I could *NOT* hear his pipes when
he was behind me in my blind spot, so had I *not* been watching him, his pipes
wouldn't have helped him if I had stupidly decided to change lanes without
checking over my shoulder first.

Otoh, I could hear his pipes for a LONG time after he passed me!

Tim
--
'04 FLTRI (going back to the garage now to complete the installation of floating
brake rotors and ss brake lines and new brake pads... amazing how little
friction material was left on the original pads at 9,500 miles...)

Philip Nasadowski

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Jul 3, 2004, 9:52:33 PM7/3/04
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In article <tIydnUHq-oh...@adelphia.com>,
"wallster" <wall...@wallster.net> wrote:

> them church bells annoy me... why do they need bells anyway???

Beats me. BTW, it's a known fact that churches depress property values.
Nobody wants to listen to balls all saturday, along with the hordes of
'nice' churchgoers looking anywhere and everywhere for a parking spot....

Arie Bresser

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Jul 3, 2004, 10:17:56 PM7/3/04
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"Philip Nasadowski" wrote...

>
> Beats me. BTW, it's a known fact that churches depress property values.
> Nobody wants to listen to balls all saturday

Would that be a Catholic Church?


Tim Morrow

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Jul 3, 2004, 10:35:20 PM7/3/04
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Philip Nasadowski wrote:

> Nobody wants to listen to balls all saturday

Now *that's* an understatement....

Shodjen

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Jul 4, 2004, 12:57:48 AM7/4/04
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"hawgeye" <hawg...@spamcast.net> wrote in message
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Not that my opinion will matter but, I bought my '70 XLH 900 with drag
pipes. After the first winter of tuning in the den, I bought baffles and
hammered 'em in. Now its quiet enough to tune in the house and still loud
enough to be heard (when I want it to be).

Just another newbie.
1970 XLH 900 (modified)((still kickin))
1975 XLH 1000 (Bone-stock)
Thanks for listening


Tony D.

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Jul 4, 2004, 6:41:01 AM7/4/04
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"Billy Boy Blue" <B...@msn.com> wrote in message news:<10ee4o9...@corp.supernews.com>...

>> Its a safety thing, since bikes are often not seen do to people not looking,
> its much safer to be loud and heard.


I agree!! "Loud pipes save lives"

Got the 02 sportster after all :>), (lov'en every minuet)

Mrbreeze

big stinkie

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Jul 4, 2004, 8:04:19 AM7/4/04
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Tim Morrow <tomo...@Erols.com> wrote in message news:<40E7520A...@Erols.com>...

> hawgeye wrote:
> >
> > "Billy Boy Blue" wrote...
> > >
> > > "wallster" wrote...
> > > > them church bells annoy me... why do they need bells anyway???
> > > > http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20040703/4052313.asp
> > > >
> > > > walt
> > > > '91 fxr (2" drag pipes... bite me ya old bag!)
> > > >
> > > Its a safety thing, since bikes are often not seen do to people not
> looking,
> > > its much safer to be loud and heard.
> >
> > While there may be some truth to that, that reason is too often over-abused.
> > I'm all for being safe and whatever it takes to be seen and avoid being a
> > statistic but sometimes the loudest pipes in the world won't help ya when
> > people just aren't paying attention.
>
(snip some)

I work for a police department (civilian position - not a cop.) It is
well known industry wide that people can't hear sirens approaching
from behind at highway speeds. It's not that they aren't
listening...it has to do with speed, wind, doppler effect, yadda
yadda. The sound simply doesn't reach their ears until the po-leece
car is right on 'em. When they finally hear it, it's so loud and
sudden that they are often startled. Startled drivers can do
unexpected things, like stop or swerve. We've had it happen here.
Studies show that the safest way to alert highway drivers of an
approaching police car is the wig-wag headlights _without_ a siren,
day or night. (We're talking interstate type traffic, not city
streets.) They will usually see the lights, and those that don't are
not surprised by the sudden noise of the siren.

The same phenomenon occurs with loud pipes. With the aforementioned
fact in mind, I've watched drivers as I approach from behind on the
interstate (I have straight pipes, BTW.) They often appear to not know
I'm there until I'm next to them. My loud pipes wouldn't have offered
me any safety by alerting the drivers of my presence until it was too
late.

Now, figure that police sirens are directed to the front of the
vehicle, and pipes are situated to divert the sound to the rear, I
doubt that loud pipes are of much benefit on highways unless you want
the guy behind you to know you're there...but that's what tail lights
are for.

OTOH, sirens or loud pipes CAN be heard easily in a stopped or slow
moving vehicle, _but_ according to more studies, it is very
difficult/impossible to determine from which direction the sound is
coming. When cages get confused they do unexpected things, like turn
or stop or start when they shouldn't, and then they run over a
motorcyclist or hit a cop car. We've had it happen here.

So, I don't think loud pipes save lives. I think loud pipes sound
good. That's why I have them. Personal preference, I guess. And think
of some big ol' chopper with an S&S 113 CI stroker cruising down the
road, but with real quiet exhaust and sounds like a Gold Wing. Im
sorry, but that just wouldn't be right.

JMHO, YMMV,

Andy aka Big Stinkie
SENS MAMBM
02 Custom w/Sporty 1200 and loud pipes

Nancy

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Jul 4, 2004, 8:59:25 AM7/4/04
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Jeez, Tim, I can easily yell louder than my horn, which is what I usually do.

"YAAAAH!" seems to be more effective than "eeep?"

Yeah, I'm going to get one of those Howard's Horns or whatever, as soon
as I get around to it. I wanna literally scare the shit out of people.
Most of them deserve it. I mean, most of the ones I'd use it against.
--
Nancy
Bitch 27
'97 xl1200c
slap my face to get my attention
"Governor Bush and I are absolutely determined that we will restore a
sense of civility and decency to the debate in Washington." -- Vice
presidential candidate Dick Cheney, during the 2000 campaign
"Go fuck yourself!" --Vice President Dick Cheney on the Senate floor,
June 2004


jjs

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Jul 4, 2004, 9:01:15 AM7/4/04
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"Billy Boy Blue" <B...@msn.com> wrote in message
news:10ee4o9...@corp.supernews.com...
>
> Its a safety thing, since bikes are often not seen do to people not
looking,
> its much safer to be loud and heard.

Ride in my neighborhood with straight pipes and you might get hurt. We got
some cranky Olde Phartes who aren't deaf yet.


Be...@anywhere.invalid

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Jul 4, 2004, 10:06:52 AM7/4/04
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Shodjen wrote:
>
===================== snippage happens =====================

>
> Not that my opinion will matter but, I bought my '70 XLH 900 with drag
> pipes. After the first winter of tuning in the den, I bought baffles and
> hammered 'em in. Now its quiet enough to tune in the house and still loud
> enough to be heard (when I want it to be).

Now wait a fucking minute!

You actually tuned your engine in the den... in your house?

Didn't anybody ever tell you NOT to do that?

Jeez Louise! I hope you have a CO alarm in the den.

That shit is cumulative and dangerous to your health.

<shaking head, unbelievably>

< Thinking, Darwin Awards Candidate!>

<no sfsf>
--
(^::^) SENS NEWT#11 BS#188 MISFIT DOF#YES
(_o_) 99 FLHR "GRZLY" 80 XLH (soon to be reborn)
BEAR RMH FAQs - http://rmhfaq.com
Reply-To: gtodd at eye_ex dot netcom dot com

Dr. Quin

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Jul 4, 2004, 10:37:16 AM7/4/04
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On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 14:06:52 GMT, Be...@anywhere.invalid babbled:

=>Shodjen wrote:
=>>
=>===================== snippage happens =====================
=>>
=>> Not that my opinion will matter but, I bought my '70 XLH 900 with
drag
=>> pipes. After the first winter of tuning in the den, I bought baffles
and
=>> hammered 'em in. Now its quiet enough to tune in the house and still
loud
=>> enough to be heard (when I want it to be).
=>
=>Now wait a fucking minute!
=>
=>You actually tuned your engine in the den... in your house?
=>
=>Didn't anybody ever tell you NOT to do that?
=>
=>Jeez Louise! I hope you have a CO alarm in the den.
=>
=>That shit is cumulative and dangerous to your health.
=>
=><shaking head, unbelievably>
=>
=>< Thinking, Darwin Awards Candidate!>
=>
=><no sfsf>

glad somebody mentioned CO... that shit sneaks up on ya and kills ya
dead before you even realize yur dead!

One minute yur fine, next thing ya know ya wake up and say "WTF! I'm
dead!"

Redbeard Emeritus

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Jul 4, 2004, 10:50:12 AM7/4/04
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On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 12:59:25 GMT, Nancy
<mcnameen...@hawaii.rr.com> writ:

>On 2004-07-03 11:22:40 -1000, Tim Morrow <tomo...@Erols.com> said:
>
>> Billy Boy Blue wrote:
>>>
>>> "wallster" <wall...@wallster.net> wrote in message
>>> news:tIydnUHq-oh...@adelphia.com...
>>>> them church bells annoy me... why do they need bells anyway???
>>>> http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20040703/4052313.asp
>>>>
>>>> walt
>>>> '91 fxr (2" drag pipes... bite me ya old bag!)
>>>>
>>> Its a safety thing, since bikes are often not seen do to people not looking,
>>> its much safer to be loud and heard.
>>
>> I agree with that, too. That's why any time I think I might not be
>> seen, I push
>> that button on the left handlebar control group marked "horn"!

>Jeez, Tim, I can easily yell louder than my horn, which is what I usually do.

I do that, but I *sometimes* do th' horn thingie, too. Butt
generally, it's too late, the incident is over, and I got my highs on
and my left signal blinking.

--
Redbeard Emeritus "The Dirt Devil, with a built-in Crevice Tool" (c)
Do you polka?

Redbeard Emeritus

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Jul 4, 2004, 10:57:44 AM7/4/04
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On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 14:06:52 GMT, Be...@anywhere.invalid writ:

>Shodjen wrote:

>> Not that my opinion will matter but, I bought my '70 XLH 900 with drag
>> pipes. After the first winter of tuning in the den, I bought baffles and
>> hammered 'em in. Now its quiet enough to tune in the house and still loud
>> enough to be heard (when I want it to be).

>Now wait a fucking minute!
>
>You actually tuned your engine in the den... in your house?
>
>Didn't anybody ever tell you NOT to do that?

Good point, but gives me an opportunity to remember an oldie but a
goodie. Karen Wells doesn't hang here much if at all anymore, but I
remember visiting her in Kokamo, IN. During the harsh winter, she'd
store her bike in the kitchen. And on xmas and newyears, she'd fire
th' fucker up. Not for long, but enuf to enjoy th' roar. I'm sure
the other folks in the townhouses around her enjoyed it, too.

I did think the exhaust splatter on the wall was an especially nice
touch.

Dirty Harry

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Jul 4, 2004, 12:11:46 PM7/4/04
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Nancy sed:

> Yeah, I'm going to get one of those Howard's Horns or whatever, as
> soon
> as I get around to it. I wanna literally scare the shit out of people.
> Most of them deserve it. I mean, most of the ones I'd use it against.

I've got one on the bagger, and have discovered that it is very effective
at scaring deer back into the woods as well. On the trip to New Mexico
this year, I was cussed out by some tourists for ruining their "photo op"
with Bambi at the side of the road. HeHeHe.

--
Dirty Harry, BS#59, DOF#4, FFDI
"Expecting the world to treat you fairly because you are
good is like expecting the bull not to charge because you
are a vegetarian." -- Dennis Wholey


AH#104

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Jul 4, 2004, 12:35:15 PM7/4/04
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>>>> its much safer to be loud and heard.

>>>I push that button on the left handlebar


>>>control group marked "horn"!

R.E. sed:


> I do that, but I *sometimes* do th' horn thingie, too.
>Butt generally, it's too late, the incident is over, and
>I got my highs on and my left signal blinking.

LOL, been there done that... The good thing about that; it acts as the
pressure relief and you're too busy laughin' at yer own sto0pidity rather
than doing something even more stupid that might getcha killed.

And I usually say something to myself like... "And if you do it again,
you'll get some of THIS"... and I hit my right blinker...

--
ASSHOLE #104 Len


Tud

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Jul 4, 2004, 12:55:48 PM7/4/04
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Billy Boy Blue wrote...

I'd buy this argument, or at least a person's belief in it, if their bike
was decked out like Paulie, but I suspect that a lot of people that use this
excuse are running with some combination of marker lights for turn signals,
sparto tail lights, shorts, sandals, no helmets, beanie helmets, no safety
training, etc, etc.

--
Tud
AH#115 SENS BS#111 LFS#32 FLF MISFIT
'70 Triumph T120R Chopper "The Death Trap"
'72 Triumph T100R Project
'74 Honda CB550Four "The Reliable One"
http://ah115.com

Tony D

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"Tony D." <ant3...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4108ce99.04070...@posting.google.com...

> "Billy Boy Blue" <B...@msn.com> wrote in message
news:<10ee4o9...@corp.supernews.com>...
> >> Its a safety thing, since bikes are often not seen do to people not
looking,
> > its much safer to be loud and heard.
>
>
> I agree!! "Loud pipes save lives"
>

I'm Tony D!

--
Tony D
1971 R75/5 boxer
1991 1200 Sporty
2004 R1150 Rockster
SENS (less) LFS#38 PHS
BS#149 FYYFMFFY


Rob Duncan

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Jul 4, 2004, 2:19:31 PM7/4/04
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<Be...@anywhere.invalid> wrote in message
news:40E80EFF...@ix.netcom.com...

> Shodjen wrote:
> >
> ===================== snippage happens =====================
> >
> > Not that my opinion will matter but, I bought my '70 XLH 900 with drag
> > pipes. After the first winter of tuning in the den, I bought baffles and
> > hammered 'em in. Now its quiet enough to tune in the house and still
loud
> > enough to be heard (when I want it to be).
>
> Now wait a fucking minute!
>
> You actually tuned your engine in the den... in your house?
>
> Didn't anybody ever tell you NOT to do that?
>
> Jeez Louise! I hope you have a CO alarm in the den.
>
> That shit is cumulative and dangerous to your health.
>
> <shaking head, unbelievably>
>
> < Thinking, Darwin Awards Candidate!>

Im thinking windows. Several. Hopefully.


Rob

Rob Duncan

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Jul 4, 2004, 2:23:02 PM7/4/04
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"Dr. Quin" <pi...@ieee.orgyourclothes> wrote

> One minute yur fine, next thing ya know ya wake up and say "WTF! I'm
> dead!"
>
> Dr. Quin

Mrs Summerall, my 8th grade drama teacher, lost her daughter to CO. She and
her boyfriend were parked in the snow cuddling and died due to it. Two
lovers found dead in each others arms. It was very tragic for such a small
town. 4000.


Rob


Chilly Willy

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Jul 4, 2004, 2:32:35 PM7/4/04
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Nancy sed:

|| On 2004-07-03 11:22:40 -1000, Tim Morrow <tomo...@Erols.com> said:
||| Billy Boy Blue wrote:
|||| "wallster" wrote ...

||||| them church bells annoy me... why do they need bells anyway???
||||| http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20040703/4052313.asp
|||||
|||| Its a safety thing, since bikes are often not seen do to people
|||| not looking, its much safer to be loud and heard.
|||
||| I agree with that, too. That's why any time I think I might not be
||| seen, I push that button on the left handlebar control
||| group marked "horn"!
|||
|| Jeez, Tim, I can easily yell louder than my horn, which is what I
|| usually do.
||
|| "YAAAAH!" seems to be more effective than "eeep?"
||
|| Yeah, I'm going to get one of those Howard's Horns or whatever, as
|| soon as I get around to it. I wanna literally scare the shit out of
|| people. Most of them deserve it. I mean, most of the ones I'd use it
|| against.

Those look pretty cool too. I'd like to have one on each side tho. You
know, to make sure folks on my right get as good a dose as those on my
left.

--
Chilly Willy
NoVA BS#226 DOF#55 MANS
'04 FLHTCi - Night
www.chilly-willy.net

Rob Duncan

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Jul 4, 2004, 2:35:13 PM7/4/04
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"big stinkie" <and...@earthlink.net> wrote

> So, I don't think loud pipes save lives. I think loud pipes sound
> good. That's why I have them. Personal preference, I guess. And think
> of some big ol' chopper with an S&S 113 CI stroker cruising down the
> road, but with real quiet exhaust and sounds like a Gold Wing. Im
> sorry, but that just wouldn't be right.
>
> JMHO, YMMV,


Im sure theyve saved more than a few lives. Horns have saved even more.


Rob


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Rob Duncan

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Jul 4, 2004, 3:53:53 PM7/4/04
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"StephG" <dontspamFra...@hotmail.com> wrote

> The fact is that you don't know if loud pipes "have
> offered [you] any safety by alerting the drivers of [your]
> presence".
>
> --
> StephG

Of course you do. I do. And Ill bet Im not the only one.


Rob
(not seeing you is the drivers fault, not being heard is the riders.)


Nancy

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Jul 4, 2004, 7:19:01 PM7/4/04
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Sometimes I try to hit the left turn signal but I hit the horn button
instead. Then I have to pretend I'm waving at someone.

Nancy

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Jul 4, 2004, 7:21:12 PM7/4/04
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On 2004-07-04 04:50:12 -1000, Redbeard Emeritus <redb...@volcano.net> said:

> I do that, but I *sometimes* do th' horn thingie, too. Butt
> generally, it's too late, the incident is over, and I got my highs on
> and my left signal blinking.

Oops, now I get it. :-)

(what a maroon I am!)

Nancy

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Jul 4, 2004, 7:36:32 PM7/4/04
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On 2004-07-03 15:52:33 -1000, Philip Nasadowski
<nasa...@nospam.usermail.com> said:

> In article <tIydnUHq-oh...@adelphia.com>,
> "wallster" <wall...@wallster.net> wrote:
>
>> them church bells annoy me... why do they need bells anyway???
>
> Beats me. BTW, it's a known fact that churches depress property
> values. Nobody wants to listen to balls all saturday

Well, no, I don't wanna *listen* to 'em ... What is the sound of one
ball clapping, anyway?

Maybe "clap" isn't the right word.

Never mind.

Irv

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Jul 4, 2004, 7:47:03 PM7/4/04
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"Nancy" <mcnameen...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:200407041322281575%

> >
> >> Jeez, Tim, I can easily yell louder than my horn, which is what I
usually do.
> >
> > I do that, but I *sometimes* do th' horn thingie, too. Butt
> > generally, it's too late, the incident is over, and I got my highs on
> > and my left signal blinking.
>
> Sometimes I try to hit the left turn signal but I hit the horn button
> instead. Then I have to pretend I'm waving at someone.

I do all of that at times......AND hit the horn button several times before
I realize it's not honking........done that since the bike was new. Like it
doesn't have a good connection or something, I'll wiggle the wiring to it
when I get home and it's fine.....but hit the button when I need
it.........nada.

Sometimes everything we've been talking about is also accompanied by an
outstreched arm, a closed fist, with a middle finger pointed
upwards......and I always call them by name (Dumbass) whether they can hear
me or not.

--
Steve Irving (Irv) - BS#237 DCI#1
2002 FXSTDI (Moby)
http://www.nite.com/bike.html
"Be the rain, be the rain"


Irv

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Jul 4, 2004, 7:48:50 PM7/4/04
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"Nancy" <mcnameen...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:2004070413243824084%mcnameen001myface@hawaiirrcom...

> On 2004-07-04 04:50:12 -1000, Redbeard Emeritus <redb...@volcano.net>
said:
>
> > I do that, but I *sometimes* do th' horn thingie, too. Butt
> > generally, it's too late, the incident is over, and I got my highs on
> > and my left signal blinking.
>
> Oops, now I get it. :-)
>
> (what a maroon I am!)

You too?? I didn't get it till I was posting the message about the middle
finger. Damn........and I tend to disagree when the wife says I'm
slow.......maybe, just maybe, she's right after all.

Tim Morrow

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Jul 4, 2004, 8:14:26 PM7/4/04
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Nancy wrote:
>
> On 2004-07-03 11:22:40 -1000, Tim Morrow <tomo...@Erols.com> said:
>
> > Billy Boy Blue wrote:
> >>
> >> "wallster" <wall...@wallster.net> wrote in message
> >> news:tIydnUHq-oh...@adelphia.com...
> >>> them church bells annoy me... why do they need bells anyway???
> >>> http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20040703/4052313.asp
> >>>
> >>> walt
> >>> '91 fxr (2" drag pipes... bite me ya old bag!)
> >>>
> >> Its a safety thing, since bikes are often not seen do to people not looking,
> >> its much safer to be loud and heard.
> >
> > I agree with that, too. That's why any time I think I might not be
> > seen, I push
> > that button on the left handlebar control group marked "horn"!
> >
> > Tim (d&r)
>
> Jeez, Tim, I can easily yell louder than my horn, which is what I usually do.
>
> "YAAAAH!" seems to be more effective than "eeep?"
>
> Yeah, I'm going to get one of those Howard's Horns or whatever, as soon
> as I get around to it. I wanna literally scare the shit out of people.
> Most of them deserve it. I mean, most of the ones I'd use it against.

Yeah, I had air horns on one of my bikes once, and they sounded like a big
truck, and people reacted VISCERALLY to those bad boys. Do ya think that was
anythign like having you yell at 'em? ;-)

Tim

Tim Morrow

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Jul 4, 2004, 8:16:24 PM7/4/04
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I will say that learning exactly *where* the horn button is on my RG has been
the single biggest adjustment I've had to make in riding it. And yeah, I've
missed it completely a number of times. Luckily, I don't rely on it to actually
*motivate* the cager I'm trying to honk at!


Tim

Dave Schultheis

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Jul 5, 2004, 12:39:16 AM7/5/04
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Redbeard Emeritus wrote:

> Good point, but gives me an opportunity to remember an oldie but a
> goodie. Karen Wells doesn't hang here much if at all anymore, but I
> remember visiting her in Kokamo, IN. During the harsh winter, she'd
> store her bike in the kitchen. And on xmas and newyears, she'd fire
> th' fucker up. Not for long, but enuf to enjoy th' roar. I'm sure
> the other folks in the townhouses around her enjoyed it, too.
>
> I did think the exhaust splatter on the wall was an especially nice
> touch.

"And," dare I say, "better than than garage dust!"


Dave S.

1996 FLHR-I Road King

BS#146, DOF#181, NEWT#4, KOTOR#1, SENS, CVNS G&W, DOF # 6021, ARSE

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Redbeard Emeritus

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Jul 5, 2004, 1:23:06 AM7/5/04
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On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 20:14:26 -0400, Tim Morrow <tomo...@Erols.com>
writ:

>Nancy wrote:

>> I can easily yell louder than my horn, which is what I usually do.
>>
>> "YAAAAH!" seems to be more effective than "eeep?"
>>
>> Yeah, I'm going to get one of those Howard's Horns or whatever, as soon
>> as I get around to it. I wanna literally scare the shit out of people.
>> Most of them deserve it. I mean, most of the ones I'd use it against.

>Yeah, I had air horns on one of my bikes once, and they sounded like a big
>truck, and people reacted VISCERALLY to those bad boys. Do ya think that was
>anythign like having you yell at 'em? ;-)

Back when I wuz a wee lad (right after the Cushman) I had a Vespa
160cc. It actually hauled ass and I covered a bunch of NorCal on
that thing when I wuz a teenybopper. Anywho, I'd cross the state on
US 50 back when it wuz a non-freeway 4-lane with rural intersections.
Made me nervous. So I bought one of them freon horns. Kinda fun (and
alot less scary) when I'd see someone on one of the sidestreets and
doubtful they saw me and I'd hit that button. And they'd be looking
around for where the semi was. Not much doubt in my mind that horn
probly saved my life more than once.

Dr. Quin

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Jul 5, 2004, 2:22:05 PM7/5/04
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On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 11:23:02 -0700, "Rob Duncan"
<robd...@gbronline.com> babbled:

=>
=>"Dr. Quin" <pi...@ieee.orgyourclothes> wrote
=>
=>> One minute yur fine, next thing ya know ya wake up and say "WTF! I'm
=>> dead!"
=>>
=>> Dr. Quin
=>
=>Mrs Summerall, my 8th grade drama teacher, lost her daughter to CO.
She and
=>her boyfriend were parked in the snow cuddling and died due to it.
Two
=>lovers found dead in each others arms. It was very tragic for such a
small
=>town. 4000.
=>
=>
=>Rob
=>

know that pain... our farmer neighors didn't wake up one morning. The
school bus driver, when the kids weren't out by the road waiting, found
everyone in bed, dead from CO. My home town...600...still warns people
about CO whenever they can.

big stinkie

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Dr. Quin <pi...@ieee.orgyourclothes> wrote in message news:<ru6je010gd553qaf7...@4ax.com>...
Had a bozo commit suicide by running the car in his garage. It worked
quite well, but unfortunately he lived in a duplex and gassed the
family next door. Killed 'em all. I've got CO detectors all over my
house. More than I need, but that shit scares me.

Andy aka Big Stinkie
SENS TOMKAT MAMBM BS#pending

Irv

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Jul 5, 2004, 8:48:03 PM7/5/04
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"big stinkie" <and...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:2e492522.04070...@posting.google.com...

> I've got CO detectors all over my
> house. More than I need, but that shit scares me.
>

Don't know of any way (besides my vehicles or the frikking Bar B Q) to get
CO into my house......since it's all electric?? How can you have CO without
combustion??


Anthony Diodati

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Jul 6, 2004, 1:33:03 AM7/6/04
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"Tony D" <hs2...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Tony D." <ant3...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:4108ce99.04070...@posting.google.com...
> > "Billy Boy Blue" <B...@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:<10ee4o9...@corp.supernews.com>...
> > >> Its a safety thing, since bikes are often not seen do to people not
> looking,
> > > its much safer to be loud and heard.
> >
> >
> > I agree!! "Loud pipes save lives"
> >
>
> I'm Tony D!
>
Yea, What ever man,
See what happened, I posted through google,instead of through outlook
express, and "Tony D" is set Up in there automaticly from a long time ago,
and there is no way (that I know of) to change it.
mrbreeze


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Arie Bresser

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Jul 5, 2004, 11:14:52 PM7/5/04
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"Anthony Diodati" wrote...
>
> "Tony D" wrote...

> > I'm Tony D!
>
> Yea, What ever man,

Wrong answer.


big stinkie

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"Irv" <st...@mypantsnite.com> wrote in message news:<1GmGc.75$CD4....@news.uswest.net>...

Funny you should mention that. We bought a small house in town as a
rental property. I fixed it up, painted, carpet, etc., then installed
smoke detectors and CO detectors. The wife was watching me put them up
when she said, "Isn't this house all electric?" I removed the CO
detectors.

We live in the boonies and have propane for heat when it gets too cold
for the heat pump to be effective. Plus we have 2 attached garages, so
the possibility of a running car exists, however unlikely it is. I've
worked in PD/FD/EMS as a dispatcher for almost a quarter of a century
now, and have noted many deaths due to that stuff. All tragic and all
preventable with detectors. My fear may be in my head, but real or
imagined - it still bothers me, so I counter it with lots of CO
detectors and getting the furnace inspected yearly. That's cheap
insurance.

Andy aka Big "Scared of CO" Stinkie
SENS TOMKAT MAMBM BS#pending

Irv

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"big stinkie" <and...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:2e492522.04070...@posting.google.com...

> the possibility of a running car exists, however unlikely it is. I've


> worked in PD/FD/EMS as a dispatcher for almost a quarter of a century
> now,

I turned 25 years on the job (nothing like working for "the City") first
week of June.........I'm over in vehicle maintenance. Started out as a
mechanic all those years ago, did a stint as a volunteer firefighter/emt (on
my off hours), then got a desk job back in '91. Since then I buy fuel,
vehicles, parts, run environmental and safety programs, etc........all the
details that make the guys in the shop think I don't do anything for a
living.

big stinkie

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Jul 7, 2004, 1:51:42 PM7/7/04
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"Irv" <st...@mypantsnite.com> wrote in message news:<hvHGc.654$NK4....@news.uswest.net>...

> "big stinkie" <and...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:2e492522.04070...@posting.google.com...
>
> > the possibility of a running car exists, however unlikely it is. I've
> > worked in PD/FD/EMS as a dispatcher for almost a quarter of a century
> > now,
>
> I turned 25 years on the job (nothing like working for "the City") first
> week of June.........I'm over in vehicle maintenance. Started out as a
> mechanic all those years ago, did a stint as a volunteer firefighter/emt (on
> my off hours), then got a desk job back in '91. Since then I buy fuel,
> vehicles, parts, run environmental and safety programs, etc........all the
> details that make the guys in the shop think I don't do anything for a
> living.

Well, that's the reputation we get when we work for the 'guvment.' <g>

Re 25 years...I'm just trying out dispatching to see if I like it. If
I do, then I might decide to make a career out of it. I'm gonna give
it another 9 years and then I'll make the decision. I'll probably just
quit working altogether then. Ahhhh. The retirement light at the end
of the tunnel!

I looked at your bike pictures on your web site. Nice looking bikes.

Andy aka Big Stinkie
SENS TOMKAT MAMBM BS#pending

Irv

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"big stinkie" <and...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> it another 9 years and then I'll make the decision. I'll probably just


> quit working altogether then. Ahhhh. The retirement light at the end
> of the tunnel!

Wellllll...............I've got 25+ years with "the City", and the State
Retirement system allowed me to purchase my military service time......so
I'm closing in on 30 years total.......figure I'll throw in the towel this
time next year. Hells bells, they're gonna give me 70% of my pay AND 1/2 my
social security as soon as I go out (great deal since I'll only be 52). At
that rate, I can't afford to work (there) anymore......<sfsf>

>
> I looked at your bike pictures on your web site. Nice looking bikes.
>

The Honda was pretty, bought it that way......the Deuce isn't as pretty
(pretty enough though)......it's for riding.

Ralph

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Jul 7, 2004, 11:26:34 PM7/7/04
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"Dirty Harry" <dirtyharryya...@invalid.gov> wrote in message
news:6%VFc.22508$P7.15191@pd7tw3no...
> I've got one on the bagger, and have discovered that it is very effective
> at scaring deer back into the woods as well. On the trip to New Mexico
> this year, I was cussed out by some tourists for ruining their "photo op"
> with Bambi at the side of the road. HeHeHe.
>
> --
> Dirty Harry, BS#59, DOF#4, FFDI

Harry, which one do you have?

Ralph BS#207


big stinkie

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"Irv" <st...@mypantsnite.com> wrote in message news:<ZF1Hc.364$lR4....@news.uswest.net>...

> "big stinkie" <and...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:2e492522.04070...@posting.google.com...
>
(Snippage occurs)

>
> > I looked at your bike pictures on your web site. Nice looking bikes.
>
> The Honda was pretty, bought it that way......the Deuce isn't as pretty
> (pretty enough though)......it's for riding.

I dunno...I kinda like the Deuce, myself. Just better lines, stance,
etc.

I painted a Shadow for a friend last year...kinda looks like the paint
job on yours. Here' a link to a picture.

http://home.earthlink.net/~andythe/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/p4270009.jpg

ZombyWoof

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Jul 8, 2004, 9:54:53 AM7/8/04
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On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 18:43:26 -0700, "Irv" <st...@mypantsnite.com> wrote
something wonderfully witty:

>
>"big stinkie" <and...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:2e492522.04070...@posting.google.com...
>
>> it another 9 years and then I'll make the decision. I'll probably just
>> quit working altogether then. Ahhhh. The retirement light at the end
>> of the tunnel!
>
>Wellllll...............I've got 25+ years with "the City", and the State
>Retirement system allowed me to purchase my military service time......so
>I'm closing in on 30 years total.......figure I'll throw in the towel this
>time next year. Hells bells, they're gonna give me 70% of my pay AND 1/2 my
>social security as soon as I go out (great deal since I'll only be 52). At
>that rate, I can't afford to work (there) anymore......<sfsf>
>

I'll be a crippled up old man before I ever retire again. I went out
of the military 10 years ago at age 39, but it's only a grand a month.
I have another 5 years in the Virginia Retirement system and need
fifteen more. Buy then I'll be 64. Maybe not dead, but the next best
thing to it.
--

You can run, but you'll only die tired.

ZombyWoof

Greasy Rider

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Jul 8, 2004, 10:32:18 AM7/8/04
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On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 09:54:53 -0400, ZombyWoof <Zomby...@Zappa.net>
proclaimed:

>I'll be a crippled up old man before I ever retire again. I went out
>of the military 10 years ago at age 39, but it's only a grand a month.
>I have another 5 years in the Virginia Retirement system and need
>fifteen more. Buy then I'll be 64. Maybe not dead, but the next best
>thing to it.

I retired at 55 and had a heart attack at 58. I'm 67 and have never
felt better in my life. There isn't anything "next best' to being
dead. <G>

Ride Safe!

Greasy Rider NAH#3 SENS
http://rmhfaq.com
[Al Sharpton has approved this message]

Redbeard Emeritus

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Jul 8, 2004, 11:48:33 AM7/8/04
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On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 14:32:18 GMT, Greasy Rider @ Invalid.com writ:

>I retired at 55 and had a heart attack at 58. I'm 67 and have never
>felt better in my life. There isn't anything "next best' to being
>dead. <G>

I raise a glass to ya, Greasy.

(Hope Len's listening, since he likes to assert that at some point
(like before now, for me) every day is the best you will *ever* feel
for the rest of your life.)

Dr. Quin

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Jul 8, 2004, 12:38:41 PM7/8/04
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On 8 Jul 2004 04:29:44 -0700, and...@earthlink.net (big stinkie)
babbled:

=>"Irv" <st...@mypantsnite.com> wrote in message
news:<ZF1Hc.364$lR4....@news.uswest.net>...
=>> "big stinkie" <and...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
=>> news:2e492522.04070...@posting.google.com...
=>>
=>(Snippage occurs)
=>>
=>> > I looked at your bike pictures on your web site. Nice looking
bikes.
=>>
=>> The Honda was pretty, bought it that way......the Deuce isn't as
pretty
=>> (pretty enough though)......it's for riding.
=>
=>I dunno...I kinda like the Deuce, myself. Just better lines, stance,
=>etc.
=>
=>I painted a Shadow for a friend last year...kinda looks like the paint
=>job on yours. Here' a link to a picture.
=>
=>http://home.earthlink.net/~andythe/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/p4270009.jpg
=>
=>Andy aka Big Stinkie
=>SENS TOMKAT MAMBM BS#pending

I'm not a flames fan, but that's a *nice* paint job!

AH#104

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Jul 8, 2004, 1:00:12 PM7/8/04
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Greasy sed:

>>I retired at 55 and had a heart attack at 58.
>>I'm 67 and have never felt better in my life.

State of mind... that could/would be true. Actual physical ability... don't
think so.

R.E. sed:


> I raise a glass to ya, Greasy.

I do too. Not trying to be contrary, or rain on anyone's parade... but,
(see below)

R.E. sed:


> (Hope Len's listening, since he likes to assert that
>at some point (like before now, for me) every day is
>the best you will *ever* feel for the rest of your life.)

The best you will *ever* feel for the rest of your life; as in physical
aches, pains, etc... I'm not trying to put a stick in the mud... I'm saying
get out, stay up late, have fun NOW... because it only gets harder
(physically) from some point in your life - to the end. For some they start
feeling the creeking of the bones at 40... others at 50, etc...

I know I can't party like I used to... ok, I can; but it hurts more the next
day. I sure as shit can't party for as long as I used to.

--
ASSHOLE #104 Len
BS#90 Wolf#21 PHゥ#3 SENS MANS
'73XLH '99FXD '02FLHRI http://AH104.com


Redbeard Emeritus

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Jul 8, 2004, 1:13:18 PM7/8/04
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On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 17:00:12 GMT, "AH#104" <ah...@yourhatatt.net>
writ:

>R.E. sed:
>> (Hope Len's listening, since he likes to assert that
>>at some point (like before now, for me) every day is
>>the best you will *ever* feel for the rest of your life.)

>I know I can't party like I used to... ok, I can; but it hurts more the next
>day.

Well, *there* y' are. And then the day after that you feel better
than you did th' day before. <g> pfffttttt

AH#104

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Jul 8, 2004, 1:16:47 PM7/8/04
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R.E. sed:

> Well, *there* y' are. And then the day after that
>you feel better than you did th' day before. <g> pfffttttt

So I need to party every other day!

There's an exception to every rule...

--
ASSHOLE #104 Len


Dirty Harry

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Jul 8, 2004, 1:18:18 PM7/8/04
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Ralph asked:
> "Dirty Harry" wrote:

>> I've got one on the bagger, and have discovered that it is very
>> effective at scaring deer back into the woods as well. On the trip
>> to New Mexico this year, I was cussed out by some tourists for
>> ruining their "photo op" with Bambi at the side of the road. HeHeHe.
>

> Harry, which one do you have?

Picked a "Little Big Horn" up of EBay cheap last winter.

--
Dirty Harry, BS#59, DOF#4, FFDI

"Moral indignation is jealousy with a halo."
- H. G. Wells (1866-1946)


Redbeard Emeritus

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Jul 8, 2004, 1:22:12 PM7/8/04
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On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 17:16:47 GMT, "AH#104" <ah...@yourhatatt.net>
writ:

>R.E. sed:
>> Well, *there* y' are. And then the day after that
>>you feel better than you did th' day before. <g> pfffttttt

>So I need to party every other day!
>
>There's an exception to every rule...

Life ain't linear. It ain't even an entirely unidirectional
progression. <seg>

D-Rog

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Jul 8, 2004, 3:41:46 PM7/8/04
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AH#104 wrote:
> The best you will *ever* feel for the rest of your life; as in
> physical aches, pains, etc... I'm not trying to put a stick in the
> mud... I'm saying get out, stay up late, have fun NOW... because it
> only gets harder (physically) from some point in your life - to the
> end. For some they start feeling the creeking of the bones at 40...
> others at 50, etc...

or at 18...
--
Later,
D-Rog
'98 FLHRCI - "Stella"
BABY POOL 2004 - http://www.d-rog.net/babypool/details.htm - Are you in??

"Whatever you are, be a good one" - Abraham Lincoln


KF/AKA AH#49

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Jul 8, 2004, 4:00:45 PM7/8/04
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D-Rog wrote:
>
> AH#104 wrote:
> > The best you will *ever* feel for the rest of your life; as in
> > physical aches, pains, etc... I'm not trying to put a stick in the
> > mud... I'm saying get out, stay up late, have fun NOW... because it
> > only gets harder (physically) from some point in your life - to the
> > end. For some they start feeling the creeking of the bones at 40...
> > others at 50, etc...
>
> or at 18...

I was 18..once.

D-Rog

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Jul 8, 2004, 4:04:46 PM7/8/04
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Coincidentally I was too! Oh the wonder and amazement!!

AH#104

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Jul 8, 2004, 4:18:45 PM7/8/04
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> > or at 18...

> I was 18..once.

I stil am...
my body tries to tell me otherwise, everyday.

Peter Pan


Sheep

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Jul 8, 2004, 4:29:43 PM7/8/04
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On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 07:50:12 -0700, Redbeard Emeritus
<redb...@volcano.net> wrote:


>>>>>
>>>> Its a safety thing, since bikes are often not seen do to people not looking,
>>>> its much safer to be loud and heard.
>>>

>>> I agree with that, too. That's why any time I think I might not be
>>> seen, I push
>>> that button on the left handlebar control group marked "horn"!
>
>>Jeez, Tim, I can easily yell louder than my horn, which is what I usually do.
>
>I do that, but I *sometimes* do th' horn thingie, too. Butt
>generally, it's too late, the incident is over, and I got my highs on
>and my left signal blinking.


I don't even know if my horn works.
--

Dave (Dukes Sheep)
'03 FLHRI NAH#2 DOF #5 SENS
"Oh bother" said Pooh, as he was connected at 14.4kps

A: Because it disturbs the logical flow of the message.
Q: Why is topposting frowned upon?

KF/AKA AH#49

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AH#104 wrote:

> I think I said:
> > I was 18..once.
>
> I stil am...
> my body tries to tell me otherwise, everyday.

Our bodies tend to fib to our minds!
Or is that the other way around? :/

While I still "'wake with wood", I get exhausted while playing
basketball with the neighbors after ten minutes in the simmering summer
heat.

My right toe and both knee's are shot to hell.

Al

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KF/AKA AH#49 wrote:

> AH#104 wrote:
>
>
>>I think I said:
>>
>>>I was 18..once.
>>
>>I stil am...
>>my body tries to tell me otherwise, everyday.
>
>
> Our bodies tend to fib to our minds!
> Or is that the other way around? :/
>
> While I still "'wake with wood",

Happens to me too around 6am. Ever' time I'm too lazy to get up and
piss at 3am...


--
BS205 DOF#FiftyTo CVNS G&W FD1
'01 FXST "Sluggo"

Kurt Ridder

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KF/AKA AH#49 wrote:

> Our bodies tend to fib to our minds!
> Or is that the other way around? :/
>
> While I still "'wake with wood", I get exhausted while playing
> basketball with the neighbors after ten minutes in the simmering summer
> heat.
>
> My right toe and both knee's are shot to hell.


"And you know
That you're over the hill
When your mind makes a promise
That your body can't fill."
Little Feat - Old Folks Boogie

Kurt Ridder


Dr. Quin

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Jul 8, 2004, 5:29:21 PM7/8/04
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On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 20:00:45 GMT, KF/AKA AH#49 <AH#4...@your.net> babbled:

=>D-Rog wrote:
=>>
=>> AH#104 wrote:
=>> > The best you will *ever* feel for the rest of your life; as in
=>> > physical aches, pains, etc... I'm not trying to put a stick in
the
=>> > mud... I'm saying get out, stay up late, have fun NOW... because
it
=>> > only gets harder (physically) from some point in your life - to
the
=>> > end. For some they start feeling the creeking of the bones at
40...
=>> > others at 50, etc...
=>>
=>> or at 18...
=>
=>I was 18..once.

not me... I skipped 18 and went directly to veteran
and it made me miss Woodstock, damn it!

KF/AKA AH#49

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Jul 8, 2004, 5:33:36 PM7/8/04
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"Dr. Quin" wrote:
>
> On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 20:00:45 GMT, KF/AKA AH#49 <AH#4...@your.net> babbled:
> =>I was 18..once.
>
> not me... I skipped 18 and went directly to veteran
> and it made me miss Woodstock, damn it!

Did you wear a frilly thang, "Miss WoodStock"?

Dr. Quin

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Jul 8, 2004, 5:38:41 PM7/8/04
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On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 21:33:36 GMT, KF/AKA AH#49 <AH#4...@your.net> babbled:

=>"Dr. Quin" wrote:
=>>
=>> On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 20:00:45 GMT, KF/AKA AH#49 <AH#4...@your.net>
babbled:
=>> =>I was 18..once.
=>>
=>> not me... I skipped 18 and went directly to veteran
=>> and it made me miss Woodstock, damn it!
=>
=>Did you wear a frilly thang, "Miss WoodStock"?

heheheheh... can't leave *any* kind of opening 'round here, can ya!

Al

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Jul 8, 2004, 5:47:34 PM7/8/04
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Dr. Quin wrote:

That's the nice thing about good frillys. Dem "openings"..

KF/AKA AH#49

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Jul 8, 2004, 5:49:26 PM7/8/04
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"Dr. Quin" wrote:
>
> On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 21:33:36 GMT, KF/AKA AH#49 <AH#4...@your.net> babbled:
>
> =>"Dr. Quin" wrote:
> =>>
> =>> On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 20:00:45 GMT, KF/AKA AH#49 <AH#4...@your.net>
> babbled:
> =>> =>I was 18..once.
> =>>
> =>> not me... I skipped 18 and went directly to veteran
> =>> and it made me miss Woodstock, damn it!
> =>
> =>Did you wear a frilly thang, "Miss WoodStock"?
>
> heheheheh... can't leave *any* kind of opening 'round here, can ya!

SNORK! :>

I had no choice.
I'm from NJ, and so very close to NYC!

Chilly Willy

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Kurt Ridder sed:

The Greasman says yer a geezer when you have grey hair, down there.

--
Chilly (not a geezer yet) Willy
NoVA BS#226 DOF#55 MANS
'04 FLHTCi - Night
www.chilly-willy.net

AH#104

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Jul 8, 2004, 6:01:27 PM7/8/04
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Chilly Willy sed:

> The Greasman says yer a geezer when you have grey hair, down there.

How far down? North Carolina,,, or do you mean *all* the way down there;
Florida?

--
ASSHOLE #104 Len


Dr. Quin

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Jul 8, 2004, 6:18:06 PM7/8/04
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On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 14:47:34 -0700, Al <BS...@thegrid.net> babbled:

=>Dr. Quin wrote:
=>

=>> On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 21:33:36 GMT, KF/AKA AH#49 <AH#4...@your.net>
babbled:
=>>

=>> =>"Dr. Quin" wrote:
=>> =>>
=>> =>> On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 20:00:45 GMT, KF/AKA AH#49 <AH#4...@your.net>

=>> babbled:
=>> =>> =>I was 18..once.


=>> =>>
=>> =>> not me... I skipped 18 and went directly to veteran

=>> =>> and it made me miss Woodstock, damn it!


=>> =>
=>> =>Did you wear a frilly thang, "Miss WoodStock"?

=>>
=>> heheheheh... can't leave *any* kind of opening 'round here, can ya!
=>>
=>> Dr. Quin
=>>
=>> '74 Whizbang (gone, but not forgotten)
=>> multitude of trashed jap bikes and one '66 beezer
=>> Lowriders:
=>> '81 (sold to a bud @ 88k), '82 (sold to Dunedin stealer @155k), '85
(still going strong @145k)
=>> *Remove yourclothes to email me*
=>
=>That's the nice thing about good frillys. Dem "openings"..

damn! got me again!
oh crap! there's another! oh hell... I'm getting something to drink.
yeah, I'll get yours too.

<head down, shufflin to da bar>

Dr. Quin

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Jul 8, 2004, 6:19:18 PM7/8/04
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On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 21:49:26 GMT, KF/AKA AH#49 <AH#4...@your.net> babbled:

=>"Dr. Quin" wrote:
=>>

=>> On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 21:33:36 GMT, KF/AKA AH#49 <AH#4...@your.net>
babbled:
=>>

=>> =>"Dr. Quin" wrote:
=>> =>>
=>> =>> On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 20:00:45 GMT, KF/AKA AH#49 <AH#4...@your.net>

=>> babbled:
=>> =>> =>I was 18..once.


=>> =>>
=>> =>> not me... I skipped 18 and went directly to veteran

=>> =>> and it made me miss Woodstock, damn it!


=>> =>
=>> =>Did you wear a frilly thang, "Miss WoodStock"?

=>>
=>> heheheheh... can't leave *any* kind of opening 'round here, can ya!
=>
=>
=>
=>SNORK! :>
=>
=> I had no choice.
=>I'm from NJ, and so very close to NYC!

yeah... then Al gets me too! ...and me trying to be quiet 'cause the Mrs
is sleepin!

KF/AKA AH#49

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Jul 8, 2004, 6:23:39 PM7/8/04
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AH#104 wrote:
>
> Chilly Willy sed:
> > The Greasman says yer a geezer when you have grey hair, down there.
>
> How far down? North Carolina,,, or do you mean *all* the way down there;
> Florida?

Notice how I will not touch this topic?

KF/AKA AH#49

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All the more reason to wake the better half up!

Not to worry. I'll pay dearly as well.

Redbeard Emeritus

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Jul 8, 2004, 6:55:05 PM7/8/04
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On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 22:01:27 GMT, "AH#104" <ah...@yourhatatt.net>
writ:

>Chilly Willy sed:
>> The Greasman says yer a geezer when you have grey hair, down there.

>How far down? North Carolina,,, or do you mean *all* the way down there;
>Florida?

Hmmmm,
Do whiskers that have grown practically all the way down to *there*
count (doesn't seem fair), 'cause if it's just the stuff that's
actually growin down *there*, I *LIKE* it.

--
Redbeard Emeritus "The Dirt Devil, with a built-in Crevice Tool" (c)

Feelin younger already

Dr. Quin

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Jul 8, 2004, 6:58:03 PM7/8/04
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On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 22:27:18 GMT, KF/AKA AH#49 <AH#4...@your.net> babbled:

=>"Dr. Quin" wrote:
=>>

=>> On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 21:49:26 GMT, KF/AKA AH#49 <AH#4...@your.net>
babbled:
=>>

=>> =>"Dr. Quin" wrote:
=>> =>>

=>> =>> On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 21:33:36 GMT, KF/AKA AH#49 <AH#4...@your.net>

=>> babbled:
=>> =>>


=>> =>> =>"Dr. Quin" wrote:
=>> =>> =>>
=>> =>> =>> On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 20:00:45 GMT, KF/AKA AH#49
<AH#4...@your.net>

=>> =>> babbled:
=>> =>> =>> =>I was 18..once.


=>> =>> =>>
=>> =>> =>> not me... I skipped 18 and went directly to veteran

=>> =>> =>> and it made me miss Woodstock, damn it!


=>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>Did you wear a frilly thang, "Miss WoodStock"?
=>> =>>
=>> =>> heheheheh... can't leave *any* kind of opening 'round here, can
ya!
=>> =>
=>> =>
=>> =>
=>> =>SNORK! :>
=>> =>
=>> => I had no choice.

=>> =>I'm from NJ, and so very close to NYC!
=>>
=>> yeah... then Al gets me too! ...and me trying to be quiet 'cause the
Mrs
=>> is sleepin!
=>
=>All the more reason to wake the better half up!
=>
=> Not to worry. I'll pay dearly as well.

heh... like they always say... misery love company <sfsf>

ZombyWoof

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Jul 8, 2004, 8:09:04 PM7/8/04
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On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 14:32:18 GMT, Greasy Rider @ Invalid.com wrote
something wonderfully witty:

>On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 09:54:53 -0400, ZombyWoof <Zomby...@Zappa.net>
>proclaimed:
>
>>I'll be a crippled up old man before I ever retire again. I went out
>>of the military 10 years ago at age 39, but it's only a grand a month.
>>I have another 5 years in the Virginia Retirement system and need
>>fifteen more. Buy then I'll be 64. Maybe not dead, but the next best
>>thing to it.
>
>I retired at 55 and had a heart attack at 58. I'm 67 and have never
>felt better in my life. There isn't anything "next best' to being
>dead. <G>
>
Glad you are doing OK. I personally just got out of a weeks stay in
the hospital. I must have blown a seal or something. I was shitting
blood by the quart. Ended up needing a couple of transfusions. God
bless all you who are blood donors. Saved my life. On top of that I
got Phlebitis in my arm from the damn IV. I might end up going out on
disability before I ever get to retire.
--

You can run, but you'll only die tired.

ZombyWoof

ZombyWoof

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Jul 8, 2004, 8:10:15 PM7/8/04
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On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 08:48:33 -0700, Redbeard Emeritus
<redb...@volcano.net> wrote something wonderfully witty:

>On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 14:32:18 GMT, Greasy Rider @ Invalid.com writ:


>
>>I retired at 55 and had a heart attack at 58. I'm 67 and have never
>>felt better in my life. There isn't anything "next best' to being
>>dead. <G>
>

>I raise a glass to ya, Greasy.
>
>(Hope Len's listening, since he likes to assert that at some point
>(like before now, for me) every day is the best you will *ever* feel
>for the rest of your life.)
>
If today is the best day I'll ever feel I am in for a world of hurt.
Just got out of the hospital last week and am recovering. I hope to
feel better then I presently do.

ZombyWoof

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Jul 8, 2004, 8:11:44 PM7/8/04
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On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 17:00:12 GMT, "AH#104" <ah...@yourhatatt.net>
wrote something wonderfully witty:

>Greasy sed:


>>>I retired at 55 and had a heart attack at 58.
>>>I'm 67 and have never felt better in my life.
>

>State of mind... that could/would be true. Actual physical ability... don't
>think so.
>
>R.E. sed:


>> I raise a glass to ya, Greasy.
>

>I do too. Not trying to be contrary, or rain on anyone's parade... but,
>(see below)
>
>R.E. sed:


>> (Hope Len's listening, since he likes to assert that
>>at some point (like before now, for me) every day is
>>the best you will *ever* feel for the rest of your life.)
>

>The best you will *ever* feel for the rest of your life; as in physical
>aches, pains, etc... I'm not trying to put a stick in the mud... I'm saying
>get out, stay up late, have fun NOW... because it only gets harder
>(physically) from some point in your life - to the end. For some they start
>feeling the creeking of the bones at 40... others at 50, etc...
>
>I know I can't party like I used to... ok, I can; but it hurts more the next
>day. I sure as shit can't party for as long as I used to.
>
Tis sad but true. I used to be the life of the party. Any party &
every party. Now I'm in bed at 10pm most nights. One beer and I fall
asleep.

ZombyWoof

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Jul 8, 2004, 8:12:18 PM7/8/04
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On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 20:00:45 GMT, KF/AKA AH#49 <AH#4...@your.net> wrote
something wonderfully witty:

I had an 18 yo more then once.

ZombyWoof

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Jul 8, 2004, 8:13:11 PM7/8/04
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On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 20:36:00 GMT, KF/AKA AH#49 <AH#4...@your.net> wrote
something wonderfully witty:

>AH#104 wrote:


>
>> I think I said:
>> > I was 18..once.
>>
>> I stil am...
>> my body tries to tell me otherwise, everyday.
>
>Our bodies tend to fib to our minds!
>Or is that the other way around? :/
>
>While I still "'wake with wood", I get exhausted while playing
>basketball with the neighbors after ten minutes in the simmering summer
>heat.
>

The day I quit wakin with wood I'll know I'm dead.

ZombyWoof

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Jul 8, 2004, 8:15:50 PM7/8/04
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On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 09:38:41 -0700, Dr. Quin
<pi...@ieee.orgyourclothes> wrote something wonderfully witty:
<snip>
>=>I painted a Shadow for a friend last year...kinda looks like the paint
>=>job on yours. Here' a link to a picture.
>=>
>=>http://home.earthlink.net/~andythe/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/p4270009.jpg
>=>
>=>Andy aka Big Stinkie
>=>SENS TOMKAT MAMBM BS#pending
>
>I'm not a flames fan, but that's a *nice* paint job!
>
Me either, but that is a damn nice paint job. I've paid for worse.

Chilly Willy

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Jul 8, 2004, 10:04:56 PM7/8/04
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AH#104 sed:
|| Chilly Willy sed:
||| The Greasman says yer a geezer when you have grey hair, down there.
||
|| How far down? North Carolina,,, or do you mean *all* the way down
|| there; Florida?

Florida. Obviously.

--
Chilly Willy

Chilly Willy

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Jul 8, 2004, 10:06:07 PM7/8/04
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Redbeard Emeritus sed:

|| On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 22:01:27 GMT, "AH#104" <ah...@yourhatatt.net>
|| writ:
||
||| Chilly Willy sed:
|||| The Greasman says yer a geezer when you have grey hair, down there.
||
||| How far down? North Carolina,,, or do you mean *all* the way down
||| there; Florida?
||
|| Hmmmm,
|| Do whiskers that have grown practically all the way down to *there*
|| count (doesn't seem fair),

Nooo....

|| 'cause if it's just the stuff that's
|| actually growin down *there*, I *LIKE* it.

Just the stuff groeing in Florida.

--
Chilly Willy

Irv

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Jul 8, 2004, 11:16:07 PM7/8/04
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"big stinkie" <and...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:2e492522.04070...@posting.google.com...
> "Irv" <st...@mypantsnite.com> wrote in message
news:<ZF1Hc.364$lR4....@news.uswest.net>...
> > "big stinkie" <and...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:2e492522.04070...@posting.google.com...
> >
> (Snippage occurs)
> >
> > > I looked at your bike pictures on your web site. Nice looking bikes.
> >
> > The Honda was pretty, bought it that way......the Deuce isn't as pretty
> > (pretty enough though)......it's for riding.
>
> I dunno...I kinda like the Deuce, myself. Just better lines, stance,
> etc.

Didn't say I didn't like My Deuce....I LOVE the fuckin thing.........just
doesn't have the "pretty" flame paint job the Honda had.

>
> I painted a Shadow for a friend last year...kinda looks like the paint

> job on yours. Here' a link to a picture.
>
>

http://home.earthlink.net/~andythe/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/p4270009.jpg

That's cool.........few years ago when I bought my Honda the lot at work was
full of Harleys, bought my Deuce in '02. Now most of the Harley's are
gone......but mine sits among a sea of Hondas and Yamahas......

--
Steve Irving (Irv) - BS#237 DCI#1
2002 FXSTDI (Moby)
http://www.nite.com/bike.html
"Be the rain, be the rain"


Irv

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Jul 8, 2004, 11:29:32 PM7/8/04
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"ZombyWoof" <Zomby...@Zappa.net> wrote in message
news:bckqe055865qvevio...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 18:43:26 -0700, "Irv" <st...@mypantsnite.com> wrote
> something wonderfully witty:

>
> >
> >"big stinkie" <and...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >news:2e492522.04070...@posting.google.com...
> >
> >> it another 9 years and then I'll make the decision. I'll probably just
> >> quit working altogether then. Ahhhh. The retirement light at the end
> >> of the tunnel!
> >
> >Wellllll...............I've got 25+ years with "the City", and the State
> >Retirement system allowed me to purchase my military service time......so
> >I'm closing in on 30 years total.......figure I'll throw in the towel
this
> >time next year. Hells bells, they're gonna give me 70% of my pay AND 1/2
my
> >social security as soon as I go out (great deal since I'll only be 52).
At
> >that rate, I can't afford to work (there) anymore......<sfsf>

> >
> I'll be a crippled up old man before I ever retire again. I went out
> of the military 10 years ago at age 39, but it's only a grand a month.
> I have another 5 years in the Virginia Retirement system and need
> fifteen more. Buy then I'll be 64. Maybe not dead, but the next best
> thing to it.

Can ya buy any of the military service time????? I only bought 4 years, but
lets me go out a year early with 69% instead of 59% of my pay. Made a big
damn difference. Hell they're telling me you can buy reserve time now (if
you were drilling).

ZombyWoof

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Jul 9, 2004, 11:21:40 AM7/9/04
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On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 20:29:32 -0700, "Irv" <st...@mypantsnite.com> wrote
something wonderfully witty:

Not if you retired. There is also a ceiling on the maximum years that
can be purchased. Not matter, I already draw the retired check from
the military so no nice on buying additional service credit through
VRS.

Irv

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Jul 9, 2004, 2:13:09 PM7/9/04
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"ZombyWoof" <Zomby...@Zappa.net> wrote in message
news:rtdte0d5li5p24bpf...@4ax.com...

> >
> > Can ya buy any of the military service time????? I only bought 4 years,
but
> >lets me go out a year early with 69% instead of 59% of my pay. Made a big
> >damn difference. Hell they're telling me you can buy reserve time now (if
> >you were drilling).
> >
> Not if you retired. There is also a ceiling on the maximum years that
> can be purchased. Not matter, I already draw the retired check from
> the military so no nice on buying additional service credit through
> VRS.

As far as I've heard (no first hand knowledge, but from things I've been
told by co-workers who claim they are doing it), the Arizona State
Retirement System allows you to purchase military service time even if you
are retired from the military....I don't know how that works since it allows
you to get payed twice for the same years of service.....but why should the
State Retirement system care since you ARE paying for the years just as if
you had actually worked them within the system....???

T. Farragut Lipton III

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Jul 9, 2004, 3:24:39 PM7/9/04
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KF/AKA AH#49 <AH#4...@your.net> wrote in message news:<40EDB10A...@your.net>...

> My right toe and both knee's are shot to hell.

Mmmmm, perhaps your knees got too much wear when attempting to become a Rectum?

Dave Schultheis

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Jul 9, 2004, 4:10:05 PM7/9/04
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AH#104 wrote:

> I'm saying get out, stay up late, have fun NOW... because it only
> gets harder (physically) from some point in your life - to the end.

Seems reasonable.

> For some they start feeling the creeking of the bones at 40... others
> at 50, etc...

Yeah, I concur. <creak> <groan> Between me and my 14-yr-old dog, we're
keeping the Glucosamine and Chrondroitin manufacturers of America in
Cadillacs and Lincolns.

> I know I can't party like I used to... ok, I can; but it hurts more
> the next day. I sure as shit can't party for as long as I used to.

Are ya sayin' that it takes ya all night to do what you used to do all
night long? <g>


Dave S.

Dave Schultheis

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Jul 9, 2004, 4:17:11 PM7/9/04
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Al overshared <g> with:

> Happens to me too around 6am. Ever' time I'm too lazy to get up and
> piss at 3am...

Billy Crystal recently told Jay Leno about his normal morning routine:

"I wake up, go to the bathroom, get out of bed..."


Dave S.

1996 FLHR-I Road King

BS#146, DOF#181, NEWT#4, KOTOR#1, SENS, CVNS G&W, DOF # 6021, ARSE

--

dave6592 [at] accesscom [dot] com - http://www.accesscom.com/~dave6592
Dave Schultheis, San José, Silicon Valley, Santa Clara County, CA, USA

Nancy

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Jul 9, 2004, 4:45:14 PM7/9/04
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On 2004-07-08 11:54:52 -1000, "Chilly Willy" <wjgh...@nospamyahoo.com> said:
>
> The Greasman says yer a geezer when you have grey hair, down there.

Thank you, Schick Intuition!
--
Nancy
Bitch 27
'97 xl1200c
slap my face to get my attention
"Governor Bush and I are absolutely determined that we will restore a
sense of civility and decency to the debate in Washington." -- Vice
presidential candidate Dick Cheney, during the 2000 campaign
"Go fuck yourself!" --Vice President Dick Cheney on the Senate floor,
June 2004


Nancy

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Jul 9, 2004, 4:48:21 PM7/9/04
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On 2004-07-08 14:13:11 -1000, ZombyWoof <Zomby...@Zappa.net> said:
>>
> The day I quit wakin with wood I'll know I'm dead.

I haven't woken up with any for ages. <sigh>

ZombyWoof

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Jul 11, 2004, 8:35:12 AM7/11/04
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On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 20:48:21 GMT, Nancy
<mcnameen...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote something wonderfully witty:

>On 2004-07-08 14:13:11 -1000, ZombyWoof <Zomby...@Zappa.net> said:
>>>
>> The day I quit wakin with wood I'll know I'm dead.
>
>I haven't woken up with any for ages. <sigh>
>

There might be some cause for concern if you did.

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