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Jerry

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Nov 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/28/99
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Step up to the bar, and have a double, no make that a triple on me, cuz I
have some venting to do.

As some of you may or may not remember I posted here on November 5th,
asking about broken drive belts, because I had broke mine the night before.
Well I had it replaced and all seemed well, 240 dollars later.

Well this moring I was out for a ride, by myself I might ad, when I left a
stop light, wound up first gear, shifted to second and VARROOOOMMM, damn
missed a gear, pulled the clutch in shifted again, VARRRROOOOOMMMM, damn it,
tried it one more time, VARROOOOOMM, son of a bitch, I look around behind me
and I'll be god damned, I am draggin a drive belt once again for the second
time in THREE WEEKS. WTF?

Now I am thinking maybe I have a deeper problem, OR, they didnt get the
back wheel lined up properly, OR, I just got a bad belt, I dont know what in
the hell is going on here, but I cant afford a damn 170.00 dollar belt every
three weeks. The shop I had the work done at was obviously closed today, so
I will call them first thing in the morning, to discuss this issue with
them. So once again, I ask you people with a bottomless pit of Knowledge,
WTF is up with that?

Any suggestion, hints, clues, opinions, will gladly be accepted.

Thanks in advance,
Jerry
1996 XL883 (Which has fallen in love with service shops)
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Tom Hargrave Jr.

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Nov 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/29/99
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In article <s43s3g...@corp.supernews.com>, jjbe...@aye.net says...

My "original" drive belt has 30,000 miles on it and the way things look, it
will go at least 30,000 more. The secret to long drive belt life is correct
tension. Some people run them a little loose because they think it's easier on
the belt. Your drive belt is toast of you let it run too loose because the
front pully will strip off the teeth.

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DaveO

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Nov 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/29/99
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What kinda HP are you putting to the rear wheel?

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Curly Larry and

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On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 22:24:42 -0500, "Jerry" <jjbe...@aye.net> wrote:

>Step up to the bar, and have a double, no make that a triple on me, cuz I
>have some venting to do.
>
> As some of you may or may not remember I posted here on November 5th,
>asking about broken drive belts, because I had broke mine the night before.
>Well I had it replaced and all seemed well, 240 dollars later.
>
> Well this moring I was out for a ride, by myself I might ad, when I left a
>stop light, wound up first gear, shifted to second and VARROOOOMMM, damn
>missed a gear, pulled the clutch in shifted again, VARRRROOOOOMMMM, damn it,
>tried it one more time, VARROOOOOMM, son of a bitch, I look around behind me
>and I'll be god damned, I am draggin a drive belt once again for the second
>time in THREE WEEKS. WTF?
>
> Now I am thinking maybe I have a deeper problem, OR, they didnt get the
>back wheel lined up properly, OR, I just got a bad belt, I dont know what in
>the hell is going on here, but I cant afford a damn 170.00 dollar belt every
>three weeks. The shop I had the work done at was obviously closed today, so
>I will call them first thing in the morning, to discuss this issue with
>them. So once again, I ask you people with a bottomless pit of Knowledge,
>WTF is up with that?

Sounds to me like they fixed the symptom and not the problem. I'd for
sure have someone take a closer look this time. It could be a fluke
and you got a bad belt, but I doubt it.
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93 FLHS Bark-O-Glide
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Paul LeGresley

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Nov 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/29/99
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Just bad luck because my 1995 XL1200, has been to hell and bac with wheelies. A
lady friend had the same thing happen to her, two broken belt in matter of
weeks. She had 11.5" shocks and Whith Brother lowering kit, same setup as
mine.

Jerry wrote:

> Step up to the bar, and have a double, no make that a triple on me, cuz I
> have some venting to do.
>
> As some of you may or may not remember I posted here on November 5th,
> asking about broken drive belts, because I had broke mine the night before.
> Well I had it replaced and all seemed well, 240 dollars later.
>
> Well this moring I was out for a ride, by myself I might ad, when I left a
> stop light, wound up first gear, shifted to second and VARROOOOMMM, damn
> missed a gear, pulled the clutch in shifted again, VARRRROOOOOMMMM, damn it,
> tried it one more time, VARROOOOOMM, son of a bitch, I look around behind me
> and I'll be god damned, I am draggin a drive belt once again for the second
> time in THREE WEEKS. WTF?
>
> Now I am thinking maybe I have a deeper problem, OR, they didnt get the
> back wheel lined up properly, OR, I just got a bad belt, I dont know what in
> the hell is going on here, but I cant afford a damn 170.00 dollar belt every
> three weeks. The shop I had the work done at was obviously closed today, so
> I will call them first thing in the morning, to discuss this issue with
> them. So once again, I ask you people with a bottomless pit of Knowledge,
> WTF is up with that?
>

Ken Schofield

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Nov 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/29/99
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Jerry wrote:
>
> Step up to the bar, and have a double, no make that a triple on me, cuz I
> have some venting to do.
>
> As some of you may or may not remember I posted here on November 5th,
> asking about broken drive belts, because I had broke mine the night before.
> Well I had it replaced and all seemed well, 240 dollars later.
>
> Well this moring I was out for a ride, by myself I might ad, when I left a
> stop light, wound up first gear, shifted to second and VARROOOOMMM, damn
> missed a gear, pulled the clutch in shifted again, VARRRROOOOOMMMM, damn it,
> tried it one more time, VARROOOOOMM, son of a bitch, I look around behind me
> and I'll be god damned, I am draggin a drive belt once again for the second
> time in THREE WEEKS. WTF?

What's the belt look like? Any noticeable problems with it? Does it
have any teeth left on the inside? Did it tear apart, shred, split,
etc...?

How it looks is gonna lead you to the source of the problem unless you
just got a "bad" belt, but this is pretty unusual. I'd suspect that
something else is going on. If your dealer is stand-up he should take
care of you.


>
> Now I am thinking maybe I have a deeper problem, OR, they didnt get the
> back wheel lined up properly, OR, I just got a bad belt, I dont know what in
> the hell is going on here, but I cant afford a damn 170.00 dollar belt every
> three weeks. The shop I had the work done at was obviously closed today, so
> I will call them first thing in the morning, to discuss this issue with
> them. So once again, I ask you people with a bottomless pit of Knowledge,
> WTF is up with that?

There's unfortunately a bunch of reasons why your belt might blowout
suddenly, like too much motor-not enough belt, too loose a belt, ya got
a rock stuck in one of the sprockets, etc... BUT, even a poorly aligned
belt should give you 10,000 worry free miles, plus it'd chirp and squak
and make all kinds of noises to let you know that something wasn't quite
right.

Good luck Jerry, and let us know what the problem was. Good to file
this kinda stuff away for next time.

Ken
HSB#07 WOLF#13 BS#92 AH#70

Mr. Scottly

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Nov 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/29/99
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DaveO wrote:

> What kinda HP are you putting to the rear wheel?

That 883, unless EXTENSIVELY modified (100+ hp), will never produce enough
power to wipe out the belt in that short a period of time.

MrScottly#54


Merrell Wasson

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Mr. Scottly <sco...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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yeah, 100+ horsepower, and a bandit clutch. otherwise, the problem
lies on the other end of the wrench.

the big easy. snap on, or otherwise. ;-]]
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Screen Cleaner Emeritus SENS.

Jerry

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Nov 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/29/99
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It is a stock 883 except for Screamin Eagle air cleaner and slip ons. So
power is not the issue. The belt is a VERY clean cut, straight across
between two teeth. All the teeth are perfect. With the exception of the
belt being snapped there is nothing wrong with it, appearance wise, if that
made any sense.

I appreciate all the comments. The shop that did the work said they would
work with me. I am not gonna go postal YET. Lets see what happens next, I
will keep you all posted.

Thanks again.

Jerry


Jerry wrote in message ...


>Step up to the bar, and have a double, no make that a triple on me, cuz I
>have some venting to do.
>
> As some of you may or may not remember I posted here on November 5th,
>asking about broken drive belts, because I had broke mine the night before.
>Well I had it replaced and all seemed well, 240 dollars later.
>
> Well this moring I was out for a ride, by myself I might ad, when I left
a
>stop light, wound up first gear, shifted to second and VARROOOOMMM, damn
>missed a gear, pulled the clutch in shifted again, VARRRROOOOOMMMM, damn
it,
>tried it one more time, VARROOOOOMM, son of a bitch, I look around behind
me
>and I'll be god damned, I am draggin a drive belt once again for the second
>time in THREE WEEKS. WTF?
>

> Now I am thinking maybe I have a deeper problem, OR, they didnt get the
>back wheel lined up properly, OR, I just got a bad belt, I dont know what
in
>the hell is going on here, but I cant afford a damn 170.00 dollar belt
every
>three weeks. The shop I had the work done at was obviously closed today,
so
>I will call them first thing in the morning, to discuss this issue with
>them. So once again, I ask you people with a bottomless pit of Knowledge,
>WTF is up with that?
>

Jogos6910

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Nov 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/30/99
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>Subject: Drive Belt AGAIN!!!
>From: "Jerry" jjbe...@aye.net
>Date: Sun, 28 November 1999 10:24 PM EST

<snip>


> Any suggestion, hints, clues, opinions, will gladly be accepted.
>

if i were you, i'd try to calm down and really _look_ at your broken belt. i
would think you should be able to tell what did the fatal damage to it. are the
teeth gone? are the sides chewed up? is the belt snapped cleanly and the rest
of it brand new looking?
i'd even try to bring it to a local belt wholesaler/manufacturer and get his
opinion of the broken belt before going back to the place that did the work.
research and self-education are powerful tools.
good luck, and let us know how it turns out.
jogos
jogo...@aol.comUHUH ( remove UHUH )
1988 fxr 90" stroker

tm...@bellsouth.net

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Nov 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/30/99
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Jerry don't take that shit we will work with you, make them do the Job over and
tell them to look at EVERYTHING real good this time
If they had done thier Job correct and/or not given you a defective belt you
wouldn't have this same problem. Grant it if that belt was defective it's not
really the shops fault however they have to stand behind thier parts it's law,
at least in FL it's law

Tom


Jerry wrote:

> > Any suggestion, hints, clues, opinions, will gladly be accepted.
> >

> >Thanks in advance,
> > Jerry
> >1996 XL883 (Which has fallen in love with service shops)
> >remove one J to reply directly.
> >
> >

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Kickstart

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Nov 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/30/99
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Run a chain, fuck a belt

Kickstart

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Slowhand

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Merrell Wasson <2fat...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> Mr. Scottly <sco...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
> news:3842F23E...@prodigy.net...
> >
> >
> >
> > DaveO wrote:
> >
> > > What kinda HP are you putting to the rear wheel?
> >
> > That 883, unless EXTENSIVELY modified (100+ hp), will never
> produce enough
> > power to wipe out the belt in that short a period of time.
> >
> > MrScottly#54
>
> yeah, 100+ horsepower, and a bandit clutch. otherwise, the problem
> lies on the other end of the wrench.

I had a bandit clutch and about 90 hp and went through a couple. Notice I
_HAD_ a bandit clutch.
SH


Ron Christian

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Nov 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/30/99
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In article <s43s3g...@corp.supernews.com>, Jerry <jjbe...@aye.net> wrote:
> Well this moring I was out for a ride, by myself I might ad, when I left a
>stop light, wound up first gear, shifted to second and VARROOOOMMM, damn
>missed a gear, pulled the clutch in shifted again, VARRRROOOOOMMMM, damn it,
>tried it one more time, VARROOOOOMM, son of a bitch, I look around behind me
>and I'll be god damned, I am draggin a drive belt once again for the second
>time in THREE WEEKS. WTF?

I suspect it's either alignment or a materials defect. I'd vote for
alignment. When I got the Sporty back from the local dealer for it's
7.5K service, it had developed a scraping sound. I took the exhaust
and left cover off (discovering an exhaust leak in the process) and
couldn't find the problem. I then measured the alignment (which I
should have done first, but then I wouldn't have discovered the exhaust
leak) and found a half inch difference from one side to the other.
Straightened it out, no more scrape. Moral: Don't trust the shop.
Check it yourself.

The shop manual says to use an aluminum welding rod and a gromet to make
the "special tool" for measuring rear alignment. I used a brass rod I
had handy and a plastic moly that just barely fit over the rod. Sharpen
one end of the rod so it'll fit in the hole on the swingarm, bend about
an inch over, slip the moly on, go measure your bike. Works great.

Ron
--
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"People are more violently opposed to fur than leather because it's safer
to harass rich women than motorcycle gangs." - (attributed to George Carlin
or Dennis Miller -- take your pick)

Mr. Scottly

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Kickstart wrote:

> fuck a belt

I tried, but my schlong wouldn't fit through the links......

MrScottly#54


David L. Allen

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tm...@bellsouth.net wrote:
>
> Jerry don't take that shit we will work with you, make them do the Job over and
> tell them to look at EVERYTHING real good this time
> If they had done thier Job correct and/or not given you a defective belt you
> wouldn't have this same problem. Grant it if that belt was defective it's not
> really the shops fault however they have to stand behind thier parts it's law,
> at least in FL it's law
>
> Tom
>

A "defective" belt might be the shops fault if they bent the belt
sharpely
handling it and broke some of the chords in the belt. Those belts, I've
read,
should never be bent before installation.

Dave


> Jerry wrote:
>
> > It is a stock 883 except for Screamin Eagle air cleaner and slip ons. So
> > power is not the issue. The belt is a VERY clean cut, straight across
> > between two teeth. All the teeth are perfect. With the exception of the
> > belt being snapped there is nothing wrong with it, appearance wise, if that
> > made any sense.
> >
> > I appreciate all the comments. The shop that did the work said they would
> > work with me. I am not gonna go postal YET. Lets see what happens next, I
> > will keep you all posted.
> >
> > Thanks again.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > Jerry wrote in message ...
> > >Step up to the bar, and have a double, no make that a triple on me, cuz I
> > >have some venting to do.
> > >
> > > As some of you may or may not remember I posted here on November 5th,
> > >asking about broken drive belts, because I had broke mine the night before.
> > >Well I had it replaced and all seemed well, 240 dollars later.
> > >

> > > Well this moring I was out for a ride, by myself I might ad, when I left
> > a
> > >stop light, wound up first gear, shifted to second and VARROOOOMMM, damn
> > >missed a gear, pulled the clutch in shifted again, VARRRROOOOOMMMM, damn
> > it,
> > >tried it one more time, VARROOOOOMM, son of a bitch, I look around behind
> > me
> > >and I'll be god damned, I am draggin a drive belt once again for the second
> > >time in THREE WEEKS. WTF?
> > >

> > > Now I am thinking maybe I have a deeper problem, OR, they didnt get the
> > >back wheel lined up properly, OR, I just got a bad belt, I dont know what
> > in
> > >the hell is going on here, but I cant afford a damn 170.00 dollar belt
> > every
> > >three weeks. The shop I had the work done at was obviously closed today,
> > so
> > >I will call them first thing in the morning, to discuss this issue with
> > >them. So once again, I ask you people with a bottomless pit of Knowledge,
> > >WTF is up with that?
> > >
> > > Any suggestion, hints, clues, opinions, will gladly be accepted.
> > >
> > >Thanks in advance,
> > > Jerry
> > >1996 XL883 (Which has fallen in love with service shops)
> > >remove one J to reply directly.
> > >
> > >
>

tm...@bellsouth.net

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"David L. Allen" wrote:

> tm...@bellsouth.net wrote:
> >
> > Jerry don't take that shit we will work with you, make them do the Job over and
> > tell them to look at EVERYTHING real good this time
> > If they had done thier Job correct and/or not given you a defective belt you
> > wouldn't have this same problem. Grant it if that belt was defective it's not
> > really the shops fault however they have to stand behind thier parts it's law,
> > at least in FL it's law
> >
> > Tom
> >
>
> A "defective" belt might be the shops fault if they bent the belt
> sharpely
> handling it and broke some of the chords in the belt. Those belts, I've
> read,
> should never be bent before installation.

Very True but then that would not have been a defective belt, it would have been the
idiot behind the bvelt
<bg>
TOm

>
>
> Dave
>
>
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