Screamin' Eagle 103"
tusk..o&^o
putting in to new bikes these days? They charge like $6500 for it, but the
specs in the catalog on the bikes that come with that engine show a mere
14 ft-lb more torque than stock. WTF? Is this another case of EPA regs
strangling the stock version and the ones the shops install are actually a
lot better?
Drinks all 'round.
--
- tusk..o&^o BS#<?> -
-'96 rhinobike "whoa, ah say, WHOA bitch"-
- "risk is not a fuckin toggle switch" -
Roger M
"tusk..o&^o" wrote:
> Any commentary on the Creamin Beagle 103" engine the dealerships are
> putting in to new bikes these days? They charge like $6500 for it, but the
> specs in the catalog on the bikes that come with that engine show a mere
> 14 ft-lb more torque than stock. WTF? Is this another case of EPA regs
> strangling the stock version and the ones the shops install are actually a
> lot better?
>
I imagine that's a case of it being tested with stock mufflers and stock air
filter.
Roger
TL Mitchell
news:41352BB1...@adelphia.net...
Concur... things don't start happenin' in a big way til ya get close to 4000
rpms, then yer up against the rev limiter so fast it'll make yer head spin.
Flash that limiter up to 62k and get some air in and exhaust out and I'll
bet it'll try to rip yer arms outta their sockets Not a bad thing! :)
112
Paul Shirron
>
> Concur... things don't start happenin' in a big way til ya get close to 4000
> rpms, then yer up against the rev limiter so fast it'll make yer head spin.
> Flash that limiter up to 62k and get some air in and exhaust out and I'll
> bet it'll try to rip yer arms outta their sockets Not a bad thing! :)
>
> 112
>
>
I don't want to be near any Harley turning 62k. Not that it would for
long...
--
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01 FLHTCUI <-- Black
03 FLHTCUI <-- Gunmetal Pearl
James Clark
A 103 spinning 62k would definitely not be a *good* thing.
Spunky the Tuna
>
> A 103 spinning 62k would definitely not be a *good* thing.
Yeah, but if it wasn't yours it'd be damned entertaining for a moment or
two.
--
Spunky the Tuna
BS69 SENS DOF#R LSMFT EIEIO PDQ op cit
the more hurry, the speed...
AH#104
> A 103 spinning 62k would definitely not be a *good* thing.
I think it's what AH103 does when he's traveling through NYC.
--
ASSHOLE #104 Len
Michael Bain
tusk> Any commentary on the Creamin Beagle 103" engine the dealerships
tusk> are putting in to new bikes these days? They charge like $6500
tusk> for it, but the specs in the catalog on the bikes that come with
tusk> that engine show a mere 14 ft-lb more torque than stock. WTF? Is
tusk> this another case of EPA regs strangling the stock version and
tusk> the ones the shops install are actually a lot better?
Damn, might as well spend the extra $1500 and get the JIMS/HD 120".
--
Poppa
2002 FLHRI
tusk..o&^o
Warranty? The 103" has the full 2 year unlimited mileage, and I assume the
option for extended. What about the 120"?
Reliability? (I am told the TC88 was originally designed to be a 103) This
is a touring bike and cage replacement, I want some reassurance about the
relative reliability.
Also, the bike I am looking at already has a 103 in it and I am trying to
make a deal on it. Having been in the showroom taking up space, they might
be a lot more willing to haggle on it than on the more custom 120" set up.
Spunky the Tuna
> Michael Bain <po...@wetleather.com> smoked some again:
>
>>> "tusk" writes:
>>
>>> Any commentary on the Creamin Beagle 103" engine the
>>> dealerships are putting in to new bikes these days?
>> Damn, might as well spend the extra $1500 and get the JIMS/HD 120".
>>
>
> Warranty? The 103" has the full 2 year unlimited mileage, and I assume
> the option for extended. What about the 120"?
Prolly not, certainly not from the dealer. I confess that I'm an
agnostic about extended warrantees. RE has, IIRC, had some success with
an extended warrantee, but RE tends to break shit a lot. Dunno if you do
or not. A well built big motor shouldn't really have any more problems
than a well-built small motor. And (having blown the shit out of my
relatively well built 80" Evo and replacing it with a crate 113" from S&S
which has been utterly bulletproof) I'm living testamony to the values
and joys of big motah.
> Reliability? (I am told the TC88 was originally designed to be a 103)
> This is a touring bike and cage replacement, I want some reassurance
> about the relative reliability.
IMO, that depends as much on the builder as it does most anything else.
The thing that comes to my mind is that we're beginning to hear TC owners
talking about the bottom ends going TU at the 50K mile range. The
dealer's 103" isn't a stroker, is it? (I gave up trying to find it on
the HD web site) If not, then you've still got the stock bottom end.
That would be a concern for me, in terms of longevity. If, on the other
hand, the 103" is in fact a stroker, then there may well be upgraded
bearings/shafts and suchlike that would make it live possibly longer than
a stock 88" bottom end.
> Also, the bike I am looking at already has a 103 in it and I am trying
> to make a deal on it. Having been in the showroom taking up space,
> they might be a lot more willing to haggle on it than on the more
> custom 120" set up.
If they've got it on hand, I'd ask about the bottom end and such and
depending on the answers, jump on it like a big dog. If you can get it
cheap enough, you can start saving up for the Jim's bottom end it'll
eventually need.
But that's just me, and dog knows I love a big motah!
Redbeard Emeritus
<spunky...@bellsouth.net> writ:
>I confess that I'm an
>agnostic about extended warrantees. RE has, IIRC, had some success with
>an extended warrantee, but RE tends to break shit a lot.
Hey. If you look at the reality of the situation, it's a bit more
(hell, a *lot* more) passive than that. I don't believe in extended
warrantees. Have only ever bought 2 of 'em [1], ever. Only for my 2
baggers. Now if yer high-mileage and on the road (away from home), it
makes sense, because you're likely to at some point have a problem and
will probly have to pay someone to fix it. At least that was my
thinking. And it's been borne out. I think it's a comment on HDs
that these extended warrantees have each paid for themselves many
times over, but of course it's also because of they way they're
written, with unlimited mileage.
With the exception of my bikes, I don't believe in extended
warrantees. In the case of my current bike, I'd be a fuckin basket
case wondering wtf to do with the used up pile of machinery if I
didn't have it.
[1] full disclosure: I bought an extended warrantee on my
refrigerator when it started acting up and just then they sent me a
solicitation for it. It wuz much cheaper than a service call.
--
Redbeard Emeritus "The Dirt Devil, with a built-in Crevice Tool" (c)
Do you polka?
Michael Bain
Redbeard> With the exception of my bikes, I don't believe in extended
Redbeard> warrantees. In the case of my current bike, I'd be a fuckin
Redbeard> basket case wondering wtf to do with the used up pile of
Redbeard> machinery if I didn't have it.
I never buy extended warranties, and wouldn't have bought one for my
harley except that HD gave me a half point off the interest rate,
which pretty much paid for the warranty. Most of the time I figure a
good product shouldn't need an extended warranty, and that it's just
another money maker.
And, for most harley owners, that's probably true since they don't put
many miles on their bikes. I've only put 27k on mine and just had a
couple oil leaks fixed. At $80+/hr, that ran into over $600, which
only cost me $100 ($50 deductible for each occurance).
So, I too, would say it's a good thing.
--
Poppa
2002 FLHRI
David V Stone
> The thing that comes to my mind is that we're beginning to hear TC
owners
> talking about the bottom ends going TU at the 50K mile range.
My TC88 lasted only 31k when the bottom end gave out.
Stone
AA#1
IronWolve
What was the cost? I paid for the 7 year on my harley, but its my first
harley, so I decided to chance it. Nice thing too, im already getting
reayd to put a stage3 kit on it, fully covered on the warrenty.
I love how HD says SE isn't for the road, ya, sure!
-Brook
04' XL1200R
Tax Paid
David V Stone
>
> What was the cost? I paid for the 7 year on my harley, but its my first
> harley, so I decided to chance it. Nice thing too, im already getting
> reayd to put a stage3 kit on it, fully covered on the warrenty.
>
> I love how HD says SE isn't for the road, ya, sure!
>
> -Brook
> 04' XL1200R
> Tax Paid
I had the heads ported, 10.25 to 1 pistons, cams, new crank, new timing
plate and converted to a 95 incher....cost $2000.00.
Stone
AA#1
Philip Nasadowski
"David V Stone" <dmst...@home.com> wrote:
> I had the heads ported, 10.25 to 1 pistons, cams, new crank, new timing
> plate and converted to a 95 incher
Girl :)
I *should* have gone to 107 this spring but stayed at 95", albeit with
11.5:1 compression. Boy, that makes life fun :)
BTW - go gear drive in the cam area, it's NOT noisy if it's done right,
and it beats blowing up a chain tensioner.
Dennis Peterson
I'm putting a 103" kit in mine (actually having the dealer do it) and it will
prolly run close to 6 big ones before they're through putting the tools away.
For the cost of labor I could probably buy the special tools and do it my self.
Some of the cost is necessary new stuff like case studs and a larger carb. I
figger by the time I'm done selling all my pull-off parts on Ebay I'll have an
extra $50 bux to buy some chrome.
The difference cost for having them put a new standard crank into the stock 88"
engine isn't all that great when you take into account I was going to a 95"
anyway. The crank problem just kinda fell outta the sky and so 103" it is.
dp
Rich
(in article <YA7_c.51$_P3.4...@news.uswest.net>):
<snip>
> I'm putting a 103" kit in mine (actually having the dealer do it) and it will
> prolly run close to 6 big ones before they're through putting the tools away.
> For the cost of labor I could probably buy the special tools and do it my
> self.
> Some of the cost is necessary new stuff like case studs and a larger carb. I
> figger by the time I'm done selling all my pull-off parts on Ebay I'll have
> an
> extra $50 bux to buy some chrome.
>
> The difference cost for having them put a new standard crank into the stock
> 88"
> engine isn't all that great when you take into account I was going to a 95"
> anyway. The crank problem just kinda fell outta the sky and so 103" it is.
Very nice...
When do you think the bike will be ready to start breaking in the new engine?
Do you think you'll be riding it down for SNIFF?
Rich
--
FLHR
FLTRI
Dennis Peterson
It will be ready, but we will be arriving in a big silver bird from Hawaii and
so driving to Jackson - but definitely we will be there.
dp
Rich
(in article <9Pd_c.69$_P3.6...@news.uswest.net>):
> Rich wrote:
>> Very nice...
>>
>> When do you think the bike will be ready to start breaking in the new
>> engine?
>> Do you think you'll be riding it down for SNIFF?
>>
>> Rich
>
> It will be ready, but we will be arriving in a big silver bird from Hawaii
> and
> so driving to Jackson - but definitely we will be there.
Ah.... coming the western route :-).
Rich
--
FLHR
FLTRI
Roger M
David V Stone wrote:
That's because it knows you.
Roger
kay tee ar six ar@cox.net Les
How long would any bike last with a glass dildo shoved up it's tailpipe?
Chilly
>
> "Roger M" <rma...@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:4139BEB4...@adelphia.net...
>>
>>
>> David V Stone wrote:
>>
>>> > The thing that comes to my mind is that we're beginning to hear
>>> > TC owners talking about the bottom ends going TU at the 50K mile
>>> > range.
>>>
>>> My TC88 lasted only 31k when the bottom end gave out.
>>>
>>
>> That's because it knows you.
>
> How long would any bike last with a glass dildo shoved up it's
> tailpipe?
Baffles! They were glass baffles! Stone just wanted the pulse waves
back up his exhaust manifold to be timed just right!
--
Chilly
NoVA BS#226 DOF#55 MANS
04 FLHTCi - Night
www.chilly-willy.net
kay tee ar six ar@cox.net Les
"Chilly" <wjgh...@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns955A63F17BB...@216.196.97.136...
> Les sed:
>
>>
>> "Roger M" <rma...@adelphia.net> wrote in message
>> news:4139BEB4...@adelphia.net...
>>>
>>>
>>> David V Stone wrote:
>>>
>>>> > The thing that comes to my mind is that we're beginning to hear
>>>> > TC owners talking about the bottom ends going TU at the 50K mile
>>>> > range.
>>>>
>>>> My TC88 lasted only 31k when the bottom end gave out.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That's because it knows you.
>>
>> How long would any bike last with a glass dildo shoved up it's
>> tailpipe?
>
> Baffles! They were glass baffles! Stone just wanted the pulse waves
> back up his exhaust manifold to be timed just right!
His exhaust or the bikes exhaust? Uh, never mind, nobody needs that question
answered.
Spunky the Tuna
> It will be ready, but we will be arriving in a big silver bird from
> Hawaii and so driving to Jackson - but definitely we will be there.
You always do the classiest, most dramatic entrances. I really admire
that.
Every time you arrived at Casa Meshuggi West it was with smoking wheel hubs
and hypersonic squealing that set all the neighborhood dogs alight.
God loves a man who makes an entrance.
sna...@trippin.net
<spunky...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>Dennis Peterson <denn...@inetnw.com> wrote:
>
>> It will be ready, but we will be arriving in a big silver bird from
>> Hawaii and so driving to Jackson - but definitely we will be there.
>
>You always do the classiest, most dramatic entrances. I really admire
>that.
>
>Every time you arrived at Casa Meshuggi West it was with smoking wheel hubs
>and hypersonic squealing that set all the neighborhood dogs alight.
>
>God loves a man who makes an entrance.
Only to be outdone by MaGGie's exit?
Snarl... the "she knows how to raise th' bar" Asshole(tm)
--
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EKIII rides with me...
Dirty Harry
> Spunky the Tuna wrote:
>
>> Dennis Peterson wrote:
>>
>>> It will be ready, but we will be arriving in a big silver bird from
>>> Hawaii and so driving to Jackson - but definitely we will be there.
>>
>> You always do the classiest, most dramatic entrances. I really
>> admire that.
>>
>> Every time you arrived at Casa Meshuggi West it was with smoking
>> wheel hubs and hypersonic squealing that set all the neighborhood
>> dogs alight.
>>
>> God loves a man who makes an entrance.
>
> Only to be outdone by MaGGie's exit?
>
> Snarl... the "she knows how to raise th' bar" Asshole(tm)
'Twas stunt riding at it's finest. A truly memorable fire-pit tale.
Thanks for bringin' a smile to my face.
--
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Proudly in a "same sex marriage",
Sex with the same woman all the time!
Spunky the Tuna
news:hisjj017hbvehffee...@4ax.com:
LOL, yeah, you're right. That was one hell of an exit. Didn't know
whether to run for the first aid kit or applaud the stunt. I settled for
laughing 'til I fell down.
I'm really glad MaGGie has a sense of humor or she'd have definitely have
kicked my ass. I was laughing so hard I was helpless.
Maybe I shouldn't have sold that place.
sna...@trippin.net
<dirtyharryya...@invalid.gov> wrote:
>Snarl sed:
>> Spunky the Tuna wrote:
>>
>>> Dennis Peterson wrote:
>>>
>>>> It will be ready, but we will be arriving in a big silver bird from
>>>> Hawaii and so driving to Jackson - but definitely we will be there.
>>>
>>> You always do the classiest, most dramatic entrances. I really
>>> admire that.
>>>
>>> Every time you arrived at Casa Meshuggi West it was with smoking
>>> wheel hubs and hypersonic squealing that set all the neighborhood
>>> dogs alight.
>>>
>>> God loves a man who makes an entrance.
>>
>> Only to be outdone by MaGGie's exit?
>>
>> Snarl... the "she knows how to raise th' bar" Asshole(tm)
>
>'Twas stunt riding at it's finest. A truly memorable fire-pit tale.
>Thanks for bringin' a smile to my face.
Don't it tho.
Ol' Clem makes a pretty good entrance too, not near as much drama, but
subtlety is his middle name. Grin, aptly named, just falls down and
laughs his ass off. Me, I just go around pickin' everyone up...
includin' you once if I recall correctly <g>. Hell, I've even had to
pick m'self up a time er three... gotta keep in shape ya know.
Snarl... the "quicker picker upper" Asshole(tm)
Redbeard Emeritus
<denn...@inetnw.com> writ:
>> Do you think you'll be riding it down for SNIFF?
>It will be ready, but we will be arriving in a big silver bird from Hawaii
Just following the crowd since this is the *in* thing this year?
Dennis Peterson
> Dennis Peterson <denn...@inetnw.com> wrote:
>
>
>>It will be ready, but we will be arriving in a big silver bird from
>>Hawaii and so driving to Jackson - but definitely we will be there.
>
>
> You always do the classiest, most dramatic entrances. I really admire
> that.
>
> Every time you arrived at Casa Meshuggi West it was with smoking wheel hubs
> and hypersonic squealing that set all the neighborhood dogs alight.
>
> God loves a man who makes an entrance.
>
That was from my axle period. I'm now into a crankset phase with much deeper,
more expensive sounds. The last several miles with that noise I never saw a
single deer so I may be on to something.
dp
MaGGie
"Spunky the Tuna" <spunky...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:Xns955A853476928sp...@216.77.188.18...
> sna...@trippin.net wrote in
> > Only to be outdone by MaGGie's exit?
> >
> > Snarl... the "she knows how to raise th' bar" Asshole(tm)
>
> LOL, yeah, you're right. That was one hell of an exit. Didn't know
> whether to run for the first aid kit or applaud the stunt. I settled for
> laughing 'til I fell down.
>
> I'm really glad MaGGie has a sense of humor or she'd have definitely have
> kicked my ass. I was laughing so hard I was helpless.
Ah yes the infamous Evel Upheaval Tour. I had to cut that particular stunt
though...the practice sessions were making me sore for weeks.
MaGGie
sna...@trippin.net
<spunky...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>sna...@trippin.net wrote in
>news:hisjj017hbvehffee...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 16:32:18 GMT, Spunky the Tuna
>> <spunky...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Dennis Peterson <denn...@inetnw.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It will be ready, but we will be arriving in a big silver bird from
>>>> Hawaii and so driving to Jackson - but definitely we will be there.
>>>
>>>You always do the classiest, most dramatic entrances. I really admire
>>>that.
>>>
>>>Every time you arrived at Casa Meshuggi West it was with smoking wheel
>>>hubs and hypersonic squealing that set all the neighborhood dogs
>>>alight.
>>>
>>>God loves a man who makes an entrance.
>>
>> Only to be outdone by MaGGie's exit?
>>
>> Snarl... the "she knows how to raise th' bar" Asshole(tm)
>
>LOL, yeah, you're right. That was one hell of an exit. Didn't know
>whether to run for the first aid kit or applaud the stunt. I settled for
>laughing 'til I fell down.
>
>I'm really glad MaGGie has a sense of humor or she'd have definitely have
>kicked my ass. I was laughing so hard I was helpless.
She can tell that story pretty damn good too, cracks me th' fuck up.
>Maybe I shouldn't have sold that place.
Was thinkin' th' same. Thanksgiving just ain't right anymore. Was
lookin' at some pics th' other day of when we were gonna shave Randy's
head. Funniest one, Randra doesn't look concerned in th' least bit,
but Sandra looks nervous as hell, heh, heh. I'll never forget th'
first few seconds after you fired up th' new motah either... talk
about three huge, shit eatin', grins!
Snarl... the "yeah, we miss youse two" Asshole(tm)