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Andy C.

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Feb 1, 2001, 7:04:38 PM2/1/01
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I finally found the names of the colors I was looking last week.The dealer
said these were custom colors for 1998 and no part #s were available.The
only way I could have my stuff done in these colors was to send my stuff to
Harley and have them paint it.Even then he doubted they would even do it on
a 1974.
The colors are burnt orange and birch.They had a book from 1998 that had a
small swatch in it but wouldn't let me take it anywhere to get a match.Does
anyone have this book I could use,or know the paint code/color from ppg or
another brand?Booze is on the bar.

Thanks,
Andy C.
1974 FLH
"it's old,but at least I ride it(when it ain't broke)"


Panhead

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Feb 1, 2001, 9:24:12 PM2/1/01
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"Andy C." is back and wrote:
>
> I finally found the names of the colors I was looking last week.The dealer
> said these were custom colors for 1998 and no part #s were available.The
> only way I could have my stuff done in these colors was to send my stuff to
> Harley and have them paint it.Even then he doubted they would even do it on
> a 1974.
> The colors are burnt orange and birch.They had a book from 1998 that had a
> small swatch in it but wouldn't let me take it anywhere to get a match.Does
> anyone have this book I could use,or know the paint code/color from ppg or
> another brand?Booze is on the bar.


Well, great googily moogly, goody for you!

On the other hand, I thought you were sick and tired of all of
us, and went away?

Darn shame.

I have a shit load of color books and etc. that I could use to
go down a local stealership so as to acquire a decent match or
cross reference to said swatches but, I don't think you like me.

Such is life.

Bob La Londe

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Feb 1, 2001, 9:50:25 PM2/1/01
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Ah... Panhead. Go ahead and help him anyway. You are a bigger guy than
that.


Panhead <panmy...@intac.com> wrote in message
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Michelobe

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Feb 2, 2001, 7:02:07 AM2/2/01
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In article <qQme6.10359$p8.19...@typhoon.southeast.rr.com>,
GCulb...@triad.rr.com says...
Well good luck getting them to paint it. My bike has the 2000 custom
colors. According to customer service you have to have the correct VIN
to get it painted. If I wreck the bike and want it the same colors I
have to have them paint the parts. The only ones they will paint are the
fenders and tank. I wanted to get an airdam and want it painted to
match. They won't sell the paint or paint it, you can't even get color
matched parts in the custom colors.


Michelobe
2000 FXDL

hawgeye

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Feb 2, 2001, 9:14:32 AM2/2/01
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"Andy C." wrote...

> I finally found the names of the colors I was looking last week.The
dealer
> said these were custom colors for 1998 and no part #s were available.The
> only way I could have my stuff done in these colors was to send my stuff
to
> Harley and have them paint it.Even then he doubted they would even do it
on
> a 1974.
> The colors are burnt orange and birch.They had a book from 1998 that had
a
> small swatch in it but wouldn't let me take it anywhere to get a
match.Does
> anyone have this book I could use,or know the paint code/color from ppg or
> another brand?Booze is on the bar.

How close of a match are these colors to any of the stock (non custom)
paints that H-D has used in recent years? They offer a birch white for 2001
and how close is the bronze pearl to burnt orange? They've had an orange
color for the past couple of years.
The chances of you getting an exact match even from a swatch, which is
probably just a color photo, is slim. Since no numbers are available you're
probably better off going to your paint supplier and looking through their
paint chip books and finding two colors that are similar.
I agree with him about H-D not doing it, I'm not even sure they will do used
tanks. I know they won't do aftermarket stuff. Also the last time I heard,
there was at least an 8 week turnaround.


--
hawgeye AH#96 BS#98 CTNS SENS
Stealers/Dealers page: http://www.hawgeye.com/sd.htm
rmh FAQ: http://home.earthlink.net/~mildness/yo/frames/faqv2frm.html


Andy C.

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Feb 2, 2001, 12:17:09 PM2/2/01
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"Panhead" <panmy...@intac.com> wrote in message

> Well, great googily moogly, goody for you!


>
> On the other hand, I thought you were sick and tired of all of
> us, and went away?
>
> Darn shame.
>
> I have a shit load of color books and etc. that I could use to
> go down a local stealership so as to acquire a decent match or
> cross reference to said swatches but, I don't think you like me.
>
> Such is life.

I have been back.I wrote my apology to the group and have continued to
post.I have had a problem with blown base gaskets and have had many good
folks help me.If you don't accept my apology,fine.Next time I need help i'll
post it this way-"Need help with(exept Panhead)turn signal fluid"

Andy C.

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Feb 2, 2001, 12:22:38 PM2/2/01
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"hawgeye" <te...@hawgeyespam.com> wrote in message

> How close of a match are these colors to any of the stock (non custom)
> paints that H-D has used in recent years? They offer a birch white for
2001
> and how close is the bronze pearl to burnt orange? They've had an orange
> color for the past couple of years.
> The chances of you getting an exact match even from a swatch, which is
> probably just a color photo, is slim. Since no numbers are available
you're
> probably better off going to your paint supplier and looking through their
> paint chip books and finding two colors that are similar.
> I agree with him about H-D not doing it, I'm not even sure they will do
used
> tanks. I know they won't do aftermarket stuff. Also the last time I
heard,
> there was at least an 8 week turnaround.
>
>
> --
> hawgeye AH#96 BS#98 CTNS SENS
> Stealers/Dealers page: http://www.hawgeye.com/sd.htm
> rmh FAQ: http://home.earthlink.net/~mildness/yo/frames/faqv2frm.html
>

> The orange is like nothing i've seen.I guess going to the paint shop and
just picking something is my best option.I'm surely not having H-D paint
it.I've found a great painter who has been painting cars along time and
doesn't know yet how expensive motorcycle paint jobs are.

hawgeye

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Feb 2, 2001, 12:59:37 PM2/2/01
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"Andy C." wrote...

>
> I've found a great painter who has been painting cars along time and
> doesn't know yet how expensive motorcycle paint jobs are.

No offense to car painters but be very careful choosing a painter that has
very little to no bike painting experience.
There are certain things the painter should know. I've dealt with paint
jobs done by car painters, they looked great but the job didn't last but
would have had they known a few things.

73sportster

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Feb 2, 2001, 1:11:07 PM2/2/01
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in article dACe6.35124$2X4....@petpeeve.ziplink.net, hawgeye at
te...@hawgeyespam.com wrote on 2/2/01 12:59 PM:

Hey Hawgeye! What kind of things? Kenny is still prepping his frame. He's
painted a few bikes, but is primarily a car painter. The bike he painted
over a year ago still looks good. Want to share anything that I can pass on
to him? Of course he's pretty sure he knows everything, at least he acts
like it. LOL (and just kidding really) Have a drink with me while ya think
about it. Hey Bartender! Can we get a round over here? Thanks!
--
Rosie

Never pass up the opportunity to go for a joy ride.

Panhead

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Feb 2, 2001, 1:37:18 PM2/2/01
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73sportster wrote:
>
> in article dACe6.35124$2X4....@petpeeve.ziplink.net, hawgeye at
> te...@hawgeyespam.com wrote on 2/2/01 12:59 PM:
>
> > "Andy C." wrote...
> >>
> >> I've found a great painter who has been painting cars along time and
> >> doesn't know yet how expensive motorcycle paint jobs are.
> >
> > No offense to car painters but be very careful choosing a painter that has
> > very little to no bike painting experience.
> > There are certain things the painter should know. I've dealt with paint
> > jobs done by car painters, they looked great but the job didn't last but
> > would have had they known a few things.
> >
> > --
> > hawgeye AH#96 BS#98 CTNS SENS
> > Stealers/Dealers page: http://www.hawgeye.com/sd.htm
> > rmh FAQ: http://home.earthlink.net/~mildness/yo/frames/faqv2frm.html
> >
> >
> Hey Hawgeye! What kind of things?

In my opinion, it's primarily the gas tanks and the preparation
that is needed prior to painting them, as well as how one goes
about the application around the gasoline filler opening.

> Kenny is still prepping his frame. He's
> painted a few bikes, but is primarily a car painter. The bike he painted
> over a year ago still looks good. Want to share anything that I can pass on
> to him? Of course he's pretty sure he knows everything, at least he acts
> like it. LOL (and just kidding really) Have a drink with me while ya think
> about it. Hey Bartender! Can we get a round over here? Thanks!

I started as a (gasp!) "evil car painter" in the mid seventies
and then just recently, well since 1993, made the leap to JUST
motorcycles.. and mail boxes much to everyones delight, except a
few screwy Swedes. ;^/
Of course during those first twenty years, I was painting bikes
and anything else that got in front of my Sata Spritzenpistols as
well as cars.

What I have learned is that certain customers are just fanatical
pricks.
The worst being Corvette owners followed closely by Porsche 911
"people", with H-D owners coming in at around fifth on a scale of
1 to 10.

The most important thing any painter should have are the two
"P's"
Patience and Pride, especially when your dealing with a customer
that is looking directly at the paint all of the time he's riding
it.

python

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Feb 2, 2001, 2:16:08 PM2/2/01
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In article <dACe6.35124$2X4....@petpeeve.ziplink.net>,

"hawgeye" <te...@hawgeyespam.com> wrote:
>
> No offense to car painters but be very careful choosing a
> painter that has very little to no bike painting experience.
> There are certain things the painter should know. I've dealt
> with paint jobs done by car painters, they looked great but
> the job didn't last but would have had they known a few things.

Like improperly painting around gas caps. Looks great at first, then
starts to bubble up later, causing the whole thing to need to be
repainted.


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hawgeye

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Feb 2, 2001, 2:30:15 PM2/2/01
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"Panhead" wrote...
> 73sportster wrote:

> >
> >hawgeye at wrote:
> >
> > > "Andy C." wrote...
> > >>
> > >> I've found a great painter who has been painting cars along time and
> > >> doesn't know yet how expensive motorcycle paint jobs are.
> > >
> > > No offense to car painters but be very careful choosing a painter that
has
> > > very little to no bike painting experience.
> > > There are certain things the painter should know. I've dealt with
paint
> > > jobs done by car painters, they looked great but the job didn't last
but
> > > would have had they known a few things.

> > Hey Hawgeye! What kind of things?

> In my opinion, it's primarily the gas tanks and the preparation
> that is needed prior to painting them, as well as how one goes
> about the application around the gasoline filler opening.

In a nutshell that is what I was referring to along with the type of
paint/primer.
Last year I did a guys tin that had been previously painted by an "evil car
painter" :-),
He did a great looking job but after a year or so the paint started to
bubble around the
filler and the crossover lines had become clogged with residual paint.
Needless to say the tank was the same color on the inside and out.

> The most important thing any painter should have are the two
> "P's"
> Patience and Pride, especially when your dealing with a customer
> that is looking directly at the paint all of the time he's riding
> it.

Yup, and people wonder why it takes so long to do a bike.

Michelobe

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Feb 2, 2001, 4:00:47 PM2/2/01
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Snip

> The chances of you getting an exact match even from a swatch, which is
> probably just a color photo, is slim.

I did find a touch up paint kit for the custom colors. I was supposed to
be 4 1/2 ounce bottles. I wondered if you thinned it out and airbrushed
it on something if the color match systems would work.

Michelobe
2000 FXDL

BFree069

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Feb 2, 2001, 4:06:26 PM2/2/01
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>Subject: Re: Harley Custom Paint
>From: Michelobe
Original post from Panheads freind

> I finally found the names of the colors I was looking last week.The dealer
>> said these were custom colors for 1998 and no part #s were available.The
>> only way I could have my stuff done in these colors was to send my stuff to
>> Harley and have them paint

then


>My bike has the 2000 custom
>colors. According to customer service you have to have the correct VIN
>to get it painted. If I wreck the bike and want it the same colors I
>have to have them paint the parts. The only ones they will paint are the
>fenders and tank. I wanted to get an airdam and want it painted to
>match. They won't sell the paint or paint it, you can't even get color
>matched parts in the custom colors.
>
>
>Michelobe

Take your sample fender, tank whatever to a PPG shop that mixes paint. They can
shoot your tank or whatever with a digital camera and the computer will make an
exact duplicate of the color. This is most helpful when you only want to paint
one part, the digital imaging takes into account any fading that has occured.
When I got a bigass rock chip on my "nugget yellow" fender I tried this and the
results was perfect. Just my 2 1/2 cents , so theres no need to bitch and moan
about HDs proprietory colors. Something we can all drink too..

Michelobe

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Feb 2, 2001, 4:48:15 PM2/2/01
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Snip

> Take your sample fender, tank whatever to a PPG shop that mixes paint. They can
> shoot your tank or whatever with a digital camera and the computer will make an
> exact duplicate of the color. This is most helpful when you only want to paint
> one part, the digital imaging takes into account any fading that has occured.
> When I got a bigass rock chip on my "nugget yellow" fender I tried this and the
> results was perfect. Just my 2 1/2 cents , so theres no need to bitch and moan
> about HDs proprietory colors. Something we can all drink too..
>

didn't mean to sound like I was bitching just stating what I found out.
I tried to get it matched but the people that tried came up empty
handed. I was told that the pearl paint was messing up the scanner.

Michelobe
2000 FXDL

Walker

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Feb 2, 2001, 9:49:10 PM2/2/01
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hawgeye wrote:
>
> "Panhead" wrote...
> > 73sportster wrote:
> > >
> > >hawgeye at wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Andy C." wrote...
> > > >>

-- snip --


>
> > > Hey Hawgeye! What kind of things?
>
> > In my opinion, it's primarily the gas tanks and the preparation
> > that is needed prior to painting them, as well as how one goes
> > about the application around the gasoline filler opening.
>
> In a nutshell that is what I was referring to along with the type of
> paint/primer.
> Last year I did a guys tin that had been previously painted by an "evil car
> painter" :-),
> He did a great looking job but after a year or so the paint started to
> bubble around the
> filler and the crossover lines had become clogged with residual paint.
> Needless to say the tank was the same color on the inside and out.
>

Okay, just in case one takes his tank to a painter, what is the correct
way or trick in painting around the tank filler/crossovers? i.e. is
there something obvious that he should have done in prepping the job so
that you could look at it before he starts spraying and see if it is
likely to bubble up later? Thanks.

__walker

Panhead

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Feb 3, 2001, 8:33:03 AM2/3/01
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As far as the crossovers, that's an easy one.
Just mask off the tips of the tubes.
The gas filler depends on if it's an "inny" or the older style
"outy".
For the outies, I mask the spout off about a 1/8 to a 1/4 inch
down the outside.
For the innies I mask about the same distance down the inside
and completely seal the hole, of course.
For added "protection" I seal the edge where the paint and the
bare metal meets with a bit of Kreemâ„¢ or other gas tank liner
stuff if I have it.

dcar...@my-deja.com

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Feb 4, 2001, 12:44:10 PM2/4/01
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In article <MPG.14e45dbaa...@news.iland.net>,
> the dealer has lock on colors, no vin no colors

JusCruisin

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Feb 5, 2001, 4:12:01 AM2/5/01
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Got any mates that own an auto refinishing shop. They can look at colours
and mix them up close as a pin.
They can also access aftermarket paint codes and get the tints near purrfect
may take a little and cost a bit, but EVRY colou is made up of 4 basic
primary colours and it can be done....

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