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Steve Irving

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Jun 29, 2009, 1:54:10 PM6/29/09
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Al wrote:
> A little hard to fit in the ankle holster but...
> http://deltamediallc.com/products/btbreloaded/tips/btbtip4.html
>

VERY cool.......should easily fit in carry on luggage......


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nunya

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"Al - on the lappy" <BS205@no_spam.com> wrote in message
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> Steve Irving wrote:
>> Al wrote:
>>> A little hard to fit in the ankle holster but...
>>> http://deltamediallc.com/products/btbreloaded/tips/btbtip4.html
>
>>
>> VERY cool.......should easily fit in carry on luggage......
>>
>>
>
> Or saddlebag.
>
> -- BS205

For some reason I have been carrying a laser sighted M11 in the truck for
about the past year. Not very accurate or long range but I hope the
intimidation factor of a laser sighted machine pistol would be more
effective at stopping a fight than actually shooting someone with a little
pocket pistol.
michael


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nunya

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> On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:54:10 -0700, Steve Irving <sd...@nospamq.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Al wrote:
>>> A little hard to fit in the ankle holster but...
>>> http://deltamediallc.com/products/btbreloaded/tips/btbtip4.html
>>>
>>
>>VERY cool.......should easily fit in carry on luggage......
>
>
> yea, cool looking, but not as impressive as it looks,

My opinion also. if your going to carry a rifle, it might as well be
chambered for a rifle cartridge.
michael


DM

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Jun 30, 2009, 10:04:15 PM6/30/09
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nunya wrote:

> My opinion also. if your going to carry a rifle, it might as well be
> chambered for a rifle cartridge.
> michael
>
>

Well then I guess that means my lever-action .45LC is out.

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nunya

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"DM" <fi...@nospam.bs221.com> wrote in message
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far be it from me to cast aspersions on the venerable long colt. its a very
fine cartridge and probably the best of its kind in its day. i own a lever
action .44 mag that i got in a trade sometime back but other than a
curiosity, there is nothing it can do that another firearm can't do better.
my .454 casul can out perform it in a handgun and in the same size rifle
package, a good od .35 remington or a .444 can really put a gaping hole in
something.

back to the OP, if i am going to carry a rifle sized carbine, give me at
least a .223"/5.56mm cartridge. if i m doing the pistol cartridge thing,
one of my m-10/11's are much more compact and do about the same thing.
IMHO, YMMV and all the other standard disclaimers are applicable.
michael

DM

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Jul 1, 2009, 11:20:36 AM7/1/09
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DM wrote:
> nunya wrote:
>
>> My opinion also. if your going to carry a rifle, it might as well be
>> chambered for a rifle cartridge.
>> michael
>>
> Well then I guess that means my lever-action .45LC is out.
>
I obviously meant .44LC. Duh.

Arie Bresser

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"DM" wrote ...

> DM wrote:
>> Well then I guess that means my lever-action .45LC is out.
>>
> I obviously meant .44LC. Duh.

Really??? Are you sure?

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DM

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Jul 1, 2009, 10:43:50 PM7/1/09
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Ok, so it's been one o' them days. Cleaned all my .40s, cleaned my 1911,
cleaned the 12 ga and the rifle, and got myself all fuckered up. I was
right the first time, and somehow mind-fucked myself into thinking I got
it wrong.

Thanks for keeping me straight. Since I'm gonna put 50 rounds through it
this weekend I better know what the hell I'm shooting.

Arie Bresser

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"DM" wrote...

>
> Thanks for keeping me straight. Since I'm gonna put 50 rounds through it
> this weekend I better know what the hell I'm shooting.

That is something you might want to get right.

Mike Gordon

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Arie Bresser wrote:


And never unconsider "cal.30 Carbine".

A great rifle round, and when used in a Ruger Blackhawk,... POW!

Just move the paper targets back a bit more, as the flame that emits
from it tends to burn the target, and ya can't see if ya hit the 10! :/

Rich Johns

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"Al " <BSlug205@NOSPAM_SUCKA.com> wrote in message
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>
> A little hard to fit in the ankle holster but...
> http://deltamediallc.com/products/btbreloaded/tips/btbtip4.html

Cool weapon.

I liked the shirt the guy in the video was wearing.

Is the Mini-14 really on the Banned list? Or expected to be added. Would
current owners be grandfathered?

I'm just asking this as a what if type question... not that I have actually
had one since 1981 or anything like that...

Rich

Grumman-581

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Jul 26, 2009, 1:50:34 AM7/26/09
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DM <fi...@nospam.bs221.com> wrote in
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> Well then I guess that means my lever-action .45LC is out.

Yep... You're going to have to move up in the world... A .45-70 would be
about right...

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Grumman-581

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"Rich Johns" <Richard...@verizon.net> wrote in
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> Is the Mini-14 really on the Banned list? Or expected to be added.
> Would current owners be grandfathered?
>
> I'm just asking this as a what if type question... not that I have
> actually had one since 1981 or anything like that...

I believe it was on the last ban list... I bought one at that time since I
figured I wasn't going to let some coward ass liberals tell me what
firearms I could or could not own...

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Snag

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Grumman-581 wrote:
> "Rich Johns" <Richard...@verizon.net> wrote in
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>> Is the Mini-14 really on the Banned list? Or expected to be added.
>> Would current owners be grandfathered?
>>
>> I'm just asking this as a what if type question... not that I have
>> actually had one since 1981 or anything like that...
>
> I believe it was on the last ban list... I bought one at that time
> since I figured I wasn't going to let some coward ass liberals tell
> me what firearms I could or could not own...

I think we're going to find that the gun bans Obamessiah has in mind ain't
gonna happen . Too many politicians have seen the handwriting on the wall ,
ain't gonna jeopardize re-election over it .

Snag


Steve Irving

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Jul 26, 2009, 11:21:58 PM7/26/09
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I've thought/said that for a long time.....there are enough "real" issues that
need worked on that picking out a fringe issue to fiddle with only distracts
from important stuff......and endangers THAT work.

I just wish SOME folks would realize this and stop the panic buying and
hording.....I'd like to be able to buy some ammo and go to the range for some
target practice.

Grumman-581

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Steve Irving <sd...@nospamq.com> wrote in
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> I've thought/said that for a long time.....there are enough "real"
> issues that need worked on that picking out a fringe issue to fiddle
> with only distracts from important stuff......and endangers THAT work.

I have full confidence in the Congress Critters to screw up whatever they
touch...

> I just wish SOME folks would realize this and stop the panic buying
> and hording.....I'd like to be able to buy some ammo and go to the
> range for some target practice.

OK, I promise not to buy anything for awhile... I've got 41K of primers, 9
lbs of powder, about a dozen or so AR-15 lowers, and around 150 lbs of
lead... I'm probably a bit low on the lead and the powder...

Native

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Jul 27, 2009, 5:26:23 AM7/27/09
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"Snag" <snag...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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You're right, they gave up trying to outright ban them in favor of
making it cost so much, the average citizen won't be able to afford it.
With legislation, they will require registration, fingerprints, etc... and
impose HEAVY taxes on weapons and ammo.

Check it out... Currently in committee:
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/text or Google HR 45 Blair Holt
Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009. You will get all the
information.



Snag

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Jul 27, 2009, 6:12:55 AM7/27/09
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Are those finished lowers ? My son and I have been researching a build
based on an 80% lower ... I have a machine shop (my hobby) in the back yard
.
Finally , we have a source for reloading supplies again - Bass Pro Shops
now has a limited supply in Memphis .
--
Snag
"90 FLHTCU "Strider"
'39 WLDD "PopCycle"
BS 132/SENS/DOF


Snag

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If you check , you'll find that to be pretty much a dead issue . They keep
bringin' it up as a scare tactic ...

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Steve Irving

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Jul 27, 2009, 10:41:51 AM7/27/09
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Snag wrote:

>>
>> Check it out... Currently in committee:
>> http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/text or Google HR 45 Blair
>> Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009. You will get
>> all the information.
>
> If you check , you'll find that to be pretty much a dead issue . They keep
> bringin' it up as a scare tactic ...

Correct......

The guy who introduced the bill did it back in 2007 too, both times he's been
unable to get a co-sponsor, and both times it's been buried in a sub-comittee
never to see the light of day.

But the internet seems to give things like this legs to run on, and certain
types of people panic and run amok......

Grumman-581

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"Snag" <snag...@comcast.net> wrote in
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> Are those finished lowers ? My son and I have been researching a
> build based on an 80% lower ... I have a machine shop (my hobby) in
> the back yard . Finally , we have a source for reloading supplies
> again - Bass Pro Shops now has a limited supply in Memphis .

Yeah... Stripped, but finished... Mega (MMC) "Gator" model...

Snag

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Grumman-581 wrote:
> "Snag" <snag...@comcast.net> wrote in
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>> Are those finished lowers ? My son and I have been researching a
>> build based on an 80% lower ... I have a machine shop (my hobby) in
>> the back yard . Finally , we have a source for reloading supplies
>> again - Bass Pro Shops now has a limited supply in Memphis .
>
> Yeah... Stripped, but finished... Mega (MMC) "Gator" model...

That means an FFL is needed for transfer , and there will be a record of
that transfer ... the whole idea was no records ... besides , I like the
idea of puttin' all those tools to a good use !

Grumman-581

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"Snag" <snag...@comcast.net> wrote in
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> That means an FFL is needed for transfer , and there will be a
> record of
> that transfer ... the whole idea was no records ... besides , I like
> the idea of puttin' all those tools to a good use !

An FFL was needed for the initial transfer to me... If I sell any of them,
no FFL is needed... At least not here in the Republic of Texas...

Grumman-581

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"Snag" <snag...@comcast.net> wrote in
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> That means an FFL is needed for transfer , and there will be a
> record of
> that transfer ... the whole idea was no records ... besides , I like
> the idea of puttin' all those tools to a good use !

http://www.superiorarms.com/products_main.php?pid=24

Snag

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Grumman-581 wrote:
> "Snag" <snag...@comcast.net> wrote in
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>
>> That means an FFL is needed for transfer , and there will be a
>> record of
>> that transfer ... the whole idea was no records ... besides , I like
>> the idea of puttin' all those tools to a good use !
>
> http://www.superiorarms.com/products_main.php?pid=24

Too bad I don't live in Texas , I'd probably talk to you about one (or
more ) of those you have ... The price is right on those raw forgings , and
I've got the drawings , but that's a lot of machining , and I'm not sure I
want to spend that much time on one right now . The son is looking at buying
an 80% forging , that's probably where we'll start - for the first one .

--
Snag
Wannabe Machinist


Grumman-581

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"Snag" <snag...@comcast.net> wrote in
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> Too bad I don't live in Texas , I'd probably talk to you about one
> (or more ) of those you have ...

Where you live?

Cracker

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On Jul 27, 6:12 am, "Snag" <snag_...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Finally , we have a source for reloading supplies again - Bass Pro Shops
> now has a limited supply in Memphis .

Only if you're made of money. They overcharge for everything, big
time.

Your best bet is to buy in the largest quantities available, when they
are available. Powder Valley, for example, had Wolf large pistol
primers available in the last few days.

Grumman-581

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Cracker <plee...@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:522d86a2-0d9c-48e3-b573-
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> Your best bet is to buy in the largest quantities available, when they
> are available. Powder Valley, for example, had Wolf large pistol
> primers available in the last few days.

Yep, that's where my LPMs came from... Haven't had a chance to use them
yet... I'm working through various SPMs right now for .357mag and
.38specials that are loaded with the same powder charge... Just some
plinking ammo for armadillos when they come around the house and tease the
dogs... 2.7 grains of Hodgdon Clays with a 147 grain LRN bullet... Figured
I would load up all the .357mags and .38specials with this before starting
on my other calibers...

Snag

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Grumman-581 wrote:
> "Snag" <snag...@comcast.net> wrote in
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>> Too bad I don't live in Texas , I'd probably talk to you about one
>> (or more ) of those you have ...
>
> Where you live?

We have a house in Memphis Tn . And a little piece of the Ozarks near
Mountain View Arkansas .
--
Snag
We'd rather live in Arkansas ...


Snag

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I don't always have the funds to stock up ... Actually , I'm in pretty
good shape except for slugs . And I paid less at BPS than Powder Valley
wants for a box of Speer .277/130 gr HotCor slugs ... They might not be
cheaper for everything , but they were for this item .

Al

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Snag wrote:
> Grumman-581 wrote:
>> "Snag" <snag...@comcast.net> wrote in
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>>> Too bad I don't live in Texas , I'd probably talk to you about one
>>> (or more ) of those you have ...
>> Where you live?
>
> We have a house in Memphis Tn . And a little piece of the Ozarks near
> Mountain View Arkansas .


You know the Morrison's who own the wrecking yard near Rd 263 and
Hwy 66?

--BS205

Steve Irving

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Snag wrote:

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> I don't always have the funds to stock up ...

Stock up???? I can't buy a box of shells.......frikkin shelves are empty everywhere.

Still can't figure out why people are freaking out and filling their "bunkers"
with tens of thousands of rounds......

DM

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Steve Irving wrote:
> Snag wrote:
>
>> I don't always have the funds to stock up ...
>
> Stock up???? I can't buy a box of shells.......frikkin shelves are empty everywhere.
>
> Still can't figure out why people are freaking out and filling their "bunkers"
> with tens of thousands of rounds......
>
Yeah, no kidding. My thumbs will be tired from reloading magazines after
the first couple hundred rounds, I'd be dead before I got to 1000.

Not that I wouldn't try.

--
Fins BS#221 AH#135
2007 FLHTCU
..-. -.-- -.-- ..-. ..-.

Snag

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That would be at the turnoff to head up to Fox . I don't , but I'd bet Old
Crow does - or at least that he knows of them . He lives in Fox ...

Steve Irving

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DM wrote:
> Steve Irving wrote:
>> Snag wrote:
>>
>>> I don't always have the funds to stock up ...
>>
>> Stock up???? I can't buy a box of shells.......frikkin shelves are
>> empty everywhere.
>>
>> Still can't figure out why people are freaking out and filling their
>> "bunkers"
>> with tens of thousands of rounds......
>>
> Yeah, no kidding. My thumbs will be tired from reloading magazines after
> the first couple hundred rounds, I'd be dead before I got to 1000.
>
> Not that I wouldn't try.
>

You've been able to find primers??????

Sheesh man, down here even all the reloading equipment vanished off the shelves.

Steve Irving

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Oops...you weren't talking about reloading.......<sfsf>

Snag

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Steve Irving wrote:
> Snag wrote:
>
>>
>> I don't always have the funds to stock up ...
>
> Stock up???? I can't buy a box of shells.......frikkin shelves are
> empty everywhere.
>
> Still can't figure out why people are freaking out and filling their
> "bunkers"
> with tens of thousands of rounds......


Because of idiots that keep bringin' up stuff that's dead - like HR45 . I
don't have 10's of thousands , but I have enough ... Remember that movie
"Deer Hunter" ? He only took one round when he went hunting . I also believe
in making every round count . No "spray and pray" in our family .

AH#104

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Steve Irv sed:

> Still can't figure out why people are freaking
>out and filling their "bunkers" with tens of
>thousands of rounds......

I was just in Cabela's in Scarborough, Maine today.
Plenty of ammo of all kinds, and regularly priced.

ASSHOLE#104 Len

Snag

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BPS has a lot of stuff on the shelves , but I'm not sure what "regularly
priced" is these days . I useta pay 13-15 bucks for a box of 50 .45 ACP's ,
didn't check what they were chargin' when I was in looking for .270 slugs .

LarryInEastTn

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"DM" <fi...@nospam.bs221.com> wrote in message
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>
> My thumbs will be tired from reloading magazines after the first couple
> hundred rounds, I'd be dead before I got to 1000.
> --
> Fins BS#221 AH#135


Amateur.<d/n/r>
--
Larry
SENS, DOF# 29, SLOB# 14, BS# 249
88 FLSTC, 05 XL883L, 06 FLHTC


DM

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LarryInEastTn wrote:
> "DM" <fi...@nospam.bs221.com> wrote in message
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>> My thumbs will be tired from reloading magazines after the first couple
>> hundred rounds, I'd be dead before I got to 1000.
>> --
>> Fins BS#221 AH#135
>
> Amateur.<d/n/r>

I'd say that for that situation we're pretty much all amateurs. Tell me
about the last time you were in a gun battle where you expended more
than a few hundred rounds from a handgun.

"There I was, sittin' in a bar mindin' my own damn bidness..."

Steve Irving

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I was at Dick's Sporting Goods in Glendale, Arizona Sunday....cupboard was damn
near bare......

They seemed to have a bunch of .22 ammo, and a sparse collection of rifle
calibers. The shelves for pistol ammo were bare. Guy told me they get their
deliveries on Tuesdays and whatever they get is usually gone by noon......

I've got a Sportsmen's Warehouse down the street from me......they've been outa
ammo and reloading supplies for a while. But that has to do more with their
corporate bankruptcy, this store will be staying open and receiving inventory
from stores elsewhere that are closing.....and then......ordering/stocking may
resume as "normal".

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Steve Irving <sd...@nospamq.com> wrote in
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> Still can't figure out why people are freaking out and filling their
> "bunkers" with tens of thousands of rounds......

Well, you never know when the government is going to decide that it doesn't
like your religion or whatever and decide to come exterminate you... Look
what happened to Waco...

Grumman-581

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Steve Irving <sd...@nospamq.com> wrote in
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> You've been able to find primers??????
>
> Sheesh man, down here even all the reloading equipment vanished off
> the shelves.

I was more than happy to buy from the local shop a couple hundred primers
at a time, but once it got where you couldn't find *any* locally, I went
ahead and ordered a couple of batches from Grafs and Powder Valley... When
you have to pay the $20 or so extra for HAZMAT shipping, you want to make
it worthwhile, so you order a bit more than you would normally buy at one
time... For me, that was 20K of small pistol magnum primers and 20K of
large pistol magnum primers... I figure I have enough primers until the
next Republican or two gets into office... Powder is easy enough to find if
you are not that picky and willing to develop your own loads... I picked up
8 lbs of Alliant "Promo" powder to get it a try...

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Bob Mann

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George Pollard <geo...@hiwaay.net> wrote in news:4a70159d$1...@127.0.0.1:

> Grumman-581 wrote:
>
>>
>> Well, you never know when the government is going to decide that it
>> doesn't like your religion or whatever and decide to come exterminate
>> you... Look what happened to Waco...
>>
>

> What did I miss? What happened to Wakko?
>

I guess that burning feeling down below was more than just 'roids. <G,D&R>

--
Bob Mann

Cap'n, ah need moor pow'r.

Al

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Grumman-581 wrote:
> Steve Irving <sd...@nospamq.com> wrote in
> news:4a6f6d1f$0$1334$815e...@news.qwest.net:
>
>> Still can't figure out why people are freaking out and filling their
>> "bunkers" with tens of thousands of rounds......
>
> Well, you never know when the government is going to decide that it doesn't
> like your religion or whatever and decide to come exterminate you... Look
> what happened to Waco...
>

Oh shit. He dropped the bike again??

--BS205 the "god damn that gravel!" Slug

Steve Irving

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No...he was talking about the big BBQ the government employees had at that place
where all the child molester's lived.......

Al

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Steve Irving wrote:
> Al wrote:
>> Grumman-581 wrote:
>>> Steve Irving <sd...@nospamq.com> wrote in
>>> Look what happened to Waco...


>> Oh shit. He dropped the bike again??
>>

> No...he was talking about the big BBQ the government employees had at that place


> where all the child molester's lived.......
>

Janet Reno was lust jealous cuz Karesh was gettin' more pussy than she was.

--BS205

LarryInEastTn

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"DM" <fi...@nospam.bs221.com> wrote in message
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>
> I'd say that for that situation we're pretty much all amateurs. Tell me
> about the last time you were in a gun battle where you expended more than
> a few hundred rounds from a handgun.
>
> "There I was, sittin' in a bar mindin' my own damn bidness..."
> --
> Fins BS#221 AH#135


You mean you don't have a bug out bag, with several hundred rounds already
loaded. I could hold off a small army before I ever had to start stuffing
rounds into empty mags. It's not unusual to go to the range and burn 3-500
rds at a time, gotta reload the mags afterwards to be ready for the day the
shit hits the fan.
--
Larry
Just because you're paranoid,
doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.


Steve Irving

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I heard that Janet was Chelsea's dad......

Steve Irving

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LarryInEastTn wrote:
> "DM" <fi...@nospam.bs221.com> wrote in message
> news:Op-dnW1b0dzmFvLX...@giganews.com...
>> I'd say that for that situation we're pretty much all amateurs. Tell me
>> about the last time you were in a gun battle where you expended more than
>> a few hundred rounds from a handgun.
>>
>> "There I was, sittin' in a bar mindin' my own damn bidness..."
>> --
>> Fins BS#221 AH#135
>
>
> You mean you don't have a bug out bag, with several hundred rounds already
> loaded. I could hold off a small army before I ever had to start stuffing
> rounds into empty mags. It's not unusual to go to the range and burn 3-500
> rds at a time, gotta reload the mags afterwards to be ready for the day the
> shit hits the fan.

OK......serious question for you, from a gun owner who's not an expert....

How bad is it for magazines to leave them loaded???? I unload my magazines,
don't like leaving the springs compressed.....

Maybe I just should forget it, I did buy a couple 15 round mags....so I could
leave my 10 round mags loaded.....

I've always thought that if someone kicked in the front door (damn near 100%
chance it'll never happen).....I'd be using my 9mm as a club because I wouldn't
be able to get upstairs and get it loaded before "they" got to me (not that I'm
paranoid or anything)......

As long as the gun is locked up and I can get to the key (got little kids in the
house from time to time)......

Snag

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I keep both mags for my P90 loaded at all times . My grandkids aren't
allowed in the room with the guns unless there's an adult with them ... that
door is locked when they're here , and the key is up where they can't reach
it . But then I keep a loaded weapon on my person 'bout 99% of the time
unless I'm asleep . And at least one's within arms reach then ...
Leave 'em loaded , Steve , it won't hurt 'em .
--
Snag
An unloaded weapon
might as well
be a rock .


Steve Irving

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Snag wrote:

>
> I keep both mags for my P90 loaded at all times . My grandkids aren't
> allowed in the room with the guns unless there's an adult with them ... that
> door is locked when they're here , and the key is up where they can't reach
> it . But then I keep a loaded weapon on my person 'bout 99% of the time
> unless I'm asleep . And at least one's within arms reach then ...
> Leave 'em loaded , Steve , it won't hurt 'em .

Works for me......my KP95 oughta do just fine then.

EZ

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On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:45:25 -0700, Steve Irving <sd...@nospamq.com>
wrote:

>As long as the gun is locked up and I can get to the key (got little kids in the
>house from time to time)......

I bought a small gunsafe from GunVault. It sits in my bedroom closet
on a shelf about head-high. It has four buttons on the top, covered by
molded rubber/plastic that your four fingers fit right into. You
program whatever sequence you want, and when you hit the right
sequence, the door flies open and I have my loaded Ruger SP101 .357
magnum in my hand. The whole operation takes about 2 seconds. I keep a
couple of speedloaders in there as well, in the very unlikely event
that I would need more than 5 rounds.

In the same vault is my loaded nine-shot High Standard .22 magnum
revolver. That's for my wife, if she wants to use it, which she
probably wouldn't.

Too bad GunVault is out of business, last time I checked.
--
_____ _____
| ____| |__ / Larry from St. Louis, MO
| _| / / SENS, MAMBM, MISFIT, TOMKAT
| |___ / /_ BS #269 DOF #(I forget)
|_____| /____| 105th Anniversary Edition Ultra

Kicker

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Any danger of compressed springs should only show
up in the last round or two in the form of a jam
or misfeed. From a tactical standpoint that
shouldn't be a problem especially with hi-cap
mags; the armed encounter statistically only lasts
for an exchange of 3 rounds, *total*. You
shouldn't be running your gun to slide lock anyway
with tactical reloads being preferable. That said,
I don't compete with the mags that I use for self
defense.

LarryInEastTn

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"EZ" <EZ.R...@NOSPAM.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>
> I bought a small gunsafe from GunVault. It sits in my bedroom closet
> on a shelf about head-high. It has four buttons on the top, covered by
> molded rubber/plastic that your four fingers fit right into. You
> program whatever sequence you want, and when you hit the right
> sequence, the door flies open and I have my loaded Ruger SP101 .357
> magnum in my hand. The whole operation takes about 2 seconds. I keep a
> couple of speedloaders in there as well, in the very unlikely event
> that I would need more than 5 rounds.
>
> In the same vault is my loaded nine-shot High Standard .22 magnum
> revolver. That's for my wife, if she wants to use it, which she
> probably wouldn't.
>
> Too bad GunVault is out of business, last time I checked.


At least bolted down I'd hope. If not you've just given the thief a nice
box, along with your guns, with only 10K possibilities to try before it
opens.

EZ

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On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 05:45:42 -0400, "LarryInEastTn"
<LarryI...@pizzacheese2.youdontknow> wrote:

>At least bolted down I'd hope.

Yup. It'll take a thief too much time to unscrew everything for it to
be a profitable venture. By then I'd hope some neighborhood watch
person would have noticed. I have lights all over the outside of the
house, and the house is in a quiet area in the suburbs.

My neighbor is similarly-protected, but I don't think he keeps his
guns in a safe. No kids to worry about.

Invisible68

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"LarryInEastTn" <LarryI...@pizzacheese2.youdontknow> wrote in message
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four buttons pressed in right order..... hmmmm I am only thinking 24
combinations...

Invisible68
(kid could figure it out in a couple mins....)

LarryInEastTn

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"Invisible68" <plat...@lcom.net> wrote in message
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>
> four buttons pressed in right order..... hmmmm I am only thinking 24
> combinations...
>
> Invisible68
> (kid could figure it out in a couple mins....)

Ahhh yes. I was ASSuming each button was a 1-10 deal like a combination
lock. Guess I had my head up my ass. Not the first time. Shirley, a PBR
for the mathematically inclined gentleman.

DM

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LarryInEastTn wrote:
> "Invisible68" <plat...@lcom.net> wrote in message
> news:h4sooo$a64$1...@news.netins.net...
>> four buttons pressed in right order..... hmmmm I am only thinking 24
>> combinations...
>>
>> Invisible68
>> (kid could figure it out in a couple mins....)
>
> Ahhh yes. I was ASSuming each button was a 1-10 deal like a combination
> lock. Guess I had my head up my ass. Not the first time. Shirley, a PBR
> for the mathematically inclined gentleman.

1-9. I owed you.

DM

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LarryInEastTn wrote:
> "Invisible68" <plat...@lcom.net> wrote in message
> news:h4sooo$a64$1...@news.netins.net...
>> four buttons pressed in right order..... hmmmm I am only thinking 24
>> combinations...
>>
>> Invisible68
>> (kid could figure it out in a couple mins....)
>
> Ahhh yes. I was ASSuming each button was a 1-10 deal like a combination
> lock. Guess I had my head up my ass. Not the first time. Shirley, a PBR
> for the mathematically inclined gentleman.

0-9. I owed me also.

DM

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LarryInEastTn wrote:
> "Invisible68" <plat...@lcom.net> wrote in message
> news:h4sooo$a64$1...@news.netins.net...
>> four buttons pressed in right order..... hmmmm I am only thinking 24
>> combinations...
>>
>> Invisible68
>> (kid could figure it out in a couple mins....)
>
> Ahhh yes. I was ASSuming each button was a 1-10 deal like a combination
> lock. Guess I had my head up my ass. Not the first time. Shirley, a PBR
> for the mathematically inclined gentleman.

Let's try this again. 0-9.

LarryInEastTn

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"DM" <fi...@nospam.bs221.com> wrote in message
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<snerk> See you in WA? I'll buy the PBR.

kickstart

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On Jul 30, 7:23 pm, "LarryInEastTn"
<LarryInEas...@pizzacheese2.youdontknow> wrote:
> "DM" <f...@nospam.bs221.com> wrote in message
>
> news:BZidnSL_Mcryt-_X...@giganews.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > LarryInEastTn wrote:
> >> "Invisible68" <plath...@lcom.net> wrote in message

> >>news:h4sooo$a64$1...@news.netins.net...
> >>> four buttons pressed in right order..... hmmmm I am only thinking 24
> >>> combinations...
>
> >>> Invisible68
> >>> (kid could figure it out in a couple mins....)
>
> >> Ahhh yes.  I was ASSuming each  button was a 1-10 deal like a combination
> >> lock.  Guess I had my head up my ass.  Not the first time.  Shirley, a
> >> PBR for the mathematically inclined gentleman.
>
> > 0-9. I owed me also.
> > --
> > Fins BS#221 AH#135
>
> <snerk> See you in WA?  I'll buy the PBR.
> --
> Larry
> SENS, DOF# 29, SLOB# 14, BS# 249
> 88 FLSTC, 05 XL883L, 06 FLHTC- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

5040 Possible combinations.
I paid attention that day

Invisible68

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"DM" <fi...@nospam.bs221.com> wrote in message
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> LarryInEastTn wrote:
>> "Invisible68" <plat...@lcom.net> wrote in message
>> news:h4sooo$a64$1...@news.netins.net...
>>> four buttons pressed in right order..... hmmmm I am only thinking 24
>>> combinations...
>>>
>>> Invisible68
>>> (kid could figure it out in a couple mins....)
>>
>> Ahhh yes. I was ASSuming each button was a 1-10 deal like a combination
>> lock. Guess I had my head up my ass. Not the first time. Shirley, a
>> PBR for the mathematically inclined gentleman.
>
> Let's try this again. 0-9.
>
don't put Larry in charge of dailing 911 then..... he'll be lost trying to
find the elevan button on the phone...

Invisible68
(having a protein drink indtead of PBR)

Invisible68

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>"kickstart" <kickst...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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But not today.....
24 combinations.....

Invisible68

AH#104

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LarryInEastTn sed:
>See you in WA?

You coming to Snarl's?
Got a route plann^^ed

ASSHOLE#104 Len

Steve Irving

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AH#104 wrote:
> Steve Irv sed:

>> Still can't figure out why people are freaking out and filling their
>> "bunkers" with tens of thousands of rounds......
>
> I was just in Cabela's in Scarborough, Maine today.
> Plenty of ammo of all kinds, and regularly priced.
>
> ASSHOLE#104 Len

Was over at Costco this afternoon picking up dog food, as I was leaving I looked
across the parking lot at Sportsman's Warehouse and thought "What the hell...".

They had plenty of pistol ammo in a variety of calibers, but were rationing it.
Two boxes per customer, per day.......

I bought 2 boxes for $10.98 each......kid at check out rang me up, and then I
told him he might just want to charge me for the second box of ammo too.

Don't know how 2 boxes of ammo at $10.98 each, and 2 pairs of glove liners at
$3.99 each could come to $20.54.

<shrug>

LarryInEastTn

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"AH#104" <AH...@yourhat.att.net> wrote in message
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>
> You coming to Snarl's?
> Got a route plann^^ed
>
> ASSHOLE#104 Len

I'll be there if I can get rid of this sinus infection. Looks like it will
be via EKIII, & then following either TL or Kurt. Right now the only thing
I'm riding is the couch. Why do I always get sick right before vacation?

LarryInEastTn

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"Invisible68" <plat...@lcom.net> wrote in message
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>
> don't put Larry in charge of dailing 911 then..... he'll be lost trying to
> find the elevan button on the phone...
>
> Invisible68

I don't dial 911. I just shoot, & let the neighbors do the dialing.

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Tazfxrp

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On Aug 2, 8:48 am, nos...@home.com wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Aug 2009 07:42:14 -0400, "LarryInEastTn"
>
> <LarryInEas...@pizzacheese2.youdontknow> wrote:
>
> >"Invisible68" <plath...@lcom.net> wrote in message

> >news:h4tasg$ku3$1...@news.netins.net...
>
> >> don't put Larry in charge of dailing 911 then..... he'll be lost trying to
> >> find the elevan button on the phone...
>
> >> Invisible68
>
> >I don't dial 911.  I just shoot, & let the neighbors do the dialing.
>
> hell where I live, I can get a good nap in while waiting for the cops
> to show up, IF they can find the place!
>
> --

I wouldn't count on them finding you (not always a bad thing), hell
UPS can't.

Taz

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TL Mitchell

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"LarryInEastTn" <LarryI...@pizzacheese2.youdontknow> wrote

> Why do I always get sick right before vacation?

Believe me, it beats taking the hospital tour *while* you're on a trip!

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sn...@trippin.com

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Pneumonia for MITM, busted shoulder at Red's (and Amanda's), busted
thumb for SNIFF, yeah, I know this song too. That said, you looked
like shit in CO.

Snarl

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TL Mitchell

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<sn...@trippin.com> wrote

> Pneumonia for MITM, busted shoulder at Red's (and Amanda's), busted
> thumb for SNIFF, yeah, I know this song too. That said, you looked
> like shit in CO.

Like that's unusual? Felt like shit... the onset seemed to correlate to
someone handing me an ice-cold can of swill <sfsf.>

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sn...@trippin.com

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Hey, I was savin' th' good stuff for th' hummingbirds.

Snarl

LarryInEastTn

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"TL Mitchell" <tlmitc...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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I don't doubt that. I might be skipping EKIII if this doesn't clear up in
the next day or two. A few more days on the couch couldn't hurt, & I'm sure
riding out in the rain won't help.
--
Larry
Over 7" of rain in July &
no days over 90. Fuck Al Gore.


Snag

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LarryInEastTn wrote:

> --
> Larry
> Over 7" of rain in July &
> no days over 90. Fuck Al Gore.


Isn't he from East Tennessee too ?

<d-n-r while also giggling like a little girl>
--
Snag
"90 FLHTCU "Strider"
'39 WLDD "PopCycle"
BS 132/SENS/DOF


LarryInEastTn

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"Snag" <snag...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> LarryInEastTn wrote:
>> Over 7" of rain in July &
>> no days over 90. Fuck Al Gore.
>
> Isn't he from East Tennessee too ?
> <d-n-r while also giggling like a little girl>
> --
> Snag
> "90 FLHTCU "Strider"

Nope, Middle TN. Which is kinda like the bastard child of the state. Too
bad he isn't from Memphis. He could've gotten caught up with the Ford
family, & been in jail instead of spewing his bullshit theories all over the
place.
--
Larry
Doesn't believe in global warming
or 10K/month utility bills.


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Be...@anywhere.invalid

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<<<<< YIKES >>>>> No 0-Dark-Thirty boogie for Kenosha???? Oh, my.
Let me know, so I'll know if I'm camping and sauntering instead
of boogying to Korporate Spy's. Now I gotta look up his addy
and program my grease-pencil-on-a-windshield gps. /;^)

Hope you are feeling better in the next coupla days.
--
(^oo^) AH#120
(_0_)
BEAR

TL Mitchell

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<Be...@anywhere.invalid> wrote

> Let me know, so I'll know if I'm camping and sauntering instead
> of boogying to Korporate Spy's. Now I gotta look up his addy
> and program my grease-pencil-on-a-windshield gps. /;^)

Easy to find, follow the trail of empty Heinies, dooooood.

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LarryInEastTn

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<nos...@home.com> wrote in message
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>
> Hey Larry, I need to talk to you for a moment soon, got a few minutes?
>
> Tom

Cell # is in the SENS contact list. On from 0600 to about 1700 best before
1400, service isn't good at the house.

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LarryInEastTn

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<Be...@anywhere.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> <<<<< YIKES >>>>> No 0-Dark-Thirty boogie for Kenosha???? Oh, my.
> Let me know, so I'll know if I'm camping and sauntering instead
> of boogying to Korporate Spy's. Now I gotta look up his addy
> and program my grease-pencil-on-a-windshield gps. /;^)
>
> Hope you are feeling better in the next coupla days.
> --
> AH#120

You've got mail.

Be...@anywhere.invalid

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Got it, and replied... you got mail.
Damn! I gotta check but I think I just replied to you and not the others.
I'll fix that.

TL (at work)

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<Be...@anywhere.invalid> wrote

> Got it, and replied... you got mail.
> Damn! I gotta check but I think I just replied to you and not the others.
> I'll fix that.

What time zone are *you* in? your post indicates it was sent 40 minutes from
now....

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Be...@anywhere.invalid

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And the message (this one by you) was time stamped as 9:50, It's 10:54.
WTFDIK? << shrug >>

SKooter Bum

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Damn, that's what I call a fast internet connection.
BS#281


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