Some of these guys are on their third or fourth tour and now it's 15
months instead of 12?
WTF?
This, after cutting VA Benefits and the rat shit at Walter Reed.
If I ever hear a GOP politician say "Support the Troops by staying the
course " I'm just gonna punch him in the face and get my one way
ticket to Gitmo.
turd fondlers
mb
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re http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/11/AR200...
> Some of these guys are on their
> third or fourth tour and now it's 15
> months instead of 12?
Just heard that on NPR.
> WTF?
And the link you provide notes that they're talking about 18 months
instead of 15. Can two years be far behind?
> This, after cutting VA Benefits and
> the rat shit at Walter Reed.
And can't my tax dollar go towards providing a free Harley to each
service member in Iraq and Afghanistan? I might feel better about the
amount of $ going down the toilet.
> If I ever hear a GOP politician say
> "Support the Troops by staying the
> course "
"Support the Troops by paying for an Iron Horse!" has a better ring to
it, imo.
> I'm just gonna punch him in the face
Give 'em one for me? I only weigh 170 and have thin wrists. Otoh,
there's always blunt objects.
[...]
--
Curt
A round of grog for all
Well it is bullshit! my son who has 9 years in the Army spent 1.5 years in
Iraqi 1.2 year in Afghanistan and 2 years in Kosovo fighting. Almost 1/2 of
his entire career has been spent at war what the FUCK is up with that. I do
not care how or why I just want the insanity to stop. The powers to be just
don't get it and the upper echelon military officers are just mouth peaces
they all should get a set like Patton had.
Coasty
http://www.eisenhower.archives.gov/farewell.htm
--
Rand McNally BS#263
Off the wall, Out the door, Down the road....
Some of the mothers up here are sending their sons toilet paper fer
Christ sake. Can't even supply the guys we got with freaking toilet
paper and King George wants to send in MORE troops? WTF???
Ken #70
--
JMark
> turd fondlers
Turd fondlers? TURD FONDLERS????
--
StT
I think I just pissed myself laughing...
> Patton's boss saw it coming.
>
> http://www.eisenhower.archives.gov/farewell.htm
>
Yep. And we didn't heed his words at all. Dumb us.
--
StT
last Republican president who was worth a shit...
In a 1920 article in the Baltimore Evening Sun, HL Mencken wrote about
the difficulties of good men reaching national office:
"The larger the mob, the harder the test. In small areas, before
small electorates, a first-rate man occasionally fights his way
through, carrying even the mob with him by force of his personality.
But when the field is nationwide, and the fight must be waged chiefly
at second and third hand, and the force of personality cannot so
readily make itself felt, then all the odds are on the man who is,
intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre — the man who can most
easily adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum.
The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As
democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely,
the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some
great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their
heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a
downright moron. "
Only took 80 years...
The chief moron is surrounded by a horde of morons, all in faithbased
lockstep. Tell the truth. Doesn't Cheney look like a cross between
Darth Vader, and one of the flying monkeys in the Wizard Of Oz? If
you looked up "face of evil" in a dictionary with pictures, he's
probably what you'd see staring back at you.
If any of the morons in the horde show a glimmer of intelligence, an
iota of independent thought, they are asked to resign, or are fired.
Just ask Colin Powell. You might remember him, the only person in
Bush's cabinet with significant combat experience, and more
importantly, experience of having been COS during the first Iraq war.
Nothing is more divisive than the logically fallacious "with us, or
against us" choice that the chief moron is fond of regurgitating.
There is always the "loyal opposition". The "C" student doesn't
fathom.
But, enough of that. It is instructive to look at the second world
war, and the time duration of having men in combat, back then. The
29th Div, in the ETO, was in combat for 242 days. The 34th Div was in
the line of fire for 500 days. They landed in North Africa, in 1942,
and also got two Nisei units, later in 1944.
The 32nd Div, in the Pacific, was in combat for 654 days. This is the
longest combat service of any American division.
These are National Guard divisions, because I knew where to look for
the numbers, without a lot of research.
Regarding the VA hospital cuts:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/SWE412A.html
I can't see the logic in following a course of action which creates
more people in need of VA hospitals, the wounded and maimed, and
then, cutting the funding for these same. If anything, the funding
should have been increased significantly. One of the few charities
that I give to, is DAV.
--
the heekster, BS#4, preposterous
Does conjure up a mental image. Hell of it is it fits the situation.
--
Wayne
AH52
The road goes on forever
I'm a retired Air Force NCO and ya know this guy Bush is the Vet, and GI's
worst enemy.
Read up on his record his admin has screwed both groups regularly but speaks
of supporting the troops.
I just know after he is gone and the records are opened to historians this
guy is gonna be dirty.
How do you tell when a politician is lying??? His lips are moving. I'm 4
term limits...1st term in office 2nd term in jail for all the stuff they did
that we didn't find out about.
For a second there I thought I was in for a good time, then I saw the "r"s.
--
Tud
SENS BS#111 LFS#32 FLF MISFIT Vermort AH#115
http://ah115.com
Sisyphus rides a Triumph
Hell, the Navy is urging me to return to active service. Things must be
getting real desperate.(I told them it wouldn't happen voluntarily.)
--
DaveN BS#163 SENS
"You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline - it
helps if you have some kind of football team, or some nuclear weapons,
but at the very least you need a beer."
Frank Zappa
> I just know after he is gone and the records are opened to historians this
> guy is gonna be dirty.
After?
Phil...the "Haved you not been paying attention?" Asshole(tm)...
--
AH#61 Wolf#14 BS#89 bus#1 CCB#1 SENS KOTC#4 ph...@total.net
http://ah61.com EKIII rides with me. http://eddiekieger.com
"I know some day, the righteous will rejoice and sing." - Warrior King
They ain't getting me:)
--
Tony D AH# 129
Philly Hoodlumゥ#37
But on another note, I did get promoted at work. Harley-related: I rode
to work today.
Drinks all around! Put 'em on the house while Roach is making sandwiches.
--
Fins BS#221 FD2 KOTC#8 EKIII rides with me
'05 FLHTCUI "Chief"
'02 FLSTCI
'38 UL "Ninong"
"If at first you don't succeed, find out if the loser gets anything."
But on another note, I did get promoted at work. Harley-related: I rode
> to work today.
Uh, I rode to school today..
> Drinks all around! Put 'em on the house while Roach is making sandwiches.
I'll get the next round, honest.
> Uh, I rode to school today..
How's school going?
<teacher>
I certainly hope you're behaving and taking your studies seriously.
</teacher>
[...]
"Beertender!"
--
Curt
--
DaveN BS#163 SENS
'02 FLHT "the short bus"
>How do you tell when a politician is lying??? His lips are moving. I'm 4
>term limits...1st term in office 2nd term in jail for all the stuff they did
>that we didn't find out about.
Agreed 100%!
Too funny Tom,
mb
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> > How's school going?
>
> Presidents List last three terms
> and hoping to do so again (I just
> started my 4th term
Excellent news.
> I can't fuck off too much in here
> or I "forget" to study.
Well, none of that! Best wishes for Presidents List in your 4th term.
> How you doin up there in PA Curt?
Waiting for some spring weather, but it doesn't look like that's
happening this weekend.
http://news.google.com/news?q=snow%20storm
--
Curt
Anyone who still or ever did believe in this Bushshit called Protecting
Amerika from Iraqi terrorism is just an asshole.
Its all about money, oil and no bid contracts. Cheneys' Haliburton has been
written up and reprimanded for all types of shoddiness, over charged the
government by millions, even serving tainted food to the troops yet they
still maintain that no bid contract.
> Regarding the VA hospital cuts:
>
> http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/SWE412A.html
>
> I can't see the logic in following a course of action which creates
> more people in need of VA hospitals, the wounded and maimed, and
> then, cutting the funding for these same. If anything, the funding
> should have been increased significantly.
My stepson is an MP in the Army. He's coming home tomorrow for a 14 day
leave from Afghanistan. I'm going to give him a hug and keep my chin up. I
didn't want him going in, and I gave him all the "right" reasons not to
enlist, but he had his heart set on being in the military, and going over
there to prevent trouble here. After several months, I caved, and gave him
my blessing. I can't argue with the idealism of youth. I just hope it
doesn't make him bitter if he's injured mentally or physically, and finds
that he's dependent on an insufficient and ridiculous support system.
> One of the few charities
> that I give to, is DAV.
Thank you. We also give what we can, when we can.
Fredrick T. "Moose" Heyliger was my stepfather
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossroads_(Band_of_Brothers)
Looking back on his life with us, Fred was kind of bitter about the whole
experience of war, and bitched openly about the treatment of Viet Nam vets.
We've lived outside the gates of Fort Devens, in the surrounding towns most
of my life. I'm young enough to have had friends whose older brothers were
lost or injured in VN. Fred would take us over to Cutler Army Hospital to
vist the vets. He wanted us to know. To see. To think long and hard about
war. I never really understood why he was so passionate about that. Until
later.
Man, just thinking about this shit.... I miss him <sniff>. He never got to
see the house I built on the land he and my mother bought here in Shirley. I
know he'd have taken pride in that, and would have loved to sit out back
looking over the old horse pasture while smoking a butt from his wheelchair,
which he became bound to in his last years.
My mom sold an acre to the town for a water tower before his passing. The
town named it after him, "Heyliger Tower". I take a walk up there from time
to time (just through the woods some 800 feet or so), and try to remember
the good in him, try to imagine his inner sadness, and pay my respects in
silence to all of the men of the 101st Airborne, 506th, Easy Company, and to
all who are serving, wherever that might be right now.
I had no idea what Fred had done in WWII until after he had passed. I didn't
even know that he was a Captain because he was chosen to replace Dick
Winters as CO of Easy Company for a time. I'm not a huge fan of the
movie/acting industry, but my hat's off to Stephen Ambrose for writing their
story, and Tom Hanks and Stephen Spielberg for bringing the story into a
medium so readily accessible to folks of all ages.
The men of Easy Company, The Screaming Eagles, of WWII should NEVER be
forgotten. Nor should any such men who sacrifice life and limb in service to
their country regardless of the "correctness" of any action to which they
are duty bound.
If wounded in action, my "government" doesn't support my stepson, then fuck
them, I'll do it myself until I'm dead, and I'll be pissed about it without
Stuart ever feeling he's a burden.
I owe it to those who came before him, so that I personally never had to
take up arms.
--
Steve Paul
'93 FXRSC- Stage II Evo 80
gmail: smarshallpaul
You dumbass:)
Yepper,
My wife's family is in Sayre, we enjoy watching the weather channel then
calling everyone up and bitch about the sunburn:)
I think the trick is to find a generation that has the balls to finish a
job so the next generation doesn't have to pick it up. We're not there yet.
dp
How you going to finish it dp? It's not about balls, it's about
intelligent decisions. We're not there yet.
--
JMark
If by "finish", you mean "foot the bill", then I agree.
The "problem" is the fuckers who profit from the safety brought about by a
soldier's sacrifice, while at the same time increasing and/or maintaining
personal wealth on the backs of the soldier's children.
Down with suits. Power to the people.
Now I'm in bad mood. Shirley... a drink, please.
-SP
>> I think the trick is to find a generation that has the balls to finish
>> a job so the next generation doesn't have to pick it up. We're not
>> there yet.
>
> How you going to finish it dp? It's not about balls, it's about
> intelligent decisions. We're not there yet.
Ooh! Ooh! I know! I know!
Kill all the Muslims (since you can't tell the 'good' ones from the
'bad' ones and they keep switching sides -- just look at whether the
Shiites or the Sunnis are killing more of our good Christian troops and
who Iran is supporting), burn all the Korans, purge the history books
of any mention of Islam, tear down the mosques, seal the oil under a
protective layer of radioactive glass for the benefit of our preborn
children (think how pretty Saudi Arabia will look under a glowing layer
of glass), confiscate all the pretty toys (yachts, Ferraris, Bugattis,
etc) of the rich Arab princes and give them to the plastic-haired
righteous, and declare the final Crusade over.
All, of course, in the name of God.
--
StT
one or another of them, at least...
If it wasn't so real, it'd be funny.
In Southern New Jersey, (Burlington County, I think),,, there is a push to
take all mention of the Holocaust out of the schools history books because
it offends the Muslims. (paraphrasing here folks)... Not that the school
system is denying the Holocaust, they're just not going to teach anything
about it.
ASSHOLE#104 Len
Spunky, you get a gold star and will be first in line for the lunchroom
all week.
--
JMark
I must be missing something obvious here, but what the heck
does the Holocaust have to do with Islam? Why would muslims get
offended at its teaching?
Phil...the confused Asshole(tm)...
Because they think that all Jews are Evil, and simply made the whole
thing up.
Yay! The study group will be meeting over by the pile of hot cross buns
and chocolate bunny ears.
--
StT
mythology ought to at least be tasty...
At work I got a (cordial) complaint about the music I was listening to in
the lab from a nice Chinese woman that I've known for more than 10 years. I
was raised on Rock and Roll and I just couldn't help myself.... I started
steaming in my mind later, "If you don't like Rock and Roll, a huge part of
American culture, then get the fuck out.."
As Carlos Mencia put it in one of his comedy routines, "That's America
Bitch!"
<sfsf>
I'm not losing my backbone, it's being ripped out by the powers that be.
-SP
You're not in your house, you're at work. A lot of places don't even allow
music at work...which is why I keep mine low enough not to attract
attention. BTW, your assertion that if you don't like Rock and Roll then
you should get out is funny, I assume you meant it to be.
--
Tud
SENS BS#111 LFS#32 FLF MISFIT Vermort AH#115
http://ah115.com
Sisyphus rides a Triumph
Phil axed:
> I must be missing something obvious here,
>but what the heck does the Holocaust have
>to do with Islam? Why would muslims get
>offended at its teaching?
I don't know... I haven't had a chance to really delve into this yet. I
just heard it on NPR the other day, and thought to myself... WTF? I think
the crux is Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and his views of it...and I meant to say
"some Muslims" as opposed to "the Muslims". <shrug>
ASSHOLE#104 Len
>>>At work I got a (cordial) complaint about the music I was listening
>>>to in the lab from a nice Chinese woman that I've known for more than
>>>10 years.
>>You're not in your house, you're at work. A lot of places don't even allow
>>music at work..
>
>
> But if they do, then you should be able to play what you like, not
> what someone else does not
Perhaps he was playing:
http://www.mwscomp.com/sounds/mp3/chinese.mp3 to loud? :)
> than again common courtesy on both parties is long gone these days
I think that pretty much sums it up.
> Perhaps he was playing:
> http://www.mwscomp.com/sounds/mp3/chinese.mp3 to loud? :)
I was thinking the one below, but the one you posted might do the trick as
well.
http://www.gourmetshuttle.com/ComboNo5.htm
Ok, that was in the UK.
New Jersey had the "terrorist drill"... what fuckin' next.
========================================
"Last month, New Jersey's Burlington Township High School held its own mock
terrorism drill. "You perform as you practice," Superintendent Chris Manno
told the Burlington County Times. "We need to practice under conditions as
real as possible in order to evaluate our procedures and plans so that
they're as effective as possible."
But the "real as possible" conditions included no bomb-vest-donning
jihadists shouting "Allahu Akbar." No red bandanna-wearing martyrs with
visions of 72 virgins dancing in their evil heads. No America-hating
plotters enraged by the existence of Israel or driven to establish a
worldwide caliphate. Nope. According to the paper, two local police
detectives took on the role of hostage-taking Christian gunmen.
"Investigators described them as members of a right-wing fundamentalist
group called the 'New Crusaders' who don't believe in separation of church
and state. The mock gunmen went to the school seeking justice because the
daughter of one had been expelled for praying before class." Upset Christian
students reported on the drill to their parents.
=====================================
About as useless as getting under your desk in an "A-Bomb' attack.
ASSHOLE#104 Len
> regarding not teaching about the Holocaust in school...
>
>>I just heard it on NPR the other day, and thought to myself... WTF?
> Ok, that was in the UK.
> New Jersey had the "terrorist drill"... what fuckin' next.
Easily cornfused.
The UK has "JERSEY".. while we have the ""NEW", and not so improved
version!"
>
> ========================================
> "Last month, New Jersey's Burlington Township High School held its own mock
> terrorism drill.
>
> About as useless as getting under your desk in an "A-Bomb' attack.
Just SITTING in those things normaly is tough enough!
I agree. I fucking HATE rap and hip-hop, which are distinctly
American.....should I leave, too?
--
Laura BOTY '07...in a VERY BITCHY mood...
'05 FLSTC "Miss Scarlett"
Bitch #29/SLOB #10/BS #278
www.geocities.com/tatt00edgoddess/
> Tud wrote:
>
>>You're not in your house, you're at work.
>
> I agree. I fucking HATE rap and hip-hop, which are distinctly
> American.....should I leave, too?
Not at all.
You have the option NOT to appreciate or like that crap! :)
Regards,
Pan-my house is my place of work, so bite me-head
C'mon, Pan, leave the part you knew I was responding to. lol
I'm glad I work alone, 'cause I can listen to whatever I want....which
is usually nothing. Silence is a rare thing, and I enjoy it when it's
available.
--
Laura BOTY '07
> Arif Mardin wrote:
>
>>Tattooed Goddess wrote:
>>>Tud wrote:
>>>>You're not in your house, you're at work.
>>>I agree. I fucking HATE rap and hip-hop, which are distinctly
>>>American.....should I leave, too?
>>Not at all.
>> You have the option NOT to appreciate or like that crap! :)
>>Regards,
>>Pan-my house is my place of work, so bite me-head
> C'mon, Pan, leave the part you knew I was responding to. lol
If I did that, I wouldn't be "funny ol' me", that tends to annoy and
amuse, all at the same time!
> I'm glad I work alone, 'cause I can listen to whatever I want....which
> is usually nothing. Silence is a rare thing, and I enjoy it when it's
> available.
Silence sucks muck... IMHO.
I prefer my wife yelling at me VS "The Silent Treatment!"
> I'm glad I work alone, 'cause I can listen to whatever I want....which
> is usually nothing. Silence is a rare thing, and I enjoy it when it's
> available.
I have a set of real nice noise-cancelling headphones. I'm a cube-dweller,
so radios playing through speakers are a no-no. Most of the time it's pretty
quiet, so I don't put them on. But they sure come in handy when there's a
pow-wow goin' on in the next cube over!
--
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| _| / / SENS, MAMBM, MISFIT, TOMKAT
| |___ / /_ BS#269 DOF#(I forget) 05FXDL
|_____| /____| 2005 Harley-Davidson LowRider