Lort, bring fire unto my combustion chamber!
Johan Rossi
I clocked out Friday, ready for a couple of days off. Flipped the
switch, thumbed the starter. The engine turned over fine, sputtered a
bit, then just kept turning over. I waited a minute tried again, same
result, except this time there was an impressive bang that echoed
throughout the industrial park, followed by a wisp of smoke from the air
cleaner. A couple times I would here a blubba blubba sound from the
exhaust after I released my thumb from the starter. This scenario was
repeated a couple more times when I decided that it wasn't going to fire.
This is the first time in 85000 miles I have had any problems with this
bike, a 2002 fuel injected Softail Deuce.
It was cool, stayed about 38 degrees all day. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot it
shouldn't be that cold here. For some reason I am convinced this had
something to do with it, though I have no facts to base this assumption on.
Now came all the parking lot mechanics with advice, and a few stories
from folks who "wished they hadn't sold their bikes" or "man I wish I
had a bike". This was all very nice, but not helpful. A beer would have
been helpful.
My new friends and neighbors have a couple bikes, and all the necessary
straps, vehicles and trailers needed to haul a bike, plus plenty of
beer. So I gave them a call, and they were eager to help, as I figured
they would be.
I endured a few more stories while I waited.
Paul arrived in about twenty minutes with what looked to me like a very
skinny board. Despite my reservations, we maneuvered the bike into the
back of his truck and strapped it down. By this time it was dark and
cold, so Paul gave me an ice cold beer, which I drank appreciatively.
Shortly we arrived back in the neighborhood and unloaded the bike in his
yard. There's a nice ditch that we were able to back the truck into and
unload the bike at only a slight incline. I pushed it into his driveway,
went inside and proceeded to drink the beer I gave him.
After we put a dent in the beer supply, we pushed my bike down the
street and into my garage, where it sits now, plugged into my battery
tender.
A round of drinks for those who stuck with this, and another for any
advice on where to start.
--
John - start ha ha
AH#104
>The engine turned over fine, sputtered a
> bit, then just kept turning over.
> A round of drinks for those who stuck with this,
>and another for any advice on where to start.
Start at the dealer.
Buy the new RG you've been lusting after.
It will come with a new battery.
Glad I could help.
ASSHOLE#104 Len
Johan Rossi
> Johan Rossi sed:
>> The engine turned over fine, sputtered a bit, then just kept turning
>> over.
> <snip>
>> A round of drinks for those who stuck with this, and another for any
>> advice on where to start.
>> John - start ha ha
>
> Start at the dealer.
> Buy the new RG you've been lusting after.
> It will come with a new battery.
Yes, this may be the answer. Dammit though I need to wait a few more
months. I'm going to go stare at it for awhile, as soon as it warms up
out there.
> Glad I could help.
:-)
> ASSHOLE#104 Len
LarryInEastTn
news:hg094k$ena$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> A round of drinks for those who stuck with this, and another for any
> advice on where to start.
> --
> John - start ha ha
Crank position sensor? Just a guess.
--
Larry AH#136
Owner, rmh VB&G
Johan Rossi
> "Johan Rossi" <fyyf...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:hg094k$ena$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> A round of drinks for those who stuck with this, and another for any
>> advice on where to start.
>> --
>> John - start ha ha
>
> Crank position sensor? Just a guess.
Even though it cranked, I think the battery is suspect.
--
John
Scott
"Johan Rossi" <fyyf...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:hg094k$ena$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> I clocked out Friday, ready for a couple of days off. Flipped the switch,
> thumbed the starter. The engine turned over fine, sputtered a bit, then
> just kept turning over. I waited a minute tried again, same result, except
> this time there was an impressive bang that echoed throughout the
> industrial park, followed by a wisp of smoke from the air cleaner. A
> couple times I would here a blubba blubba sound from the exhaust after I
> released my thumb from the starter. This scenario was repeated a couple
> more times when I decided that it wasn't going to fire.
> This is the first time in 85000 miles I have had any problems with this
> bike, a 2002 fuel injected Softail Deuce.
85000 miles and no problems?
The Lort has already helped you. It's up to a mechanic now.
Johan Rossi
Not hard to do with a little PM.
> The Lort has already helped you. It's up to a mechanic now.
Glory!
Hopefully it wont come to that. I'm buying a new ba-tray first. I just
tried it after being on the ba-tray tender all night, and it fired right up.
--
John
Johan Rossi
> On 12/12/2009 9:49 AM, Johan Rossi wrote:
>> Scott wrote:
<whack>
>>> 85000 miles and no problems?
>>
>> Not hard to do with a little PM.
>>
>>> The Lort has already helped you. It's up to a mechanic now.
>>
>> Glory!
>> Hopefully it wont come to that. I'm buying a new ba-tray first. I just
>> tried it after being on the ba-tray tender all night, and it fired right
>> up.
>
4 ish years. It's on a ba-tray tender when the bike is parked in the
garage. I think sitting in the cold all day drained a ba-tray that was
just starting to go south. Since it's on the tender, I don't notice it
when I leave.
The odd thing was that it did crank quite a few times. <shrug>
I'm getting a ba-tray anyway and going from there. There were two
historic trouble codes. #23 and #41. I'm going to attribute those to the
excess cranking and backfiring.
> Living down here in the desert, I only give mine about 2 years....heat
> is BAD for ba-trays.........
Softail ba-trays are wrapped by a oil tank, shirley doesn't help.
> I stopped in Virginia for a new ba-tray, only because I thought I was
> seeing lower than normal voltage on it when I turned the ignition switch
> to the "on" position. Seemed to be charging OK though (14.5VDC or so).
>
> Old ba-tray would have probably made the trip OK, but if I'd NOT changed
> it....I'd probably STILL be sitting along side US-50 in Nevada someplace.
Better safe than sorry!
--
John
Johan Rossi
> On 12/12/2009 10:24 AM, Johan Rossi wrote:
>
>>>
>>> How old's the ba-tray??????
>>
>> 4 ish years. It's on a ba-tray tender when the bike is parked in the
>> garage.
>
> working for a living. Nowadays though I try to keep it plugged in......
I plug it in even when riding daily, hoping that it will prolong the
life of the ba-tray. Not sure if it does. <shrug>
--
John
Mike
> Bikes are funner than cars even when they wont start.
>
cut the crap
> A round of drinks for those who stuck with this, and another for any
> advice on where to start.
> --
> John - start ha ha
John, listen to Len. Buy a new battery and wrap a new RoadGlide
around it. Hell they may even throw a new battery in....
Mike
caspr
Johan Rossi
> On Dec 12, 9:25 am, Johan Rossi <fyyff...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Bikes are funner than cars even when they wont start.
>>
>
> cut the crap
Crap!? It took me five minutes to write that! <g>
>
>> A round of drinks for those who stuck with this, and another for any
>> advice on where to start.
>> --
>> John - start ha ha
>
> John, listen to Len. Buy a new battery and wrap a new RoadGlide
> around it. Hell they may even throw a new battery in....
I was thinking of a used cop bike with anti-lock brakes. But i'd settle
for a new Road Glide. <g>
> Mike
> caspr
Johan Rossi
Just checked my records. 1st ba-tray lasted three years, I only used the
tender over the wintertime.
Ba-tray #2, same part number lasted slightly over four years. Used
tender all the time.
--
John
sn...@trippin.com
Jinks
wrote:
>LarryInEastTn wrote:
What did the tach do when you were crankin'?
Jinks ('86FXRS, '07FLTR)
#64
Remember, "No good deed goes unpunished"
Johan Rossi
> On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:31:48 -0500, Johan Rossi <fyyf...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> LarryInEastTn wrote:
>>> "Johan Rossi" <fyyf...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:hg094k$ena$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> A round of drinks for those who stuck with this, and another for any
>>>> advice on where to start.
>>>> --
>>>> John - start ha ha
>>> Crank position sensor? Just a guess.
>> Even though it cranked, I think the battery is suspect.
>
> What did the tach do when you were crankin'?
I don't have one. You could get me one for Christmas, in case you were
looking for ideas. <g>
Johan Rossi
Yes I do. My knuck fund still exists, but has been depleted quite a bit
the last couple years.
You must have shut everything down for a couple weeks. I tried to email
you and it bounced. It was nothing important and non knuck related.
> Snarl
>
Johan Rossi
>
>
> The battery is donbe. It had enough juice to crank a few
> times, but not enough to also produce spark.
It turned over a bunch, that's why I figured it wasn't the ba-tray at
first. In fact, I've never had a vehicle turn over so many times with a
"bad" ba-tray.
--
John
sn...@trippin.com
wrote:
>sn...@trippin.com wrote:
>> On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:38:30 -0500, Johan Rossi <fyyf...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Mike wrote:
>>>> On Dec 12, 9:25 am, Johan Rossi <fyyff...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> Bikes are funner than cars even when they wont start.
>>>>>
>>>> cut the crap
>>> Crap!? It took me five minutes to write that! <g>
>>>
>>>>> A round of drinks for those who stuck with this, and another for any
>>>>> advice on where to start.
>>>>> --
>>>>> John - start ha ha
>>>> John, listen to Len. Buy a new battery and wrap a new RoadGlide
>>>> around it. Hell they may even throw a new battery in....
>>> I was thinking of a used cop bike with anti-lock brakes. But i'd settle
>>> for a new Road Glide. <g>
>>
>> You need a Knuck.
>
>Yes I do. My knuck fund still exists, but has been depleted quite a bit
>the last couple years.
Depleting a Knuck fund is like selling your last bullet. Don't do
that, unless you can throw th' gun with deadly accuracy <g>.
>You must have shut everything down for a couple weeks. I tried to email
>you and it bounced. It was nothing important and non knuck related.
Yer using th' wrong addy. Try this one next time:
BS 37 at snarls hog den dot com
Snarl... remove th' spaces and change th' obvious to reply
LarryInEastTn
>
> It turned over a bunch, that's why I figured it wasn't the ba-tray at
> first. In fact, I've never had a vehicle turn over so many times with a
> "bad" ba-tray.
> --
> John
Zackly why I skipped to the CPS.<shrug> Glad it's fixed.
kickstart
> > You need a Knuck.
>
> Yes I do. My knuck fund still exists, but has been depleted quite a bit
> the last couple years.
> You must have shut everything down for a couple weeks. I tried to email
> you and it bounced. It was nothing important and non knuck related.
> > Snarl-
A local guy here has 3 knuck motors $8k each
sn...@trippin.com
Do you know what years they are and if they have matching belly
numbers?
Snarl... not inna big hurry
kickstart
> >> > You need a Knuck.
>
> >> Yes I do. My knuck fund still exists, but has been depleted quite a bit
> >> the last couple years.
> >> You must have shut everything down for a couple weeks. I tried to email
> >> you and it bounced. It was nothing important and non knuck related.
>
> >> > Snarl-
> >A local guy here has 3 knuck motors $8k each
>
> Do you know what years they are and if they have matching belly
> numbers?
>
> Snarl... not inna big hurry
2 match, all rebuilt etc look good
motors only