ISF2010 set Date?
SloCalSpode
One request from me is not to pick the week of July 20-24th as
the US MotoGP @ Laguna Seca is the 24th-26th. Otherwise
I am pretty much game for any other dates.
Although a "combination trip" has it merits too.
SloCalSpode
Spodely
I would love to cast a vote for a week or two, but I just don't know
that far out. My plan is to plan on whatever date is chosen. I may
have a "real" job by then and have to arrange time. AND then go get
Scrape... pick up Jim and Deb on the way... cruise thru Jeff's neck
of the mountains and convince him he needs to go... hmmm... I have
plans to make.
john
slow down the summer trip to Montana for a suitable
layover in Idaho... got to pack for the southwest
tour Oklahoma, Dallas, Amarillo, Albuquerque, Tucson,
Roswell, St. Louis... trip...
john
The democracy will cease to exist when you take
away from those who are willing to work and
give to those who would not.
Thomas Jefferson
>"Spodely" <...
sturd
> One request from me is not to pick the week of July 20-24th
I propose Aug 1-8, first week of August.
Go fast. Take chances.
Mike S.
Dennis Kennedy
Sounds good to me. I'll try to extend those dates in both directions
if possible.
Dennis
sturd
> > I propose Aug 1-8, first week of August.
>
> Sounds good to me. I'll try to extend those dates in both directions
> if possible.
Did we just decide? That would be good for me.....
Dean H
> , sturd made a motion:
>
> > SloCalSpode says
>
> > > One request from me is not to pick the week of July 20-24th
>
> > I propose Aug 1-8, first week of August.
>
> > Go fast. Take chances.
> > Mike S.
>
> Sounds good to me. I'll try to extend those dates in both directions
> if possible.
>
> Dennis
I'll vote yeah.
-Dean
HardWorkingDog
<955b5e6b-5c4b-4c0e...@s15g2000yqs.googlegroups.com>,
sturd <mikestur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Dennis Kennedy seconds:
>
> > > I propose Aug 1-8, first week of August.
> >
> > Sounds good to me. �I'll try to extend those dates in both directions
> > if possible.
>
> Did we just decide? That would be good for me.....
>
>
Sounds good.
--
Charles
'99 YZ250
IdaSpode
<mikestur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Dennis Kennedy seconds:
>
>> > I propose Aug 1-8, first week of August.
>>
>> Sounds good to me. �I'll try to extend those dates in both directions
>> if possible.
>
>Did we just decide? That would be good for me.....
Works for me.
From past experience, it seems almost as important to choose the dates
that we/someone *can't* do it. Like Jeff and Laguna Seca weekend, or
Sturd's buddy MSF, etc.
I'll see if I can dig up my old SpodeFest email list and send out a
notice.
>Mike S.
DJ
SloCalSpode
vacation away from work, but, what the heck.
If that were the case. I'd arrive in Idaho
around the 28th or 29th of July. And have
till around the 6th for festing.
Gotta save up 12 vacation days by then..do able.
Jeff
sturd
> This could work for me.
OK, date is set here as Michael has committed to driving
his truck and not scheduling any MSF courses. We have
room for three more bikes, leaving Clevo around July 29-30.
We do not have room for people though as the truck will
really only do 2 comfortably for that long a drive. A second
car is possible, as is somebody flying out. I might fly
out and let somebody else do the windshield time.
All in the air except - we're coming.
Tosk
@c3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, mikestur...@hotmail.com says...
Still thinking of renting a motorhome if others are in. It might be nice
to have it at the base camp anyway. If not, I can drive my jeep, but can
only carry maybe three bikes in our trailer...
HellSickle
An entire week.... I need to get another bike mount put on the
trailer, so we can bring both trail & dual sport bikes.
Baumgartner again? Make sure that road gets graded the week before.
12 miles of washboard is hell on the RV.
-Jeff-
Dennis Kennedy
Last year it was as smooth as a babies ass. Much better than in
previous years.
Dennis
sturd
> Hmmmmmm......
>
> An entire week.... I need to get another bike mount put on the
> trailer, so we can bring both trail & dual sport bikes.
How legal does a bike have to be to be a dual sport there?
Just theoretically.
scrape
<mikestur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>HellSickle cogitates:
>
>> Hmmmmmm......
>>
>> An entire week.... � I need to get another bike mount put on the
>> trailer, so we can bring both trail & dual sport bikes.
>
>How legal does a bike have to be to be a dual sport there?
>Just theoretically.
Current fantasy is a 640 Adventure from here to there and back,
but that's ~4800 miles...
WoodsChick
> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:03:23 -0700 (PDT), sturd
>
> >HellSickle cogitates:
>
> >> Hmmmmmm......
>
> >> An entire week.... I need to get another bike mount put on the
> >> trailer, so we can bring both trail & dual sport bikes.
>
> >How legal does a bike have to be to be a dual sport there?
> >Just theoretically.
>
> Current fantasy is a 640 Adventure from here to there and back,
> but that's ~4800 miles...
So it's 4800 miles...what's your point?
We don't care *how* you get there, just save yourself for some riding
once you do get there.
Tami-
PrairieRider
Uh...I think Hell was wondering what constitutes a legal dual sport
bike in Eeee-da-how, not what's a legal route to get to this event.
Now way we're gonna tow trail bikes behind the dual sports anyway :-D
scrape
<TamiR...@msn.com> wrote:
>On Oct 30, 7:54�pm, scrape <scrapeNOTHA...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:03:23 -0700 (PDT), sturd
>>
>> <mikesturdevant...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >HellSickle cogitates:
>>
>> >> Hmmmmmm......
>>
>> >> An entire week.... � I need to get another bike mount put on the
>> >> trailer, so we can bring both trail & dual sport bikes.
>>
>> >How legal does a bike have to be to be a dual sport there?
>> >Just theoretically.
>>
>> Current fantasy is a 640 Adventure from here to there and back,
>> but that's ~4800 miles...
>
>So it's 4800 miles...what's your point?
Would you not agree that almost 5000 miles on a KTM seat might
qualify for some sort of award?
>We don't care *how* you get there, just save yourself for some riding
>once you do get there.
Kicking around various scenarios, but like I mentioned to KW, I've
got a long time to figure out why I'm not going to make it...
Dean H
> Baumgartner again? Make sure that road gets graded the week before.
> 12 miles of washboard is hell on the RV.
>
> -Jeff-
It wasn't so bad with that rent-a-car once I got it up on plane.
KW
"scrape" <scrapeN...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:26:58 -0700 (PDT), WoodsChick
> <TamiR...@msn.com> wrote:
>
>>On Oct 30, 7:54 pm, scrape <scrapeNOTHA...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:03:23 -0700 (PDT), sturd
>>>
>>> <mikesturdevant...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >HellSickle cogitates:
>>>
>>> >> Hmmmmmm......
>>>
>>> >> An entire week.... I need to get another bike mount put on the
>>> >> trailer, so we can bring both trail & dual sport bikes.
>>>
>>> >How legal does a bike have to be to be a dual sport there?
>>> >Just theoretically.
>>>
>>> Current fantasy is a 640 Adventure from here to there and back,
>>> but that's ~4800 miles...
>>
>>So it's 4800 miles...what's your point?
>
> Would you not agree that almost 5000 miles on a KTM seat might
> qualify for some sort of award?
http://www.desmoducati.org/images/awards/IronButtEd.jpg
http://www.ironbutt.org/images/big_iron.gif
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/25/94602195_517b4aabaf.jpg?v=0
http://www.ironbutt.com/rides/ultimate.gif
>
>>We don't care *how* you get there, just save yourself for some riding
>>once you do get there.
>
> Kicking around various scenarios, but like I mentioned to KW, I've
> got a long time to figure out why I'm not going to make it...
Can one be more diametrically opposed than, in a single post, to ask for an
award for being man enough to ride 5K miles and a mere 2 sentences away,
begin backpedaling with plans to wimp out altogether? :-)
KW
IdaSpode
Exactly, if you can maintain about 35-40 mph it smooths out quite
nicely, even when it's been a while since it was graded. Of course, if
you're towing it means drifting the trailer a bit in some of the
corners on the lower part.
IdaEarnhardt
WoodsChick
Yep, I knew exactly what Jeff meant. He made it clear by saying how
legal does it have to be "to be a dualsport there." I was responding
to Scrape saying it was a fantasy of his to ride there on a KTM 640
Adventure <G>
And yes, Scrape, I do believe you'd be up for some sort of award
should you decide on this route!
Tami-
sturd
I said:
> > > > >How legal does a bike have to be to be a dual sport there?
> > > > >Just theoretically.
> > Uh...I think Hell was wondering what constitutes a legal dual sport
> > bike in Eeee-da-how
That's exactly what I was wondering.
And nobody has given me a clue yet. I ask as I've got a guy
in Clevo maybe interested if he can dual sport on his
legal-enough-for-southern-Ohio (not very legal at all) Ooskvarna.
Will his registration be checked if he gets on a paved
road? Does he need insurance? Etc.....
WoodsChick
Well, ok. I forgot who said it, but I knew exactly what you meant <G>
I have no answer to your question.
> Go fast. Take chances.
> Mike S.
Tami-
Spodely
>
> - Show quoted text -
I'll try to answer it 'my' way. I have a Yamaha TT600 that has a
plate on it. I rode it all the way back to Featherville from the
campground and all around the area there back in about 04 or 05. No
one stopped me or questioned me back then. My RMX at the time also
had an official plate on it and the same thing.
Spodely
john
i'd think up an excuse but i'm too lazy
john
The harder I work, the luckier I seem
scrape
<keith_war...@windstream.net> wrote:
>Can one be more diametrically opposed than, in a single post, to ask for an
>award for being man enough to ride 5K miles and a mere 2 sentences away,
>begin backpedaling with plans to wimp out altogether? :-)
Didn't ask for an award there... Was merely pointing out that in
and of itself, that could be problematic.
And in all seriousness, it's never been a matter of wimping out.
It's other responsibilities that tend to get bumped up the
priority list without notice. That's my reality and while not
always conducive to getting things checked off on my "I really
want to do this" list, it's where I live.
scrape
<TamiR...@msn.com> wrote:
>Yep, I knew exactly what Jeff meant. He made it clear by saying how
>legal does it have to be "to be a dualsport there." I was responding
>to Scrape saying it was a fantasy of his to ride there on a KTM 640
>Adventure <G>
>
>And yes, Scrape, I do believe you'd be up for some sort of award
>should you decide on this route!
The 640 is starting to look like the bike that's going to occupy
my fantasy for the time being.
scrape
<john-rmd---@--gma--il.con> wrote:
> The harder I work, the luckier I seem
The harder I work, the more futile it seems.
KW
You are way too responsible my friend. I've lived that life for way too long
and have decided that it has been much too high a price to pay for such
limited rewards.
Carpe Diem, Vini Vidi Vici, Just Do It, Aww Fuck it! Pick one and try it
once in a while. Doesn't always make *them* happy, but does wonders for your
own sanity. Last weekend I had church obligations, major yard and house
projects looming (with family coming to visit the following weekend), iffy
weather forecast, major time crunch to get the bikes much overdue pm work
taken care of, much less all the freaking camping gear together and a
serious shortage of cash.....I simply chose option Number 4, punted as best
as possible and it turned out to be one of the top 5 weekends EVER spent
with my kids.
I challenge you to find even one tombstone that says "I wish I'd have spent
more time at work" Just Saying.
KW
*them* = any person who's desires/plans/expectations detract from your own.
WoodsChick
> On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:37:35 -0700 (PDT), WoodsChick
>
> >Yep, I knew exactly what Jeff meant. He made it clear by saying how
> >legal does it have to be "to be a dualsport there." I was responding
> >to Scrape saying it was a fantasy of his to ride there on a KTM 640
> >Adventure <G>
>
> >And yes, Scrape, I do believe you'd be up for some sort of award
> >should you decide on this route!
>
> The 640 is starting to look like the bike that's going to occupy
> my fantasy for the time being.
Are you stuck on the Adventure or have you considered an LC4 640e?
Eric's been loving his 640e. Super versatile, go-anywhere bike, more
versatile than the Adv in my opinion, especially if you're a true off-
road rider. He's ridden it on single track lots of times, ridden it in
Baja at +100mph, done 200-mile days off-road with a full load of
camping gear, and it is the perfect urban assault vehicle for the
hellish commutes here in the Bay Area. If you're looking for more
highway riding, though (thus less "Adventure" <G>) then the Adv might
be for you. Tell me your thoughts!
Eric's first LC4 640e in Nevada...
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb35/WoodsChick/Nevada%20May%2008/P1010050.jpg
And his 2nd one in Baja...
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb35/WoodsChick/Baja%20Feb%2009/Baja026.jpg
Tami-
john
> On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 10:02:53 -0400, "KW"
> <keith
>>an
>>award for being man enough to ride 5K miles and a mere 2 sentences away,
>>begin backpedaling with plans to wimp out altogether? :-)
>
> Didn't ask for an award there... Was merely pointing out that in
> and of itself, that could be problematic.
>
> And in all seriousness, it's never been a matter of wimping out.
> It's other responsibilities that tend to get bumped up the
> priority list without notice. That's my reality and while not
> always conducive to getting things checked off on my "I really
> want to do this" list, it's where I live.
>
hmm... when does the leach start paying for my social
security LOL..... let me know when I can sit
back & enjoy the easy street.... in the mean time
pray to be abducted by aliens or some Spode with
a trailer full of bikes.
john
the dark rings around my eyes look like m12's
john
the kids college, they better get some
serious scholarships <grin>
john
paying it forward sideways & backwards...
scrape
No, I'm not stuck on anything at all. In fact, as of today, I'm
leaning towards a DR650.
And I guess I always preferred the Enduro to the Adventure. And
by always, I mean for the last 48 hours.
scrape
You are 100% absolutely right. And it's never been work that's
displaced fun. Well, not never, but rarely. The responsibilities
are ones that I've chosen to label as such and although I often
wish for more available time, I doubt I'll ever regret honoring
them.
scrape
Anything even remotely resembling a leech has been purged from my
list. And it was a decent sized purge.
scrape
<TamiR...@msn.com> wrote:
>Eric's first LC4 640e in Nevada...
>http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb35/WoodsChick/Nevada%20May%2008/P1010050.jpg
Yes, that's what I'm talking about.
>
>And his 2nd one in Baja...
>http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb35/WoodsChick/Baja%20Feb%2009/Baja026.jpg
Uh-oh, I didn't realize Husaberg was an option...
KW
scrape
<keith_war...@windstream.net> wrote:
>Touch�
Not required. I knew you'd get it.
WoodsChick
> On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 09:54:57 -0800 (PST), WoodsChick
>
>
>
>
>
> <TamiRow...@msn.com> wrote:
> >On Nov 1, 5:42 am, scrape <scrapeNOTHA...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:37:35 -0700 (PDT), WoodsChick
>
> >> <TamiRow...@msn.com> wrote:
> >> >Yep, I knew exactly what Jeff meant. He made it clear by saying how
> >> >legal does it have to be "to be a dualsport there." I was responding
> >> >to Scrape saying it was a fantasy of his to ride there on a KTM 640
> >> >Adventure <G>
>
> >> >And yes, Scrape, I do believe you'd be up for some sort of award
> >> >should you decide on this route!
>
> >> The 640 is starting to look like the bike that's going to occupy
> >> my fantasy for the time being.
>
> >Are you stuck on the Adventure or have you considered an LC4 640e?
> >Eric's been loving his 640e. Super versatile, go-anywhere bike, more
> >versatile than the Adv in my opinion, especially if you're a true off-
> >road rider. He's ridden it on single track lots of times, ridden it in
> >Baja at +100mph, done 200-mile days off-road with a full load of
> >camping gear, and it is the perfect urban assault vehicle for the
> >hellish commutes here in the Bay Area. If you're looking for more
> >highway riding, though (thus less "Adventure" <G>) then the Adv might
> >be for you. Tell me your thoughts!
>
> >Eric's first LC4 640e in Nevada...
>
> >And his 2nd one in Baja...
>
> No, I'm not stuck on anything at all. In fact, as of today, I'm
> leaning towards a DR650.
Crappy rear tire selection. If you go with a DR650, lace your rear hub
to an 18" rim.
>
> And I guess I always preferred the Enduro to the Adventure. And
> by always, I mean for the last 48 hours.- Hide quoted text -
Hey, 48 hours can be a really long time.
The enduro models are a lot cheaper than the Adv model, even though
they're harder to find. Same motor on the Enduro model, but with less
weight and better suspension.
Tami-
PrairieRider
I'm an idjit. <blush> I realized my mistake later and meant to say
something about needing lessons on how to read text based forum
posts. I'll go crawl back out to the garage now...need to swap out
front tube.
WoodsChick
LOL! No you aren't! Although, you *are* dating Jeff...hmm...
> I realized my mistake later and meant to say
> something about needing lessons on how to read text based forum
> posts.
Hey, don't feel bad; turns out we *both* got it wrong<G> I didn't even
know who the hell I was quoting!
I found RMD before almost anything else on the internets (I was a late
bloomer) so it just seems normal to me, but I would imagine it would
look kinda weird and not be too user friendly if someone were used to
all that techno-slickery of ADV and such.
> I'll go crawl back out to the garage now...need to swap out
> front tube.
Hey, while you're at it I need a new front tire on my KTM, `kay?
<snicker!>
Tami-
scrape
<TamiR...@msn.com> wrote:
>> No, I'm not stuck on anything at all. �In fact, as of today, I'm
>> leaning towards a DR650.
>
>Crappy rear tire selection. If you go with a DR650, lace your rear hub
>to an 18" rim.
Still stuck on the DR as of today - it's cheap, what the hell... -
but total cost is going to be a consideration. New ones are under
$6K. Two year old ones are advertised in the $3500 range.
>> And I guess I always preferred the Enduro to the Adventure. �And
>> by always, I mean for the last 48 hours.- Hide quoted text -
>
>Hey, 48 hours can be a really long time.
>The enduro models are a lot cheaper than the Adv model, even though
>they're harder to find. Same motor on the Enduro model, but with less
>weight and better suspension.
BUT - what do you get on the ADV? More oil capacity for longer
range between changes, etc. Seems like the book is out on some of
the models, but others are well regarded.
PrairieRider
Lol...hmmm...I think Jeff is one of my smarter life choices. <heart>
(ok...I'll cut with the mushy stuff...don't want anybody drowning in
vomit)
>
> > I realized my mistake later and meant to say
> > something about needing lessons on how to read text based forum
> > posts.
>
> Hey, don't feel bad; turns out we *both* got it wrong<G> I didn't even
> know who the hell I was quoting!
> I found RMD before almost anything else on the internets (I was a late
> bloomer) so it just seems normal to me, but I would imagine it would
> look kinda weird and not be too user friendly if someone were used to
> all that techno-slickery of ADV and such.
>
> > I'll go crawl back out to the garage now...need to swap out
> > front tube.
>
> Hey, while you're at it I need a new front tire on my KTM, `kay?
> <snicker!>
Hey, if you were closer, I could use the practice! :-) Got the tube
done. Not fast, but done. Made a point of doing it while Jeff's at
work so he wouldn't keep "helping" me. ;-)
>
> Tami-
So, back on topic...this Scrapefest really has me excited. Scrape,
you better get your buns out there.,.none of this waffling. Looks
like this is going to be a good opportunity to meet all the RMD biker
scum Jeff's been hangin' with the last, uh, what is it...20 or so
years?! Beside, I'm expecting I'll get properly de-n00bed.
HellSickle
> Lol...hmmm...I think Jeff is one of my smarter life choices. <heart>
> (ok...I'll cut with the mushy stuff...don't want anybody drowning in
> vomit)
<blush>
> Hey, if you were closer, I could use the practice! :-) Got the tube
> done. Not fast, but done. Made a point of doing it while Jeff's at
> work so he wouldn't keep "helping" me. ;-)
Jutifiably so. The only two tubes I've messed up in the last 20 years
have both been yours. I owed you a tube.
> So, back on topic...this Scrapefest really has me excited. Scrape,
> you better get your buns out there.,.none of this waffling. Looks
> like this is going to be a good opportunity to meet all the RMD biker
> scum Jeff's been hangin' with the last, uh, what is it...20 or so
> years?! Beside, I'm expecting I'll get properly de-n00bed.- Hide quoted text -
Waffling.... Reminds me of the discussion on proper folding of egg
whites. Is the correct technique anything like *not* pinching
tubes? That would explain an awful lot ;-)
-Jeff-
Wudsracer
>>On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 18:58:40 -0800 (PST), PrairieRider wrote:
>>
>> I'm an idjit. <blush>
>>> To which Tami replied:
>>>
>>> LOL! No you aren't! Although, you *are* dating Jeff...hmm...
>>>which prompts PR to say:
>>>Lol...hmmm...I think Jeff is one of my smarter life choices. <heart>
>>>(ok...I'll cut with the mushy stuff...don't want anybody drowning in
>>>vomit)
>>>So, back on topic...this Scrapefest really has me excited. Scrape,
>>>you better get your buns out there.,.none of this waffling. Looks
>>>like this is going to be a good opportunity to meet all the RMD biker
>>>scum Jeff's been hangin' with the last, uh, what is it...20 or so
>>>years?! Beside, I'm expecting I'll get properly de-n00bed.
****************************************
Paula,
While we will all miss Jeff's tales of the misadventures of "his
friend", what with the chainsawing of the front tire of the XR and
all, we are all very proud that he has found someone who can
appreciate him and take care of him. I think he's earned it (and that
he's a lucky sob).
I think that something is mellowing him a bit though. I haven't
hear of any recent jeffications in quite a while.
OMT. If Scrape makes it, and I can get Deb to skip the youngest
granddaughter's third birthday that week, he and I will definitely be
along for the chick ride (as long as you all don't make it too rough
and tough for me).
(I may need some help from someone to properly jet the Husaberg. I
can, and will, quickly and easily have the GasGas ready for Idaho, but
this 4-stroke jetting stuff is sort of new to me.)
Good Riding!
Jim
Fort Collins is just past halfway from here to Scrapefest.
Wudsracer/Jim Cook
Smackover Racing
'06 Gas Gas DE300
'82 Husqvarna XC250
Team LAGNAF
PrairieRider
> *************************************>>On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 18:58:40 -0800 (PST), PrairieRider wrote:
>
> >> I'm an idjit. <blush>
>
> ************************************>>> To which Tami replied:
>
> >>> LOL! No you aren't! Although, you *are* dating Jeff...hmm...
>
> ************************************
>
> >>>which prompts PR to say:
> >>>Lol...hmmm...I think Jeff is one of my smarter life choices. <heart>
> >>>(ok...I'll cut with the mushy stuff...don't want anybody drowning in
> >>>vomit)
> >>>So, back on topic...this Scrapefest really has me excited. Scrape,
> >>>you better get your buns out there.,.none of this waffling. Looks
> >>>like this is going to be a good opportunity to meet all the RMD biker
> >>>scum Jeff's been hangin' with the last, uh, what is it...20 or so
> >>>years?! Beside, I'm expecting I'll get properly de-n00bed.
>
> ****************************************
> Paula,
> While we will all miss Jeff's tales of the misadventures of "his
> friend", what with the chainsawing of the front tire of the XR and
> all, we are all very proud that he has found someone who can
> appreciate him and take care of him. I think he's earned it (and that
> he's a lucky sob).
I guess that makes me a lucky dob.
> I think that something is mellowing him a bit though.
Not mellowing...he's getting Paula-fied. Been teaching him to knit.
Apparently, it's taking its toll. He was complaining about a hurt
thumb last night. Nearly had to call the waaaahhhhmbulance. ;-)
>I haven't
> hear of any recent jeffications in quite a while.
The weather here hasn't been helping; however, you could say that he
Jefficated some folks in UT taking them on 5MOH. So much so that they
all weenied out on the originally planned loop and headed straight
back to camp (where the malted sports drink container was nicely iced
down...) while Jeff rode on. There is something about a snow & ice
ride this Sunday...
> OMT. If Scrape makes it,
In UT, someone proudly presented his buttocks as a target for the
potato gun though I never did hit it...came close a couple of times.
Seeing as how Scrape seems to enjoy baring all, he'll have to be in
attendance so I can practice my sharp shooting. It's the least he can
do, don'tchya think?
> and I can get Deb to skip the youngest
> granddaughter's third birthday that week, he and I will definitely be
> along for the chick ride (as long as you all don't make it too rough
> and tough for me).
I'll try riding nearly anything, but generally it's not pretty or
fast, so you'll probably be ok. I'm a little concerned about
following Tami... :-D
> (I may need some help from someone to properly jet the Husaberg. I
> can, and will, quickly and easily have the GasGas ready for Idaho, but
> this 4-stroke jetting stuff is sort of new to me.)
>
> Good Riding!
>
> Jim
> Fort Collins is just past halfway from here to Scrapefest.
If you're coming out I-80, Laramie is directly on your route! Hope it
works out for you to make it.
KW
"PrairieRider" <psbe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 3, 8:30 pm, Wudsracer <babba...@Lucy.com> wrote:
> *************************************>>On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 18:58:40 -0800
> (PST), PrairieRider wrote:
>
> >> I'm an idjit. <blush>
>
> ************************************>>> To which Tami replied:
>
> >>> LOL! No you aren't! Although, you *are* dating Jeff...hmm...
>
> ************************************
Still not an idjit....but does question one's judgement :-)
>
> >>>which prompts PR to say:
> >>>Lol...hmmm...I think Jeff is one of my smarter life choices. <heart>
> >>>(ok...I'll cut with the mushy stuff...don't want anybody drowning in
> >>>vomit)
> >>>So, back on topic...this Scrapefest really has me excited. Scrape,
> >>>you better get your buns out there.,.none of this waffling. Looks
> >>>like this is going to be a good opportunity to meet all the RMD biker
> >>>scum Jeff's been hangin' with the last, uh, what is it...20 or so
> >>>years?! Beside, I'm expecting I'll get properly de-n00bed.
>
> ****************************************
> Paula,
> While we will all miss Jeff's tales of the misadventures of "his
> friend", what with the chainsawing of the front tire of the XR and
> all, we are all very proud that he has found someone who can
> appreciate him and take care of him. I think he's earned it (and that
> he's a lucky sob).
> I guess that makes me a lucky dob.
> I think that something is mellowing him a bit though.
> Not mellowing...he's getting Paula-fied. Been teaching him to knit.
> Apparently, it's taking its toll. He was complaining about a hurt
> thumb last night. Nearly had to call the waaaahhhhmbulance. ;-)
Not touching this one as I can truly and properly operate a sewing machine
(do I get testosterone points back if 6 hours of said use on Dec 26, 2008
was for the sole purpose of attaching 50 bajillion patches to 3 new Boy
Scout uniforms?)
>I haven't
> hear of any recent jeffications in quite a while.
> The weather here hasn't been helping; however, you could say that he
>Jefficated some folks in UT taking them on 5MOH. So much so that they
>all weenied out on the originally planned loop and headed straight
>back to camp (where the malted sports drink container was nicely iced
>down...) while Jeff rode on. There is something about a snow & ice
>ride this Sunday...
> OMT. If Scrape makes it,
>In UT, someone proudly presented his buttocks as a target for the
>potato gun though I never did hit it...came close a couple of times.
>Seeing as how Scrape seems to enjoy baring all, he'll have to be in
>attendance so I can practice my sharp shooting. It's the least he can
>do, don'tchya think?
scrape has already begun collecting excuses not to attend, please refrain
from providing legitimate fodder for that list. <VBG>
> and I can get Deb to skip the youngest
> granddaughter's third birthday that week, he and I will definitely be
> along for the chick ride (as long as you all don't make it too rough
> and tough for me).
> I'll try riding nearly anything, but generally it's not pretty or
> fast, so you'll probably be ok. I'm a little concerned about
> following Tami... :-D
I hear that she's fast for sure, but your biggest worry by *following* Tami
will be the possibility of being hit by snapped and discarded bike parts.
KW
Tim H
> "PrairieRider" <psbeck...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > *************************************>>On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 18:58:40 -0800
> > (PST), PrairieRider wrote:
>
> > >> I'm an idjit. <blush>
>
> > ************************************>>> To which Tami replied:
>
> > >>> LOL! No you aren't! Although, you *are* dating Jeff...hmm...
>
> > ************************************
>
> Still not an idjit....but does question one's judgement :-)
Let's see...takes up riding dirt at an age normally considered, uh,
more mature than most of us started at, AND is dating Jeff...
Nah, her judgement seems fine to me. I always thought Jeff has a purty
mouth...
> > >>>So, back on topic...this Scrapefest really has me excited. Scrape,
> > >>>you better get your buns out there.,.none of this waffling. Looks
> > >>>like this is going to be a good opportunity to meet all the RMD biker
> > >>>scum Jeff's been hangin' with the last, uh, what is it...20 or so
> > >>>years?!
Hey, not me. I'm just part of the scum from the last 8 years or so. Of
course, it looks like we'll be old friends long before Scrapefest
anyway (hah-hah; I'm gonna get the holeshot on the rest of RMD in
meeting Paula, neener neener).
> > >>>Beside, I'm expecting I'll get properly de-n00bed.
Well, we'll do it properly, on the trail where it belongs. Be prepared
for the wait until everybody finishes taking pictures before they'll
help you out from under your bike should you tip over or some such.
Though I must admit, when Wudscrasher (A.K.A. "Sandy") tipped over in
a tiny little creeek, I helped him up before going for my camera. I
have, of course, regretted this ever since.
> > > I think that something is mellowing him a bit though.
> > Not mellowing...he's getting Paula-fied. Been teaching him to knit.
> > Apparently, it's taking its toll. He was complaining about a hurt
> > thumb last night. Nearly had to call the waaaahhhhmbulance. ;-)
>
> Not touching this one as I can truly and properly operate a sewing machine
> (do I get testosterone points back if 6 hours of said use on Dec 26, 2008
> was for the sole purpose of attaching 50 bajillion patches to 3 new Boy
> Scout uniforms?)
Sorry Keith. The testosterone points only come back for manly stuff
like reupholstering your '57 Chevy, or something similar. The Boy
Scout thing pays points into a different account, but the "Good
Parent" account is pretty darned important too.
> > >I haven't
> > > hear of any recent jeffications in quite a while.
It sounds like Jeff has found a pool of talent from ADV that seems to
LIKE being Jefficated. If not for their strange fascination with
enormous, inappropriate street bikes around on dirt roads and the
occasional real trail, I'd say these people are my kind of people. I
don't get the street thing, though.
> > The weather here hasn't been helping; however, you could say that he
> >Jefficated some folks in UT taking them on 5MOH. So much so that they
> >all weenied out on the originally planned loop and headed straight
> >back to camp (where the malted sports drink container was nicely iced
> >down...) while Jeff rode on.
5MOH can bring out the inner wussy...but they were probably expecting
pavement for at least part of the ride. Hell must have come as quite a
shock to them.
> >There is something about a snow & ice ride this Sunday...
Atta boy, Jeff.
> > and I can get Deb to skip the youngest
> > granddaughter's third birthday that week, he and I will definitely be
> > along for the chick ride (as long as you all don't make it too rough
> > and tough for me).
> > I'll try riding nearly anything, but generally it's not pretty or
> > fast, so you'll probably be ok. I'm a little concerned about
> > following Tami... :-D
No worries, Tami is a great trail partner, and loads of fun to follow.
Exciting, amusing, suspenseful, everything you could hope for on the
trail.
> I hear that she's fast for sure,
Tami? Nah, you're thinking of the "old" Tami. The "new" Tami is
sensible and calm and rides well within her capabilities nearly all of
the time. Just don't, whatever you do, lead her to think that there is
some sort of competition between you on the trail. If she thinks it's
some sort of race (ANY sort as far as I can tell) it unleashes a beast
that lives inside of her. The girl is nothing if not competitive if
it's going to be a race.
> but your biggest worry by *following* Tami
> will be the possibility of being hit by snapped and discarded bike parts.
That's not fair. She pretty much always comes back with all of the
bike's parts still attached, and sometimes manages to add collections
of tire irons and end wrenches, along with any hose clamps that can be
scrounged from the group's bikes.
Tim H
HellSickle
> Not mellowing...he's getting Paula-fied. Been teaching him to knit.
> Apparently, it's taking its toll. He was complaining about a hurt
> thumb last night. Nearly had to call the waaaahhhhmbulance. ;-)
If it's any consolation, my thumbs hurt much worse after
reupholstering a bike seat last night. ;-/
> The weather here hasn't been helping; however, you could say that he
> Jefficated some folks in UT taking them on 5MOH. So much so that they
> all weenied out on the originally planned loop and headed straight
> back to camp (where the malted sports drink container was nicely iced
> down...) while Jeff rode on. There is something about a snow & ice
> ride this Sunday...
Yah, 8 of us entered Hell. I took a bad spill, yet I was the only one
up for more riding afterward. Since we are exposing body parts,
here's the aftermath a week after my spectacular uphill nose wheelie.
http://home.comcast.net/%7Ejdeeney/pictures/utah09fall/bruise.jpg
I don't think it was a case of superior riding skills or machismo that
kept me going when everyone else quit. I attribute my results
entirely to superior medication. :-O
> In UT, someone proudly presented his buttocks as a target for the
> potato gun though I never did hit it...came close a couple of times.
> Seeing as how Scrape seems to enjoy baring all, he'll have to be in
> attendance so I can practice my sharp shooting. It's the least he can
> do, don'tchya think?
Ruh-roh!
http://home.comcast.net/%7Ejdeeney/pictures/utah09fall/spud.jpg
-Jeff-
SloCalSpode
web site while doing some ISF2010 research:
--------------------------------------------------------------
This past winter the state of Idaho enacted legislation that allows
individuals to operate off-highway vehicles (OHV) on National Forest
System roads, whether or not they have a driver's license. When
traveling on National Forest System roads to or from your favorite
camping or hunting spot, you may encounter other drivers of all ages
with varying experience levels and different types of motorized
vehicles. Please take extra care to watch for all kinds of traffic to
avoid life-altering collisions on roads managed by your national
forest. We are working with elected officials and interested publics
to identify legislative solutions that will help protect both the
opportunity for OHV recreation and all of our visitors.
----------------------------
This may help answer your dual-sport on forest roads question.
SloCalSpode
----------------------------------------------------------------
sturd wrote:
> How legal does a bike have to be to be a dual sport there?
> Just theoretically.
IdaSpode
<jjwa...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Found this just a few minutes ago on the Payette National Forest
> web site while doing some ISF2010 research:
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>This past winter the state of Idaho enacted legislation that allows
>individuals to operate off-highway vehicles (OHV) on National Forest
>System roads, whether or not they have a driver's license. When
>traveling on National Forest System roads to or from your favorite
>camping or hunting spot, you may encounter other drivers of all ages
>with varying experience levels and different types of motorized
>vehicles. Please take extra care to watch for all kinds of traffic to
>avoid life-altering collisions on roads managed by your national
>forest. We are working with elected officials and interested publics
>to identify legislative solutions that will help protect both the
>opportunity for OHV recreation and all of our visitors.
To expand on this a little:
Idaho has also initiated a "restricted plate" for OHVs. This plate
allows properly registered and insured vehicles ridden by individuals
with a MC endorsement on their DL to operate on all state and county
*roads*, not to include state or federal *highways* or freeways.
More info can be seen at:
http://parksandrecreation.idaho.gov/recreation/motorbikesandatvs.aspx
And more specifically on equipment:
http://parksandrecreation.idaho.gov/assets/content/docs/OHV/IDAHO_OHV_2009.pdf
Links to Idaho National Forests and many other government links:
http://www.spodefest.net/rmd/gov_links.htm
DJ
scrape
<psbe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Seeing as how Scrape seems to enjoy baring all, he'll have to be in
>attendance so I can practice my sharp shooting. It's the least he can
>do, don'tchya think?
I do believe I've been mistaken for someone who used to do rude
things to Kawasakis.
T'weren't I.
It was that guy that's buying up half of NH and uses odd slang.
scrape
<keith_war...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>Seeing as how Scrape seems to enjoy baring all, he'll have to be in
>>attendance so I can practice my sharp shooting. It's the least he can
>>do, don'tchya think?
>
>scrape has already begun collecting excuses not to attend, please refrain
>from providing legitimate fodder for that list. <VBG>
I can come up with my own. Trust me, I apparently need no help in
this matter.
The Real Bev
> Not touching this one as I can truly and properly operate a sewing machine
> (do I get testosterone points back if 6 hours of said use on Dec 26, 2008
> was for the sole purpose of attaching 50 bajillion patches to 3 new Boy
> Scout uniforms?)
Only if you use a Husqvarna sewing machine like mine.
--
Cheers, Bev
0101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010
Q. What's the difference between Batman and Bill Gates?
A. When Batman fought the Penguin, he won.
-- J. Levine
sturd
> This past winter the state of Idaho enacted legislation that allows
> individuals to operate off-highway vehicles (OHV) on National Forest
> System roads, whether or not they have a driver's license.
Uh, oh. My little one started lobbying to go to
Idaho the instant I put it on the calendar. He's not
ready today but the rate of his improvement is awe
inspiring.
I'm not telling him.
> This may help answer your dual-sport on forest roads question.
> SloCalSpode
Yep, thanks.
Go fast. Take chances.
Mike S.
sturd
> Idaho has also initiated a "restricted plate" for OHVs. This plate
> allows properly registered and insured vehicles ridden by individuals
> with a MC endorsement on their DL to operate on all state and county
> *roads*, not to include state or federal *highways* or freeways.
Cool, that's exactly what I needed.
We're down to one spot in the truck for a bike.
Four of us fer sure.
Wudscrasher
> Well, we'll do it properly, on the trail where it belongs. Be prepared
> for the wait until everybody finishes taking pictures before they'll
> help you out from under your bike should you tip over or some such.
> Though I must admit, when Wudscrasher (A.K.A. "Sandy") tipped over in
> a tiny little creeek, I helped him up before going for my camera. I
> have, of course, regretted this ever since.
You're Gall-darned right! I'm pissed you or Tami didn't get your
cameras out for that, and I regret that you didn't!!!
Sorry I'm late to the party, and sorry for not being around much.
That ADVrider is addictive, with all it's fancy pictures, video &
such. Going through this thread made me realize I haven't stopped in,
or e-mailed any of you in a long time. I thought it might have to do
with there being no SF's to plan/talk about, but by God...it looks
like there's one, now! Looks like PrairieRider has introduced
herself, so I'm off the hook for being Jeff's girlfriend, and I don't
believe for a second Tami has slowed down :) The SV is riding nicely,
Tami, BTW (doesn't do so bad off-road, too!) I acquired an old XR400
as my DS bike, but still have the KDX, KW! (albeit a bent subframe, a-
la Donner Pass). Count me in for next year as well, and for longer
than when Jeff & I went in '06. I hope to have my own rig and explore
more than a few days, both trail & DS. Y'know, I still have dreams of
coming down that sidehill with the bombers flying overhead, and the
butterflys alighting from the rocks in front of my tire as I bounced
down the trail...simply beautiful...I wanna go back to Baum, and don't
care what dates you set, I'll take it off
--Wuds
KW
"Wudscrasher" <wudsc...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:a2d4a48d-bfba-487f...@15g2000yqy.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 4, 10:54 am, Tim H <tntharr...@msn.com> wrote:
> I acquired an old XR400
> as my DS bike, but still have the KDX, KW! (albeit a bent subframe, a-
> la Donner Pass).
I happen to know where you can pick one up pretty cheap! $15 plus shipping
http://www.singletrackplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=414&page=2
Watch yourself though, he's a KDX guy named Chris.....you know how those
guys are....just saying!
KW
KW
"The Real Bev" <bashl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> KW wrote:
>
>> Not touching this one as I can truly and properly operate a sewing
>> machine (do I get testosterone points back if 6 hours of said use on Dec
>> 26, 2008 was for the sole purpose of attaching 50 bajillion patches to 3
>> new Boy Scout uniforms?)
>
> Only if you use a Husqvarna sewing machine like mine.
>
Actually one of the machine in Mom's stable *is* a Husky....but its a serger
and way beyond my capacity to operate. Krap....lots testosterone points just
for knowing what the frag a serger is I bet! :-)
KW
Tosk
keith_war...@windstream.net says...
That would be "Chestosterone" and it is a bi-product of "Chesticles"...
;)
Rowdy Mouse Racing, here comes the boots and goggles... Duck!
--
Wafa free again.
john
> kw
>>
>> "The Real Bev" <bashl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> > KW wrote:
>> >
>> >> Not touching this one as I can truly and properly operate a sewing
>> >> machine (do I get testosterone points back if 6 hours of said use on Dec
>> >> 26, 2008 was for the sole purpose of attaching 50 bajillion patches to 3
>> >> new Boy Scout uniforms?)
>> >
>> > Only if you use a Husqvarna sewing machine like mine.
>> >
>>
>> Actually one of the machine in Mom's stable *is* a Husky....but its a serger
>> and way beyond my capacity to operate. Krap....lots testosterone points just
>> for knowing what the frag a serger is I bet! :-)
>>
>> KW
>
> That would be "Chestosterone" and it is a bi-product of "Chesticles"...
> ;)
>
> Rowdy Mouse Racing, here comes the boots and goggles... Duck!
>
> --
> Wafa free again.
okay, what is this sewing machine thing
Dr. Ben Dover
Tosk
n...@this.add says...
Well, we have a pretty nice CNC Embroidery machine, but a surge machine
is a nice piece of equipment that usually has several (4?) spools of
thread and it's primary function is to do the edges of material to keep
them from being unraveled. Look at the v pattern on the end of a sleeve
or the hem of a dress..
Rowdy Mouse Racing, hurmph, Chesticles!
--
Wafa free again.
john
>> > That would be "Chestosterone" and it is a bi-product of "Chesticles"...
>> > ;)
>> >
>> > Rowdy Mouse Racing, here comes the boots and goggles... Duck!
>> >
>> > --
>> > Wafa free again.
>>
>> okay, what is this sewing machine thing
>> Dr. Ben Dover
>
> Well, we have a pretty nice CNC Embroidery machine, but a surge machine
> is a nice piece of equipment that usually has several (4?) spools of
> thread and it's primary function is to do the edges of material to keep
> them from being unraveled. Look at the v pattern on the end of a sleeve
> or the hem of a dress..
>
> Rowdy Mouse Racing, hurmph, Chesticles!
>
> --
> Wafa free again.
oh CNC, i understand those things, so that's how the
clothes get fixed from when i drop them on the floor
and they return to my shelf clean & mended...
<dodging the flying frying pans coming from the kitchen>
chesticles, why does that give me a image
of a pair of icicles hanging off a chest protector?
john
- Don't be sexist. Chicks hate it.
Dean H
>
Get a room.
Dean H
/*+
. Y'know, I still have dreams of
> coming down that sidehill with the bombers flying overhead, and the
> butterflys alighting from the rocks in front of my tire as I bounced
> down the trail...simply beautiful...I wanna go back to Baum, and don't
> care what dates you set, I'll take it off
>
> --Wuds
I forgot about those bombers.
I think I was right behind you at that moment.
It was sort of a surreal juxtaposition.
See you at scrapefest (worth a trip from anywhere).
-dean
Tosk
n...@this.add says...
Well, at the risk of being redundant, I will tell the story again.
After a particularly rough race for The Mouse, a bunch of us were
sitting around talking about her riding that little 100 in the 125
class. One of the officials was saying how she had the biggest balls in
NEMA. Jessi heard this and yelled at us, "I don't have balls". I
responded "OK you got big boobs", again, the boots and goggles started
flying, "I don't have big boobs, I am only 15". Suddenly from across the
fire-pit a guy on our team yelled out "She's got Chesticles!" we were
all rolling on the ground by then, and the equipment suddenly started
going in his direction! Well, it became a joke on the team and a few
weeks later she was getting ready to go knock some kid out and Ray said,
"there goes those Chesticles again" to which I kind of muttered under my
breath, "Chestosterone", again, everyone was rolling on the ground and I
was ducking a chest protector and a glove or two, iirc...
Rowdy Mouse Racing, bruised and bleeding, this *is* the best sport ever!
--
Wafa free again.
Dean H
> > >> Actually one of the machine in Mom's stable *is* a Husky....but its a serger
> > >> and way beyond my capacity to operate. Krap....lots testosterone points just
> > >> for knowing what the frag a serger is I bet! :-)
>
> > >> KW
>
> > > That would be "Chestosterone" and it is a bi-product of "Chesticles"...
> > > ;)
>
> > > Rowdy Mouse Racing, here comes the boots and goggles... Duck!
>
> > > --
> > > Wafa free again.
>
> > okay, what is this sewing machine thing
> > Dr. Ben Dover
>
> Well, we have a pretty nice CNC Embroidery machine, but a surge machine
> is a nice piece of equipment that usually has several (4?) spools of
> thread and it's primary function is to do the edges of material to keep
> them from being unraveled. Look at the v pattern on the end of a sleeve
> or the hem of a dress..
>
> Rowdy Mouse Racing, hurmph, Chesticles!
>
Actually, look at the inside seam of a sweatshirt. A serger does that
"overlock" stitch that wraps over the edge of the fabric. As Scotty
noted, it keeps fabrics from unravelling. This is more important with
knits that wovens. The serger also cuts the edge right before it does
the overlock, so it's perfect every time. It's sort of easier than a
regular sewing machine in that respect, but it's only good for what it
does. The V-stitch on a hem is different I think.
I did a seat for the Yomama DT 175 with the ex's serger. Very cool
tool. Sewing machines are very cool too. Tools are cool, period. I
want them all.
Tosk
c336cd...@d5g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, dfh...@optonline.net says...
I have several sewing machines. The Embroidery machine is cool and fun,
but it's an entry level one so it has limitations. I also have a couple
antique Singers that all work fine. My prize is a shoemakers machine
that is pedal driven, the thing is unstoppable..
--
Wafa free again.
Volker Bartheld
On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 07:48:22 -0800 (PST), Dean H wrote:
> Actually, look at the inside seam of a sweatshirt. A serger does that
> "overlock" stitch that wraps over the edge of the fabric. [...]
> I did a seat for the Yomama DT 175 with the ex's serger. Very cool
> tool. Sewing machines are very cool too. Tools are cool, period. I
> want them all.
*LOL* So I'm not the only one with some sewing experience? That soothes my
conscience. I was already getting the impression that there's something
wrong with me using a pussy machine to convert shrunken MX pants into
knickerbockers or fabricate my own neoprene fork boots. Phew. Thanks for
admitting.
Cheers,
Volker,
rather spending $100 for a tool instead of paying $10 for a shop-job.
--
@: I N F O at B A R T H E L D dot N E T
3W: www.bartheld.net
IdaSpode
<dr_ve...@freenet.de> wrote:
>Hi Dean!
>
>On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 07:48:22 -0800 (PST), Dean H wrote:
>> Actually, look at the inside seam of a sweatshirt. A serger does that
>> "overlock" stitch that wraps over the edge of the fabric. [...]
>> I did a seat for the Yomama DT 175 with the ex's serger. Very cool
>> tool. Sewing machines are very cool too. Tools are cool, period. I
>> want them all.
>
>*LOL* So I'm not the only one with some sewing experience? That soothes my
>conscience. I was already getting the impression that there's something
>wrong with me using a pussy machine to convert shrunken MX pants into
>knickerbockers or fabricate my own neoprene fork boots. Phew. Thanks for
>admitting.
I started to learn sewing as a teenager in the 60s, when the rage was
skin tight pants, we called it "pegging your pants". My mom showed me
the basics and away I went. As a young adult I bought a small machine,
made my own bell bottom pants, patched favorite jeans, repair zippers
etc.
Then when I was heavy into hang gliding and looking for a new harness,
I couldn't find one I liked that seemed worth the $800 price tag. My
solution was to spend $1000 on a compound walking foot, upholstery
machine. I designed and built the harness, worked out quite nicely. As
word spread among the local hang gliding community that I had a big
sewing machine and knew how to use it, I began to do repairs,
made/repaired/modified harnesses, glider bags, packs, gear bags,
suspension systems, one piece flight suits etc. It turned into a small
part time business which paid for the machine many times over.
Althought I don't use it nearly as often, I still have the machine.
It's nice to be able to repair/fabricate stuff that requires the
ability to sew multiple layers of webbing, leather, plastic, replace
velcro on my riding boots, zippers in packs etc. Plus, I still have
hundreds of feet of various size webbing, rolls of velcro, rolls of
zipper and tons of webbing fittings, tangs, d-rings, buckles etc.
The machine will sew about anything I can stuff under the foot. One
time I was repairing a seam on a friends attache case. I'm going
along, going chink-chink-chink, then it went chunk-chunk-chunk a few
times. Turns out I had sewn through the fabric and through the 1/4"
plywood used as stiffeners in the sides, went right through it no
problem...
About the same time I learned to sew I also started off on my cooking
career when my Mom would yell to me, "If you don't get out of bed you
are going to have to make your own breakfast..." Simple solution,
sleep in and learn to cook breakfast...
>Cheers,
>Volker,
>rather spending $100 for a tool instead of paying $10 for a shop-job.
IdaSeamster
Trailryder42
the 2000 ISF based out of Chemeketan CG, not Baumgartner like I
thought.
DT
>
> I'll see if I can dig up my old SpodeFest email list and send out a
> notice.
>
> >Mike S.
>
> DJ
The Real Bev
> "The Real Bev" <bashl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> KW wrote:
>>
>>> Not touching this one as I can truly and properly operate a sewing
>>> machine (do I get testosterone points back if 6 hours of said use on Dec
>>> 26, 2008 was for the sole purpose of attaching 50 bajillion patches to 3
>>> new Boy Scout uniforms?)
>>
>> Only if you use a Husqvarna sewing machine like mine.
>
> Actually one of the machine in Mom's stable *is* a Husky....but its a serger
> and way beyond my capacity to operate. Krap....lots testosterone points just
> for knowing what the frag a serger is I bet! :-)
Since your mom owns it and probably told you what it was, you get a pass on
this one.
A world-class ski adventurer bought an industrial sewing machine to make kites
that can pull riders over various sorts of terrain. You could probably use the
serger for something like that. Drogue chutes for dragsters, maybe...
--
Cheers, Bev
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The Real Bev
Curiously enough, I heard the word 'chesticles' used in a House episode from
season 4 or 5.
--
Cheers, Bev
========================================================
If I gave a shit, you'd be the first one I'd give it to.
The Real Bev
I'd be afraid to do something like that -- I like to always be able to undo
what I've done in case I did it wrong. This happens a lot because the damn
patterns always lie and my measurements are weird anyway.
> I did a seat for the Yomama DT 175 with the ex's serger. Very cool
> tool. Sewing machines are very cool too. Tools are cool, period. I
> want them all.
My Husky sewing machine has a real stump-pulling low hear, which I think is
cool. My grandma's treadle Singer, the machine I learned on, could sew through
leather.
The Real Bev
> *LOL* So I'm not the only one with some sewing experience? That soothes my
> conscience. I was already getting the impression that there's something
> wrong with me using a pussy machine to convert shrunken MX pants into
> knickerbockers or fabricate my own neoprene fork boots. Phew. Thanks for
> admitting.
I sewed an air cleaner for my son's KX250 using a hand needle and dental floss.
sturd
> *LOL* So I'm not the only one with some sewing experience?
Nope.
> I was already getting the impression that there's something
> wrong with me using a pussy machine to convert shrunken MX pants into
> knickerbockers or fabricate my own neoprene fork boots.
There is nothing wrong with making knickerbockers. There is
something wrong with wearing knickerbockers. Yikes.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/SirPendleton.jpg
The Real Bev
Those are definitely not Naughty Knickers.
--
Cheers, Bev
===================================================================
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can
only exist until a majority of voters discover that they can vote
themselves largess out of the public treasury."
-- Alexander Tytler (Unverified)
Tosk
@gmail.com says...
May be where Ray-Ray got it... Either way, it still gets most of the
team rolling on the ground every time someone brings it up, even the
women..;)
--
Wafa free again.
Tosk
@gmail.com says...
>
> Volker Bartheld wrote:
>
> > *LOL* So I'm not the only one with some sewing experience? That soothes my
> > conscience. I was already getting the impression that there's something
> > wrong with me using a pussy machine to convert shrunken MX pants into
> > knickerbockers or fabricate my own neoprene fork boots. Phew. Thanks for
> > admitting.
>
> I sewed an air cleaner for my son's KX250 using a hand needle and dental floss.
I mostly used mine to sew bungees and nylon webbing for the hardware in
boats I built...
--
Wafa free again.
IdaSpode
<dt...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Thanks for the email notice about this David. I just realized we had
>the 2000 ISF based out of Chemeketan CG, not Baumgartner like I
>thought.
I noticed that and was going to correct you but thought I'd let it
slide. Unlike myself, you must be getting older... <G>
Unlike myself, you must be getting older.
Unlike myself, you must be getting older.
Crap...
IdaDementiaBound
IdaSpode
<bashl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>A world-class ski adventurer bought an industrial sewing machine to make kites
>that can pull riders over various sorts of terrain. You could probably use the
>serger for something like that. Drogue chutes for dragsters, maybe...
My industrial machine is straight stitch only. All the Dacron sails on
the hang gliders were sewn with a zig-zag stitch, thankfully I never
could work on them. I believe they are done that way to minimize a
stress/weak line along the seams and to allow the sail to stretch and
move a bit as it is loaded during flight.
DJ
PrairieRider
historic military footwear (www.civilwarboots.com). I've been
enjoying the use of a variety of industrial machines including a
treadle machine with a sewing foot that changes directions rather than
having to move the material. Made myself a pair of street riding
boots and a pair of whole cut black wing tips for Jeff. Might make
myself a pair of tall ropers next. Some of his machines are close to
100 years old.
HellSickle
discussions of sewing equipment & "chesticles"?
Let's get back to ISF. I'll bring my generator so someone can run a
serger (yes, I've done that before).
Now, where did I put those knitting needles......
CJ, good to see you back in RMD. I agree about taking an entire week
for ISF. Driving 24 hours to ride for three days is insano.
IdaSpode
<jde...@comcast.net> wrote:
>C'mon ladies, have you realized that this thread has devolved into a
>discussions of sewing equipment & "chesticles"?
When I lived in Sun Valley in the early 80s, I came up with a term to
describe the typical local woman who was athletic, head strong and
rather aggressive: They weren't macho, they were twatcho...
>Let's get back to ISF. I'll bring my generator so someone can run a
>serger (yes, I've done that before).
If someone has a 220v gen set, I'll bring my MIG welder and some flux
core wire, remember, Tami will be there...
Bring your Spud Gun too, we can stand across that big meadow (in full
riding gear) and shoot each other.
IdaInstigator
Volker Bartheld
>> *LOL* So I'm not the only one with some sewing experience? That soothes my
>> conscience.
> I sewed an air cleaner for my son's KX250 using a hand needle and dental floss.
INSANE! Waxed or natural? ;-)
Cheers,
Vol"Now where's that OEM Zuki-filter again that fell apart after cleaning
in hot water...??"ker
Volker Bartheld
> There is nothing wrong with making knickerbockers. There is
> something wrong with wearing knickerbockers. Yikes.
Hmmmm. But they are extremely 1334 stuff from Sinisalo (made in China,
however. Those were the days when Sinisalo gear was proudly built in
Sweden...) and above 25�C, the evil knee-protector stink problem *) is
history.
Volker
*) I could sell the formula for using it as a self defense spray.
Unbearable. Makes the bigges boy cry like babies after having a sniff. ;-)
Volker Bartheld
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:20:42 -0700, IdaSpode wrote:
> Then when I was heavy into hang gliding and looking for a new harness,
> I couldn't find one I liked that seemed worth the $800 price tag. My
> solution was to spend $1000 on a compound walking foot, upholstery
> machine. [...]
> The machine will sew about anything I can stuff under the foot. One
> time I was repairing a seam on a friends attache case. I'm going
> along, going chink-chink-chink, then it went chunk-chunk-chunk a few
> times. Turns out I had sewn through the fabric and through the 1/4"
> plywood used as stiffeners in the sides, went right through it no
> problem...
Yessss! Now it's perfectly clear to me, how those italian guys sew the
padding stuff onto chest protectors. I always wondered if there's a tool
making it through 3mm of ABS plastics or even polycarbonate.
$1000 seems like an absolute bargain to me (how big is that beast?) - did
you buy a used one?
I have a Pfaff 1538 (about 5km on the ODO - how do you specify how much
cloth a sewing machine has seen?) which seems like a somehow bearable
compromise. Since it has the IDT (integrated dual transport) mechanism, it
works reasonable well with thicker stuff since the foot has a little
transporter thingy that aids the bottom transporter and makes sure, that
all layers stay together during the sewing process.
It'll handle about five layers of 1000DEN-Cordura (even Kevlar!) and - in
case of need - two sheets of neoprene. The main drawback is it's limitation
towards thick thread, the bottom capsule works with up to two times the
thickness of a normal sewing thread before starting to create loops.
Cost me about EUR500 which is cheaper than your upholstery machine but not
a lot. Hey - at least it can do some kind of "fake overlock" and various
zig-zag stitches that come quite handy for repairing MX gear after a biff.
> About the same time I learned to sew I also started off on my cooking
> career when my Mom would yell to me, "If you don't get out of bed you
> are going to have to make your own breakfast..." Simple solution,
> sleep in and learn to cook breakfast...
*LOL* I'm still in the practising phase. Meanwhile, I can do various kinds
of pasta without having it squished to a whitish pulp... ;-)
Volker
IdaSpode
<dr_ve...@freenet.de> wrote:
>Yessss! Now it's perfectly clear to me, how those italian guys sew the
>padding stuff onto chest protectors. I always wondered if there's a tool
>making it through 3mm of ABS plastics or even polycarbonate.
>
>$1000 seems like an absolute bargain to me (how big is that beast?) - did
>you buy a used one?
I bought it new in about 1983 or so. Looks like they still make/sell
the same model, I see it new & used from $1K - $1.4K:
http://spodefest.net/images/nakajima.jpg
>I have a Pfaff 1538 (about 5km on the ODO - how do you specify how much
>cloth a sewing machine has seen?) which seems like a somehow bearable
>compromise. Since it has the IDT (integrated dual transport) mechanism, it
>works reasonable well with thicker stuff since the foot has a little
>transporter thingy that aids the bottom transporter and makes sure, that
>all layers stay together during the sewing process.
That Pfaff is *much* more versatile although probably not quite as
heavy duty. The motor on the 280L is huge, spins at full RPM, foot
clutch engages the drive, knee operated foot lift, I think 180 is the
largest needle I have. It's an "industrial" duty machine, meaning it
is designed to run 24/7. In terms of it's intended life expectancy, I
have only taken it around the block a few times, barely broken in.
<snip>
>Volker
DJ
Volker Bartheld
>>[some snippage]
> That Pfaff is *much* more versatile although probably not quite as
> heavy duty.
Not at all as heavy duty, I would say...
> The motor on the 280L is huge, spins at full RPM, foot
> clutch engages the drive
To get a little OT again: Does it have an anti-hopping mechanism...? ;-)
Talking about clutches: I remember the lathe the metal worker's department
of the Max-Planck-Institute for Physiks had. It was a multi-gear,
stick-shift, manual-clutch, oil-cooled three-phase beast that could clamp a
15" aluminum car rim without the slightest problem.
Comes in very handy if you had a close contact with a curbstone or
something likewise. After seeing my talents (hey, I was studying physics
at that time, so it was quite unusual to have interests in grinding,
filing, sawing, drilling etc.) - the foreman sometimes "forgot" the key
for the electric cabinet/fuse box after calling it a day which allowed me
to build some of the neatest motorcyle parts ever.
But he kept saying "take care of the scalp curl" and nodded towards the
lathe. Rumour has it, that somebody lost quite a considerable amount of
hair by getting caught in that machine. And the dents in the ceiling,
obviously created by forgotten and slung away chuck-keys (is that the
correct technical term?) told their very own story.
And there was that drill press, three-phase driven naturally and for sure
several HP which walked through about anything - including your wrists if
the drill got caught into thin sheet metal and you weren't taking
appropriate care.
I'm still treating those machines with great reverence.
Next project could be a TIG welder. Hey, OK, I could braze stainless steel
and aluminum (I seem to remember that there was a quite controversial
thread about that topic in this group, *hrhr*) but that's for pussies. Mr.
Kausek (the foreman mentioned above) could literally reattach a pair of
broken fingernails with such a machine, incredible. 100% sure, I'm about
to take a steep and distressful learning curve here...
> knee operated foot lift, I think 180 is the
> largest needle I have. It's an "industrial" duty machine, meaning it
> is designed to run 24/7. In terms of it's intended life expectancy, I
> have only taken it around the block a few times, barely broken in.
*LOL* Second that. It's like my RMZ. Will probably also last forever. When
breaking it in, I put stickers on the throttle grip, indicating 50% and
75% (you are supposed to ride below 50% during the first turn, about 15
minutes, let cool down and then not more than 75% for the next one,
shifting through the gears frequently) - only to find out that
self-preservetion forbids exceeding 75% except for the little
blood-sweating slip-ups that happen occasionally. I'm still in break-in
phase 2, so to say... ;-)
But tools are cool. Period.
Buying them can be less than that. I remember wanting some replacement die
stock clamping bars ("Gewindeschneideisenhalterbacken" - hey, I love the
german language...) at our local shop. It was a terminology-nightmare. Die
stock vs. tap holder vs. tap wrench, you name it. It took me 1 hour to
explain the 50ct-part I wanted, making a total fool out of myself.
To top it off and just for fun (they wanted to go on lunch break), I asked
for advice on electric routers ("Oberfr�se"). I was almost lynched. ;-)
The whole story (german) here: www.bartheld.net/txt/kaplonski.txt
But tools are still cool. For example pneumatic pop rivet guns.
Cheers,
HellSickle
Now that a date seems to be set, I would like to raise the question of
scholarship. Any worth candidates out there? Someone who wouldn't
otherwise be able to attend? Should we drag Tiago out again?
-Jeff-
Volker Bartheld
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:22:36 -0800 (PST), HellSickle wrote:
> Now that a date seems to be set,
... which is? Whatever - anything beyond mid of next year unfortunately is
wayyy beyond my planning horizon. I would be glad just to be alive then.
> I would like to raise the question of scholarship. Any worth candidates
> out there?
Scholarship? Mmmmhm. I think, I could afford the flight. And I'm willing
to. But I'm afraid that neither the RMZ or the 620SC would go as
hand-luggage. So - if I BMORG (b_ring m_y o_wn r_iding g_ear) - would that
be allright? Do you have alligators and poisoned snakes, too, as they seem
to crawl around everywhere in Tiago-land? How many days would ISF be? Just
hopping over the big pond for a week-end w/o some sightseeing would be a
big shame.
> Someone who wouldn't otherwise be able to attend?
You could turn in petition to my bosses. Tell them, I need to advertise
infrared technology and tie new contacts, blah-blah, yada-yada.
> Should we drag Tiago out again?
*LOL* Hey - I won't come if he's not in. That's a fact. I need to show him
how my MX-experience ...ummm... "spurred" my enduro skillz.
Cheers,
Volker "Wo der BARThELd den Most holt"...
Wudsracer
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I could bring a couple of extra bikes with me. (One for Tiago and one
for Volker)
I got a "new to me" 7x14 Wells Cargo recently, so it shouldn't be a
big problem. Two or three in the truck, and four in the trailer.
(I was already planning on bringing the Pampera 280, '94 FE350
Husaberg, '04 GG EC300, '06 GG DE300. That leaves room for Scrape's
bike(s), and maybe Spodely's.)
I'd like to meet you in person, Volker, and I'd really like to see
any party with Tiago again.
August 2010, Idaho; be there!
Jim
Wudsracer/Jim Cook
Smackover Racing
'06 Gas Gas DE300
'82 Husqvarna XC250
Team LAGNAF
Wudsracer
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>On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:51:37 -0800, The Real Bev <bashl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>My Husky sewing machine has a real stump-pulling low hear, which I think is
>cool. My grandma's treadle Singer, the machine I learned on, could sew through
>leather.
>
>--
>Cheers, Bev
>========================================================
>If I gave a shit, you'd be the first one I'd give it to.
*************************************************
I did my first sewing on an antique treadle Singer, which I got going
by lubing, finding a drive belt, and adjusting the mechanism to obtain
desired stitching results.
It worked great for patching jeans and sewing all those flowery
patches back in '71 & '72.
Lately, I haven't been able to even get a good hem on some too-long
Shift Recon riding pants, using a modern Singer.
The treadle machine was easier for me to use.
The Real Bev
> ***************************************************
>>On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:51:37 -0800, The Real Bev <bashl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>My Husky sewing machine has a real stump-pulling low hear, which I think is
>>cool. My grandma's treadle Singer, the machine I learned on, could sew through
>>leather.
>
> I did my first sewing on an antique treadle Singer, which I got going
> by lubing, finding a drive belt, and adjusting the mechanism to obtain
> desired stitching results.
> It worked great for patching jeans and sewing all those flowery
> patches back in '71 & '72.
>
> Lately, I haven't been able to even get a good hem on some too-long
> Shift Recon riding pants, using a modern Singer.
> The treadle machine was easier for me to use.
I have an older electric Singer (195x, maybe) that's almost as good as
Grandma's machine. Heavy black, no zigzag, just a stitch-length adjustment and
the usual tension adjustments.
The Husqvarna has a number of fancy stitches and oilite bearings, for which I
had theretofore had much contempt. I emailed a Viking distributor asking about
how to oil the machine ($3 at an estate sale) and it blew my mind when she said
it wasn't necessary. It hadn't been used for a long time and ran very slowly
at first, but sped up after a while. I got a set of attachments for it for a
buck at an Armenian rummage sale.
I'd use it more if I had a good place to use it and if it weren't at the bottom
of the stack of boxes from my mom's condo that I should really deal with pretty
soon now.
--
Cheers, Bev
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Bender: And so I ask you this one question: Have you ever tried simply
turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
SloCalSpode
SpodeFest. Since Tiago had some Visa issues for a while.
I got a $100 I'll put towards a proper and deserving SPODE
scholarship candidate. Maybe we can support two folks this time.
SloCalSpode
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Volker Bartheld
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:17:39 -0600, Wudsracer wrote:
> I could bring a couple of extra bikes with me. (One for Tiago and one for
> Volker) [...] August 2010, Idaho; be there!
August 2010? Idaho? Abusing Wudsracer's bikes...? ;-) Keeps getting better
and better! That would allow bringing my GF (highschool-teacher, holidays,
you know the story), along - if "chixx who ride" are tolerated...? It'll
take a while to persuade her - as it did when we went to Turkey early this
year for some offroad fun (see [1] for a few impressions) - but after some
whining, she'll be in, I think.
Cheers,
Volker
[1]
http://picasaweb.google.com/picturepaparazzo/WinterfluchtAntalyaVolker?authkey=Gv1sRgCOC6qJXjqZPBGQ
http://picasaweb.google.com/picturepaparazzo/WinterfluchtAntalyaSonke?authkey=Gv1sRgCOyjh8eWuf62lwE
Dean H
>
> I'd use it more if I had a good place to use it and if it weren't at the bottom
That is the case with so many of my tools and toys for the last
several years.
It's a frustrating way to fritter away one's creative time on the
planet.
I really want to fix that soon.
I always think back to the title of some whacky short story from
school daze:
A Clean And Well-lit Place.
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
HardWorkingDog
Volker Bartheld <dr_ve...@freenet.de> wrote:
Great photos!
I do wonder how you load the bikes on that orange moto-truck. A winch?
A 10 meter-long ramp?
--
Charles
'99 YZ250