Air: How to do faded decals?
RC Boater
to try for the faded OD look that was so common on well-used aircraft.
I'm thinking I'll airbrush the model in OD, and then lighten the color a
little and sort of mist it on the horizontal surfaces. (I use Pollyscale
acrylics, if it matters.)
I'm sorta stumped about what to do with the decals. How do I get the wing
stars and bars to stay consistent with the paded paint look? I'm afraid it
isn't going to look right is the wings look faded compared to the vertical
sides oif the fuselage, but the markings all look the same....
Any ideas?
TIA!
-Bill
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Mike
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> I'm sorta stumped about what to do with the decals. How do I get the wing
> stars and bars to stay consistent with the paded paint look?
Paint them on, they're not very difficult compared to some national insignias.
If you would rather use decals then you can spray a tinted clearcoat over them,
a light gray usually works best in most circumstances but I've used other
colours for different effects with certain paint schemes. Just make sure you
remove any of the surrounding clear carrier film if you paint the decal before
applying it or you'll be able to see it once it's applied. Also, if you weather
the model after applying the decals they often blend in quite well even without
doing anything specific to them.
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jerry 47
an IPMS meeting. One of the guys told me it looked odd with the national
insignia and tail cross being pristine white. He suggested I crush up some
pastel chalk, wet the decals lightly, and then dry brush the chalk over the
igsignia. I used a sort of greenish chalk to do this. When I was done, the
insignia looked just as worn as the paint job. It was great.
Jerry 47
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RC Boater
chalks I picked up at the arts and crafts store, for use in learning to use
them when weathering models. I have a whole set, so there's bound to be
something close in color!
-Bill
Maybe some day I can return the favor with advice about USCG red-orange<g>
(See the thread with that title...)
"jerry 47" <gaho...@hiwaay.net> wrote in message
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> One way is to use pastel chalk. I did a weathered Cant Z1007 and took it
to
> an IPMS meeting. One of the guys told me it looked odd with the national
> insignia and tail cross being pristine white. He suggested I crush up
some
> pastel chalk, wet the decals lightly, and then dry brush the chalk over
the
> igsignia. I used a sort of greenish chalk to do this. When I was done,
the
> insignia looked just as worn as the paint job. It was great.
> Jerry 47
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Stephen Tontoni
painted the plane OD, apply the decals as usual and then give the plane
a very light spraying of thinned OD right over the decals. They'll fade
in. This is something you can overdo very easily, so I suggest VERY
STRONGLY that you experiment on something you dont' care about first. It
really really works, but you can't have any splatter or it'll screw it
up.
Have fun out there.
In article <tEzu9.6347$6F4.5...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
"RC Boater" <bill...@remove.earthlink.net> wrote:
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Stephen Tontoni <ton...@mindspring.com>
Greg Heilers
> Model railroaders have been doing this for years and years. If you
> painted the plane OD, apply the decals as usual and then give the plane
> a very light spraying of thinned OD right over the decals. They'll fade
> in. This is something you can overdo very easily, so I suggest VERY
> STRONGLY that you experiment on something you dont' care about first. It
> really really works, but you can't have any splatter or it'll screw it
> up.
>
> Have fun out there.
>
>
[Greg Heilers adds:]
To explain further, mix a few drops of your OD paint into an amount of clear
flat, in order to make an "OD glaze". Spray this (sparingly) over the
decals.
Terry Sumner
Terry Sumner
JC Hayes
JC Hayes
Mike
Of course, I've tried using the same colours as the model is painted but it
doesn't look right, especially if there is white in the decal. As example, OD
turns the white slightly green whereas gray just makes it look dirty and more
subdued. White works just as well though it's more noticeable but obviously
doesn't affect the white in the decal that much.
Greg Heilers
> JC Hayes wrote:
>
>> Even over a green base ?
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>> JC Hayes
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>>>I've done this, but I use gray as the color. It's neutral.
>>>
>>>Terry Sumner
>>>
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> Of course, I've tried using the same colours as the model is painted but
> it
> doesn't look right, especially if there is white in the decal. As example,
> OD turns the white slightly green whereas gray just makes it look dirty
> and more subdued. White works just as well though it's more noticeable but
> obviously doesn't affect the white in the decal that much.
>
>
>
>
[Greg Heilers adds:]
True, it will give the white a slightly greenish tint, but this is hardly
"obvious". The human eye/brain combination will pick up the fact that it
is 'weathered', without immediately noticing that it is "green". Take a
careful study of classic paintings, by classic artists, and you will notice
all sorts of "goofy" colors being used, in places and situations, that do
not seem appropriate.....remember, modeling, like painting on canvas,
relies on "tricks".
Plus, consider that weathering of markings also entails the markings eroding
away, and the underlying color coats to show through. In this case, the OD
would be entirely appropriate.
Mike
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> True, it will give the white a slightly greenish tint, but this is hardly
> "obvious". The human eye/brain combination will pick up the fact that it
> is 'weathered', without immediately noticing that it is "green".
My brain must work differently. I found that it was only not noticeable when I
applied a very very light coat which of course negated the overall effect. As I
said it's only SLIGHTLY noticeable but enough to bother me.
>
> Plus, consider that weathering of markings also entails the markings eroding
> away, and the underlying color coats to show through. In this case, the OD
> would be entirely appropriate.
>
It may be an easy way simulate this but I don't find it gives a realistic
effect, the decal still looks too fresh(for a lack...) to be showing any
underlying colours, you usually see brush strokes and inconsistent fading before
the underlying colour shows through(unless the marking is actually some sort of
decal). The only way I've found to truly capture this effect is to paint on the
markings which obviously can often be very difficult. Of course with more
extreme weathering like scrapes or flaking, painting over the decal can work.