weathering with chalks

[Kurt Laughlin]

> I just picked up my set of Alphacolor Pastel chalks and a can of
> Fixatif.

I took a drawing class last summer. The teacher said that Aqua Net hair
spray was as good or better than the commercial fixatives. In either case,
I don't think you want to use it on a model. Try on some junk kit first.
Most people just leave it raw and fix the model to a base.

KL

[Forest Dalton]

Ooh no, hair spray might be a good fixative for pastels on heavy art paper
or canvas, but not on polystyrene plastic. The stuff will dry, crack, and
peel, not to mention yellow. I have learned many great modeling tips from my
two-dementional artist friends, but hair spray ain't one of them. DO NOT USE
THIS!!

Caz Dalton, IPMS #34765

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[Mike]

Forest Dalton wrote:
>
> I have learned many great modeling tips from my
> two-dementional artist friends, but hair spray ain't one of them. DO NOT USE
> THIS!!

What about gel?

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[Don_JV44]

I've had real bad luck with all fixatives that I've tried, including regular
dull-coat. Any light color pastels seem to just vanish when sprayed. I've
never understood what happens but an example is tires... I'll get them all
dusty and sooty looking and as soon as I spray them they turn black again.

Dark colors seem to work OK. Smoke streaks and the likes don't seem to
vanish.

Lately I've just taken to leaving the chalk on the plane and not spraying
it. Just be sure to handle it carefully.

If anyone has a good way to 'fix' light color chalk please let me know.

Don

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Paul Hetherington <paul-het...@cableinet.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> Scott Clinton wrote:
>
> I have never used chalks in weathing models before but I really like the
>
> effects I have seen others do.

> I just picked up my set of Alphacolor Pastel chalks and a can of
> Fixatif.

> I have a vague idea of how to go about this any pointers on applying the
> chalks
> (I have some foam tip applicators and extra brushes), blending colors,
> etc?
>
> I find the best way to apply chalks for things like smoke staining is to
> use a grey/white colour applied over a matt finish and brushed lightly
> on in a circular motion using a large no 4 or 5 soft brush in several
> layers.This eliminates the harsh streaking effect which , frankly,
> doesnt look realistic. Obviously the more smoke you want the more layers
> you apply.
> For normal streaking, ie. wear and tear, brush in the airstream
> direction on select areas in a colour first, just slightly darker and
> then secondly, lighter than the base colour.
>
> Good luck on your first attempt!
>
> Paul H
>
>
>
>

[Jonathan O'Connor]

It's the optics involved.
JO'C

[Forest Dalton]

Mike <gre...@lunaticfringe.org> wrote in message
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> What about gel?

LOL!!! I guess I shouldn't knock a fellow modeling disciple trying to find
his way about the hobby, but I couldn't resist the lack of shear common
sense that someone would even consider hair spray, which IMHO is FUTURE with
an sticky attitude.

Caz Dalton, IPMS #34765