What makes a tank "male" or "female"? Answered
TankBu...@yahoo.ca
Someone asked in another thread, "What makes a tank "male" or
"female"?". I did not want the OP's thread to get hijacked so decided
to answer that question here.
WW1 British tanks were of three main types:
MALE = 6 ponder guns in each of the side sponsons
Female = machine guns in the side sponsons, no large caliber guns like
the MALEs
Hermaphodite = 6 pounder gun in one side sponson and machiine guns in
the other.
Tactics included the MALEs running in and turring parrel to the
trenchs and using their 5 poujnders whilst the FEMALES gave
suppressing fire with their machineguns.
There were experiments with longer tanks for crossing wider trenches
but these tanks were not manouverable enough.
There were also experiments with tanks carrying a mortar between the
tracks at the rear. This was not very successful.
Based on this close support role for the tanks British post-war tanks
evolved into two types the heavilly armoured Infantry Tank wit a top
speed equal to that of a running infantryman and the Cruiser Tank
which was lightly armoured and was seen as a replacement for the
Cavalry. This Cruiser designation is why most WW2 British tank names
started with a C. If the name, such as Matilda, started with a letter
other than a C it was an Infantry support tank. Later in the war
British tanks sought to combine the two duties but the kept the C
designation which why the latest British tank name, the Challenger,
still starts with a C. The odd exceptikon to this seems to be the WW2
Churchill tank which was really an infantry support tank. I trhink
that it was the first British designed tank that was envisioned to
fullfil both roles. Other WW2 British Cruiser tanks were the Crusader,
the Cromwell and the Centaur and the Coventer. The last WW2 British
tank was the Centurion and was followed after the war by the Cieftan
and then the Challenger.
Cheers from Peter
rwalker
>Hi there.
>
>Someone asked in another thread, "What makes a tank "male" or
>"female"?". I did not want the OP's thread to get hijacked so decided
>to answer that question here.
>
>WW1 British tanks were of three main types:
>
>MALE = 6 ponder guns in each of the side sponsons
>
>Female = machine guns in the side sponsons, no large caliber guns like
>the MALEs
snip
Thanks for a very informative answer.
Nigel Heather
whilst the 'Male' had phallic 6 pounder guns. The hermaphrodite had both a
hole and a phallus.
Cheers,
Nigel
Wulf Corbett
>WW1 British tanks were of three main types:
>
>MALE = 6 ponder guns in each of the side sponsons
>
>Female = machine guns in the side sponsons, no large caliber guns like
>the MALEs
>
>Hermaphrodite = 6 pounder gun in one side sponson and machine guns in
>the other.
I've always had one question about this, maybe you (or someone else
here) can answer - were all hermaphrodites of the same orientation
(cannon to Port, MG to Starboard, or vice versa - in WW1 they were
called landships, so the naval reference is suitable)?
I'd imagine they would be, since otherwise there would be trouble with
some turning one way and some another to train the cannon on the
enemy, and running into one another!
Here's a question - when the Native Americans surrounded the wagon
trains and circled around shooting arrows into the middle, what
happened to the left-handed warriors?
Wulf
kim
They rode facing backwards!
According to folkelore the left-handers did everything else backwards too,
"contraries" they were supposedly called.
(kim)
Wulf Corbett
>> Here's a question - when the Native Americans surrounded the wagon
>> trains and circled around shooting arrows into the middle, what
>> happened to the left-handed warriors?
>
>They rode facing backwards!
What I heard was that lefties were considered odd enough that they
became medicine men/shamans, and never did the 'circling the wagon
train' bit - assuming anyone ever did, and it's not just a Hollywood
invention!
Wulf
Richard Brooks
> According to folkelore the left-handers did everything else backwards too,
> "contraries" they were supposedly called.
>
> (kim)
At least that's polite! In heraldic terms, the left hand side of the
shield is 'sinister'.
Mad Modeller
But we have the last laugh. Since the right hemisphere of the brain
controls the left side of the body (and vice versa) we lefties are the
only humans truly in our right minds.
Bill "Sinister" Banaszak, MFE Sr.
:)
som...@some.domain
som...@some.domain
i always use the closer hand. you know, ambiwhosis?
Jack Bohn
>In article <492A2D37...@nextline.com>, vze3...@verizon.net wrote:
>>Richard Brooks wrote:
>>>
>>> kim said the following on 23/11/2008 15:06:
>>>
>>> > According to folkelore the left-handers did everything else backwards too,
>>> > "contraries" they were supposedly called.
>>>
>>> At least that's polite! In heraldic terms, the left hand side of the
>>> shield is 'sinister'.
>>
>>But we have the last laugh. Since the right hemisphere of the brain
>>controls the left side of the body (and vice versa) we lefties are the
>>only humans truly in our right minds.
>>:)
>and what about us superior entities who use either hand for anything?
>i always use the closer hand. you know, ambiwhosis?
Amphibious.
--
-Jack
Richard Brooks
I dunno though! It sounds more of a fun name, a bit 'gauche' perhaps
but fun nontheless. I'm just surprised that the neo-Nazi crowd
haven't come up with a reason to point at the usual crowd they blame
and find that their victims to be all left-handed.
Richard Brooks
> In article <492A2D37...@nextline.com>, vze3...@verizon.net wrote:
>> Richard Brooks wrote:
>>> kim said the following on 23/11/2008 15:06:
>>>
>>>> According to folkelore the left-handers did everything else backwards too,
>>>> "contraries" they were supposedly called.
> and what about us superior entities who use either hand for anything?
> i always use the closer hand. you know, ambiwhosis?
Only both hands? BTW, never cook naked!
R. Franklin
I'll second that. Those grease spatters really hurt....
som...@some.domain
that mortar platform was plain stupid. but it looks so cool on a finished
kit....
som...@some.domain
som...@some.domain
i wish the christian hell existed just so he could be there. ah, the
summabitch would probably like it.
best hald hour of tv was edward r murrow destroying mcarthy.
som...@some.domain
som...@some.domain
som...@some.domain
Mad-Modeller
Schizophrenic?
Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Mad-Modeller
I just read in "Wild West" magazine about Bill Hickok. He usually drew
both revolvers simultaneously and could accurately shoot with both hands.
I'd probably drop the right gun and blow my foot off. ;]
Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
kim
Bisexual.
(kim)
OM
>>> and what about us superior entities who use either hand for anything?
>>> i always use the closer hand. you know, ambiwhosis?
>>
>> Schizophrenic?
>
>Bisexual.
...Only if the tank goes both ways.
OM
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som...@some.domain
i can shoot with both hands but only aim one. he must have had a very peculair
brain.
som...@some.domain
we are not! neither of me!
som...@some.domain
kim
> I just read in "Wild West" magazine about Bill Hickok. He usually
> drew both revolvers simultaneously and could accurately shoot with
> both hands.
I heard that for his travelling show the revolvers were loaded with buckshot
so could hardly miss. Likewise Annie Oakley's rifle.
(kim)
The Old Man
And I remember reading that he preferred a cross-over draw, i.e his
pistols were mounted backwards and he'd reach across his belt buckle
to grab them.
And he looked nothing like Guy Madison.......
Mad-Modeller
I remember when "Lonesome Dove" was on the air that an article about it
mentioned the butt-first position of nearly all the characters' weapons.
It was stated that that was more normal than what we usually saw in the
movies.
And right about now I wish I had some of the old Madison TV show on
tape. Back in the early '80s I remember it being on the Family Channel
but we had no cable nor a VCR. I had to wait for the ex to leave before
I got either. ;)
Incidentally, Hickok's favourite firearms were Navy Colts converted to
handle cartridges.
Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Westerns fan
OM
<checkr...@nextline.com> wrote:
>Incidentally, Hickok's favourite firearms were Navy Colts converted to
>handle cartridges.
...Bah, nothing compared to the Rifleman's quick-action rifle or the
custom black pistol of Paladin!
The Old Man
> On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 23:40:26 -0500, Mad-Modeller
>
> >Incidentally, Hickok's favourite firearms were Navy Colts converted to
> >handle cartridges.
>
> ...Bah, nothing compared to the Rifleman's quick-action rifle or the
> custom black pistol of Paladin!
>
> OM
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The next time you watch John Wayne's Stagecoach, you'll notice that
he's carryig that same rifle......
Mad-Modeller
Except for Ford's Cavalry Trilogy, I think Wayne carried the same rifle
in every Western he made after Stagecoach. I'd have to watch them all
again to be sure. I'll gladly volunteer to do so. :)
Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Gray Ghost
VrVLna_UnZ2d...@dejazzd.com:
I bought a Winchester carbine with the Large Loop Lever. I really think it's
a movie thing unless you have really big hands and/or thick gloves. I did not
find it particularly easy to operate, way to much slop in the hand/lever
contact. Replaced with a standard lever. Works great.
--
Always remember:
Bull Connor was a Democrat!
Wulf Corbett
<wu...@wulf.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>Hermaphrodite = 6 pounder gun in one side sponson and machine guns in
>>the other.
>
>I've always had one question about this, maybe you (or someone else
>here) can answer - were all hermaphrodites of the same orientation
So, I guess no-one actually has an answer?
Wulf
Gray Ghost
news:5mo5j49k290sf7ncv...@4ax.com:
It wasn't a technical term. It was just code to refer to cannon armed (male)
versus MG armed (female ).
Cannons ... phalluses. Get it?
Wulf Corbett
(Gray Ghost) wrote:
>>>>Hermaphrodite = 6 pounder gun in one side sponson and machine guns in
>>>>the other.
>>>
>>>I've always had one question about this, maybe you (or someone else
>>>here) can answer - were all hermaphrodites of the same orientation
>>>(cannon to Port, MG to Starboard, or vice versa)?
>>
>> So, I guess no-one actually has an answer?
>It wasn't a technical term. It was just code to refer to cannon armed (male)
>versus MG armed (female ).
I meant an answer to MY question, quoted above, about Hermaphrodites.
Wulf
Gray Ghost
That I do not know, I imagine you could have sound tactical reasons for
either configuration. Techncially there would no difference.