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earthy

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Jan 30, 2007, 10:42:58 PM1/30/07
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Hi I am really really new to knowing airbrush. Doesnt even have an
airbrush yet as I dont know which type to get and how to even use it -
never seen one before except in pictures. I would like to get an
affordable airbrush if possible without a compressor (compressor is
expensive) and easy to clean. My purpose of getting an airbrush is
for nail art.
I have read here and there did some research but all of them just
making me even more confused as I really BLANK here and on the
websites I only saw a few models that are suitable for nail art but I
was confused as too many brands.
sorry for the inconvenience and thanks in advance.

Pip Moss

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Jan 30, 2007, 11:58:53 PM1/30/07
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in article 1170214978.1...@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, earthy at
cecil...@gmail.com wrote on 1/30/07 10:42 PM:

What exactly is nail art? Art on fingernails? Art on 3-penny nails? What are
your specific airbrush needs for this activity? Tell us more.

Don't reject the idea of a compressor. You can get a perfectly adequate one
for less than $80, and you'll end up spending more on canned air over the
long haul.
Pip Moss

earthy

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Jan 31, 2007, 12:23:34 AM1/31/07
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Yes it is for fingernails. I will need an airbrush with really fine
nozzle as I will be drawing on my own nails.
If I need to get a compressor what brand do I need to get?

I went to Iwata website and search airbrushe that is suitable for nail
art:
the two below use compressor
HP-AH
HP-BH
the ones below doesnt use compressor
HP A Plus
HP B Plus

the problem is I dont even know what brand to get. Iwata website is
one of the most helpful ones that help me to understand about
airbrushing.
I am sorry to get you confused. All I am looking is that an airbrush
for me so that I am able to draw fines lines and something that is
easy to clean.

thanks


On Jan 31, 5:58 pm, Pip Moss <pnm...@comcast.net> wrote:
> in article 1170214978.177896.245...@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, earthy at
> cecilia...@gmail.com wrote on 1/30/07 10:42 PM:

Kevin(Bluey)

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Jan 31, 2007, 2:51:26 AM1/31/07
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They all require compressed air to operate which is what a compressor
will give you.Never seen an airbrush work with out it.

--
Kevin (Bluey)
"I'm not young enough to know everything."

blu...@west.net.com.au

Bobby Galvez

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Jan 31, 2007, 7:06:39 AM1/31/07
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earthy wrote:

Yes it is for fingernails. I will need an airbrush with really fine
nozzle as I will be drawing on my own nails.
If I need to get a compressor what brand do I need to get?

I went to Iwata website and search airbrushe that is suitable for nail
art:
the two below use compressor
HP-AH
HP-BH
the ones below doesnt use compressor
HP A Plus
HP B Plus

the problem is I dont even know what brand to get. Iwata website is
one of the most helpful ones that help me to understand about
airbrushing.
I am sorry to get you confused. All I am looking is that an airbrush
for me so that I am able to draw fines lines and something that is
easy to clean.

thanks

I took a quick look at DixieArt. They are airbrush specialists. Take a look at this, the second one from the top of the page:

http://www.dixieart.com/Paasche_Specialty_Brushes.html#Paasche_Nail

It seems to be exactly what you're looking for.

Give DixieArt a call and ask what compressor would go best with it. My guess is that a small one will do. Canned air gets real expensive.

They have this compressor:

http://www.dixieart.com/Iwata_Silver_Jet_Air_Compressor.html

Good luck!

BobbyG
 
 

Rob van Riel

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Jan 31, 2007, 7:22:01 AM1/31/07
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On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 21:23:34 -0800, earthy wrote:

> Yes it is for fingernails. I will need an airbrush with really fine
> nozzle as I will be drawing on my own nails.
> If I need to get a compressor what brand do I need to get?

You will need compressed air (or other gas) is some form; without it no
airbrush will work. Financially, a compressor is an efficient way to do
this, but there might be other considerations. Compressors are typically
large, heavy, and noisy while operating (but note that better quality
compressors have an air tank, which means the compressor itself isn't
necessarily running while you paint). If you intend to do your painting
away from home, you'll have to look into a different air supply for that.

In general, any airbrush can be hooked up to either a compressor or a can,
its just a matter of getting the right attachments for it. A canned air
attachment is typically available from wherever you get the airbrush, and
should you choose to buy a compressor, the required attachments tend to be
available where you buy that. Just take the airbrush along and tell them
you need to hook it up to a compressor.

More important in your case would be the size of the nozzle and needle on
the airbrush. By the sound of it, you need the smallest size you can find.
The way the airbrush is controlled will also be very important. You'll
certainly need a so called double action airbrush, but which one works
best in this respect is very personal; the feel of the airbrush needs to
match your fingers. If at all possible, go to a place where there are lots
of airbrushes, and try a few to get the feel. Even without actually
shooting paint out of the brush you can get some idea.


All that aside, is there anyone you could call on for a demonstration of
airbrushing in general, and nailpainting in particular? We can all type
our fingers off here, and still not give you as good an idea of just
what's involved in airbrushing as an hour's worth of looking over someone
shoulder will. Maybe an artists store could provide a demonstration, or
maybe a local modelling club.

Rob

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Jan 31, 2007, 9:12:57 AM1/31/07
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Unfortunately, a compressor is pretty much a requirement. While some
brushes will operate on cans of gas, there is no way to hold or
regulate the pressure coming from these cans. As you use them for
more than a second or two, they chill rapidly, lowering the pressure.
A constant, particular pressure is needed for good airbrushing. There
are compressors available for under a hundred bucks. Figure the cost
of an airbrush is the cost of the brush AND a compressor. Sometimes
the cheapest compressors do not include a way to change the pressure.
An outboard pressure regulator is required on these- they can be
obtained for as little as ten bucks at some hardware surplus places.

The other big thing about an airbrush- you have to learn how to use
them. It is like the directions to Carnagie hall- practice, practice,
practices. Do not use them on a good model project for getting
started- practice on scrap plastic or a poor kit.

Woody

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Feb 3, 2007, 11:34:36 PM2/3/07
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Iwata's are very nice air brushes but they are high end and pricey. If
you are looking for something affordable then Iwata is probably not the
brand to get.

The type of airbrush you want is a double action airbrush with gravity
feed. This will allow you the control you need, and also the feed
mechanism won't get in the way. Actually I wouldn't worry about being
able to get a fine line right now. You will most likely be using
stencils starting out. It takes a lot of practice to be able to brush
very fine lines.

At the bottom of this page are some airbrush items for nail art.

http://www.dixieart.com/Tattoo_and_Body_Art.html

I just ordered some airbrush stuff form them, and I highly recommend them.

Another source for compressors is automotive parts stores. They will
have compressors with an air tank for under $100. The main drawback is
that these compressors are rather loud.

Woody

Bob Bush

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Feb 23, 2007, 9:47:48 AM2/23/07
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I'd suggest Iwata. Sure its more expensive, but then sometimes you just
have to bite the bullet if you want something that will last. Make sure
you check around for prices. My first Iwata was less than the Aztec. I
only spent about $75 at a discount art supply store, and the Aztec had been
around $100. I've got an Aztec, and a Badger in addition to 2 Iwatas. I
only use the Iwatas.

A compressor is a must. The air cans are a real waste of money. I've got
a Craftsman compressor, with a 30 gallon tank on it. Yeah, its loud when
it first starts, but with the tank size, it might only start up again for
15-30 seconds once a session (if I'm really messing around).

Bob


Hello Woody,

C.R. Krieger

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Feb 23, 2007, 1:22:52 PM2/23/07
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On Feb 23, 8:47 am, Bob Bush <rkbus...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> A compressor is a must. The air cans are a real waste of money.

No, guys, a compressor is NOT a 'must', and air cans are NOT the only
alternative. Certainly not for the amount of air that this poster
will likely be using. For years, I used an air tank with a regulator
screwed on it. ISTR it was about $20 at a local store and another $15
for the regulator (which I still use on my airbrush compressor). I
also used it for autocross tire pressure adjustments since I could
toss it in the trunk and take it anywhere. I'd use either a local gas
station that had free air or, after I got one, a cheap noisy air
compressor to fill it outside in the garage or somewhere else where
noise wasn't an issue.

In fact, given that this will probably be in a manicure shop
environment, I wouldn't even want the noise of an airbrush compressor,
making a 5- to 10-gallon tank possibly the best solution for air
pressure.

As for the airbrush itself, I can't believe everyone has so little
regard for (or at least has managed to ignore or overlook) the widely
available Paasche products. An H model single action brush was my
first one and it is still my favorite.
--
C.R. Krieger
(Been there; done that)

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