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Lance Taylor

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Mar 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/10/99
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Okay, the "Handyman's Secret Weapon".. fess up. Who's used it in/for
construction or repair! Just curious! *LOL*

Anybody ever build a "duct tape rocket yet".. been thinking about this one
for a while!

http://www.ioweb.com/redgreen/tapeideas.html

Or view the offical Red Green homepage!

http://www.redgreen.com/

Lance Taylor
Edmonton, Alberta
Canada
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WillCarney

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Mar 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/10/99
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>Okay, the "Handyman's Secret Weapon"..
>fess up. Who's used it in/for construction or
>repair! Just curious! *LOL*
>
>Anybody ever build a "duct tape rocket
>yet".. been thinking about this one for a
>while!

I have not used it for rockets yet but have
on body work for my old IH Scout. I was
thinking about wraping a paper towel roll
with duct tape for a rocket.
Keep'em flying.


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Try helping other's instead of hurting them.
Instead of fighting over an inch of ground
lets move out into space & live in peace.
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Balthezar

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Lance Taylor wrote:

>Anybody ever build a "duct tape rocket yet

Our Prefect has a minimum diameter bird that has probably more duct tape than
cardboard on/in it. He regularly flies it on J350's.
--
Bruce Kirchner
TRA L1 #5888 NAR #69850
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Jay Ward

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Lance Taylor wrote:
>
> Okay, the "Handyman's Secret Weapon".. fess up. Who's used it in/for
> construction or repair! Just curious! *LOL*

I've used it to do quick field repairs of small zippers. I've also used
it to repair my LOC Starburst, a 2.6" BT with a couple of wrinkles in it
from a lawn dart when only one motor lit.

Not pretty, but functional.

--
Jay Ward, KE4ZOG, TRA # 5725, L2, IAR #68
Father, Husband, Brewer, Rocket Scientist <G>
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Bob Kaplow

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In article <fmmF2.2079$rU5....@news.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com>, "Lance Taylor" <lan...@home.com> writes:
> Okay, the "Handyman's Secret Weapon".. fess up. Who's used it in/for
> construction or repair! Just curious! *LOL*

Forgot 2 more things. While recently browsing a book store, looking for
Rocket Boys, I found a series of books something like "101 uses for Duct
Tape". They've even expanded to WD-40.

Then there's the Doonesbury strip from a few years ago that has stuck in my
mind. Duke is running "Orphans R Us". The inspector is checking his
supplies, and down in the basement are nothing but pallets of duct tape.
Duke says something like "There's no child behavior problem that can't be
fixed with Duct Tape".

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Ctrl-Alt-Del"

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Bob Kaplow

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In article <fmmF2.2079$rU5....@news.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com>, "Lance Taylor" <lan...@home.com> writes:
> Okay, the "Handyman's Secret Weapon".. fess up. Who's used it in/for
> construction or repair! Just curious! *LOL*
>
> Anybody ever build a "duct tape rocket yet".. been thinking about this one
> for a while!

NARAM-25 held Super Scale, where you have to build a rocket and launcher. I
entered what to the best of my knowledge is the only scale model ever built
of the Conestoga-1, the first private rocket to fly in space. Since this was
in the days B.A. (Before Alway and his books), I had to research the data
myself. I contacted the company that flew the rocket, their prime
contractor, and several other places to get all the data. It makes me
appreciate all the work that went into Peter's book.

At any rate, the launcher was what is refered to as a Milk Stool launcher,
and there was this tall orange umbilical pole next to the rocket. I was not
able to get any drawings of the launcher in time, so had to photo interpret
everything for dimensions. On the orange pole were several grey stripes,
that scaled to about 2". When I called and spoke to the lady, I asked if
this was Duct Tape. She said, in as much of a southern (Houston) accent as
is possible, "Sir, we call that ROCKET tape".

So, it's used on the real things. And anyone who has seen my Happy Meals
will realize that after almost 100 flights, there is more duct tape on them
than there is plastic.

Jay Stoll

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My favorite duct tape tidbit was a slang name I heard for it:

The Force - It has a dark side and light side, and it holds the universe together.

Jay

Bill Guy

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It was a little bit before I joined MARS, but,
I've heard that someone (John Ritz, maybe)
finished a "Flying Pyramid of Death"
(Tetrahedron) but taping it up with Duct Tape.


"Duct Tape" is like "the FOrce" in Star Wars:
It has a "Light side" and a "Dark Side,"
And it binds the Universe together,

"Trust your Feelings, Fluke,
And if you can't be good, be careful."
- Augie Ben Doggie
_Hardware Wars_

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Mike Burch

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I am going to use duct tape to make a nice "zipperless" mercury space
suit for that cat that I have been thinking about sending skyward since
3rd or 4th grade :-) Mike

Memphis Pete

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Bob Kaplw wrote :
>snip<

> So, it's used on the real things. And anyone who has seen my Happy Meals
> will realize that after almost 100 flights, there is more duct tape on
them
> than there is plastic.
>

I have heard mention of your Happy Meals many times now -- I was just
wondering if there were any pictures of them anywhere on the net so that I
could see just what it was that you were lunching... er... launching.

If no pics are available, just you just describe what it is?

Sternen

Brett Buck

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Stephen DeArman wrote:

> I know I'm not the first one to think of this but when I was about
> 12, I wanted to make my sisters cat the first space kitty. I was going
> to use an old Lincoln Log tube for the bt but I couldn't figure out how
> to mount enough D engines, to get it off the ground and return it with
> out killing the cat.
>

Me and my buddys cat-launch design used a fiberglass cat capsule and
was planned to use 12 D engines. The cost of 12 D engines was the only
thing that ended up stopping us. We were going to use one of those huge
24" chutes, since it was so heavy...

Brett

Mark Simpson

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Mar 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/10/99
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Lance Taylor wrote:
>
> Okay, the "Handyman's Secret Weapon".. fess up. Who's used it in/for
> construction or repair! Just curious! *LOL*
>
> Anybody ever build a "duct tape rocket yet".. been thinking about this one
> for a while!
>

I've used duct tape to hold a broken fin on and for a friction fitted
motor.
Mark Simpson
NAR 71503 Level II


Stephen DeArman

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Mike Burch wrote:
>
> I am going to use duct tape to make a nice "zipperless" mercury space
> suit for that cat that I have been thinking about sending skyward since
> 3rd or 4th grade :-) Mike


I know I'm not the first one to think of this but when I was about
12, I wanted to make my sisters cat the first space kitty. I was going
to use an old Lincoln Log tube for the bt but I couldn't figure out how
to mount enough D engines, to get it off the ground and return it with
out killing the cat.

The way I feel about cats now, I should have just launched it with a
streamer. Don't cats always land on their feet anyway? :)

Trust No One,
Randy

Lance Taylor

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Mar 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/11/99
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This thread has me howling ROTF! Yup, brings a whole new meaning
to CATO!

Here kitty.. kitty!

Lance

Brett Buck wrote in message <36E71863...@lmco.com>...


>
>
>Stephen DeArman wrote:
>>
>> Mike Burch wrote:
>> >
>> > I am going to use duct tape to make a nice "zipperless" mercury space
>> > suit for that cat that I have been thinking about sending skyward since
>> > 3rd or 4th grade :-) Mike
>>
>> I know I'm not the first one to think of this but when I was about
>> 12, I wanted to make my sisters cat the first space kitty. I was going
>> to use an old Lincoln Log tube for the bt but I couldn't figure out how
>> to mount enough D engines, to get it off the ground and return it with
>> out killing the cat.
>>
>

Shwheels

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Stephen DeArman wrote

> I know I'm not the first one to think of this but when I was about
>12, I wanted to make my sisters cat the first space kitty. I was going
>to use an old Lincoln Log tube for the bt but I couldn't figure out how
>to mount enough D engines, to get it off the ground and return it with
>out killing the cat.
>

The BATF is bad enough, now you're going to get us in real trouble with PETA.
Young boy crying to the cameras; I only did it because some guy on r.m.r put
the idea in my head. Well maybe not, none of the RTF's are big enough.
Tracy Hill

Steve Bloom

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Mar 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/11/99
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Several of us have asked the same question over the years. Bob refuses to
even acknowledge the query. Maybe he's sensitive about sharing proprietary
information. Maybe they aren't real. Maybe he's just stuck up. Those of
us who aren't -lucky- enough to get to fly with him will probably never
know.

Oh well.

Steve Bloom
Come on out to Warshington and I'll take ya'll on a real snipe hunt


Memphis Pete wrote in message <01be6b45$738ba680$2ec2d6d1@memphis>...

Andy Schecter

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Bill Guy wrote in message <7c6msg$8dp$1...@news.kodak.com>...

>I've heard that someone (John Ritz, maybe)
>finished a "Flying Pyramid of Death"
>(Tetrahedron) but taping it up with Duct Tape.


Not John Ritz, it was Brent Wynn.


-Andy

Andy Dingley

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"Lance Taylor" <lan...@home.com> a écrit :

>Anybody ever build a "duct tape rocket yet"..

Spiral wraps of gummed paper tape (Grandad's Gaffer Tape), launched on
a 1/2A. Fins were wedges, made of the same tape over slices of
expanded polystrene ceiling tiles. Some stengthening (and a launch
lug) was added by a drinking straw along the central axis.


Mark Johnson

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Stephen DeArman wrote:

> I know I'm not the first one to think of this but when I was about
> 12, I wanted to make my sisters cat the first space kitty. I was going
> to use an old Lincoln Log tube for the bt but I couldn't figure out how
> to mount enough D engines, to get it off the ground and return it with
> out killing the cat.
>

> The way I feel about cats now, I should have just launched it with a
> streamer. Don't cats always land on their feet anyway? :)

Remember that launching live mammals as payloads is a violation of
the NAR Safety Code. However, it's worth noting that the safety code
makes no specifications as to what is legal for wadding as long as
it is properly treated for flameproofing. [give the
animal a bath in boric acid beforehand.]

:-)
--
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M/S 18 (formerly Symbios, Inc.)
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(316)636-8189 Wichita, KS 67226-1397

Stephen DeArman

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Mark Johnson wrote:
>
> Stephen DeArman wrote:

snip

> Remember that launching live mammals as payloads is a violation of
> the NAR Safety Code. However, it's worth noting that the safety code
> makes no specifications as to what is legal for wadding as long as
> it is properly treated for flameproofing. [give the
> animal a bath in boric acid beforehand.]


Like I said, it was back when I was 12, I'm just short of 43 now. I
had no idea there even was a safety code back then. We just used common
sense. That cat was hit by a car almost 30 years ago. I will keep the
boric acid in mind should I ever get the urge to launch my wifes cat.

The nice thing is that if you really wanted to, there are engines today
that could do it with no problem. Maybe I can make a little suit for
the cat like say a Robocat outfit and do a Kitty Bail Out! :)

Geronimo!
Randy

Bob Kaplow

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Mar 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/11/99
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In article <7c7tnu$icp$1...@eskinews.eskimo.com>, "Steve Bloom" <bloo...@everett.net> writes:
> Several of us have asked the same question over the years. Bob refuses to
> even acknowledge the query. Maybe he's sensitive about sharing proprietary
> information. Maybe they aren't real. Maybe he's just stuck up. Those of
> us who aren't -lucky- enough to get to fly with him will probably never
> know.

Well, I just don't have any pictures of them, nor a way of geting pictures
on the net. Maybe I can get our club photographer to snap a couple digital
shots this weekend, and someoen can put them up somewhere.

And I didn't invent the silly things either. Ric Gaff did it first. he even
published plans as a 3x3" space filler in an old leading Edge. Got it? It's
Ric's fault. Not mine. Ric's.

> Memphis Pete wrote in message <01be6b45$738ba680$2ec2d6d1@memphis>...
>>Bob Kaplw wrote :
>>>snip<
>>> So, it's used on the real things. And anyone who has seen my Happy Meals
>>> will realize that after almost 100 flights, there is more duct tape on
>>them
>>> than there is plastic.
>>>
>>
>>I have heard mention of your Happy Meals many times now -- I was just
>>wondering if there were any pictures of them anywhere on the net so that I
>>could see just what it was that you were lunching... er... launching.
>>
>>If no pics are available, just you just describe what it is?
>>
>>Sternen
>
>

--

Bob Kaplow

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In article <36E710...@www.worldnet.att.net>, Stephen DeArman <tail...@www.worldnet.att.net> writes:
> Mike Burch wrote:
>>
>> I am going to use duct tape to make a nice "zipperless" mercury space
>> suit for that cat that I have been thinking about sending skyward since
>> 3rd or 4th grade :-) Mike
>
>
> I know I'm not the first one to think of this but when I was about
> 12, I wanted to make my sisters cat the first space kitty. I was going
> to use an old Lincoln Log tube for the bt but I couldn't figure out how
> to mount enough D engines, to get it off the ground and return it with
> out killing the cat.

Years ago I built a katlofter. Still have it in the junk pile.

> The way I feel about cats now, I should have just launched it with a
> streamer. Don't cats always land on their feet anyway? :)


Not if you put peanut butter on their backs. Although even thics can be
counteracted by putting cement booties on their feet.

How do you make a cat go WOOF?

Soak it with lighter fluid and toss a match on it.

Bob Kaplow

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In article <36E7F08A...@lsil.com>, Mark Johnson <mark.j...@lsil.com> writes:
> Remember that launching live mammals as payloads is a violation of
> the NAR Safety Code. However, it's worth noting that the safety code
> makes no specifications as to what is legal for wadding as long as
> it is properly treated for flameproofing. [give the
> animal a bath in boric acid beforehand.]

Very Important! Cat fur really stinks when burned.

David Stribling

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Stephen DeArman wrote in message <36E80E...@www.worldnet.att.net>...
[snip]

>
> The nice thing is that if you really wanted to, there are engines today
>that could do it with no problem. Maybe I can make a little suit for
>the cat like say a Robocat outfit and do a Kitty Bail Out! :)
>
> Geronimo!
> Randy

This would be a FUR-out RoKAT KIT. Remember to pick up all your LITTER at
the launch site. Music to fly by: Cat Scratch Fever! No fillets on the
fins, confused kitty would be thinking about a fish snack then...

Be careful out there...we don't want any CATastrophes

[sorry :^)]

David Stribling
NAR 18402 Sr.
But it *is* rocket science
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Jon3854

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Bob Kaplow wrote:

>In article <7c7tnu$icp$1...@eskinews.eskimo.com>, "Steve Bloom"

><bloo...@everett.net> writes:<BR>


>> Several of us have asked the same question over the years. Bob refuses

>to<BR>


>> even acknowledge the query. Maybe he's sensitive about sharing

>proprietary<BR>


>> information. Maybe they aren't real. Maybe he's just stuck up. Those

>of<BR>
>> us who aren't -lucky- enough to get to fly with him will probably never<BR>
>> know.<BR>
><BR>


>Well, I just don't have any pictures of them, nor a way of geting

>pictures<BR>


>on the net. Maybe I can get our club photographer to snap a couple

>digital<BR>
>shots this weekend, and someoen can put them up somewhere.<BR>
><BR>


>And I didn't invent the silly things either. Ric Gaff did it first. he

>even<BR>


>published plans as a 3x3" space filler in an old leading Edge. Got it?

>It's<BR>
>Ric's fault. Not mine. Ric's.<BR>
><BR>
><BR>
><BR>
>> Memphis Pete wrote in message <01be6b45$738ba680$2ec2d6d1@memphis>...<BR>
>>>Bob Kaplw wrote :<BR>
>>>>snip<<BR>


>>>> So, it's used on the real things. And anyone who has seen my Happy

>Meals<BR>


>>>> will realize that after almost 100 flights, there is more duct tape

>on<BR>
>>>them<BR>
>>>> than there is plastic.<BR>
>>>><BR>
>>><BR>
>>>I have heard mention of your Happy Meals many times now -- I was just<BR>


>>>wondering if there were any pictures of them anywhere on the net so that

>I<BR>
>>>could see just what it was that you were lunching... er... launching.<BR>
>>><BR>
>>>If no pics are available, just you just describe what it is?<BR>
>>><BR>
>>>Sternen<BR>
>> <BR>
>> <BR>
>-- <BR>
><BR>
> Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Ctrl-Alt-Del"<BR>
><BR>
>Kaplow Klips: http://members.aol.com/myhprcato/KaplowKlips.html<BR>
>NIRA: http://www.nira.chicago.il.us NAR: http://www.nar.org<BR>
>SPAM: u...@ftc.gov postm...@127.0.0.1 otherwise, I'm not on MARS!<BR>
></HTML>

Maybe someone could talk to Tom Beach about scanning the photo on page 7 of the
September/October 1992 issue of American Spacemodeling.

The reason I say talk to Tom is because the photo is the property of AmSpam
(SpRocketry) and Tom is the guy who took the photo.

Bob, it's the photo of you and the Happy Meal rocket with a shuttle nose on
your nose. From NARAM 34.

Of course, this was before all the duct tape....


John O'Donnell NAR 60742 Sr. L2 CSAR Sec 113
Visit my web page at http://members.aol.com/Jon3854/index.html

"The last man to leave here was never heard from again, he won't be back this
way 'til 2010" - Planet P



John Stein

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When I was young, we had a cat that would have been perfect. His name was
(appropriately enough) Dumb-Dumb. He was jet black, had half of his teeth
missing from an encounter with a car, was extremely lazy...to the point that
he and the neighbors dog, would lie in the front yard together. He was not
afraid of anything...or he was to stupid to care. The RoboCat outfit would
have suited him...and as long as there was food...he'd have participated.

--
John Stein KC4RLL
NAR #74335


Stephen DeArman wrote in message <36E80E...@www.worldnet.att.net>...

>Mark Johnson wrote:
>>
>> Stephen DeArman wrote:
>
>snip
>

>> Remember that launching live mammals as payloads is a violation of
>> the NAR Safety Code. However, it's worth noting that the safety code
>> makes no specifications as to what is legal for wadding as long as
>> it is properly treated for flameproofing. [give the
>> animal a bath in boric acid beforehand.]
>
>

> Like I said, it was back when I was 12, I'm just short of 43 now. I
>had no idea there even was a safety code back then. We just used common
>sense. That cat was hit by a car almost 30 years ago. I will keep the
>boric acid in mind should I ever get the urge to launch my wifes cat.
>

ddee...@my-dejanews.com

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In article <1999Mar11.131924.1@eisner>,
kapl...@eisner.decus.org (Bob Kaplow) wrote about Happy Meals:

> And I didn't invent the silly things either. Ric Gaff did it first. he even

> published plans as a 3x3" space filler in an old leading Edge. Got it? It's

> Ric's fault. Not mine. Ric's.

Back issues of The Leading Edge at
http://www.nira.chicago.il.us/LEADING-ONLINE.HTM

I didn't look through them, but perhaps there are one or more picture of
Kaplow and a Happy Meal in one of those issues.

Derf

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Steve Bloom

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Thanks for the link, but alas, no happy rocket. Your secret is still safe.
No picture, no drawing, not even a description.

Steve "Snipe Hunter" Bloom


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<7c9bkp$o2e$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...

Bob Kaplow

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In article <36E80E...@www.worldnet.att.net>, Stephen DeArman <tail...@www.worldnet.att.net> writes:

> Mark Johnson wrote:
>
>> Remember that launching live mammals as payloads is a violation of
>> the NAR Safety Code. However, it's worth noting that the safety code
>> makes no specifications as to what is legal for wadding as long as
>> it is properly treated for flameproofing. [give the
>> animal a bath in boric acid beforehand.]
>
> Like I said, it was back when I was 12, I'm just short of 43 now. I
> had no idea there even was a safety code back then. We just used common
> sense. That cat was hit by a car almost 30 years ago. I will keep the
> boric acid in mind should I ever get the urge to launch my wifes cat.
>
> The nice thing is that if you really wanted to, there are engines today
> that could do it with no problem. Maybe I can make a little suit for
> the cat like say a Robocat outfit and do a Kitty Bail Out! :)

Another problem with katlofting is that it takes 9 flights to get rid of
one.

"In space, no one can hear them meow."

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Ctrl-Alt-Del"

Kaplow Klips: http://members.aol.com/myhprcato/KaplowKlips.html

Bob Kaplow

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In article <7c9bkp$o2e$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, ddee...@my-dejanews.com writes:
> In article <1999Mar11.131924.1@eisner>,
> kapl...@eisner.decus.org (Bob Kaplow) wrote about Happy Meals:
>
>> And I didn't invent the silly things either. Ric Gaff did it first. he even
>> published plans as a 3x3" space filler in an old leading Edge. Got it? It's
>> Ric's fault. Not mine. Ric's.
>
> Back issues of The Leading Edge at
> http://www.nira.chicago.il.us/LEADING-ONLINE.HTM

Thanks for the plug, but VERY RECENT back issues are online. The issue we're
talking about is from around 1982, when The Leading Edge was done on a Mimeo
machine, long before the days of DTP.

Bob Kaplow

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In article <19990311141026...@ng-cf1.aol.com>, jon...@aol.com (Jon3854) writes:
> Maybe someone could talk to Tom Beach about scanning the photo on page 7 of the
> September/October 1992 issue of American Spacemodeling.
>
> The reason I say talk to Tom is because the photo is the property of AmSpam
> (SpRocketry) and Tom is the guy who took the photo.
>
> Bob, it's the photo of you and the Happy Meal rocket with a shuttle nose on
> your nose. From NARAM 34.

Tom has given me permission to put this picture on the NIRA web page. Can
someone scan it and email it to our webmaster (or to me and I'll forward it
there)?

Andy Dingley

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Mar 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/12/99
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Mark Johnson <mark.j...@lsil.com> a écrit :

>Remember that launching live mammals as payloads is a violation of
>the NAR Safety Code.

That always seemed unfair to amphibians, IMHO.

Tom Binford

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Mar 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/12/99
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Lance Taylor wrote:

> Not sure what the ingredients are in an Estes engine.... and of course
> that's probably a trade secret and taboo for this list to divuldge.
>
> Lance

Estes motors are black powder, which contains sulfur. I would expect SO2
more than H2S, but there may be some from reaction with the paper
casing. BTW, most rocketeers LOVE the smell of used motors.
Tom

Jon3854

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Mar 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/13/99
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Bob Kaplow wrote:

>(Jon3854) writes:<BR>


>> Maybe someone could talk to Tom Beach about scanning the photo on page 7 of

>the<BR>
>> September/October 1992 issue of American Spacemodeling.<BR>
>> <BR>


>> The reason I say talk to Tom is because the photo is the property of

>AmSpam<BR>
>> (SpRocketry) and Tom is the guy who took the photo.<BR>
>> <BR>


>> Bob, it's the photo of you and the Happy Meal rocket with a shuttle nose

>on<BR>
>> your nose. From NARAM 34.<BR>
><BR>
>Tom has given me permission to put this picture on the NIRA web page. Can<BR>


>someone scan it and email it to our webmaster (or to me and I'll forward

>it<BR>
>there)?<BR>


><BR>
> Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Ctrl-Alt-Del"<BR>
><BR>
>Kaplow Klips: http://members.aol.com/myhprcato/KaplowKlips.html<BR>

>NIRA: http://www.nira.chicago.il.us NAR: http://www.nar.org<BR>
>SPAM: u...@ftc.gov postm...@127.0.0.1 otherwise, I'm not on MARS!<BR>
></HTML>

Bob, it's on its way. I scanned it at 300dpi, but reduced it in size to a 40k
file. Hope that's okay.

Get ready for a real treat people.

Lance Taylor

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Mar 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/13/99
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>Remember that launching live mammals as payloads is a violation of
>the NAR Safety Code. However, it's worth noting that the safety code
>makes no specifications as to what is legal for wadding as long as
>it is properly treated for flameproofing. [give the
>animal a bath in boric acid beforehand.]
>
>:-)
>--
>Mark Johnson LSI Logic Storage Systems, Inc.


I'm Howling ROTF I've created a monster on this post! Good to see! 8^)

Seriously though as a flytyer we use various furs and feathers for tying
flies.
If anyone wants some flame retardent road kill to try as dubbing.. let me
know! 8^)

Though burnt dog smell on top of the rotten egg smell would be
too much. BTW.. can anyone explain to me WHY the engines
stink like rotton eggs when launched. I always wondered that..
only thing that comes to mind is H2S is produced. Am I close?

Lance Taylor

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Mar 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/13/99
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Tom Binford wrote in message <36E9DA35...@frontiernet.net>...

>Lance Taylor wrote:
>
>> Not sure what the ingredients are in an Estes engine.... and of course
>> that's probably a trade secret and taboo for this list to divuldge.
>>
>> Lance
>
>Estes motors are black powder, which contains sulfur. I would expect SO2
>more than H2S, but there may be some from reaction with the paper
>casing. BTW, most rocketeers LOVE the smell of used motors.
>Tom

Like my average in Physics.. Chemistry always held a strong interest
for me.. but too many elements to remember with as many half lives.
Yah, I think SO2 is was what I meant to describe.

I agree.. I inhale the smell of each rocket launch too! 8^) I also like the
smell of gunpowder released from my Ruger 10/22, or
Remington Wingmaster 870 Shotgun when Grouse or
Duck Hunting! 8^)

Hmmm.. a feather seeking bird missile and I might actually hit
something then!

Lance


Steve Baughman

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Mar 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/13/99
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> most rocketeers LOVE the smell of used motors

Man, you are SO RIGHT THERE Tom. In my opinion, the wonderful charred
smell of a roasted nozzle ranks right up there with a good brisket
that's been smokin all day. But I've got one even freaker:

I find the odor of propellant to be outrageoulsy pleasant!

Does anyone else totally dig the smell of new composite motors like I
do? Oh man, that slightly sweet and sickly smell of nice sugary grey
propellant. Ooooh! When reloading a motor, the first thing I do when
unwrapping the propellant from the static bag is to put my nostrils
right up against the core of the motor grains and take a big
head-clearing whiff of that rubbery yet ammonia laden smell - it's
great! It's best when you have a large enough motor grain that you can
take a whole whiff of air that has to go all the way through all the
grains. That is the smell of power baby.

Steve

David

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Mar 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/13/99
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And we wonder why non-rocketeers think we're kinda strange...

<grin>

GUILTY AS CHARGED.

Me too! The BIGGER the reload, the greater the RUSH.

Tim Allen would LOVE US. MOOOOOOORE POOOWEEERRRR!


Ummm. Just don't get "freaky" with the propellant slugs... THAT would be TOO
strange... not to mention the resultant "ejection" would interfere with
proper deployment! (sick grin)

Don't even THINK of that "mental image"....


Steve Baughman <sbau...@swbell.net> wrote in message
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Tom Binford

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Mar 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/14/99
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David wrote:
>
> And we wonder why non-rocketeers think we're kinda strange...
>
> <grin>
>
> GUILTY AS CHARGED.
>
> Me too! The BIGGER the reload, the greater the RUSH.
>
> Tim Allen would LOVE US. MOOOOOOORE POOOWEEERRRR!
>

The composite motor smell is the HTPB. My jug of HTPB smells just like a
freshly cured grain.
Tom

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