new mini rc copter 735 set
Otakuforever
but it wont lift off, and it spins unless i push my right stick
forward. ive tried messing with the trim but nothing seems to work
Larry Farrell
The most direct answer is that the copter doesn't generate enough lift
to take off from the floor; fly it out of your hand. Otherwise, ground
effects cause the copter to gyrate around on the floor and it never
lifts off. Once you have the copter in the air, you can then deal with
trim issues, but you will never be able to do so with it on the floor.
Also, check to be sure that you haven't picked up hair/fuzz from the
floor and wrapped it around the tail rotor shaft. That is a continuing
issue when you try to take off from the floor and it slows tail rotor
rotation to the point that it is no longer counteracting main rotor
torque, again resulting in continual spinning. If there is hair/fuzz,
pick it off carefully with tweezers.
Try these two things and post regarding your results.
Larry Farrell
The most direct answer is that the copter doesn't generate enough lift
Steve R.
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> The most direct answer is that the copter doesn't generate enough lift to
> take off from the floor; fly it out of your hand. Otherwise, ground
> effects cause the copter to gyrate around on the floor and it never lifts
> off. Once you have the copter in the air, you can then deal with trim
> issues, but you will never be able to do so with it on the floor.
>
Actually, the gyrating thing is just a ground resonance. Full size birds
will do it too under the right conditions. The model will lift off in
ground effect at power settings that it wouldn't be able to maintain
altitude with if you just launched it from your hand three to four feet off
the ground. If it's not picking up, you either don't have enough pitch in
the blades or the rotors not spinning fast enough. Without actually seeing
the bird, it's hard to know which is the case.
Good luck,
Steve R.
Beav
> Otakuforever wrote:
>> i just got this copter as a gift and it wont work. the blades spin,
>> but it wont lift off, and it spins unless i push my right stick
>> forward. ive tried messing with the trim but nothing seems to work
>
> The most direct answer is that the copter doesn't generate enough lift to
> take off from the floor; fly it out of your hand.
And where does this magic extra lift come from when the helicopter is way
above the ground?
> Otherwise, ground effects cause the copter to gyrate around on the floor
> and it never lifts off.
Back to school with you. Ground effect NEVER made a helicopter gyrate around
and it ALWAYS makes it easier to get a helicopter off the floor. Maybe you
should do a little research about ground effect, concentrating on hovering
heights/abilities of full sized machines. Oddly, if they can't sustain a
hover at a particular height, put a mountain underneath them and they've got
a chance.
> Once you have the copter in the air,
He can't GET it in the air.
> you can then deal with trim issues, but you will never be able to do so
> with it on the floor.
Not much bloody use then it is?
>
> Also, check to be sure that you haven't picked up hair/fuzz from the floor
> and wrapped it around the tail rotor shaft. That is a continuing issue
> when you try to take off from the floor and it slows tail rotor rotation
> to the point that it is no longer counteracting main rotor torque, again
> resulting in continual spinning. If there is hair/fuzz, pick it off
> carefully with tweezers.
>
> Try these two things and post regarding your results.
I'm waiting, popcorn in hand.
--
Beav
VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19
Larry Farrell
see anything here but denigrating someone who at least tried to give the
original poster some help, based on my own experience with small
helicopters of the sort described.
Maybe you ought to put a bit less salt on the popcorn.
Beav
Too many to write in a newsgroup posting, that's for sure.
>I don't see anything here but denigrating someone who at least tried to
>give the original poster some help, based on my own experience with small
>helicopters of the sort described.
Maybe checking Google groupls for past posts on this subject may be an idea?
>
> Maybe you ought to put a bit less salt on the popcorn.
More salt and more butter I think.
The thing is, if you know fuck all, SAY fuck all lest you make yourself look
like a fool.
Larry Farrell
You long ago received my e-mail message saying that I did not plan to
post further in the newsgroup. Posting this is simply rubbing salt into
wounds, for no reason other than making you feel superior. I guess that
makes you some sort of expert, at least in your own mind. Enjoy your
exalted position.
Beav
I did? I don't recall it Larry, nor does my inbox.
> Posting this is simply rubbing salt into wounds, for no reason other than
> making you feel superior.
But Larry, I AM superior. [1]
> I guess that makes you some sort of expert,
Well I've never called myself an expert and those who do will be told not to
call me an expert. I don't like the term at all. I do know what I know
though and what I know comes from 35 years building, repairing, flying and
teaching people about helicopters.
> at least in your own mind.
Never in my mind.
> Enjoy your exalted position.
It's a burden sometimes, but someone has to do it.
[1] (Don't take these toys, or me, so seriously Larry. They're nothing but
playthings.