Aerofly not so great
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After a lot of reading I decided to give AeroFly a go.
The graphics are pretty nice.
But I don't care for the selection of planes compared to RealFlight (I
fly electric and sailplanes). I know I can hunt for some free ones.
But what really bothers me is I wanted to get some experience with
heli's
Well I can take most heli's go full throttle, 50 ft, cut the throttle
and let it drop and no damage.
I'm not gonna learn to much with this thing.
Also the Dummy Controller is total junk and I asked if ikarus would
take it back for refund and they said no. They would replace it, but I
didn't want another one. And trim if for beans and trim is different
for rudder depending on throttle position. It's really junk.
FYI in case someone is researching.
Ed Cregger
also sucks.
Ed Cregger
"mswlogo" <geom...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Ed Forsythe
I was just about to reply to mswlogo. I've had every version of Real Flight
and the early version of G3 was terrible - a zillion bugs Real Flight
refused to acknowledge. My LHS had so many complaints that they took it off
the shelves and gave unhappy customers a full refund. I exchanged mine for
Aerofly Pro Deluxe because the LHS troops advised me against Reflex. I kept
G2 and began comparing G2 and AFPD. Now I spend about 98% of my sim time on
AFPD with brief excursions into G2 just for kicks. I tried logo's chop the
power test on the Huey and he's partially correct. The only crash damage was
a destroyed undercarriage. However, crash realism is not high on my
priority list for sims. My goal is to avoid crashes <BG>. On the other hand
you may pop the wings/tail off the models if you pull too many G's. How's
that for realism Logo? BTW, at my local field, I've seen a one chopper
engine failure from a high hover and it descended vertically but the result
was obscene :)
IMHO, AFPD is the best and that opinion is backed up by three friends who
are pretty good pilots. One chose AFPD after it was recommended by a bunch
of 3D pilots in his club. He became a pretty good 3D pilot himself after
transitioning from G2/ G3, to AFPD. I have Reflex and I think it may be an
excellent 3D/Chopper trainer because you can start with one control and
gradually add more as you become more proficient. I don't use it because
there is no controller and it doesn't work with my JR Quattro. I refuse to
put hours of wear and tear on my 9303 or my other JR xmtrs. The Reflex
troops will modify the Quattro so that it will work but I'm a procrastinator
so I haven't sent it in (over a year :-().
The bottom line Ed - I recommend AFPD highly. Try to find someone with the
AFPD and try it. *Or* perhaps your LHS will allow you to return it should it
fail to meet your expectations. Oh, one last thing. I'm using my G2-USB &
regular G2 controllers with AFPD and although they were a PITA to set up
they work beautifully. The G2-USB box gives me nozzle control on the
Harrier and variable wing sweep on the F-14. Crash realism is pretty good.
Although they don't burn ;-)
"Ed Cregger" <ecre...@bellsouff.net> wrote in message
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Doug McLaren
mswlogo <geom...@gmail.com> wrote:
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| But I don't care for the selection of planes compared to RealFlight (I
| fly electric and sailplanes). I know I can hunt for some free ones.
Note that RFGx generally doesn't let you make your own planes -- you
have to buy them in packs.
| But what really bothers me is I wanted to get some experience with
| heli's
|
| Well I can take most heli's go full throttle, 50 ft, cut the throttle
| and let it drop and no damage.
|
| I'm not gonna learn to much with this thing.
I bought RFG2 and it was OK. I refused to buy RFG3 because there was
no decent upgrade path, and haven't bought any of the others, but I've
played with a few of them.
About AFPD, I've played with it a few minutes, and noticed the same
thing you did about falling helicopters. But why would it prevent you
from learning? If you know that if you do that, it'll cause damage,
what's the problem? None of the simulators really accurately simulate
damage anyways, though AFPD does let you break the wings off of planes
if you make maneuvers that are too violent, which is kind of neat. It
also lets you break the landing gear off. I guess it does better than
the others.
Crash RFG3, and your plane will break in some random way, but the
damage isn't generally related to the way it crashed. It's kind of
neat, but it doesn't add much -- but it is fun to watch crashes take a
life of their own, where the pieces bounce around and sometimes
spontaneously launch themselves into the air and such. It's all very
surreal.
Back to AFPD, if you hit your blades into something (like the ground),
it'll crash, and that's probably the most likely crash you'll
experience in real life, so it seems to me that you'll learn plenty if
you actually work at it. RFG3 seemed pretty similar, and so was RFG2.
I forget which one it was, but either RFG3 or AFPD surprised me in
that I smacked the tail rotor into the ground, and rather than it
doing an immediate crash, the tail rotor stopped, and the heli then
proceeded to behave as if the tail rotor had stopped -- which I
thought was a very nice effect.
None of them seem to simulate boom strikes or anything like that.
For helis, it's FMS that you won't learn too much with. As much as I
like to say good things about FMS, the helicopters are just too easy
to fly. They're always in perfect trim and never do anything
unexpected. You can put it in a hover, then go make a sandwich, and
come back and it's still hovering.
(For planes, the same thing happens, but it's not so noticable there.)
RFG3's slope soaring mode was really good! I was quite nicely
impressed. Thermal soaring, not so much -- they don't even do
anything to simulate a hi-start or winch? Bah! And it wasn't really
clear how I'd ever find a thermal. AFPD seemed a lot better at doing
thermal soaring.
All of the modern simulators seem to have a display that will tell you
your altitude and such. It would be nice if they could give you an
audible vario like the glider pilots use (both R/C and full scale),
but so far as far as I know nobody does. AFPD gives you a total
energy vario, which is neat, but it's visual only.
I have not tried Reflex XTR.
| Also the Dummy Controller is total junk and I asked if ikarus would
| take it back for refund and they said no. They would replace it, but I
| didn't want another one. And trim if for beans and trim is different
| for rudder depending on throttle position. It's really junk.
Don't recall anything out of the ordinary with the controller, but
then again I didn't spend much time on it.
--
Doug McLaren, dou...@frenzy.com
Much of the excitement we get out of our work is that we
don't really know what we are doing. --E. Dijkstra
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time and perhaps save me from a few accidents.
It just seems too forgiving and won't realistically expose mistakes
because will just keep flying.
I'm not comparing it to G3 (sine I don't have it), I'm just reporting
my experience.
I'm just disappointed.