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Ian G. Mathers  
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 More options Mar 25 2004, 12:37 am
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From: "Ian G. Mathers" <imath...@internorth.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 20:36:11 -0700
Local: Wed, Mar 24 2004 10:36 pm
Subject: Weathered error (Athearn) on eBay
From time to time I do a search on eBay for Canadian National equipment and
found this Athearn error.  I remember reading about this particular car here
a while back and wondered if it is worth $10+.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3183428820&categor...

Ian Mathers
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 02:35:17 -0500
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Subject: Re: Weathered error (Athearn) on eBay
"Ian G. Mathers" <imath...@internorth.com> wrote in message
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> From time to time I do a search on eBay for Canadian National equipment
and
> found this Athearn error.  I remember reading about this particular car
here
> a while back and wondered if it is worth $10+.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3183428820&categor...
&sspagename=rvi:1:2

what's wrong with it?


 
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 More options Mar 25 2004, 10:19 am
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From: "Wolf Kirchmeir" <wwolf...@sympatico.can>
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 10:04:57 -0500 (EST)
Local: Thurs, Mar 25 2004 10:04 am
Subject: Re: Weathered error (Athearn) on eBay

On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 02:35:17 -0500, me wrote:

=>"Ian G. Mathers" <imath...@internorth.com> wrote in message
=>news:40627029@news.tera-byte.com...
=>> From time to time I do a search on eBay for Canadian National equipment
=>and
=>> found this Athearn error.  I remember reading about this particular car
=>here
=>> a while back and wondered if it is worth $10+.
=>>
=>>
=>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3183428820&categor...
=>&sspagename=rvi:1:2
=>
=>what's wrong with it?
=>
=>

The CN logo is too thin and the wrong size. Lettering in lettering block is
wrong font (too thin). Been this way ever since Athearn first offered this
paint scheme back in the 60s or 70s - can't imagine why they persisted with
this stupid mistake. Has made me suspicious of _all_ Athearn paint schemes,
and I check them all against reality now.

Wolf Kirchmeir
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(Garrison Keillor)
<just one w and plain ca for correct address>


 
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 More options Mar 25 2004, 2:11 pm
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From: "me" <nos...@nospam.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 14:11:04 -0500
Local: Thurs, Mar 25 2004 2:11 pm
Subject: Re: Weathered error (Athearn) on eBay
"Wolf Kirchmeir" <wwolf...@sympatico.can> wrote in message

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> On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 02:35:17 -0500, me wrote:

> =>"Ian G. Mathers" <imath...@internorth.com> wrote in message
> =>news:40627029@news.tera-byte.com...
> =>> From time to time I do a search on eBay for Canadian National
equipment
> =>and
> =>> found this Athearn error.  I remember reading about this particular
car
> =>here
> =>> a while back and wondered if it is worth $10+.
> =>>
> =>>

=>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3183428820&categor...
30

> =>&sspagename=rvi:1:2
> =>
> =>what's wrong with it?

> The CN logo is too thin and the wrong size. Lettering in lettering block
is
> wrong font (too thin). Been this way ever since Athearn first offered this
> paint scheme back in the 60s or 70s - can't imagine why they persisted
with
> this stupid mistake. Has made me suspicious of _all_ Athearn paint
schemes,
> and I check them all against reality now.

ah ok. I did notice the thin logo. I didn't click on the "supersize' photos,
so I
didn't notice the font was wrong too...it didn't look noticable on the
smaller
ones. I guess I was thinking maybe there was a typo or something, that's why
I asked :)

 
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Wolf Kirchmeir  
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 More options Mar 25 2004, 10:26 pm
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From: "Wolf Kirchmeir" <wwolf...@sympatico.can>
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 22:12:45 -0500 (EST)
Local: Thurs, Mar 25 2004 10:12 pm
Subject: Re: Weathered error (Athearn) on eBay

On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 22:37:35 GMT, Steve Hoskins wrote:

=>On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 20:36:11 -0700, "Ian G. Mathers"
=><imath...@internorth.com> wrote :
=>
=>>From time to time I do a search on eBay for Canadian National equipment and
=>>found this Athearn error.  I remember reading about this particular car here
=>>a while back and wondered if it is worth $10+.
=>>
=>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3183428820&categor...
=>
=>Sure it's worth $10.00 or a little more.
=>
=>The car probably cost $7.00 or maybe a little more new.  Add the Kadee
=>couplers, and the weathering.  

Nah, it's worthless. Wrong lettering, needs new paintjob. I might give you a
couple bucks at a swap table if I was hard up for 40' boxcar bodies, and
there weren't any Roco-built AHM PS-1s around.

Wolf Kirchmeir
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(Garrison Keillor)
<just one w and plain ca for correct address>


 
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 More options Mar 26 2004, 12:00 am
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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 05:02:05 GMT
Local: Fri, Mar 26 2004 12:02 am
Subject: Re: Weathered error (Athearn) on eBay
"Wolf Kirchmeir" <wwolf...@sympatico.can> wrote in message

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> Been this way ever since Athearn first offered this
> paint scheme back in the 60s or 70s - can't imagine why they persisted with
> this stupid mistake.

The #1209 Athearn cars aren't that way any more.
http://www.athearn.com/RollingStock/freightcars/1209C.GIF

 
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 More options Mar 26 2004, 1:35 am
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From: Fred Ellis <fkel...@sticxx.net>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 00:10:47 -0500
Local: Fri, Mar 26 2004 12:10 am
Subject: Re: Weathered error (Athearn) on eBay

Steve Hoskins wrote:

> On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 20:36:11 -0700, "Ian G. Mathers"
> <imath...@internorth.com> wrote :

> >From time to time I do a search on eBay for Canadian National equipment and
> >found this Athearn error.  I remember reading about this particular car here
> >a while back and wondered if it is worth $10+.

> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3183428820&categor...

> Sure it's worth $10.00 or a little more.

> The car probably cost $7.00 or maybe a little more new.  Add the Kadee
> couplers, and the weathering.

Steve,

That car sold for $1.49 when it was brand new.  It says so on the box.

Fred Ellis
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 More options Mar 26 2004, 2:00 am
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From: "Mark Mathu" <m...@mathu.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 06:55:05 GMT
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Subject: Re: Weathered error (Athearn) on eBay
"Fred Ellis" <fkel...@sticxx.net> wrote in message

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> That car sold for $1.49 when it was brand new.  It says so on the box.

When did Athearn use yellow boxes?

 
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 More options Mar 26 2004, 9:52 am
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Date: 26 Mar 2004 14:51:37 GMT
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Subject: Re: Weathered error (Athearn) on eBay
In article <dtQ8c.1334$z%1.1...@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>, "Mark Mathu"

<m...@mathu.com> writes:

>When did Athearn use yellow boxes?

Briefly in IIRC the 1960s. They were the same as their blue boxes except
yellow.
I have one out of a total of several hundred Athearn boxes.

At roughly the same period Athearn experimented with a totally different box.
Slightly more square in shape, pale blue with entirely different printing and
with a window. A complete failure as the windows were of rather thin material
which almost invariably gave way. The cardboard was not of marvelous quality
either and that style of box was also abandonned after only a few months.

Alex. W. Stirrat


 
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 More options Mar 26 2004, 11:45 am
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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 10:35:10 -0600
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Subject: Re: Weathered error (Athearn) on eBay
I still have a couple of those yellow boxes from the 60's.  And I remeber the
pale blue boxes with the 'window' - I think the'steam era' box car paint schemes
were in those boxes...

Jim Bernier


 
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 More options Mar 27 2004, 1:11 am
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Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 06:10:49 GMT
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Subject: Re: Weathered error (Athearn) on eBay

me <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message

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=>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3183428820&categor...

Actually, the "error" is the CN Wet noodle on the LEFT, and reporting marks
on the RIGHT.

I don't know how rare it is, as I've had a couple of them in the past, as
well as the "correct ones", Athearn made both.

Don

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Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 06:14:38 GMT
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Subject: Re: Weathered error (Athearn) on eBay

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The "yellow box" was the standard Athearn box up until the late 1960's.  one
in several hundred?  I have 4 or 5 of about 50.

The "window" box was used for several years from the late 1950's through
early 60's for Athearn's RTR cars.  I don't know that it was ever used for
kits.

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 More options Mar 27 2004, 1:59 am
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Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 00:59:32 -0600
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Subject: Re: Weathered error (Athearn) on eBay
"Trainman" <dom.dellm...@prodigy.net> wrote in message

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> The "yellow box" was the standard Athearn box up until the late 1960's.

Thanks - my first Athearn (an MILW mechanical reefer) was about 1973 or so.
The box was blue by that time.

> The "window" box was used for several years from the late 1950's through
> early 60's for Athearn's RTR cars.

What the -----  Athearn?  Ready-to-run?  What sacrilege!  This will
undoubtedly spell the doom of the hobby!

 
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 More options Mar 27 2004, 10:44 am
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Date: 27 Mar 2004 15:44:40 GMT
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Subject: Re: Weathered error (Athearn) on eBay
In article <QC99c.1164$YC5....@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>, "Mark Mathu"

<m...@mathu.com> writes:
>> The "yellow box" was the standard Athearn box up until the late 1960's.

I started buying Athearn in the early 60s and my first ones came in blue boxes.
My only yellow boxed one was certainly not the first I bought though it did
look as if it had sat on a shop shelf for some time so could well have been the
tail end of early stock. It contained one of their more obscure kits which I
would not think had a very high turnover rate. I still have it but its not
readily to hand at the moment to check what the exact item was.

> The "window" box was used for several years from the late 1950's through
> early 60's for Athearn's RTR cars.

Mine definitely contained kits as I have never bought Athearn RTR until
recently when that is the only way to buy certain of their cars. I was not even
aware that Athearn did RTR back then.

Alex. W. Stirrat


 
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Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 19:59:46 GMT
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Subject: Re: Weathered error (Athearn) on eBay

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Athearn had quite a bit of ready to run.  In fact around that era they were
one of the best selling "train set" lines around.  I got into HO in 1959
with an Athearn "set".  Lionel RTR production ca. 1960 or so was also
actually made by Athearn.  Other lines also included Athearn rtr cars, most
notably Herkimer (of aluminum streamliner fame).

In later years, Athearn also made models for "Cox".

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 More options Mar 27 2004, 7:29 pm
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Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 17:21:31 -0700
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Subject: Re: Weathered error (Athearn) on eBay
It seems to me that I have one in storage (not weathered) and I am tempted
to sell it now.

Ian

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 More options Mar 27 2004, 7:33 pm
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Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 17:25:44 -0700
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Subject: Re: Weathered error (Athearn) on eBay
I wonder if he used the old sprung trucks.  Those would be worth a dollar or
so now....

Ian

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