Moving to Texas
Dana Miller
(are they aver complete) layout in my basement. There are no basements
in the Waco TX area. Any ideas on what the locals do with their layouts?
Some possibilities are: using a spare room (not likely to be possible)
using part of the garage. Building an outbuilding.
I'm gonna miss that basement.
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Dana Miller
fl@liner
It is mostly whatever fits your lifestyle and wallet.. All
three of your choices are viable for Texas, but be aware
that the layout space will HAVE to be equipped with hvac, or
else you will have two very short modeling seasons per year.
fl@liner
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Ronald Gardner
trailer. It was featured in the Armstrong book on how to build a layout and
several RMC issues in the mid to early '60s. The reason for it was just what
happened to you, the owner had to relocate in the '50s for work. He had a
layout in the basement, all scratch built that he had to destroy. So, he
made sure that is he moved again his layout would go with him. And it did
twice. Depending on your desire the trailer could be smaller. Just a
thought, I have never heard of anyone trying this since.
Ron Gardner
Bruce Favinger
I've got mine in an out building. No matter where you build the layout you
may be able to get by without heat or just a space heater but you will want
air-conditioning. Depending on the neighborhood restrictions you can get old
trailers or mobile homes cheap especially if they are beat up and gutted
out. Since you are just moving to Texas you might want to see if you can
take a little time this summer to visit Texas State Railroad in East Texas
as it looks as if it will be shut down next season. Also when you have a
chance come up to Dallas to visit the Age of Steam Museum and check out
Discount Model Trains in Addison (North Dallas). You can also ride the Dart
Trains the TRE and the McKinney Street Trolley. Welcome to Texas! Bruce
"Dana Miller" <dmiller297...@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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Larry Blanchard
> I'll be moving to Texas from Indy this month.
You have my sympathy :-).
--
It's turtles, all the way down
richard schumacher
Larry Blanchard <lbl...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> > I'll be moving to Texas from Indy this month.
>
> You have my sympathy :-).
Having lived in Dallas for 17 years after Wisconsin and Minnesota, I
second that :_<
As for your immediate problem: it is possible to find houses with
basements but they are very rare. Air conditioning is an absolute
necessity for what ever space you decide on for your layout.
tony...@joimail.com
I was told that about Southern California. Don't believe it. A good
real estate agent will usually know where to look for basements.
Tony
Ray Haddad
tony...@joimail.com instead replied:
>Dana Miller wrote:
>> I'll be moving to Texas from Indy this month. I have a small incomplete
>> (are they aver complete) layout in my basement. There are no basements
>> in the Waco TX area. Any ideas on what the locals do with their layouts?
>>
>> Some possibilities are: using a spare room (not likely to be possible)
>> using part of the garage. Building an outbuilding.
>>
>> I'm gonna miss that basement.
>
>I was told that about Southern California. Don't believe it. A good
>real estate agent will usually know where to look for basements.
Under the house?
--
Ray
Bruce Favinger
heaters, and F4s. I know you guys in Indiana can get really bad storms.
Since your moving to Waco you will still get them just more often. Bruce
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Steve Caple
> Basements in Texas are good for model trains, storage, furnaces, hot water
> heaters, and F4s. I know you guys in Indiana can get really bad storms.
> Since your moving to Waco you will still get them just more often.
Bet David Koresh wished he'd had one. eh?
--
Steve
Bruce Favinger
a bunker would have helped Koresh and his faithful. They'd have all done
themselves in Jim Jones style anyway so events were just more or less
accelerated. Not far away from Waco is Bush's ranch near Crawford. Another
compound of the bazaar. Wonder what's in the old shed we see when they
broadcast from there? The area has an interesting history. Back in the old
days when they we building the railroads everyone wanted one to come through
their town. The folks in Crawford however were so hard headed and mean that
even the railroad was intimidated and gave a wide berth to the town.
Eventually they got a railroad. Now unit trains full of BS originate near
Crawford headed for Mexico where they never seem to have enough. Also the
area around Waco was the second stomping grounds for the Tonkawa Indians.
The Tonkawas were a tribes of cannibals. Originally from the coast they ate
fish, other Indians and the occasional spicy Spaniard that might wash up. As
the coast became more settled the newcomers got tired of the Tonkawas making
castaway sandwiches out of them. They were ejected from the region. For some
reason they moved up around Crawford and Waco initiating the weird regional
attraction for unusual people. Apparently the Tonkawas did not change their
menu and ate one to many of the local residents. They were sent to Oklahoma
that at that time was simply a smorgasbord of indigenous people. They even
have what's left of a little town up there named after the Tonkawa.
Apparently they did not have a taste for their new neighbors the Poncas so
they switched to Spam and Spaghetti O's. At least that's what a guy who
claimed to be a Tonkawa was eating for lunch once many years ago when we
were working in that area. I had been told that all the Tonkawas had died
out. He liked to get high sniffing the oil in the tank batteries, so maybe
he lied. I asked him if any of his ancestors ate anyone from Waco. He kind
of squinted his eyes at me and said he didn't think so but that he had a
sister who lived near there who was a good cook. Bruce
"Steve Caple" <steve...@commoncast.net> wrote in message
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Steve Caple
> I think they were determined to toast those loonies no matter what.
Or vice versa, as you noted. I've always wondered how much of his own BS
Koresh beleved, or if he was entirely and consciously just in it for
playing god and having a harem. Only a difference of degree between him
and Billy James Hargis and the rest of the whole sick televangelist crew.
--
Steve
Ray Haddad
and "Bruce Favinger" <bwf...@swbell.net> instead replied:
>Koresh
Shut up, moron.
--
Ray
Bruce Favinger
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What a quick wit. It appears you are capable of using the word moron along
with two other words at the same time. Bruce
Bruce Favinger
"Steve Caple" <steve...@commoncast.net> wrote in message
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Steve,
I'll bet he really believed in his notions. Many of these guys even the
ones separated by a few degrees from Koresh probably start out knowing what
they are doing but eventually rationalize themselves in to deep conviction
and believe. Self brainwashing is enlightenment to them.. I think this
happens in other ways too. Take Ken Lay. While he is regarded as an arch
villain and did a tremendous amount of damage he was at one time a good,
hard working, trustworthy, well liked and respected man. Certainly a person
who knew right from wrong. With the fantastic success of his original
pipeline company he may have convinced himself that he could never fail.
When faced with failure it was to much for him to accept. It was probably
beyond money and greed, it cut him so deep. I think he knew full well what
he was doing but as time went on he rationalized that he only acted honestly
and in the best interest of all. He probably died believing he did nothing
criminal and that he was falsely judged. Koresh when down in flames thinking
the same. Bruce
Ray Haddad
and "Bruce Favinger" <bwf...@swbell.net> instead replied:
>"Ray Haddad" <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote in message
>news:3h5ra2517m1n4c0pd...@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 17:33:14 GMT, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
>> and "Bruce Favinger" <bwf...@swbell.net> instead replied:
>>
>>>Koresh
>>
>> Shut up, moron.
>
> What a quick wit. It appears you are capable of using the word moron along
>with two other words at the same time. Bruce
There's not a better word ever created to describe you, mate. You
rant on about political discussions here while you swan off creating
the very same posts you decry.
In short, you are a moron. Deal.
--
Ray
Bruce Favinger
Ray.
I've been involved in political threads and have made said some very un
PC political things. Show me a post where I where decried political
discussion or ranted about the presence of political posts on RMR. Bruce
Steve Caple
> In short, you are a moron.
In short, although it usually makes me wince a little to see it, I have
come to the point that I would second the Aussie designation of you as a
"f--k wit", except I'd loby to change the second word to "wad", wit being
beyond you.
--
Steve
Ray Haddad
and Steve Caple <steve...@commoncast.net> instead replied:
And your ability to read and write beyond you.
--
Ray
Ray Haddad
and "Bruce Favinger" <bwf...@swbell.net> instead replied:
>"Ray Haddad" <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote in message
>news:5p2sa2t1tqtk1tlgh...@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 00:27:28 GMT, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
>> and "Bruce Favinger" <bwf...@swbell.net> instead replied:
>>
>> >"Ray Haddad" <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote in message
>> >news:3h5ra2517m1n4c0pd...@4ax.com...
>> >> On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 17:33:14 GMT, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
>> >> and "Bruce Favinger" <bwf...@swbell.net> instead replied:
>> >>
>> >>>Koresh
>> >>
>> >> Shut up, moron.
>> >
>> > What a quick wit. It appears you are capable of using the word moron
>along
>> >with two other words at the same time. Bruce
>>
>> There's not a better word ever created to describe you, mate. You
>> rant on about political discussions here while you swan off creating
>> the very same posts you decry.
>>
>> In short, you are a moron. Deal.
>
> I've been involved in political threads and have made said some very un
>PC political things. Show me a post where I where decried political
>discussion or ranted about the presence of political posts on RMR. Bruce
Then you admit to being a moron. Well done.
--
Ray
Jim McLaughlin
Mark Newton, Proctor, Terry Flynn, all from down there and now Haddad.
Is it that they are in the midst of winter, cooped up indoors and have too
much time on their hands?
Is it taht they are standing on their heads, (G), and have an excess of ht
blood flooding their brains, overwhealming any sense they might otherise
possess?
Enough!
Good bye Ray.
You are the weakest link.
<PLONK>
--
Jim McLaughlin
Reply address is deliberately munged.
If you really need to reply directly, try:
jimdotmclaughlinatcomcastdotcom
And you know it is a dotnet not a dotcom
address.
"Ray Haddad" <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote in message
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Bruce Favinger
"Ray Haddad" <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote in message
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Bruce Favinger
Haven't heard from you for awhile. How are things going? I found a picture
of a post card the other day that had a painting of the Erie depot at Galion
Ohio on it. When I saw your post I remembered that you are interested in the
Erie. This depot is a really neat structure and I thought you might just
have some pictures or info on it. I know an Erie depot is along way from
being a TM prototype but it would not look out of place. Here's a link to
the post card.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohccgs/Galion/1900-10-ErieRRDepotGalion.jpg
Bruce
"Jim McLaughlin" <jim.mclaughlin> wrote in message
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Dana Miller
richard schumacher <no-...@invalid.net> wrote:
>In article <12alpal...@corp.supernews.com>,
> Larry Blanchard <lbl...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>
>> > I'll be moving to Texas from Indy this month.
>>
>> You have my sympathy :-).
For the Indy thing or Waco?
>
>Having lived in Dallas for 17 years after Wisconsin and Minnesota, I
>second that :_<
>
>As for your immediate problem: it is possible to find houses with
>basements but they are very rare. Air conditioning is an absolute
>necessity for what ever space you decide on for your layout.
But (wait for it)... it's a dry heat...
It does look like the subdivision I'm going to buy in does allow you to
build an detached garage. Space for woodworking and trains. Its always
handy to have the RAS close at hand when doing benchwork.
We were talking to a builder who pointed to the detached shop next door
and quoted the $32k price. My wife about fainted. I think I could do
most of the work of building an outbuilding and save some of that cost.
--
Dana Miller
mark_newton
> I've been watching but not partcipating in this thread.
>
> Mark Newton, Proctor, Terry Flynn, all from down there
Greg Proctor is from New Zealand, another, entirely different, country.
Jim, I often read of how little some Americans know of the world beyond
their borders - is this another example?
> and now Haddad.
Ray Haddad is an expat American, according to his previous posts. So
much for *that* bit of stereotyping...
> Is it that they are in the midst of winter, cooped up indoors and
> have too much time on their hands?
Again, I often read of how little some Americans know of the world
beyond their borders - in the midst of our winter, I'm wearing shorts
and a teeshirt, the current temperature here is 74 degrees, and there's
blue sky and sunshine. Maybe tonight I *might* put on a warmer shirt.
How's the weather there in winter? ;-)
mark_newton
Pig's arse. Bruce has never "ranted" about or "decried" political
discussion on r.m.r. You've got the wrong bloke.
Cheers,
Mark.
Ray Haddad
and "Bruce Favinger" <bwf...@swbell.net> instead replied:
>You've been called. Show your hand or quit. Bruce
You've shown yours and you are a moron. Deal with it.
--
Ray
Ray Haddad
and mark_newton <mark_...@optusnet.com.au> instead replied:
Of course he has. Often.
>Cheers,
Cheers back at ya, mate! Bruce constantly disallows any disagreement
with his rants. Either you agree with him or you are not allowed to
argue with him. That's a fact. That's what I refer to when I say he
decries political rants. Except his own.
Don't try and defend him, mate. He's not worth the effort.
--
Ray
Bruce Favinger
Sounds like a mighty fine winter. I wish it was like that here right now.
The AC unit in the train shed is being strained to the max already and its
going to get hotter.Worse it been so dry for so long the shed has shifted a
great deal. A window busted and the doors had to all be reset. Even though
the layout is built along the walls its mostly self supporting so the bench
work is ok. Still I've been looking at some steel buildings I could put on a
slab and finish out a area for the trains. How's your baby boy? Hope all is
well with the family. Bruce.
"mark_newton" <mark_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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Bruce Favinger
Ray,
While what you say about my not allowing disagreement with a political
rant or comment
may be a stretch you could find ways to support that allegation. But that's
not what you said. You said that I decried or complained about the political
posts on RMR. Now as far as this new meaning you have applied to your
statement it's not possible for me to have the control to not allow someone
to disagree with me. Are you so intimidated and cowed that you feel
dis-allowed by mere words? I seriously doubt you are. It appears that since
you can not support your original statement you are now looking for a way to
justify an inaccuracy. Bruce
Steve Caple
> It does look like the subdivision I'm going to buy in does allow you to
> build an detached garage. Space for woodworking and trains.
Better yet, a detached garage with a huge basement, one perhaps even bigger
than the above ground part (do one of those living deck roofs over the
excess to the above ground footprint, sort of a huge raised bed vegetable
garden) . . .
--
Steve
Ray Haddad
and "Bruce Favinger" <bwf...@swbell.net> instead replied:
>While what you say about my not allowing disagreement with a political
>rant or comment
>may be a stretch you could find ways to support that allegation. But that's
>not what you said. You said that I decried or complained about the political
>posts on RMR.
That's the same thing, moron. Besides, I changed my mind. My rules.
You're a really DUMB moron.
You do NOT allow for dissenting opinions on your idiotic political
rants and therefore you remain a moron. Deal.
Now, do you want to discuss model railroading or continue to be a
moron?
--
Ray
fl@liner
Just a thought here, but does Jim Walters do garages?
fl@liner
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Bruce Favinger
I rather talk trains than endlessly butt heads. So what do you model? Bruce
"Ray Haddad" <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote in message
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Ray Haddad
and "Bruce Favinger" <bwf...@swbell.net> instead replied:
>I rather talk trains than endlessly butt heads. So what do you model?
Bless you.
I model N; Pennsy, Penn Central, New Haven - all my own mix of eras
that are absolutely non prototype. I like the way the roadnames look
together. I grew up in CT where all three were something I could
view. I remember working steam coming past my house at least once a
week.
--
Ray
Bruce Favinger
Yes, much better.
I'm originally from north of Bethlehem PA. The first railroads I can
remember were the Lehigh Valley and the Pennsy but too late for steam or at
least I don't remember seeing any. When we moved out west I did have the
good fortune to see the very last days of steam in Wyoming. I also developed
an interest for narrow gauge trains. About six years ago I started looking
into old railroads in north central Texas where I've lived for many years.
At first it was just a side interest to see what I could dig up but now I'm
modeling a shortline in HO called the Texas Midland. Semi Prototype.
After reading quite a few posts from down under I started looking at the
NSWGR. Neat stuff. Have you ever looked into modeling some of the Australian
railroads? Bruce
Ray Haddad
and "Bruce Favinger" <bwf...@swbell.net> instead replied:
>"Ray Haddad" <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote in message
>news:rf90b25k4v7dku2nv...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 08 Jul 2006 17:46:45 GMT, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
>> and "Bruce Favinger" <bwf...@swbell.net> instead replied:
>>
>>>I rather talk trains than endlessly butt heads. So what do you model?
>>
>> Bless you.
>>
>> I model N; Pennsy, Penn Central, New Haven - all my own mix of eras
>> that are absolutely non prototype. I like the way the roadnames look
>> together. I grew up in CT where all three were something I could
>> view. I remember working steam coming past my house at least once a
>> week.
>
>Yes, much better.
> I'm originally from north of Bethlehem PA. The first railroads I can
>remember were the Lehigh Valley and the Pennsy but too late for steam or at
>least I don't remember seeing any. When we moved out west I did have the
>good fortune to see the very last days of steam in Wyoming. I also developed
>an interest for narrow gauge trains. About six years ago I started looking
>into old railroads in north central Texas where I've lived for many years.
>At first it was just a side interest to see what I could dig up but now I'm
>modeling a shortline in HO called the Texas Midland. Semi Prototype.
> After reading quite a few posts from down under I started looking at the
>NSWGR. Neat stuff. Have you ever looked into modeling some of the Australian
>railroads? Bruce
Their trains are still strange looking to me. At least the consists
are. Besides, my modeling of familar childhood memories comforts me.
I do enjoy train watching when I see one and have actually walked
across bridges where interesting yard layouts happen to catch my
eye.
The local Perth public transport system has a wonderful train that
moves with fabulous regularity along several corridors that criss
cross Perth and enhance the bus system. It's a beautiful train, too.
Bruce Favinger
Ray,
It looks like Perth has a very good public transit system. Our DART system
trains got a very late start and do not cover the area near as well as
TransPerth. They are really nice trains though and basically service the
main North / South corridor of Dallas. The system is slowly being expanded.
http://www.dart.org/default.asp .
DART connects with the McKinney Ave. Trolley. This is the one we like to
ride the most.
http://world.nycsubway.org/us/dallas/dallas-mata.html
Dart also hooks up with the TRE that moves passengers between Dallas and Ft
Worth.
http://www.trinityrailwayexpress.org/
When I moved here in 1980 none of this was in existence. Commuter rail and
public transportation down here is way behind, poor or non existent. Pretty
much if you live in Texas, even Dallas or Houston and don't have a good car
or truck you are stuck The trains here basically move people from downtown
to giant parking lots along the routes because chances are there is no bus
or train that will go real close to where you live. Bruce
Ray Haddad
> It looks like Perth has a very good public transit system. Our DART system
>trains got a very late start and do not cover the area near as well as
>TransPerth. They are really nice trains though and basically service the
>main North / South corridor of Dallas. The system is slowly being expanded.
>http://www.dart.org/default.asp .
I love a pretty train. My favorite is the San Diego trolley system.
Bright red and lots of glass.
>DART connects with the McKinney Ave. Trolley. This is the one we like to
>ride the most.
>http://world.nycsubway.org/us/dallas/dallas-mata.html
Dallas is so flat. Must be easy on energy.
>Dart also hooks up with the TRE that moves passengers between Dallas and Ft
>Worth.
>http://www.trinityrailwayexpress.org/
>
>When I moved here in 1980 none of this was in existence. Commuter rail and
>public transportation down here is way behind, poor or non existent. Pretty
>much if you live in Texas, even Dallas or Houston and don't have a good car
>or truck you are stuck The trains here basically move people from downtown
>to giant parking lots along the routes because chances are there is no bus
>or train that will go real close to where you live. Bruce
I like the Perth TransPerth system so well I may build it into my
layout. Now, to go and scout a place to put it. Sigh . . .
--
Ray
fl@liner
North Texas' publictransit is so far behind because of the
way the area developed. There are very few areas that hve
the population density of the northern and eastern parts of
the country. The whole area grew up with the automobile,
and public transportation was pretty much ignored, except
for the downtown areas. The trollies and more modern street
cars then lost out to the busses. The busses never were
very popular with other than low income riders, which doomed
them even more in the peneral publc's eye.
Things are changing now, and ridership has passed all
expectations, especially on the North Central corridor.
Bruce Favinger
be fairly full most times we've gone. How about the TRE, are they getting
good numbers too? Bruce
"fl@liner" <fu...@sok.net> wrote in message
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Rick Jones
>
> When I moved here in 1980 none of this was in existence. Commuter rail and
> public transportation down here is way behind, poor or non existent. Pretty
> much if you live in Texas, even Dallas or Houston and don't have a good car
> or truck you are stuck The trains here basically move people from downtown
> to giant parking lots along the routes because chances are there is no bus
> or train that will go real close to where you live. Bruce
Definitely confirmed for the Houston area. I moved here from
Southern California several years ago. There's only one light rail line,
going from downtown to Reliant Stadium. It's perhaps the most useless
link they could have built compared to where light rail really needs to
be built to alleviate traffic congestion.
Houston is about at the point that San Diego and Los Angeles were 2
to 3 decades ago when they began their Metrorail lines. I've ridden both
of those systems. It's going to be a very long time before this town
catches up.
--
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The John Birch Society has announced that they will no longer
allow their children to attend schools that teach sex education.
This is certain to lead to a lot of ignorant daughters and sons
of Birchers.
Bruce Favinger
My wife and I have been going down to the beach at Galveston for many
years. Houston has always been a traffic obstacle. Sometimes I think we
could get down to Padre Island quicker. We time it so we avoid the Houston
rush hour but that does not always help. Though a dinner at Guido's as soon
as we get to the beach is worth it. Bruce
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Bruce Burden
: It's going to be a very long time before this town
: catches up.
:
Assuming that there is any interest in catching up.
Austin voters approved a light rail line from Cedar
Park to downtown Austin, but Crap Metro is in charge, so
I expect it will be as overbudget, underutilized and
unreliable as everything else Crap Metro "manages".
Years ago, Crap Metro sent a talking head out to
where I work, and attempted to convert us to the wonders
of public transportation (ie, busses). For some strange
reason, nobody seemed interested in the presentation.
Of course, Austin is being surrounded by tollways,
so there is no reason for public transportation, right?
Bruce
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- Thuganlitha
The Power and the Prophet
Robert Don Hughes
Bruce Burden
:
: The trains here basically move people from downtown
: or train that will go real close to where you live. Bruce
Amazing how the simply act of coordinating bus and
rail lines seems to be far beyond the various agencies
responsible, isn't it?
When I lived in S. Florida, the commisioners responsible
for "Tri-Rail" were at a loss to explain their lack of rider
ship. For some reason, nobody saw anything wrong with a rail
line (FEC trackage) that took people from less than desirable
areas and dumped them in either downtown Miami or somewhere
in Palm Beach.
Stupid line didn't run to the Miami airport because the
cabbies got their femanine undergarments in a bunch over the
lost reveune, and there was zip, zero, nada coordination between
the tri-rail pols and the various bus pols - each was way too
jealous of "their" turf, I expect.
fl@liner
<bwf...@swbell.net> wrote:
I've never ridden on the TRE except for the opening (free)
weekend. We've been away from N Texas for over 2 yrs now,
but the TRE parking lots at Bell and Irving were always full
when I drove by during the week at working hours. The
lot(s) at Bell were pretty good sized too...
fl@liner
<bwf...@swbell.net> wrote:
>Rick,
> My wife and I have been going down to the beach at Galveston for many
>years. Houston has always been a traffic obstacle. Sometimes I think we
>could get down to Padre Island quicker. We time it so we avoid the Houston
>rush hour but that does not always help. Though a dinner at Guido's as soon
>as we get to the beach is worth it. Bruce
>
Or you could stop at Joe Lee's on the channel at Clear Lake
Great seafood, even my wife ate it!
Bruce Favinger
down there. Bruce
"fl@liner" <fu...@sok.net> wrote in message
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Rick Jones
> Thanks for tip. We'll check out Joe Lee's one night the next time we are
> down there. Bruce
>
> "fl@liner" <fu...@sok.net> wrote in message
>>
>>> My wife and I have been going down to the beach at Galveston for many
>>> years. Houston has always been a traffic obstacle. Sometimes I think we
>>> could get down to Padre Island quicker. We time it so we avoid the Houston
>>> rush hour but that does not always help. Though a dinner at Guido's as
>>> soon
>>> as we get to the beach is worth it. Bruce
>>>
>> Or you could stop at Joe Lee's on the channel at Clear Lake
>> Great seafood, even my wife ate it!
And then there's the Kemah Boardwalk. Of course, everything there is
owned by Landry's, so if you don't care for their restaurants...
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