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Dan Merkel

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Feb 24, 2004, 2:42:57 PM2/24/04
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Several years ago, Walthers offered building papers... these were sheets of
a heavy paper with bricks, stone, shingles and things like that printed on
them. The paper was pretty heavy, but still flexible. It was gray in color
and reminded me of the kind of material that cereal boxes are made out of,
only much thinner.

Well, now with the advent of personal computers, I'd like to print my own
"building papers" from time to time. Anyone out there have any ideas where
I might be able to find similar paper? I work for a company that has a
rather large print shop, but they couldn't get anything. I doubt if any of
the office supply places would have anything like it either. It certainly
seems like a specialty item.

Ideas anyone?

dlm
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Dan Merkel


George

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Feb 24, 2004, 10:34:14 PM2/24/04
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You might look at an arts and crafts store like Michaels for Strathmore
Bristol paper. It's white, but it's heavy, yet will run through an HP
printer.
George

"Steve Hoskins" <sjhho...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 14:42:57 -0500, "Dan Merkel" <dme...@bright.net>
> wrote :

> Try a paper supplier....not sure what part of the country you're from,
> but out here in California, there's Kelly Paper, for example. They
> have all sorts of specialty papers in all colors.
>
> Might even want to try a local copy center, such as Kinko's, they do a
> lot of specialty work on colored papers too.


Steve Caple

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Feb 25, 2004, 5:19:17 AM2/25/04
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George wrote:
> it's heavy, yet will run through an HP printer.

Maybe an HP LJ-III with the back gate open, but problematic in
an LJ4 and worse since, except perhaps in their high end
business line. Paper paths in most laser printers are absurd.

Some of the ink jets have relatively straight-through paths,
but not all. Evidently it's not stylish - the toaster
mentality at work.

--
Steve Caple

George

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Feb 25, 2004, 6:58:22 AM2/25/04
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My printer is an HP 932C, that feeds from the front and spits out the paper
to the front. It takes the paper without any problems. I'm not sure how
paper is rated, but the pad contains 20 sheets and says "100lb. (260g/m²)".
George

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Corelane

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Feb 25, 2004, 9:06:15 AM2/25/04
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>>I'm not sure how paper is rated, but the pad contains 20 sheets and says
"100lb. (260g/m²)".

Hint: it's not 5 pounds per sheet. *grin*
Regular bond paper is '20lb', so that paper is 5 times as heavy per case.

What pattern do you use to print? Make your own or got something off the web?
...Bill

Wolf Kirchmeir

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Feb 25, 2004, 10:05:36 AM2/25/04
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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 14:42:57 -0500, Dan Merkel wrote:

=>Several years ago, Walthers offered building papers... these were sheets of
=>a heavy paper with bricks, stone, shingles and things like that printed on
=>them. The paper was pretty heavy, but still flexible. It was gray in color
=>and reminded me of the kind of material that cereal boxes are made out of,
=>only much thinner.
=>
=>Well, now with the advent of personal computers, I'd like to print my own
=>"building papers" from time to time. Anyone out there have any ideas where
=>I might be able to find similar paper? I work for a company that has a
=>rather large print shop, but they couldn't get anything. I doubt if any of
=>the office supply places would have anything like it either. It certainly
=>seems like a specialty item.
=>
=>Ideas anyone?
=>
=>dlm
=>---------------------------
=>Dan Merkel

Try "construction paper", maybe? What you get in the dollar store (useta be
the dime store) is too light weight, but an art supplies store should have
heavier weights. One advantage is that the stuff comes in all kinds of earth
colours (as well as the more garish ones). Or try medium weight water colour
papers - theyr'e not grey, but you could colour them before you print them.
OTOH, watercolour paper is expensive. Then there are papers for charcoal and
pastel drawing in various greys, reds, browns, etc - again, pricey, but
available in several weights.

HTH

Wolf Kirchmeir
.................................
If you didn't want to go to Chicago, why did you get on this train?
(Garrison Keillor)
<just one w and plain ca for correct address>


Dan Merkel

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Feb 25, 2004, 4:30:01 PM2/25/04
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"Corelane" <core...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> What pattern do you use to print? Make your own or got something off the
web?
> ...Bill

One of the photo programs I have has a brick fill image in it. It works
pretty good. I fill a small area, then modify a few of the bricks so as to
break up the pattern. Then I use that pattern to fill a larger area. If
necessary, I repeat the process until I get a pattern that doesn't repeat
itself every four or five bricks.

dlm


Trainman

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Feb 25, 2004, 7:22:44 PM2/25/04
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Wolf Kirchmeir <wwol...@sympatico.can> wrote in message
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I think "construction paper" would be too soft and pourous to print on. The
ink would just soak in and blur (at least the "construction paper" I
remember from making valentines for Mom in grade school).

My printer (an HP 5550) takes up to 90 weight card (basically the weight of
a 3x5 file card) with no trouble, and prints very well.

Don


Steve Caple

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Feb 25, 2004, 9:16:58 PM2/25/04
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Trainman wrote:
> I think "construction paper" would be too soft and pourous to print on. The
> ink would just soak in and blur (at least the "construction paper" I
> remember from making valentines for Mom in grade school).
>
> My printer (an HP 5550) takes up to 90 weight card (basically the weight of
> a 3x5 file card) with no trouble, and prints very well.

"cover stock" is a common name for the 60 to 80 lb paper you
seem to be talking about.

--
Steve Caple

Jeff

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Feb 26, 2004, 9:46:46 AM2/26/04
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I would recommend printing your images on regular paper then using
rubber cement you could mount this on a nice thick cover stock or
better yet onto some foam board that you can get at framing shops,
hobby stores, etc. The foam board would be very thick but lightweight
and it's easy to cut. It depends, of course, on what you are building
but for temporary structures and such I think the foam core board
would work much, much better than anything you could get through your
printer.

Jeff


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Wolf Kirchmeir

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Feb 26, 2004, 10:29:07 AM2/26/04
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On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 00:22:44 GMT, Trainman wrote:

=>I think "construction paper" would be too soft and pourous to print on. The
=>ink would just soak in and blur (at least the "construction paper" I
=>remember from making valentines for Mom in grade school).

Agreed, there are brands of construction paper that would probbaly not be
suitable. One would have to experiment. The package I bought at an art supply
store, however, is much better stuff. I haven't used it for printing, though,
so can't comment on that. I'll try it, and report back.

wanna...@cogeco.cant

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Feb 26, 2004, 11:32:50 AM2/26/04
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I would suggest printing on Matte Photo paper as opposed to regular paper.
You get a much better reproduction on Photo paper as the ink does not soak
in and spread as it does with regular paper.

--
Will
HO - Credit Valley Railway
www.muskokacomputes.com/CVR_Home.htm


Wolf Kirchmeir

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Feb 26, 2004, 11:08:55 AM2/26/04
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On 26 Feb 2004 06:46:46 -0800, Jeff wrote:

=>I would recommend printing your images on regular paper then using
=>rubber cement you could mount this on a nice thick cover stock or
=>better yet onto some foam board that you can get at framing shops,
=>hobby stores, etc.

I do _not_ recommend rubber cement. It will react with the air that diffuses
through the paper, turn brown, and discolour whatever it's stuck to. How do I
know? Don't arsk! Rubber cement is intended for temporary bonding only.

If you want to go this paper + backing route, investigate glues etc. made for
bonding photographs to cardstock backing. More expensive, though.

HTH

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