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martin.s...@gmail.com

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Jun 4, 2009, 2:46:37 PM6/4/09
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On Jun 4, 10:01 am, "Anthony Allende" <alle...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
> Kill Bill star David Carradine dies at 72
> Thu, Jun 04 2009 17:27 CET byGabriel Hershman 831 Views
> Film star David Carradine, star of cult TV series Kung Fu and later Quentin
> Tarantino's Kill Bill series, died today in Thailand.
>
> Thai police told the BBC the 72-year-old was found by a hotel maid sitting
> in a wardrobe with a rope around his neck and genitals on Thursday morning.
>
> The local Bangkok newspaper, The Nation, cited unidentified police sources
> as saying Carradine was believed to have committed suicide and had hanged
> himself with a curtain cord in his suite at the Park Nai Lert Hotel.
>
> The US star was in Thailand filming his latest film Stretch, according to
> his personal manager Chuck Binder. Binder described the news as "shocking
> and sad", adding: "He was full of life, always wanting to work... a great
> person."
>
> Carradine was best known for his role as Kwai Chang Caine in the 1970s TV
> series Kung Fu, which spawned sequels in the 1980s and 1990s. The series
> became cult viewing. Each episode saw the slow to anger Carradine arrive in
> a new town only to be - reluctantly - goaded into violence by ignorant and
> frequently racist hillbillies.
>
> Carradine was also known for his roles in Martin Scorcese's Boxcar Bertha
> (1972) and as Bill in Quentin Tarantino''s Kill Bill (Vols. 1 & 2 (2003,
> 2004, respectively).
>
> More recently, he portrayed Tempus, a powerful demon with the ability to
> manipulate time, on the hit television series Charmed.
>
> On December 26, 2004, he married his wife Annie, at the seaside Malibu home
> of his friend Michael Madsen.

He should have stuck to beating his meat.

Martin

Robert of St Louis

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Jun 4, 2009, 2:52:17 PM6/4/09
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More information than we needed. I was never a fan, so it is the same
category of Brittany Spears for me.

M'Balz Es-Hari

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Jun 4, 2009, 7:11:11 PM6/4/09
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On Jun 4, 1:46 pm, martin.secrest...@gmail.com wrote:

Jeeez!
You gotta wonder what's the last thought going through someone's head
(the bigger one) just before the end.
"Someone's gonna find me like this?".

Herbert Cannon

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Jun 4, 2009, 8:42:09 PM6/4/09
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Herbert Cannon

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martin.s...@gmail.com

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Jun 5, 2009, 8:05:21 AM6/5/09
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On Jun 4, 11:54 am, martin.secrest...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Fine ending for an old multiculturalist liberal. (Willy Nelson
> recently stated in public that "my body has outlived
> my dick"  but I figure he can still use his well-exercised tongue.- Hide quoted text -

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypoxyphilia

Martin

William Boyd

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Jun 5, 2009, 9:53:11 AM6/5/09
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In my travels in the military I spent a lot of time in Thailand. For
some one to have suffered the death Carradine did is the penalty for
insulting a very prominent Thai woman.

--
BILL P.
&
DOG

freeisbest

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Jun 5, 2009, 9:57:06 AM6/5/09
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On Jun 5, 9:53 am, William Boyd <williamb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
-snip-

> In my travels in the military I spent a lot of time in Thailand.
For
> some one to have suffered the death Carradine did is the penalty
> for insulting a very prominent Thai woman.

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That's an interesting if horrifying explanation. What a sad
ending for the poor soul.

Herbert Cannon

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Jun 5, 2009, 10:00:09 AM6/5/09
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"freeisbest" <demeter...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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**********************

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENyGj_NQKkU


Bluuuue Rajah

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Jun 5, 2009, 10:34:59 AM6/5/09
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William Boyd <willi...@hotmail.com> wrote in
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Link please?

Bluuuue Rajah

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Jun 5, 2009, 10:35:38 AM6/5/09
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"Herbert Cannon" <hcan...@cox.net> wrote in
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> "freeisbest" <demeter...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> news:72bb0065-5edf-416d-95ec-e58ce5a28e60
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> .. On Jun 5, 9:53 am, William Boyd <williamb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> -snip-
> > In my travels in the military I spent a lot of time in Thailand.
> For
>> some one to have suffered the death Carradine did is the penalty
> > for insulting a very prominent Thai woman.
>
> **********************
>
> That's an interesting if horrifying explanation. What a sad
> ending for the poor soul.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENyGj_NQKkU

There would be signs of a struggle.

Herbert Cannon

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Jun 5, 2009, 11:11:18 AM6/5/09
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"Bluuuue Rajah" <Bluuuuue@Rajah.> wrote in message
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkUFv0xbdrw&feature=related


thai tie

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Jun 5, 2009, 12:16:36 PM6/5/09
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William Boyd <willi...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>In my travels in the military I spent a lot of time in Thailand. For
>some one to have suffered the death Carradine did is the penalty for
>insulting a very prominent Thai woman.

Or maybe he just had an unfortunate encounter with a katooey who's into
S&M/B&D...

Flas...@live.com

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Jun 5, 2009, 12:22:12 PM6/5/09
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On Jun 5, 8:05 am, martin.secrest...@gmail.com wrote:

> > > > his personal manager Chuck Binder. Binder described the news as "shocking
> > > > and sad", adding: "He was full of life, always wanting to work... a great
> > > > person."
>

> > > > ...cult viewing. Each episode saw the slow to anger Carradine arrive in


> > > > a new town only to be - reluctantly - goaded into violence by ignorant and
> > > > frequently racist hillbillies.
>

> > > He should have stuck to beating his meat.
>

> > Fine ending for an old multiculturalist liberal. (Willy Nelson
> > recently stated in public that "my body has outlived

> > my dick" -- but I figure ...
>
> Martin


They don't call it Bangkok for nothing. It's where not everyone has
much money to speak of -- coupled with an Eastern mannerism of
relatively relaxed latitude regarding sexual dispensation -- which is
aways from Plato, Arthurian, and Constantine to Augustinian baggage.

Regardless, I like David. The man first directly behind the fantasy
mask of another from urban, Eastern beds of a rough-&-tumble legend,
not far away, where lies the home of Hong Kong's prodigal son, Bruce
Lee, once prominently tied to David's fate. Bruce, no doubt, would be
first to admit the competition is fiercest at the Tiger's Rim.

Tough enough place for a young man to keep his wits ... a man, an
actor's son from within means and of birth ceded to an upstanding
setting, now 72 years and out wandering about ... Kung Fu paradigm
withstanding, or should I say outstanding, as if to return for a final
match to meet his karmic debt.

The make-up off, gestures less purposeful, naught for a tawdry stage,
and little of David's legacy of vested talent to broaden a Western
appreciation of mystical aspects of the Eastern with both the
fantastical and symbolic.

Appears he would have remained a man true to a man of his own imagine
to the end, whatever sundry attachments to his bodily parts impugn --
a ludicrous suggestion, as I'd rather, than otherwise conceive import
over these details, regarding how he chose privately to live out his
life. His wives and marriages. His surviving daughters.

Difficulties, then, more of an unfortunate placement, situationally so
distanced for a turn less barbaric, than of culpability and magnitude
tragically perceived for desecration. Getting the truth out of a man
getting along and older -- of questionable motive, if not entirely out
of his element in a promiscuous setting -- being a gist more than of
simple apparency to ally in immediacy to ill-suited conjectures.

Billzz

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Jun 5, 2009, 2:04:02 PM6/5/09
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"Bluuuue Rajah" <Bluuuuue@Rajah.> wrote in message
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Here's one...

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0605092carradine1.html


Bluuuue Rajah

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Jun 5, 2009, 2:42:32 PM6/5/09
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"Billzz" <billzz...@starband.net> wrote in
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A link about insulting a prominent Thai woman, please.

Bluuuue Rajah

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Jun 5, 2009, 2:43:48 PM6/5/09
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"Herbert Cannon" <hcan...@cox.net> wrote in
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I charge $50 to click that link.

Slim

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Jun 5, 2009, 7:49:24 PM6/5/09
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Like having her hubby find out she was fucking him?

--
"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in
England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after
all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it
is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a
democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist
dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to
the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL
THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of
patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY
COUNTRY."

--Goering at the Nuremberg Trials

Slim

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Jun 5, 2009, 7:52:11 PM6/5/09
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Nope.

Slim

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Jun 5, 2009, 7:53:28 PM6/5/09
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I guess Raj is confused.

In his country, its the women who are killed. ;-)

M.Balarama

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Jun 5, 2009, 8:00:10 PM6/5/09
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"Slim" <sl...@pickins.com> wrote in message
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weird quoting a drug addict guy--but I have been in these third world
countries-and you better watch your ass-especially if you have $$$$
>


Bluuuue Rajah

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Jun 5, 2009, 8:31:07 PM6/5/09
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Slim <sl...@pickins.com> wrote in
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> On 2009-06-05 10:35:38 -0400, Bluuuue Rajah <Bluuuuue@Rajah.> said:
>
>> "Herbert Cannon" <hcan...@cox.net> wrote in
>> news:Px9Wl.3646$IP7....@newsfe23.iad:
>>>
>>> "freeisbest" <demeter...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:72bb0065-5edf-416d-95ec-e58ce5a28e60
>> @e24g2000vbe.googlegroups.com.
>>> .. On Jun 5, 9:53 am, William Boyd <williamb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> -snip-
>>>> In my travels in the military I spent a lot of time in Thailand.
>>> For
>>>> some one to have suffered the death Carradine did is the penalty
>>>> for insulting a very prominent Thai woman.
>>>
>>> **********************
>>>
>>> That's an interesting if horrifying explanation. What a sad
>>> ending for the poor soul.
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENyGj_NQKkU
>>
>> There would be signs of a struggle.
>
> Nope.

Yup.

Bluuuue Rajah

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Jun 5, 2009, 8:32:23 PM6/5/09
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Slim <sl...@pickins.com> wrote in
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Google Fah Lo Suee.

bil...@starband.net

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Jun 5, 2009, 10:02:26 PM6/5/09
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My Starband account seems to not be working so I am using Google which
is very time-consuming and insists on multiple log-ins and
verifications by re-typing illegible letteres, but anyway...

The stuff at The Smoking Gun indicates that his life style (and he was
married five time) would indicate depravity of the nature to get a
divorce and also lead one to Bangkok, of where I have not been, and
would have a lot of explanation to my wife, being as how I was in
Vietnam, Korea, and Japan, and I know (second-hand, of course) what
goes on in Bangkok. So I take Bill P's assessment as probably being
correct. I do not think that anyone involved is posting anything to
USENet. I personally think it was a ritual assassination. Drugged
first, then arranged. But of course I do not actually *know*
anything.

Stanley Moore

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<bil...@starband.net> wrote in message
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****************************************************

He was working on a movie being filmed there. Supposedly surveillance
cameras in the hotel indicate he was alone, no one else was involved. I
think being in Bangkok where everyone knows you can get anything you want he
could have found someone to help him get off safely rather than try to do it
himself. Take care
--
Stanley L. Moore
"The belief in a supernatural
source of evil is not necessary;
men alone are quite capable
of every wickedness."
Joseph Conrad


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Bluuuue Rajah

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Jun 7, 2009, 9:18:24 AM6/7/09
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The Wolf With the Red Roses <after-d...@cox.net> wrote in
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> On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 00:32:10 -0500, "Stanley Moore"
> <smoo...@comcast.net> wrote something wonderfully witty:
> <snip>


>>He was working on a movie being filmed there. Supposedly surveillance
>>cameras in the hotel indicate he was alone, no one else was involved.
>>I think being in Bangkok where everyone knows you can get anything you
>>want he could have found someone to help him get off safely rather
>>than try to do it himself. Take care
>>

> Well since one of his Ex's or soon-to-be Ex's alledges he like a walk
> on the wild side I've no doubt that this was probably a normal "habit"
> for him that ended in a "Whoops". It isn't the first time somebody
> doing the double choke (Chicken & Self) screwed the procedure up.

I'm telling you, the hooker who strung him up ran out after the kinky
sex went wrong. It's precisely like John Belushi, except with sex
instead of drugs.

Imaginary Friend

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Jun 7, 2009, 1:08:13 PM6/7/09
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On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 13:18:24 GMT, Bluuuue Rajah <Bluuuuue@Rajah.>
wrote:

Otherwise the surveilance tapes would be on cnn..


Radio, television, newspapers - magazines: it
wouldn't be interesting if they told the truth.

Bluuuue Rajah

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Jun 7, 2009, 2:32:42 PM6/7/09
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Imaginary Friend <no...@home.com> wrote in
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In Thailand? Sure thing.

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