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Logan

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Aug 20, 2002, 1:24:00 AM8/20/02
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From Cesar Gracie's website ( http://www.graciefighter.com ):

Exclusive August 5th:

"Rickson Gracie will be fighting later this year in Japan.
Graciefighter.com has learned that a deal is in the advanced stages
and although we know who his opponent is, we would rather the
announcement be made by the sanctioned organization. -GF "

Well....who is it going to be? Anyone know?

Could it be....Sak? Well, that would be a gift from heaven, now
wouldn't it :-)

Somehow I doubt it though. Rickson knows he'd get creamed by Sak, just
like his brothers and cousins. He's probably fighting some B-guy just
to make some cash.

RobRPM2222

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Aug 20, 2002, 1:34:16 AM8/20/02
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you have caught the correct.

Rickson is fighting Ogawa. Ogawa does have legit judo credentials, being an
Olympic Medalist. However, he also has only done worked fights in MMA, and does
some pro wrestling IIRC.

I expect this to be very similar to Takada vs. Rickson. Ogawa has never shown
any real indications that he wants to do real MMA fights.

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Goshinbudo Jujitsu (MMA) | the human body, and everyone
| invented them." - Dan Inosanto

Ryan Lankford

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Aug 20, 2002, 1:41:15 AM8/20/02
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The smart money is on Ogawa. Rickson won't fight a real fighter.


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RobRPM2222

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Aug 20, 2002, 1:42:57 AM8/20/02
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>I expect this to be very similar to Takada vs. Rickson. Ogawa has never shown
>any real indications that he wants to do real MMA fights.

btw, I am saying that Ogawa doesn't have the heart to be a good fighter- not
that Rickson vs. Takada was a work.

Marqi K. Blount

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Aug 20, 2002, 2:04:14 AM8/20/02
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I don't think Sak would run through Rickson. I've only seen 5 or 6 Rickson
fights, and though he's not one of my favorite fighters, I was impressed. He
hasn't fought many great fighters, but the way he dominates is unmatched.

ViNNY

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Aug 20, 2002, 3:36:44 AM8/20/02
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"Logan" <lzagz...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Inoki is selling Nippon TV a Rickson/Ogawa main event for his next
pseudoshoot show.

-Vin


Logan

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Aug 20, 2002, 1:40:29 PM8/20/02
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robrp...@aol.comInternet (RobRPM2222) wrote in message news:<20020820013416...@mb-mw.aol.com>...

> >From Cesar Gracie's website ( http://www.graciefighter.com ):
> >
> >Exclusive August 5th:
> >
> >"Rickson Gracie will be fighting later this year in Japan.
> >Graciefighter.com has learned that a deal is in the advanced stages
> >and although we know who his opponent is, we would rather the
> >announcement be made by the sanctioned organization. -GF "
> >
> >Well....who is it going to be? Anyone know?
> >
> >Could it be....Sak? Well, that would be a gift from heaven, now
> >wouldn't it :-)
> >
> >Somehow I doubt it though. Rickson knows he'd get creamed by Sak, just
> >like his brothers and cousins. He's probably fighting some B-guy just
> >to make some cash.
>
> you have caught the correct.
>
> Rickson is fighting Ogawa. Ogawa does have legit judo credentials, being an
> Olympic Medalist.

It's the year for the Gracies to be taking on Judo medallists, eh?
First Royce v. Hidehiko, now this.

Logan

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Aug 20, 2002, 1:55:48 PM8/20/02
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"Marqi K. Blount" <chuteb...@softhome.net> wrote in message news:<yZk89.14401$LO1.1...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>...

> I don't think Sak would run through Rickson. I've only seen 5 or 6 Rickson
> fights, and though he's not one of my favorite fighters, I was impressed. He
> hasn't fought many great fighters, but the way he dominates is unmatched.


Sak would win, though, or he would dominate in a draw. Rickson just
doesn't have his athleticism, or his stand up skills, besides which
he's getting old now.

Sak has challenged Rickson though, hasn't he?

Gichoke

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Aug 20, 2002, 2:17:23 PM8/20/02
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>: _Zheroen_

>
>I think it's a bit insulting to Ogawa not to consider him a real
>fighter. Sure, he's been doing the pro-wrestling bit more than
>fighting as of late, but the man is still a world-class judoka.
>Remember the last time a Gracie went up against a world-class judoka,
>what was his name? Kimura, or something like that...

Ben Spijkers vs Renzo happened decades after Kimura-Helio.

Gi

Ryan Lankford

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Aug 20, 2002, 2:21:12 PM8/20/02
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On Tue, 20 Aug 2002 08:17:47 -0400, _Zheroen_
<zagueiro...@lycossucks.comspam> wrote:


>>>Somehow I doubt it though. Rickson knows he'd get creamed by Sak, just
>>>like his brothers and cousins. He's probably fighting some B-guy just
>>>to make some cash.
>>
>>The smart money is on Ogawa. Rickson won't fight a real fighter.
>>
>

>I think it's a bit insulting to Ogawa not to consider him a real
>fighter.

He isn't.

> Sure, he's been doing the pro-wrestling bit more than
>fighting as of late, but the man is still a world-class judoka.

Agreed...world class judoka, but how has he done in MMA? His
competition hasn't been of the highest caliber by any means.

Gichoke

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Aug 20, 2002, 2:25:26 PM8/20/02
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>om: Ryan Lankford

>
>>I think it's a bit insulting to Ogawa not to consider him a real
>>fighter.
>
>He isn't.

He was a silvar medalist in 92.He is MUCH bigger than Rickson.
He has had plenty of worked fights.But his fight with goodridge MAY not have
been.I am not sure.Gary hit him VERY hard, and ogawa was very nearly knocked
out... but in japan it is done in works, so im not sure.
But those that say ogawa has done only works are pretending to know.
They dont.
His fight with satake looked legit.
I dont know either.

Gi

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