Iran - it is over
Herbert Cannon
Sadly, those who had the courage to stand up will be toast. I reckon the era
of Obama's friendship speeches is over. By now, hopefully, he should have
realized you cannot reason with these guys.
Jerry B. Altzman
At least he knows who to invite to the 4 July barbecue.
//jbaltz
--
jerry b. altzman jba...@altzman.com www.jbaltz.com
thank you for contributing to the heat death of the universe.
Herbert Cannon
"Jerry B. Altzman" <jba...@altzman.com> wrote in message
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> on 6/26/2009 3:14 PM Herbert Cannon said the following:
>> http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009/06/26/world/AP-ML-Iran-Election.html
>> Sadly, those who had the courage to stand up will be toast. I reckon the
>> era of Obama's friendship speeches is over. By now, hopefully, he should
>> have realized you cannot reason with these guys.
>
> At least he knows who to invite to the 4 July barbecue.
The North Korean ambassadors?
hal
Just exactly what did you expect Obama to do? Invade Iran? A little
"shock-n-awe" in Tehran? They wouldn't have cared about any harsh
language he hurled their way. And it was already looking a little too
much like the US and Israel were instigators in this. Obama did not
want to make this into a US problem. And rightly so. So the
elections were a sham. The people protested. Another hard-line right
wing dictatorship crushes dissent. Happens all the time.
Herbert Cannon
<hal> wrote in message news:5rgc45tids6ccq80e...@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:14:39 -0500, "Herbert Cannon"
> <hcan...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009/06/26/world/AP-ML-Iran-Election.html
>>Sadly, those who had the courage to stand up will be toast. I reckon the
>>era
>>of Obama's friendship speeches is over. By now, hopefully, he should have
>>realized you cannot reason with these guys.
>>
> Just exactly what did you expect Obama to do?
I expected him to come out much earlier and say we were for the protestors
not the lukewarm response he gave. I imagine those people are going to
remember where we stood for a long time.
Invade Iran?
Nope. That could have the effect of uniting the Iranians behind their
government the last thing we want to happen. They have been unhappy with the
current government for a long time now. If we have any sense ( which I
highly doubt) we will support an underground movement now. The other side
is not equipped to take over the govt anyway and would not offer the
improvements needed.
A little
> "shock-n-awe" in Tehran?
Iran only has two refineries. Knock them out and they are walking. They are
simply not much of a military target. The Iranian govt was scared shitless
when we went to Baghdad in thirty days. They thought they might be next.
Did you know that Iranians put signs on their roofs saying this way when we
sent our bombers into Afghanistan?
They wouldn't have cared about any harsh
> language he hurled their way.
Really? They sure as hell cared about what Great Britain, Germany, and
France said about it. Of course your buddies Putin and Chavez were just
tickled to have Achmaddinnejacket back at the plate.
And it was already looking a little too
> much like the US and Israel were instigators in this.
Right it was a Zionist CIA plot just like the Ayatollahs said.I am sure you
really believe that too. That is why they are now torturing people in the
opposition to get them to confess. Travis is right you are an idiot.
Obama did not
> want to make this into a US problem.
You stupid fuck the Ayatollahs will make this a US problem to try and cover
up their own oppression. IT IS ALREADY IS A US PROBLEM AND HAS BEEN. What
you thing the pussy UN is going to solve the problem. It does not matter
what Obama tries to make it. He is not King of the World like you think.
And rightly so.
Right he is going to make another kissy face speech and talk them out of
nucs. I have a little plot of land to sell you.
So the
> elections were a sham. The people protested. Another hard-line right
> wing dictatorship crushes dissent. Happens all the time.
Whoopee dee do. Then you should not have any problem with us supporting
facist govts right?
First they came for the jews...... All evil needs to succeed ...... you know
the rest. Good reason we should have stayed out of World War II no. Grow a
set of balls.
TravIsGod
> "shock-n-awe" in Tehran? They wouldn't have cared about any harsh
> language he hurled their way. And it was already looking a little too
> much like the US and Israel were instigators in this. Obama did not
> want to make this into a US problem. And rightly so. So the
> elections were a sham. The people protested. Another hard-line right
> wing dictatorship crushes dissent. Happens all the time.
Iran, Venezuela, Cuba...what's the difference?
Trav
suds mcduff
> On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:14:39 -0500, "Herbert Cannon"
> <hcan...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009/06/26/world/AP-ML-Iran-Election.html
>> Sadly, those who had the courage to stand up will be toast. I reckon the era
>> of Obama's friendship speeches is over. By now, hopefully, he should have
>> realized you cannot reason with these guys.
>>
> Just exactly what did you expect Obama to do?
---More right wing bluster is what they expected....shake our fist and
then do nothing, making the US look even weaker...
TravIsGod
> then do nothing, making the US look even weaker...
However, this brutal crackdown including shooting women is making the
Axis of Evil speech a little more credible.
Maybe it's time the world stood up and collectively said no more of
this shit.
Trav
suds mcduff
>> ---More right wing bluster is what they expected....shake our fist and
>> then do nothing, making the US look even weaker...
>
> However, this brutal crackdown including shooting women is making the
> Axis of Evil speech a little more credible.
---The axis of evil speech is what resulted in tightening the mullah's
rule....now you're carrying water for Bush himself, I see....is Cheney's
bucket next, shill?
>
> Maybe it's time the world stood up and collectively said no more of
> this shit.
-----Sure, and arrogant neo cons are just the one's to do it, aren't
they....
Herbert Cannon
"suds mcduff" <sudsmcd...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I think you and Obumo ought to do what you keep doing best - groveling.
hal
how can we say no more of this shit when we do this shit all the time?
>
>Trav
Herbert Cannon
<hal> wrote in message news:gokh4554jm8pmri02...@4ax.com...
hal
your kind will shoot women without hesitation if it's good for
profits. You do it all the time.
>
TravIsGod
> rule....now you're carrying water for Bush himself, I see....is Cheney's
> bucket next, shill?
The Axis of Evil speech was CORRECT.
LOOK AT WHAT THEY ARE DOING OVER THERE!
Even ORuxpin has the "condemn them" tape in his back now!
> -----Sure, and arrogant neo cons are just the one's to do it, aren't
> they....
No, we will send people like you to do it. Hopefully most of you
don't come back.
Trav
TravIsGod
When is the last time a protestor was shot in the USA?
And if you had a brain, you'd have seen that I have REPEATEDLY called
for a complete overhaul of US foreign policy, including wholesale
military disengagement, repeal of the patriot act, war on drugs, and a
host of other insane initiatives that are artifacts of the leviathan
fascist corporatocracy.
Keep on cheerleading tho...
Trav
TravIsGod
> profits. You do it all the time.
His kind is not in power. Who is doing the shooting now?
Are we out of Iraq and Afghanistan? You told us Afghanistan was about
a pipeline and last I heard we are sending MORE troops there. Have
the missiles stopped falling on houses in Pakistan?
His kind is your kind. You need to annihilate each other and leave
the peace loving intelligent people to live in harmony.
Trav
Slim
Too much money to be made on war....peace is bad for business.
--
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and
carrying the cross." - Sinclair Lewis
Slim
100,000 innocent men, women and children killed in Iraq and the count
gets higher every day.
Slim
>> ---The axis of evil speech is what resulted in tightening the mullah's
>> rule....now you're carrying water for Bush himself, I see....is Cheney's
>> bucket next, shill?
>
> The Axis of Evil speech was CORRECT.
>
> LOOK AT WHAT THEY ARE DOING OVER THERE!
YES! LOOK!!!! We invaded a country that was no threat to us based on a
pack of lies and the lust for cash.
Over 100,000 innocent people killed over a fucking pipeline to make the
rich richer.
Herbert Cannon
"Slim" <sl...@pickins.com> wrote in message
news:2009062912303327544-slim@pickinscom...
> On 2009-06-29 05:00:56 -0400, suds mcduff <sudsmcd...@yahoo.com>
> said:
>
>> TravIsGod wrote:
>>>> ---More right wing bluster is what they expected....shake our fist and
>>>> then do nothing, making the US look even weaker...
>>>
>>> However, this brutal crackdown including shooting women is making the
>>> Axis of Evil speech a little more credible.
>>
>> ---The axis of evil speech is what resulted in tightening the mullah's
>> rule....now you're carrying water for Bush himself, I see....is Cheney's
>> bucket next, shill?
>>
>>>
>>> Maybe it's time the world stood up and collectively said no more of
>>> this shit.
>>
>> -----Sure, and arrogant neo cons are just the one's to do it, aren't
>> they....
>
> Too much money to be made on war....peace is bad for business.
>
bigger one so we can get rid of you in doublequick time.
Herbert Cannon
> On 2009-06-29 11:11:00 -0400, hal said:
>
>> On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:05:50 -0500, "Herbert Cannon"
>> <hcan...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> <hal> wrote in message
>>> news:gokh4554jm8pmri02...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:01:06 -0700 (PDT), TravIsGod
>>>> <trav...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> ---More right wing bluster is what they expected....shake our fist
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> then do nothing, making the US look even weaker...
>>>>>
>>>>> However, this brutal crackdown including shooting women is making the
>>>>> Axis of Evil speech a little more credible.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe it's time the world stood up and collectively said no more of
>>>>> this shit.
>>>>
>>>> how can we say no more of this shit when we do this shit all the time?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>> BULLSHIT
>>
>> your kind will shoot women without hesitation if it's good for
>> profits. You do it all the time.
>
> 100,000 innocent men, women and children killed in Iraq and the count gets
> higher every day.
>
Slim
Hope you are next.
hal
>>
>> your kind will shoot women without hesitation if it's good for
>> profits. You do it all the time.
>
>100,000 innocent men, women and children killed in Iraq and the count
>gets higher every day.
100,000 ? Try a million. A very, very realistic number of the people
murdered in Iraq is a million. Murdered in cold blood so people like
Herb can have their SUVs
Herbert Cannon
<hal> wrote in message news:cm8i45dq15pqko0go...@4ax.com...
And you peddle a cycle and your usual inane bullshit.
Herbert Cannon
>>>
>> More people get murdered here in a couple of years. Sounds pretty safe.
>
> Hope you are next.
Not hardly.
hal
you have no conscience. You have no morals. You gladly go along with
the murder of a million Iraqis for absolutely no reason. I don't how
you look yourself in the mirror.
>
Herbert Cannon
<hal> wrote in message news:c6oi451ihcha1ugtd...@4ax.com...
TravIsGod
blablabla next time it'll be 20million.
Your numbers are utter bullshit.
You drove to your neighbor's $3/4M house, right?
Trav
hal
<hcan...@cox.net> wrote:
The US murdered a million Iraqis. There were no WMDs in Iraq. Look
it up.
Herbert Cannon
>>> you have no conscience. You have no morals. You gladly go along with
>>> the murder of a million Iraqis for absolutely no reason. I don't how
>>> you look yourself in the mirror.
>>>
>>You are absolutely full of shit.
>>
> The US murdered a million Iraqis. There were no WMDs in Iraq. Look
> it up.
Listen you fucking fool, there are no reliable studies on civilian
casualties for the Iraqi war. Many of the so called studies have already
been discredited. They existed so whining morons like you can scream mea
culpa and flagellate yourself in public.
The US does not deliberately target civilians. We target military targets
and command and control centers. That is how you take out an enemy.
It is well known that the Republican Guard placed tanks and artillery in
populated centers over the protests of their own people, some of whom they
shot for protesting. They were trying to use their own people as shields.
That is no difference from terrorists, who open fire from a civilian crowd.
If you do not fire back, they kill you. If you do, you will hit some
civilians. The terrorist are the ones that get civilians killed. The
Republican Guard with those same tactics got some of their own civilians
killed. It also well documented that the civilians were extremely careless
about going into areas where firefights were taking place. Nevertheless,
there are no accurate figures on the civilian death toll. However, we were
in Baghdad in 30 days.
We cannot be responible for the Shiites and Sunnis killing each other. They
have been doing that for centuries and will be doing it long after we leave
Iraqi. We are no responsible for that than you are for the murder rate in
New Orleans.
hal
<hcan...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>>> you have no conscience. You have no morals. You gladly go along with
>>>> the murder of a million Iraqis for absolutely no reason. I don't how
>>>> you look yourself in the mirror.
>>>>
>>>You are absolutely full of shit.
>>>
>> The US murdered a million Iraqis. There were no WMDs in Iraq. Look
>> it up.
>
>Listen you fucking fool, there are no reliable studies on civilian
>casualties for the Iraqi war. Many of the so called studies have already
>been discredited.
no they have not. Only denied. There is a difference.
Mike K.
> >You are absolutely full of shit.
>
> The US murdered a million Iraqis. There were no WMDs in Iraq. Look
> it up.- Hide quoted text -
Your facts are in error. You have been shown that they are in error,
and why they are in error, on multiple occasions. Why do you continue
in your deceit?
-Mike K.
Herbert Cannon
<hal> wrote in message news:6t0k45tki2072i62k...@4ax.com...
Apparently, you are too stupid to figure out what it is.
>
>
Slim
The deaths of so many is just dismissed as "inane bullshit"?
You are one sick puppy.
Slim
Thats right, you live as a virtual prisoner in your compound.
Slim
Seems he struck a chord with you, Popgun.
Slim
WHACK! WHACK! WHACK! The hits keep on coming!
Slim
> On Jun 29, 10:05�pm, hal wrote:
>
>>> You are absolutely full of shit.
>>
>> The US murdered a million Iraqis. �There were no WMDs in Iraq. �Look
>> it up.- Hide quoted text -
>
> Your facts are in error.
Cite please.
hal
your lies do not change the facts.
>
>-Mike K.
>
Herbert Cannon
> On 2009-06-30 08:24:18 -0400, hal said:
>
>> On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:42:26 -0500, "Herbert Cannon"
>> <hcan...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>>>> you have no conscience. You have no morals. You gladly go along
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> the murder of a million Iraqis for absolutely no reason. I don't how
>>>>>> you look yourself in the mirror.
>>>>>>
>>>>> You are absolutely full of shit.
>>>>>
>>>> The US murdered a million Iraqis. There were no WMDs in Iraq. Look
>>>> it up.
>>>
>>> Listen you fucking fool, there are no reliable studies on civilian
>>> casualties for the Iraqi war. Many of the so called studies have
>>> already been discredited.
>>
>> no they have not. Only denied. There is a difference.
>
> WHACK! WHACK! WHACK! The hits keep on coming!
>
Herbert Cannon
<hal> wrote in message news:obel45dfpeadae3ae...@4ax.com...
Herbert Cannon
> On 2009-06-29 18:51:22 -0400, "Herbert Cannon" <hcan...@cox.net> said:
>
>>
>> <hal> wrote in message news:cm8i45dq15pqko0go...@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:31:32 -0400, Slim <sl...@pickins.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> your kind will shoot women without hesitation if it's good for
>>>>> profits. You do it all the time.
>>>>
>>>> 100,000 innocent men, women and children killed in Iraq and the count
>>>> gets higher every day.
>>>
>>> 100,000 ? Try a million. A very, very realistic number of the people
>>> murdered in Iraq is a million. Murdered in cold blood so people like
>>> Herb can have their SUVs
>>
>> And you peddle a cycle and your usual inane bullshit.
>
> The deaths of so many is just dismissed as "inane bullshit"?
>
> You are one sick puppy.
You are one retarded puppy.
Mike K.
> On 2009-06-30 10:27:21 -0400, "Mike K." <mkornecki2...@yahoo.com> said:
>
> > On Jun 29, 10:05 pm, hal wrote:
>
> >>> You are absolutely full of shit.
>
> >> The US murdered a million Iraqis. There were no WMDs in Iraq. Look
> >> it up.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > Your facts are in error.
>
> Cite please.
Go reread the old threads, puppy. I personally demonstrated the utter
stupidity of the "million deaths" study.
-Mike K.
Mike K.
> On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 07:27:21 -0700 (PDT), "Mike K."
>
> >On Jun 29, 10:05 pm, hal wrote:
>
> >> >You are absolutely full of shit.
>
> >> The US murdered a million Iraqis. There were no WMDs in Iraq. Look
> >> it up.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >Your facts are in error. You have been shown that they are in error,
> >and why they are in error, on multiple occasions. Why do you continue
> >in your deceit?
>
> your lies do not change the facts.
Your "facts" are lies.
-Mike K.
hal
independent studies have shown without a doubt that the US killed at
least a million Iraqis. Your pathetic and desperate clinging to lies
of denial do not change that fact.
>
>-Mike K.
hal
clearly you are not familiar with The Lancet. Of course, that is an
organization filled with people with educations, intelligence, and the
ability to objectively evaluate the facts. Clearly nothing you know
anything about.
your repeated, mindless denial of reality does not change it. America
literally murdered over a million innocent people simply for the sake
of corporate oil profits. It is not surprising at all that your
limited emotional and intellectual capacity cannot grasp that fact.
But it is indeed true.
>-Mike K.
Herbert Cannon
<hal> wrote in message news:hatm45tqvmgqaa1q5...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 07:02:30 -0700 (PDT), "Mike K."
> <mkorne...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Jun 30, 8:22 pm, Slim <s...@pickins.com> wrote:
>>> On 2009-06-30 10:27:21 -0400, "Mike K." <mkornecki2...@yahoo.com> said:
>>>
>>> > On Jun 29, 10:05 pm, hal wrote:
>>>
>>> >>> You are absolutely full of shit.
>>>
>>> >> The US murdered a million Iraqis. There were no WMDs in Iraq. Look
>>> >> it up.- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> > Your facts are in error.
>>>
>>> Cite please.
>>
>>Go reread the old threads, puppy. I personally demonstrated the utter
>>stupidity of the "million deaths" study.
>>
>
> clearly you are not familiar with The Lancet.
Clearly we are. This study was discredited when someone figured out that
every coalition soldier would have to have personally shot something like a
over a 100+ Iraqis for it be valid. Obviously that was not you.
Mike K.
> >Your "facts" are lies.
>
> independent studies have shown without a doubt that the US killed at
> least a million Iraqis. Your pathetic and desperate clinging to lies
> of denial do not change that fact.
Hal, you are pathetic.
You posted your discredited study when it first came out. It was
ridiculed, disproved and shoved down your throat. You slunk away as
you always do.
And now you regurgitate it and hope noone notices. As you always do.
-Mike K.
Slim
A single bomb can kill over a thousand.
Mike K.
> A single bomb can kill over a thousand.
You haven't even read (or glanced at for that matter) your own study.
-Mike K.
hal
<mkorne...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Jul 1, 10:37�am, hal wrote:
>
>> >Your "facts" are lies.
>>
>> independent studies have shown without a doubt that the US killed at
>> least a million Iraqis. �Your pathetic and desperate clinging to lies
>> of denial do not change that fact.
>
>Hal, you are pathetic.
>
>You posted your discredited study when it first came out. It was
>ridiculed, disproved and shoved down your throat. You slunk away as
>you always do.
you didn't discredit it, you just denied it. There is a difference.
You denying reality doesn't make it so. You repeating lies over and
over do not make them true.
hal
nobody ever said every single Iraqi dead was shot by a coalition
soldier. That is a great example of your lies. You make absurd leaps
of assumption like that and conclude something can't be true. When
the only problem is with your absurd assumption.
David O'Daniel
in Slim's mind, yesterday just for 1 state per year, maybe for even just
1 bad bit of road, there was a memorial plak for the over 800 killed
each year (over the number of Iraq war dead (Ours, not theirs), in the
last couple of years under Bush. 70% of whom due to lack of wearing seat
belts. They don't count though, only fictitious exaggerations of others
killed by the must-demonize--Americans (said in voice like Must-see-TV).
Get a real cause without the agenda of purely to bash America motivated.
Bash tobacco companies, beer companies, police who fail to enforce laws
like wearing seat belts or drinking while driving & just giving warnings
for 55th repeat offenses (just a tad exaggerated to mirror Slim's Iraqi
non-innocents dead not killed by US but who are killed by those I'm sure
Slim considers "freedom fighters").
Bo
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and
degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing is
worth a war, is worse." --- John Stuart Mill
Slim
Typical NeoCon, continue to spew propaganda long enough and the masses
will finally believe it.
Like the 9/11-Saddam "connection".
Slim
> Still for the billions of billions of innocent Iraqis killed every day
> in Slim's mind, yesterday just for 1 state per year, maybe for even just
> 1 bad bit of road, there was a memorial plak for the over 800 killed
> each year (over the number of Iraq war dead (Ours, not theirs), in the
> last couple of years under Bush. 70% of whom due to lack of wearing seat
> belts. They don't count though, only fictitious exaggerations of others
> killed by the must-demonize--Americans (said in voice like Must-see-TV).
There is a HUGE difference between an innocent family being blown to
bts in thier homes, and some self-empowered inbred jackass who refuses
to wear a seat belt.
How much further can you stretch the truth?
>
> Get a real cause without the agenda of purely to bash America motivated.
> Bash tobacco companies, beer companies, police who fail to enforce laws
> like wearing seat belts or drinking while driving & just giving warnings
> for 55th repeat offenses (just a tad exaggerated to mirror Slim's Iraqi
> non-innocents dead not killed by US but who are killed by those I'm sure
> Slim considers "freedom fighters").
Those were people fighting an invading force.
David O'Daniel
"There is a HUGE difference between an innocent family being blown to
bts in thier homes, and some self-empowered inbred jackass who refuses
to wear a seat belt.
How much further can you stretch the truth?
to bash America motivated. Bash tobacco companies, beer companies,
police who fail to enforce laws like wearing seat belts or drinking
while driving & just giving warnings for 55th repeat offenses (just a
tad exaggerated to mirror Slim's Iraqi non-innocents dead not killed by
US but who are killed by those I'm sure Slim considers "freedom
fighters")."
force."
<Bo>: Still saying "innocent" and equating it as American's fault when
insergants & home grown Iraquis were doing most of the killing of the
non-cooperative collaboators who were shot after WWII for collaborating,
not cooperating. In any case, that's another tangent debate. From the
main line of reasoning thuhg, "illegals" Mexican, Equadoran, Somali etc
INVADING the USA must be respoonsible for ALL the deaths in the USA
whether they personally kill the American citicens of not, right?, Yep,
the stress caused by those illegals, the whatever your line of reasoning
to blame America first for all killed in Iraq put to illegals
responsible for American on American gang violence, muggings, etc, it is
all the illegals's fault, darn invaders!!!! AND I would expect IF you
ran the actual numbers, more Americans are directly killed by illegals
in America each year than Iraqis killed by Americans in Iraq!!!!!!!
Can't just count the shootings, muggings, other violent crims, got to
count the drunk driving deaths by illegals who should not have been here
in the first place, the fires started, even the medical deaths of actual
US citizens due to just not enough medical care or emergency room beds
to get to them in time because it is being taken up by illegals. WHO yes
do NOT deserve it. It does not matter the tearjering story or just off
the streets with a splinter keeping a waiting room tied up, they are
"illegals" and come here rather than going to some country already with
full Universal National heath care. But again, a tangent....
As for the fighting invaders in Iraq, heck I said that in jest, surely
didn't expect you/slim, to actualy defend the actual murderers of all
those beloved innocent iraquis.. But you DID!! Wow. BTW, insergants are
INVADERS, they are not defending their homeland from Invaders, they are
not iraqis, they are Iranians, Republican guard or trained/paid by them,
Syrians, Jordanians, etc. Most of the bombings were not by the locals.
That is why the locals finally had started to turn on the insergants for
killing too many of their own people & realizing it was NOT the
Americans doing the killing, lie they had been propagandized to think.
Sorry but late & not going to spell-check this. If you wish, copy &
spell check it, then repost. Have fun!
Slim
> BTW, insergants are INVADERS,
And the invaders were American.
David O'Daniel
"And the invaders were American."
Shifting of reality, blame-America-First hysteria is still alive & well
I see. If N. Korea nukes Alaska, I'm sure such people will believe it to
be America's fault.
Probably just another nick of Wannabe but they were the ones really
anti-israel IIRC. Just noting that by the invader argue all the
Fastinians (yes my pet peve) were invaders while the Jews were gone.
Just like a burglar who moves in while you're on vacation.
Rationality test, is there "ANYTHING" good about America, any good that
America & Americans have done, most esp Bush, in your view of reality &
history?
Awaits a response to disprove the idea of being under a totally
irrational demonizing of America hysteria, regardless of any facts or
evidence to the contrary...
Also awaits that US getting of Iraqi oil everyone claims we stole
already, the enslavement of Iraqis & others by the Evil Americans, all
such irrational views of America, fill in the blank...
If America fails tomorrow, a heck of a lot of the rest of the world will
starve, find their society collapsing without generous US aid & waves of
wars without the US "threat" to keep the peace. They bite the hand that
feeds them & keeps them alive & believe all the twisted propaganda,
anything bad must be true & anything good said about America must be a
lie.
Anyways, Happy Independence Day! You now, when Spain, France & England
had invaded but before America the nation existed... for some I suppose
that then makes tomorrow a sad day, the beginning of all the world's
problems. To others, yes shamefully proud of our country & dare to be
happy & glad to be an American! With Christian foundations &
conservative traditional family values, blessed to be in this great
land!
Ok, end of rant. Again, Happy 4th of July all!!!
Slim
> <Slim wrote>:
> "And the invaders were American."
>
> Shifting of reality, blame-America-First hysteria is still alive & well
> I see. If N. Korea nukes Alaska, I'm sure such people will believe it to
> be America's fault.
> Probably just another nick of Wannabe but they were the ones really
> anti-israel IIRC. Just noting that by the invader argue all the
> Fastinians (yes my pet peve) were invaders while the Jews were gone.
> Just like a burglar who moves in while you're on vacation.
> Rationality test, is there "ANYTHING" good about America, any good that
> America & Americans have done, most esp Bush, in your view of reality &
> history? Awaits a response to disprove the idea of being under a totally
> irrational demonizing of America hysteria, regardless of any facts or
> evidence to the contrary...
Bush is an asshole who made the world MORE dangerous than when he took office.
>
> Also awaits that US getting of Iraqi oil everyone claims we stole
> already, the enslavement of Iraqis & others by the Evil Americans, all
> such irrational views of America, fill in the blank...
No one "enslavement" but remember the NeoCons wanted a convicted
embezzler to run Iraq...CHALABI.
>
> If America fails tomorrow, a heck of a lot of the rest of the world will
> starve, find their society collapsing without generous US aid & waves of
> wars without the US "threat" to keep the peace. They bite the hand that
> feeds them & keeps them alive & believe all the twisted propaganda,
> anything bad must be true & anything good said about America must be a
> lie.
NO...NOT EVERYTHING IS BAD.
Lying to the world to start a war just to build a pipeline is very bad.
>
> Anyways, Happy Independence Day! You now, when Spain, France & England
> had invaded but before America the nation existed... for some I suppose
> that then makes tomorrow a sad day, the beginning of all the world's
> problems. To others, yes shamefully proud of our country & dare to be
> happy & glad to be an American! With Christian foundations &
> conservative traditional family values, blessed to be in this great
> land!
Now drink your Bud, beat your wife and kick the dog.
Mike K.
> you didn't discredit it, you just denied it. There is a difference.
> You denying reality doesn't make it so. You repeating lies over and
> over do not make them true.
It was discredited by many, myself included. You have not even read
the report you are yapping about (as is typical).
There are other reports in which the numebr is far less.
You simply deny those.
-Mike K.