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T. Thoms

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Jul 1, 2002, 7:22:53 PM7/1/02
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Greetings:
Well, I have followed most of the advice offered in this group with
fairly good results.

After eliminating most of the "hard" style martial arts offered in my
area off of my list(they just didn't interest me much). I found a
place that is not too far away that teaches "White Crane" silat, but
the classes start while I am still at work. There was a studio that
said it taught phillipine martial arts in the telephone book, but the
person who answered the phone did't seem to know what I was talking
about. Fianlly, we checked out a couple of "kung fu" shops in the
area. Almost all of them seem to be of dubious lineage, but I finally
settled on one.

The internet site and their pamphlet offered classes in Tai Chi and
Shaolin Kung Fu. My wife and I chose the taijichuan class.

The Bad news:

The taijichuan class really isn't. They call it an internal martial
arts class. Their literature states that they will cover the
following in about two years:

Tai Chi Chi Kung Postures
Tai Chi Chuan Short Form
Tai Chi Chuan Long Form
Palm Changes of Pa Kua Chang
Classical Pa Kua Chang
Hsing I Chuan 5 Roads
Hsing I Chuan 5 Roads Linkage
Hsing I Chuan 12 Animals
Hsing I Chuan San Shou (2 Man Set)
Hua To Chen Chuan "Original Recipe of Hua To"
Hua To Chi Kung Dead Training
Hua To Chi Kung Live Training
Hua To Chi Kung Hsien Tien Chi Training
Yang Chi Meditation and Breathing
Ho Tien Chi Meditation and Breathing
I Chin Ching
Other Internal Weapons, and styles

The school is a "Shao-Lin Do" school; some of you have expressed doubt
in its grandmasters origins.

The Good news:
I am learning something of Taijichuan.
The school is close and has classes at times that I can attend.
My wife is willing to come and share the experience with me.
Even the simple exercises, which look easy, are not. I'm getting
exercise, and I am incredibly sore right now.
My instructor is quite kind, likable, seems knowledgable, and enjoys
what he is doing.

I feel that I may not be able to actually reach my goal at this
school, which is to be able to defend myself using the internal/soft
arts. However, I think it may be a good place to start until I find a
more specialized school.

I am working under the belief that the skills I learn will give me a
good foundation to other things, should I move on. Is this a bogus
assumption?

I would appreciate your thoughts.

T. Thoms

T. Thoms

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Jul 2, 2002, 2:39:46 AM7/2/02
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Oops! A correction! The website says that we will learn " from the
following areas" over a couple of years.> Tai Chi Chi Kung Postures >

Tai Chi Chuan Short Form > Tai Chi Chuan Long Form > Palm Changes of
Pa Kua Chang > Classical Pa Kua Chang > Hsing I Chuan 5 Roads > Hsing
I Chuan 5 Roads Linkage > Hsing I Chuan 12 Animals > Hsing I Chuan San
Shou (2 Man Set) > Hua To Chen Chuan "Original Recipe of Hua To" > Hua
To Chi Kung Dead Training > Hua To Chi Kung Live Training > Hua To Chi
Kung Hsien Tien Chi Training > Yang Chi Meditation and Breathing > Ho
Tien Chi Meditation and Breathing > I Chin Ching > Other Internal
Weapons, and styles Also, upon reviewing my post, want to state that I
am not unhappy about my choice, and did not want to put the school in
a negative light. I love the instruction and the class. It is just
that it is not exactly what I was looking for (what is?) and I wanted
some of your thoughts as to whether this is a good foundation to build
upon for further martial application of neija. I guess my biggest
concern is the adage "Jack of all trades, master of none".Thanks
again,T. Thoms

cesa

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Jul 2, 2002, 4:42:17 AM7/2/02
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T. Thoms <thet...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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Well, you've answered your own question. Sounds like they will teach you a
bunch of forms and not much else, "skin and hair" rather than anything in
depth.


hcannon18

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Jul 2, 2002, 4:44:53 AM7/2/02
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"T. Thoms" <thet...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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If you are having a good time stay with it. Supplement your training with
some outside anerobic and aerobic training to stay in shape; and supplement
your current martial arts training with books and videos on other the
martial arts and the one you are training in. Consider some cross training
at a later date; but forget about being a martial arts hopper for right now.
That is my 2 cents worth - now enjoy.


foo hawkes

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Jul 3, 2002, 7:23:17 PM7/3/02
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thet...@pacbell.net (T. Thoms) wrote in message news:<dee26614.02070...@posting.google.com>...

> Greetings:
> Well, I have followed most of the advice offered in this group with
> fairly good results.
>
> After eliminating most of the "hard" style martial arts offered in my
> area off of my list(they just didn't interest me much). I found a
> place that is not too far away that teaches "White Crane" silat, but
> the classes start while I am still at work. There was a studio that
> said it taught phillipine martial arts in the telephone book, but the
> person who answered the phone did't seem to know what I was talking
> about. Fianlly, we checked out a couple of "kung fu" shops in the
> area. Almost all of them seem to be of dubious lineage, but I finally
> settled on one.
>
> The internet site and their pamphlet offered classes in Tai Chi and
> Shaolin Kung Fu. My wife and I chose the taijichuan class.

>

> The school is a "Shao-Lin Do" school; some of you have expressed doubt
> in its grandmasters origins.

Well, let's just say the internal KF Arts are a hot item these days and have
become even more proliferant than the external KF arts. That's okay, I
first started in taiji before going on to hung gar and wing chun. There
is a happy medium between internal and external that everyone ought to
find, in my pov. To a beginner, this is difficult to comprehend. Believe
it or not, the external KF arts have soft principles and the internal arts
have hard principles. This is something that does not come overnight but
comes with time and understanding what you are doing, which in most cases,
isn't an easy task.

T. Thoms

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Jul 13, 2002, 8:01:22 PM7/13/02
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Thanks for all of the feedback, everyone.

T. Thoms

Das Moose

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Jul 14, 2002, 6:35:45 AM7/14/02
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>Believe
> it or not, the external KF arts have soft principles and the internal
arts
> have hard principles.

The good ones (i.e. wing chun) teach you when to use soft, and when to use
hard. Which is the philosophy of Tao.

eg. a pak sao with a punch is
\/ \/
soft hard

See - equal balance!

that's how simple it is.


Andy

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Jul 14, 2002, 9:47:32 PM7/14/02
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"Das Moose" <blackco...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> >Believe
> > it or not, the external KF arts have soft principles and the internal
> arts
> > have hard principles.
>
> The good ones (i.e. wing chun) teach you when to use soft, and when to use
> hard. Which is the philosophy of Tao.
>
> eg. a pak sao with a punch is
> \/ \/
> soft hard
>
=================

> See - equal balance!
>
> that's how simple it is.
>
==================
sounds like one of those tv ads selling hair removal products....


>


Das Moose

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Jul 15, 2002, 5:55:18 AM7/15/02
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Lol.

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