What's the name of that martial art in the Jean Claude Van Damme movie
where there's this African guy jumping around and climbing on top of
people and trees; probably immitating a tree monkey? That's the kind
I'm looking for.
I found a guy who sells tapes of himself and calls it African martial
arts, the only thing is it's derived from asian martial arts. Plus I
don't want to pay to see the moves because I'm not that curious. Thanks
again.\\Chris
I saw a book showing some African martial arts moves, but it was a book
on martial arts from around the world. The moves looked just like asian
ones. Maybe were referring to the same book? In one of the moves, a guy
covers his opponent's face with his jacket or something like that (I
think they were sitting).
In Africa they just hack each other to death with machettes*. Prior to that
spears were a big favorite.
Fraser
Except South Africa where they shoot you.
I don't know, but if I have to invent a name for it, I will try Monkey-Do.
Wannabe
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> Except South Africa where they shoot you.
Come on, we're just as happy to do things the old way, with spears
(assegai) or burning tires around your neck. We'll take the keys to
your car once you've stopped moving...
Actually, knopkerries of sorts, stick fighting, is big in Africa too,
you might look into that too, lots of rituals in that.
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Do a google search on Zulu Stick Fighting and I'm sure you'll find more
on it.
South Africa is very 1st world and 'westernised' and therefore the
Martial Arts movement has recently been greatly influenced in much the
same way as the US, Europe and Asia. The result is South Africa has a
number of it's own 'original MMA' styles that have developed - one such
style/system being Kyokan (http://fai.port5.com/). I attended a session
with these guys many years ago and was quite impressed.
I'm not sure it's fair to say it's an 'African' style though, as with
most MA it's all quite universally homogenous now.
Perhaps one system that is quite uniquely African, or perhaps more
specifically "South African" is "the Piper System"
(http://www.pipersystem.com/) which is taught by the same guys that
teach Urban Shield (http://urbanshield.za.net/). Urban Shield though
is perhaps not even a 'martial art' but instead a system of urban
survival...I've also done a session with these guys which I found very
good.
BG
"Chris Tsao" <rigid...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1147009103.7...@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>Years ago I trained with Tayari Casel who was teaching kung fu before going
>on to open an African Martial Arts school that taught Kupigana Ngumi. He was
>really known for his groundfighting techniques. You might want to search
>that term to see if you can find what you are looking for.
>
>BG
Interesting. I saw him fight in the Ocean City Pro/Am Tourney in the 70s
and he was able to use acrobatic moves and still contend with the top guys
like Wallace and Lewis (though he was in the lightweight div, iirc.) Very
talented guy.
-B
> stick fighting, is big in Africa too,
> you might look into that too, lots of rituals in that.
I did a long time ago. I read an article online where Dan Inosanto said
that their stickfighting techniques are as good as any style he's ever
known.
> The only "African Martial Art" (structured fighting 'system') that I
> know of is Zulu stick fighting. I think it's called Nguni stick
> fighting or something.
>
> Do a google search on Zulu Stick Fighting and I'm sure you'll find more
> on it.
I probably read them all. If not, I just missed one or a few.
I forgot to mention that they're just articles and don't show any
techniques.
> I forgot to mention that they're just articles and don't show any
> techniques.
I meant to respond to my post. That is, the one about sites with
African sticking fighting.
> Actually, knopkerries of sorts, stick fighting, is big in Africa too,
> you might look into that too, lots of rituals in that.
It's a big place with more than one tribe. There are a number of
different native African stickfighting styles. Some are more ritualized
than others and the sticks range from short knobbed throwers all the way
up to 'tall as a man' sticks.
Peace favor your sword (IH),
Kirk
What's wrong with stickfighting and wrestling as martial arts? If that
counts for Philipino and Brazillian martial arts, why not African?
Anyway, I'm assuming you've heard of Nuba wrestling.
http://www.survival-international.org/sights.php?gallery_id=44
Besides that there's Testa "headbutting".
http://malandros-touro.com/generic15.html
Also capoeira is believed to have originated from an Angolan
fight - dance. (Hence the term "Capoeira Angola").
There's also a traditional Nigerian "kickboxing" style.
http://ejmas.com/jalt/2005jalt/jcsart_Green_0905.html
> What's the name of that martial art in the Jean Claude Van Damme movie
> where there's this African guy jumping around and climbing on top of
> people and trees; probably immitating a tree monkey? That's the kind
> I'm looking for.
>From the "Bloodsport" movie? Most people view that as more fictional
than "Dragon : The Bruce Lee Story". I'm betting that this was simply
an African American trained in "Shaolin Monkey style" and they threw
in a coconut tree for effect.
> I found a guy who sells tapes of himself and calls it African martial
> arts, the only thing is it's derived from asian martial arts. Plus I
> don't want to pay to see the moves because I'm not that curious. Thanks
> again.\\Chris
Who's the guy? Do you have a weblink? I recall someone on the
cover of black belt magazine some years ago who was selling
"African martial art" tapes. Some of the moves in the article
looked interesting and unique, but I don't know if they're authenticly
"African" and/or any good. If I was looking to learn and "African"
martial art, I'd probably look at Capoeira Angola.
Regards,
John M. Drake
>
> Chris Tsao wrote:
>> For a year and a hald, I have been searching the work wide web trying
>> to find web sites that show African martial arts. I have not found any.
>> Just some photos of guys stickfighting and old photos of guys
>> wrestling.
Two forums on yahoo groups. Neo_Kupigana_Ngumi and
African_Diasporic_Warrior_Arts_Association.
Used to be another that I was lurking on. Very racist though.
I wonder if it's Kilindi Iyi...I bought both his "World of African Martial
Arts" tapes for like two bucks each on ebay, haven't got around to watching
them yet. He claims all his stuff comes from actual African sources but I
have no idea if it's true or not.
> I wonder if it's Kilindi Iyi...I bought both his "World of African Martial
> Arts" tapes for like two bucks each on ebay, haven't got around to watching
> them yet. He claims all his stuff comes from actual African sources but I
> have no idea if it's true or not.
Thanks. Yeah, that's the guy I was thinking about from the cover of
Blackbelt. Whenever you actually watch them, please post a review.
Regards,
John M. Drake
I just want to check it out online.
> Anyway, I'm assuming you've heard of Nuba wrestling.
>
> http://www.survival-international.org/sights.php?gallery_id=44
>
> Besides that there's Testa "headbutting".
I remember an article about that in a martial arts magazine I read in
1982. It's a sport, I think.
> http://malandros-touro.com/generic15.html
>
> Also capoeira is believed to have originated from an Angolan
> fight - dance. (Hence the term "Capoeira Angola").
>
> There's also a traditional Nigerian "kickboxing" style.
That's the kind of stuff I want to check out.
> http://ejmas.com/jalt/2005jalt/jcsart_Green_0905.html
>
> > What's the name of that martial art in the Jean Claude Van Damme movie
> > where there's this African guy jumping around and climbing on top of
> > people and trees; probably immitating a tree monkey? That's the kind
> > I'm looking for.
>
> >From the "Bloodsport" movie? Most people view that as more fictional
> than "Dragon : The Bruce Lee Story". I'm betting that this was simply
> an African American trained in "Shaolin Monkey style" and they threw
> in a coconut tree for effect.
>
> > I found a guy who sells tapes of himself and calls it African martial
> > arts, the only thing is it's derived from asian martial arts. Plus I
> > don't want to pay to see the moves because I'm not that curious. Thanks
> > again.\\Chris
>
> Who's the guy? Do you have a weblink?
I forgot his name. He's kinda chubby and dresses all in white with a
beanie (for lack of the proper word). He sells DVDs.