Re: Illegals, illegals everywhere -- BUT WHO PAYS?:
martin
> Rising of fat obese Mexicans. Young teen Mexican girl carrying around
> anchor babe
> in her belly..Many did not wed. Out of wedlocked children are very
> popular in Mexican
> culture. Just watch my eye on Mexican kids from school, more than
> half are fat and obese.
> I've never seen so many fat and obese children in Mexican body than
> any other ethnic body.
> Of course, what the prevalent most among these Mexicans are more than
> half are illegal alien
> or so called "Anchor babe". Their parent are illegal. They get free
> money from state.
> More anchor babe means more money they receive free from the state.
> You may wonder why
> homelessness all you see around my city are not Mexicans because they
> get free housing
> but White people. Yes White people are homeless here because the first
> priority of the
> HUD (House of Urban Development) recipient in the list is the Mexican
> anchor babe, not US born citizen. Get it!!!! No wonder these rising
> Mexican illegal and anchor babies have caused
> CAlifronia largest financial deficit ever....And the deficit will
> never get better...It only gets
> worse forever.....
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> (California has only 50 days left according to the news before they
> are
> totally broke. Companies providing goods and services under state
> contract can't pay their personnel or suppliers, or their TAXES with
> Arnold's I.O.U.s)
>
> CHEAP TOMATOES?
>
> This should make everyone think, be you Democrat, Republican or
> Independent
>
> From a California school teacher - - -
>
> 'As you listen to the news about the student protests over illegal
> immigration, there are some things that you should be aware of:
>
> I am in charge of the English-as-a-second-language department at a
> large southern California high school which is designated a Title 1
> school, meaning that its students average lower socioeconomic and
> income levels.
>
> Most of the schools you are hearing about, South Gate High, Bell
> Gardens , Huntington Park , etc., where these students are protesting,
> are also Title 1 schools.
>
> Title 1 schools are on the free breakfast and free lunch program. When
> I say free breakfast, I'm not talking a glass of milk and roll -- but
> a
> full breakfast and cereal bar with fruits and juices that would make a
> Marriott proud. The waste of this food is monumental, with trays and
> trays of it being dumped in the trash uneaten. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT
> WORK)
>
> I estimate that well over 50% of these students are obese or at least
> moderately overweight. About 75% or more DO have cell phones. The
> school also provides day care centers for the unwed teenage pregnant
> girls (some as young as 13) so they can attend class without the
> inconvenience of having to arrange for babysitters or having family
> watch their kids. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)
>
> I was ordered to spend $700,000 on my department or risk losing
>
> funding for the upcoming year even though there was little need for
> anything; my budget was already substantial. I ended up buying new
> computers for the computer learning center, half of which, one month
> later, have been carved with graffiti by the appreciative students who
> obviously feel humbled and grateful to have a free education in
> America
> .. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)
>
> I have had to intervene several times for young and substitute
> teachers
> whose classes consist of many illegal immigrant students here in the
> country less than 3 months who raised so much hell with the female
> teachers, calling them 'Putas' ( whores ) and throwing things, that
> the
> teachers were in tears.
>
> Free medical, free education, free food, day care etc., etc, etc. Is
> it
> any wonder they feel entitled to not only be in this country but to
> demand rights, privileges and entitlements?
>
> To those who want to point out how much these illegal immigrants
> contribute to our society because they LIKE their gardener and
> housekeeper and they like to pay less for tomatoes: spend some time in
> the real world of illegal immigration and see the TRUE costs.
>
> Higher insurance, medical facilities closing, higher medical costs,
> more crime, lower standards of education in our schools, overcrowding,
> new diseases etc., etc, etc. For me, I'll pay more for tomatoes.
>
> Americans We need to wake up. The guest worker program will be a
> disaster because we won't have the guts to enforce it. Does anyone in
> their right mind really think they will voluntarily leave and return?
>
> It does, however, have everything to do with culture: A third-world
> culture that does not value education, that accepts children getting
> pregnant and dropping out of school by 15 and that refuses to
> assimilate, and an American culture that has become so weak and
> worried
> about 'political correctness ' that we don't have the will to do
> anything about it.
>
> If this makes your blood boil, as it did mine, forward this to
> everyone
> you know.
>
> CHEAP LABOR? Isn't that what the whole immigration issue is about?
>
> Business doesn't want to pay a decent wage.
> Consumers don't want expensive produce.
> Government will tell you Americans don't want the jobs.
>
> But the bottom line is cheap labor. The phrase 'cheap labor' is a myth
> , a farce, and a lie. There is no such thing as 'cheap labor.'
>
> Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five children. He
> takes a job for
> $5.00 or 6.00/hour. At that wage, with six dependents, he pays no
> income tax, yet at the end of the year, if he files an Income Tax
> Return, he gets an 'earned income credit' of up to $3,200 free.
>
> He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent.
> He qualifies for food stamps.
> He qualifies for free (no deductible, no co-pay) health care.
> His children get free breakfasts and lunches at school.
> He requires bilingual teachers and books.
> He qualifies for relief from high energy bills.
> If they are or become, aged, blind or disabled , they qualify for SSI.
> Once qualified for SSI they can qualify for Medicare . All of this is
> at (our) taxpayer's expense.
>
> He doesn't worry about car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners
> insurance.
> Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins and printed
> material.
> He and his family receive the equivalent of $20.00 to $30.00/hour in
> benefits.
>
> Working Americans are lucky to have $5.00 or $6.00/hour left after
> paying their bills and his.
> The American taxpayers also pay for increased crime, graffiti and
> trash
> clean-up.
>
> Cheap labor? YEAH RIGHT! Wake up people!
>
> THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING TO THE PRESIDENTIAL
> CANDIDATES FOR EITHER PARTY. 'AND WHEN THEY LIE TO US AND DON'T DO AS
> THEY SAY, WE SHOULD REPLACE THEM AT ONCE!'
>
> THIS HAS GOT TO BE PASSED ALONG TO AS MANY AS POSSIBLE OR WE WILL ALL
> GO DOWN THE DRAIN BECAUSE A FEW DON'T CARE . .
>
> --
Deport every single illegal alien. These talented and magnificent
folks and their anchor babies
should be blessing for Meheco and points south, Also, deport all
illegal alien asians and europeans.
tt
http://www.americanworker.org/ American Worker
*us*
Shuurai
> Make a note of it.
True; the people themselves are not illegal. The fact that they are
here in this country without proper documentation is illegal.
jane
> Make a note of it.
Let me present a few scenarios:
1) Would you think it to be an illegal activity for a family to move
into, and take up residence, in your house without your permission?
2) Presume that you owned an apartment building. Would you think it
is an illegal activity for a family to move into one of the empty
units without your permission?
3) Presume you have a rather extensive and large back yard. Would
you consider it an illegal activity for a family to start building a
house on your back yard.
Jane.
Rabid Weasel Lawson
> Make a note of it.
You're RIGHT!
Normal, Healthy people consider folks that commit illegal actions to be
"Criminals." So, more accurately, these folks should be referred to as
*CRIMINAL* Aliens.
Thanks for clearing this up! :)
*us*
>True; the people themselves are not illegal. The fact that they are
>here in this country without proper documentation is illegal.
Just like the pilgrims.
*us*
wrote:
>Normal, Healthy people consider folks that commit illegal actions to be
>"Criminals."
So you support bringing the war criminals Bush and Cheney to trial, right?
After all, you don't disagree with the findings of the Nuremberg Tribunals,
do you?
In perspective, those traitors cost the USA too much.
Meanwhile, you're eating food harvested by those you despise, and you
would starve without their efforts.
*us*
>...Would you think it to be an illegal activity for a family to move
>into, and take up residence, in your house without your permission?
Why do you imagine you'd own land your ancestors stole?
Bert Hyman
Because there's now a legal system in place which recognizes deeds and
titles for real property.
Do you recognize the legal system that's in place in the United States?
Do you believe that the United States government should be able to
control immigration into this country?
--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN be...@iphouse.com
ObamaNation is an Abomination
What we need to do is go to the Pilgrim graveyard, dig 'em, up, and
kill 'em. But fist we should burn 'em at the stake. Aren't they the
ones who killed witches as well as Indians?
lorad
> Normal Healthy People Don't Consider Other People 'Illegal'
> Make a note of it.
Sure they do.. that's exactly how criminals are identified and
apprehended by police.
This is what they do:
1) identify a criminal on the street
2) Question the criminal to ascertain the identity of the criminal
3) Arrest the criminal
4) Adjudicate the criminal's offences
5) If necessary send the criminal back to mexico.
Any questions?
Rabid Weasel Lawson
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:15:55 -0500, Rabid Weasel Lawson <lawson@NO13074SPAM+dayton.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Normal, Healthy people consider folks that commit illegal actions to be
>>"Criminals."
>
> So you support bringing the war criminals Bush and Cheney to trial, right?
Bush and Cheney have immigrated to the U.S. illegally? Wow, I had no
idea! Thanks for bringing this to our attention! Will you be reporting
them to INS?
> After all, you don't disagree with the findings of the Nuremberg Tribunals,
> do you?
"The winners write the history books."
> In perspective, those traitors cost the USA too much.
>
> Meanwhile, you're eating food harvested by those you despise, and you
> would starve without their efforts.
I assume you are implying that "Criminal Aliens" are harvesting the food
and I would somehow starve if non-criminals harvested instead.
First, that's an interesting theory. Due to the fact that I've eaten food
grown locally and harvested by non-Criminal immigrants, I am fairly
certain that I won't starve from the process. You know, speaking based
upon experimental evidence.
Second, actually, I don't "despise" them. Honestly, there are a number of
criminals that I rather like. Similarly there are a number of
non-Criminals that I *do* "despise." Compliance with the law is not the
only criteria that I, personally, judge a person on. However, compliance
or non-compliance with the law *DOES*, by definition, define whether or
not a person is a Criminal. Again, glad that got cleared up.
Anyway, I'm happy that you are on board with correcting the improper
language of "Illegal Aliens" to the proper English term "Criminal Aliens."
English Teachers everywhere appreciate your support!
(IH)
Rabid Weasel Lawson
I can't believe you're digging out that old bit. Perhaps you didn't hear,
but currently archaeological data shows that those poor folks who had
their land supposedly "stolen" by europeans, actually stole the land from
the folks there before them, who stole the land from the folks there
before THEM.
I don't see you whining that the "native americans" should vacate thier
claims.
Hypocrite.
(IH)
Rabid Weasel Lawson
> Because there's now a legal system in place which recognizes deeds and
> titles for real property. Because there's now a legal system in place which recognizes deeds and
titles for real property.
Do you recognize the legal system that's in place in the United States?
Do you believe that the United States government should be able to
control immigration into this country?
There was a similar system then too.
> Do you recognize the legal system that's in place in the United States?
England had one at that time. The U.S. *REVOLTED* against the Lawful
rulers: England. But, you see, we won the war so we get to decide what
was right and wrong. Same thing happened with the people where were
squatting on this land before the europeans got here. I hate to say
"might makes right" but in this case, that's how it worked, even if we
don't like it.
> Do you believe that the United States government should be able to
> control immigration into this country?
Sure. As long as we have the ability and the will to do so. Guess which
one seems to not be there?
Peace favor your sword (IH),
Kirk
Red Cloud
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:15:55 -0500, Rabid Weasel Lawson <law...@NO13074SPAM+dayton.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Normal, Healthy people consider folks that commit illegal actions to be
> >"Criminals."
>
> Meanwhile, you're eating food harvested by those you despise, and you
> would starve without their efforts.
Wow!!!! Every citizen of the world would be starve to death if there
is no Mexican
farm worker picking the vegetable. Who is picking the vegetable in
Japan, Sweden, Germany, Holland? How many Mexican farm worker in
Japan, Sweden?
ZERO. Not only no wetback in Japanese farm, A plenty of clean
vegetable are harvest in japanese harm. No wonder japanese are
living longer than any citizen of the world.
Deport wetback out of the US farm. US family must start farming their
own yard and support their family. When the trouble and bad economic
hit, their farm will protect
from starvation. No need to rely on Mexican farmers. Start own garden
and farming.
That's the first and foremost rule to protect your family and the best
survival method.
NO NEED FOR WETBACK FARMER!
Red Cloud
I hate to agree but "might makes right is a nature of human
behavior. Peace can only be possible if all citizen all nations
must participate in same thing. I rather
say might nakes right sound like Dariwin's evolution theory. I even
suggest that
Global Warming theory is a socio-evolution theory. All citizen of of
all nation participate in human evolution. I came to believe that is
the responsibility of mankind. If a nation does not participate, the
nation must be conquered to make
the citizen evolved. There is no other way. Mexican/Hispanic will not
participate in bring down their fertility rate. Human evolution
brought down the population growth by control except Third World
nation like Mexico. Rising Mexican population can only destabilize
and drop back to 100 or 200 yr which suggests evolution is not
natural. It's mankind conscious action. So Mexicans taking over
America will be throwback 100 or 200 yr or even farther.Specifically,
it will be like Mexico today. So as there is a Mexicans population,
so goes is a dirt corrupt rotten state. Wetback nation is the one
of the most corrupted nation in the world.... More corrupt and more
racist and more segregated than USA.
Red Cloud
> > wrote:
>
> >>Normal, Healthy people consider folks that commit illegal actions to be
> >>"Criminals."
>
> > So you support bringing the war criminals Bush and Cheney to trial, right?
>
> Bush and Cheney have immigrated to the U.S. illegally? Wow, I had no
> idea! Thanks for bringing this to our attention! Will you be reporting
> them to INS?
>
> > After all, you don't disagree with the findings of the Nuremberg Tribunals,
> > do you?
>
> "The winners write the history books."
>
> > In perspective, those traitors cost the USA too much.
>
> > Meanwhile, you're eating food harvested by those you despise, and you
> > would starve without their efforts.
>
> I assume you are implying that "Criminal Aliens" are harvesting the food
> and I would somehow starve if non-criminals harvested instead.
>
You know that pro-Mexican crowd and anti-Americans are too pride that
criminal low wage illegal are pick the vegetable that is so valuable
that
Americans will be starve death if not pick by Mexican illegals.
It's same bullshit I've heard how Mexican illegals are working so
hard to
support their family. So Americans are all not working and not
supporting
their family. Did you know that Cesar Chavez fought against illegal
alien
working in farm and cutting the wage? Pro-illegal alien crowd did't
touch on
that on. They were too busy parading Chavez's picture in street and
how
humane he was trying to protect illegal alien.. Of course, they are
all liars.
> First, that's an interesting theory. Due to the fact that I've eaten food
> grown locally and harvested by non-Criminal immigrants, I am fairly
> certain that I won't starve from the process. You know, speaking based
> upon experimental evidence.
>
> Second, actually, I don't "despise" them. Honestly, there are a number of
> criminals that I rather like. Similarly there are a number of
> non-Criminals that I *do* "despise." Compliance with the law is not the
> only criteria that I, personally, judge a person on. However, compliance
> or non-compliance with the law *DOES*, by definition, define whether or
> not a person is a Criminal. Again, glad that got cleared up.
>
> Anyway, I'm happy that you are on board with correcting the improper
> language of "Illegal Aliens" to the proper English term "Criminal Aliens."
> English Teachers everywhere appreciate your support!
>
> (IH)
Whether Illegal alien or Criminal Aliens, either does not illegalize
and not even
arrest and deport it. This is all about politic. Mexican activists
do know how
this political system works. They have huge influence in a local
politic in order to make illegal legal by demonizing it's opponent.
This is going on in any city
or county going through conflict with illegal alien problem. Their
political power supported by La Raza will make it their way no matter
how costly it is.
Bert Hyman
Red Cloud <mmdi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Peace can only be possible if all citizen all nations
> must participate in same thing.
Is this a call for a global police state?
*us*
wrote:
>... .I had no
>idea! ...
That's obvious.
You support criminals who truly harm you, while
whimpering hatefully about those who feed you.
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:15:55 -0500, Rabid Weasel Lawson <lawson@NO13074SPAM+dayton.net>
wrote:
>Normal, Healthy people consider folks that commit illegal actions to be
>"Criminals."
So you support bringing the war criminals Bush and Cheney to trial, right?
After all, you don't disagree with the findings of the Nuremberg Tribunals,
do you?
In perspective, those traitors cost the USA too much.
*us*
>... criminals ...
You'd be better off if you could figure out who's
really doing you harm vs who's feeding you.
*us*
wrote:
>...whining ...
You want to complain about, and hate, the people
who are putting food in your mouth.
*us*
>Because there's now a legal system in place ...
Your idols Bush and Cheney don't agree with you.
*us*
>... the
>ones who killed ...
You sure are fond of mass murders, bushfilth.
*us*
>...Who is picking the vegetable ...
You don't know? No surprise there.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/opinion/2008266752_opin15delgado.html
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:15:55 -0500, Rabid Weasel Lawson <lawson@NO13074SPAM+dayton.net>
wrote:
>Normal, Healthy people consider folks that commit illegal actions to be
>"Criminals."
So you support bringing the war criminals Bush and Cheney to trial, right?
After all, you don't disagree with the findings of the Nuremberg Tribunals,
do you?
In perspective, those traitors cost the USA too much.
Meanwhile, you're eating food harvested by those you despise, and you
*us*
>... Third World
>nation like ...
You like spending trillions on war crimes, but won't spend a dime on health.
ObamaNation is an Abomination
Chaiman Mao, Stalin, Uncle Ho, Senor Fidel, Pol Pot .... Your heroes.
*us*
>... the
>ones who killed ...
You sure are fond of mass murders, bushfilth.
You are mindlessly afraid of those who can't harm you,
as you kneel and worship those who do harm you.
*us*
>...anti-Americans are too pride that
It prevents you from becoming educated, doesn't it.
>It's same bullshit I've heard ...
You shouldn't just keep believing those voices in your head.
>... did't
>touch on
>that on. ...
>all liars.
Tell us the one about the mushroom cloud in 45 minutes, again.
>... illegalize
Oppressing and then incarcerating helpless people is the modern
equivalent of slavery. It is inhumanly cruel, but quite profitable.
To impoverish, sicken, and then imprison defenseless people for
myth-based 'judgement' makes a few profiteers a lot of money.
>... demonizing it's [sic] opponent.
Don't worry: you do it so incoherently that you provide ample
public proof that you hold your views due to your mental defect.
>... no matter
>how costly it is.
What's your tab for those illegal invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq
looking like these days?
Shuurai
> >True; the people themselves are not illegal. The fact that they are
> >here in this country without proper documentation is illegal.
>
> Just like the pilgrims.
Not at all like the pilgrims. The natives of North America never had
immigration laws to break.
Shuurai
> >...whining ...
>
> You want to complain about, and hate, the people
> who are putting food in your mouth.
I can't speak for Kirk, but the person putting food on my table is
me. I work for a living.
It's a common claim among liberals, and among corporations that like
to exploit the illegals, that these people are doing jobs that
Americans "won't do" and that if they weren't here it would have some
sort of major impact on food prices and whatnot. Both claims are
ridiculous.
The fact of the matter is there are Americans who would take those
jobs; and there are in fact some who DO take those jobs. Second, the
actual savings that are seen via hiring illegals tend to bolster
profits rather than affect food prices.
Sending these people home would reduce unemployment for legal
citizens, and would greatly reduce the strains on our medical system,
our legal system, and on social services in general. But instead, our
government (and it's not just Obama, the last three administrations
were just as bad) follows policies that encourage more to come.
Shuurai
> >... criminals ...
>
> You'd be better off if you could figure out who's
> really doing you harm vs who's feeding you.
The strain placed on the system by illegal workers greatly outweighs
any financial savings made by hiring them; especially if you're
looking at those savings actually making their way to the consumer.
> >Normal, Healthy people consider folks that commit illegal actions to be
> >"Criminals."
>
> So you support bringing the war criminals Bush and Cheney to trial, right?
What crime did they commit, specifically? The war was fully
authorized by Congress, who had access to all of the same intelligence
that Bush and Cheney did.
> After all, you don't disagree with the findings of the Nuremberg Tribunals,
> do you?
There were no "finding" - it was the opinion of one chief prosecutor
who has also argued that Hiroshima was a war crime as well.
> In perspective, those traitors cost the USA too much.
Almost as much as Obama's first year of spending.
> Meanwhile, you're eating food harvested by those you despise, and you
> would starve without their efforts.
First off, wanting people to stop breaking the law does not mean we
"despise" them - and they ARE breaking the law - it just means that we
want them to stop breaking the law.
Second, the notion that people would "starve" without their efforts is
utter bullshit. Food prices in this country are unaffected by illegal
workers; for fucks sake we still shelve crops every year to keep
prices UP in this country. The savings that corporations make goes
towards their own bottom line; it rarely if ever finds it's way to the
consumer.
ObamaNation is an Abomination
Bush should be your hero, Paco.
He also supported open borders and amnesty for illegals.
*us*
>...The natives of North America ...
You don't speak for them. You don't even represent
your own best interests.
Fascists always want to demand someone's "papers".
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:55:26 -0700 (PDT), Shuurai <shuu...@gmail.com> wrote:
*us*
http://usliberals.about.com/od/immigration/a/IllegalImmi.htm
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:55:42 -0700 (PDT), Shuurai <shuu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>...the person putting food on my table is
You should know:
"large parts of the economy rely on illegal workers"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/03/uselections2008.usa
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:32:45 -0500, Rabid Weasel Lawson <lawson@NO21931SPAM+dayton.net>
wrote:
>...whining ...
*us*
>... placed on the system by illegal workers ...
They contribute more than you ever could.
"Growers admit that in California between 80 and 90 per cent of agricultural work crews,
who plant, tend and harvest crops, are illegal immigrants"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/03/uselections2008.usa
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:35:17 -0700 (PDT), lorad <lora...@cs.com> wrote:
>... criminals ...
You'd be better off if you could figure out who's
really doing you harm vs who's feeding you.
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:15:55 -0500, Rabid Weasel Lawson <lawson@NO13074SPAM+dayton.net>
wrote:
>Normal, Healthy people consider folks that commit illegal actions to be
>"Criminals."
So you support bringing the war criminals Bush and Cheney to trial, right?
After all, you don't disagree with the findings of the Nuremberg Tribunals,
do you?
In perspective, those traitors cost the USA too much.
Meanwhile, you're eating food harvested by those you despise, and you
Shuurai
> >... placed on the system by illegal workers ...
>
> They contribute more than you ever could.
Spoken like a true twelve year old. You are twelve years old,
right?
> "Growers admit that in California between 80 and 90 per cent of agricultural work crews,
> who plant, tend and harvest crops, are illegal immigrants"
Nobody is disputing the fact the number of workers who are illegal.
YOUR claim was that people would "starve" without these illegal
workers, and you have no basis whatsoever for that claim.
Shuurai
> >...The natives of North America ...
>
> You don't speak for them.
History speaks for them. And history shows that they had no
immigration laws for outsiders to break. You don't get to pass laws
centuries after the fact and then declare them broken.
> You don't even represent your own best interests.
Oh wow, this should be fun... what, according to the whisperings of
the spiders in your skull, are my best interests?
> Fascists always want to demand someone's "papers".
Liberals always want to deflect and call names when it's clear that
their argument has no merit.
*us*
>I'm all for paying a living wage to American citizens to harvest the
>food.
Prove it, lying bushfilth ssucker.
You don't even want Americans to have healthcare.
You hate the vast majority of Americans, bushkultie.
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:00:54 GMT, ss...@anywhere.net (an Abomination) wrote:
>...YOU CAN VOTE!
You can't: the electronics will 'vote' for you.
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:03:02 GMT, ho...@home.net (Roselles's Nemesis) wrote:
>... should have nuked ...
So you confess that you're a terrorist.
*us*
>Bush should be ...
He should be brought to justice for his war crimes, ssucker.
*us*
>Actually, Stalin ...
He and Hitler hated liberals, and you imitate them, bushssucker.
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:00:49 GMT, ss...@anywhere.net (an
Abomination) wrote:
>...CROSS THE AFGHAN BORDER ILLEGALLY, YOU GET SHOT.
Are you saying that the perpetrators of the illegal invasion of Afghanistan
should face capital punishment?
I still insist that Bush and Cheney could be forced to face justice, but in the
form of skillfully-induced epiphany.
>... A JOB, A DRIVERS
>LICENSE, SOCIAL SECURITY CARD, WELFARE, FOOD STAMPS, CREDIT CARDS,
>SUBSIDIZED RENT OR A LOAN TO BUY A HOUSE, FREE EDUCATION, FREE HEALTH
>CARE, A LOBBYIST IN WASHINGTON AND IN MANY INSTANCES YOU CAN VOTE!
Jealous?
>Thank you, liberals !
Liberals created the USA, but the follower of
Stalin and Hitler hates liberals, and in fact
hates most Americans.
*us*
>On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:49:46 -0400, * US * wrote:
>>On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:02:58 GMT, ho...@home.net (Roselles's Nemesis) wrote:
>>>... illegal aliens...
>>
>>You've misspelled "humans".
>>
>>Why are you so filled with hate for people?
>
>You think that all 7 billion people on the Earth should be allowed to
>enter the US?
How long do you imagine they'd all stay?
If you weren't an unintelligent, fearful, weak specimen,
you'd be able to learn how to share. In fact, if you
weren't damaged/defective, you'd have done so
by the age of 7 or 8.
Notice that you have no ability to dispute the fact that
the typical immigrant contributes more to society than
you ever could, parasite.
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>...want to deflect and call names ...
Of course you do.
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:46:58 -0700 (PDT), Shuurai <shuu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>...The natives of North America ...
You don't speak for them. You don't even represent
your own best interests.
Fascists always want to demand someone's "papers".
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:55:26 -0700 (PDT), Shuurai <shuu...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>No one owns the land.
Then you have no basis for your belief in a 'border'.
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:46:12 -0700 (PDT), jane <jane....@gmail.com> wrote:
>...Would you think it to be an illegal activity for a family to move
>into, and take up residence, in your house without your permission?
Why do you imagine you'd own land your ancestors stole?
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>...You are twelve years old,
>right?
You a pedophile?
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:16:17 -0700 (PDT), Shuurai <shuu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>... placed on the system by illegal workers ...
They contribute more than you ever could.
"Growers admit that in California between 80 and 90 per cent of agricultural work crews,
who plant, tend and harvest crops, are illegal immigrants"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/03/uselections2008.usa
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>Nobody is disputing the fact the number ...
You're incoherent.
They contribute $7 billion per year to Social Security ...
http://usliberals.about.com/od/immigration/a/IllegalImmi.htm
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:55:42 -0700 (PDT), Shuurai <shuu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>...the person putting food on my table is
You should know:
"large parts of the economy rely on illegal workers"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/03/uselections2008.usa
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:32:45 -0500, Rabid Weasel Lawson <lawson@NO21931SPAM+dayton.net>
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>...would "starve" without these illegal
>workers...
You sure would, you ungrateful waste of oxygen bushfilth.
"Growers admit that in California between 80 and 90 per cent of agricultural
work crews, who plant, tend and harvest crops, are illegal immigrants"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/03/uselections2008.usa
Rabid Weasel Lawson
> On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:32:45 -0500, Rabid Weasel Lawson <lawson@NO21931SPAM+dayton.net>
> wrote:
>
>>...whining ...
>
Yes, WHINING, you hypocrite.
You know, pissing and moaning like a little girl.
> You want to complain about, and hate, the people
> who are putting food in your mouth.
I work for a living, not leach off of other folks like a Welfare Queen.
(IH)
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wrote:
>...WHINING...
>...pissing and moaning like a little girl...
>I ...
No one had asked for you.
They contribute $7 billion per year to Social Security ...
http://usliberals.about.com/od/immigration/a/IllegalImmi.htm
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:55:42 -0700 (PDT), Shuurai <shuu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>...the person putting food on my table is
You should know:
"large parts of the economy rely on illegal workers"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/03/uselections2008.usa
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:32:45 -0500, Rabid Weasel Lawson <lawson@NO21931SPAM+dayton.net>
wrote:
>...whining ...
You want to complain about, and hate, the people
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Those people have ancestors who were in the Americas
long before those of anyone who tries to reject them.
The bigot can't process such facts.
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>No one owns the land.
Then you have no basis for your belief in a 'border'.
Baseless beliefs are the specialty of the mindless.
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>...not in America...not an American.
If you were on the same side as America, you'd realize
that the real enemies of the USA are Bush and Cheney,
not those who harvest foods Americans eat.
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>We could simply call them what they are
>and that would be criminals...
Bush and Cheney are, anyway.
Those who feed you aren't.
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to bite the hand that feeds him.
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Those people have ancestors who were in the Americas
long before those of anyone who tries to reject them.
The bigot can't process such facts.
The bigot is inferior.
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>Bush should be ...
Your idols Bush and Cheney have betrayed you.
You're merely too stupid to realize it.
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You only want harm to Americans, while immigrants
contribute to Americans' quality of life.
If only we could trade you for more Mexicans.
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>...Gang Initiation
See "Skull and Bones".
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>taxpayer sticker shock
How much are your illegal invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq costing?
Don't you know?
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>... linked to gang-rape ...
That's your masters at KBR.
http://www.historyguide.org/europe/lecture10.html
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>...This is an example of a
>horrific crime ...
See "Fallujah".
trav...@aol.com
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:55:26 -0700 (PDT), Shuurai <shuura...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >True; the people themselves are not illegal. The fact that they are
> >here in this country without proper documentation is illegal.
>
> Just like the pilgrims.
thought you said the pilgrims were invaders....so we should treat the
messicans as invaders too?
Trav
trav...@aol.com
> > >...whining ...
>
> > You want to complain about, and hate, the people
> > who are putting food in your mouth.
>
> me. I work for a living.
>
> It's a common claim among liberals, and among corporations that like
> to exploit the illegals, that these people are doing jobs that
> Americans "won't do" and that if they weren't here it would have some
> sort of major impact on food prices and whatnot. Both claims are
> ridiculous.
>
> The fact of the matter is there are Americans who would take those
> jobs; and there are in fact some who DO take those jobs. Second, the
> actual savings that are seen via hiring illegals tend to bolster
> profits rather than affect food prices.
>
> Sending these people home would reduce unemployment for legal
> citizens, and would greatly reduce the strains on our medical system,
> our legal system, and on social services in general. But instead, our
> government (and it's not just Obama,
Illegals also qualify for MASSIVE subsidies, schooling, daycare, tax
CREDITS, health care, SSI, all of it.
If they earn sufficiently low wages, the government GIVES THEM MONEY
BACK at tax time.
The notion that they save us a fucking dime is complete bullshit.
It's all part of the NAACP anti-WASP myth that everything colored is
superior to everything white.
Trav
Rabid Weasel Lawson
> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:36:04 -0500, Rabid Weasel Lawson <lawson@NO21931SPAM+dayton.net>
> wrote:
>
>>...WHINING...
>>...pissing and moaning like a little girl...
>>I ...
>
> No one had asked for you.
Let me be the first to introduce you to the concept of a Public Forum and
Free Speech.
(IH)
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Read what I wrote. The Mexicans are no less entitled to
immigrate here than the pilgrims could have been.
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not attempt to discard them.
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>... very poorly educated...
You sure are.
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We'd probably have to throw something in.
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The bigot is inferior.
He needs Mexicans or he'd starve to death.
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>...carrying horrific third
>world diseases...
Something has you unable to think.
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>Normal healthy people ...
How would you know?
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wrote:
>Let me ...
Nobody's stopping you from making a fool of yourself in public, moron.
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:56:08 GMT, ss...@anywhere.net (an Abomination) wrote:
>...Gang Initiation
See "Skull and Bones".
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:36:04 -0500, Rabid Weasel Lawson <lawson@NO21931SPAM+dayton.net>
wrote:
>...WHINING...
>...pissing and moaning like a little girl...
>I ...
No one had asked for you.
They contribute $7 billion per year to Social Security ...
http://usliberals.about.com/od/immigration/a/IllegalImmi.htm
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:55:42 -0700 (PDT), Shuurai <shuu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>...the person putting food on my table is
You should know:
"large parts of the economy rely on illegal workers"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/03/uselections2008.usa
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:32:45 -0500, Rabid Weasel Lawson <lawson@NO21931SPAM+dayton.net>
wrote:
>...whining ...
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>taxpayer sticker shock
Don't you know?
You seem totally clueless.
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>...Foreign...
Reality seems so strange to the bigot.
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>taxpayer sticker shock
How much are your illegal invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq costing?
Don't you know?
Your idols Bush and Cheney murder a lot more people
than any Mexicans ever did, but you can't keep track.
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not attempt to discard them.
It may take awhile, at best.
*us*
but that's okay with their pawn.
*us*
Nobody wants your ilk.
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>Bush should be ...
They're mass murderers.
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The bigot is inferior.
There are far more murderers in the GOP.
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>... very poorly educated...
You sure are.
http://www.historyguide.org/europe/lecture10.html
>Actually, Stalin ...
Jealous?
>Thank you, liberals !
The liberal-hater supports the war crimes of
Bush and Cheney, who have murdered many.
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documentary on national geographic channel that talked about white supremacy
spreading the hatred of illegal immigrants you should watch"
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091002001310AAq2Avl
Nobody wants your ilk.
Especially not actual Americans ...
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are responsible for a disproportionate share of crime in America"
http://mediamattersaction.org/reports/fearandloathing/online_version
The real criminals harming America are Bush and Cheney.
>...Gang Initiation
http://usliberals.about.com/od/immigration/a/IllegalImmi.htm
You should know:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/03/uselections2008.usa
>...whining ...
You're an easily-duped idiot.
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health-care crisis, and the continuing war in Iraq, to name a few. But viewers of some of
the most prominent cable news programs are presented a different reality, one in which one
issue stands above all others: illegal immigration.
Media Matters Action Network undertook this study in order to document the rhetoric
surrounding immigration that is heard on cable news. When it comes to this issue, cable
news overflows not just with vitriol, but also with a series of myths that feed viewers'
resentment and fears, seemingly geared toward creating anti-immigrant hysteria."
http://mediamattersaction.org/reports/fearandloathing/online_version
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Michigan revealed both that immigrants committed fewer crimes than native-born citizens,
and that a greater proportion of immigrants in a neighborhood was associated with lower
rates of crime"
http://mediamattersaction.org/reports/fearandloathing/online_version
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bulk of those committing crimes), the incarceration rate was five times higher for the
native-born than for the foreign-born. This held true within ethnic and national-origin
groups, meaning, for instance, that native-born Latinos were more likely to be
incarcerated than foreign-born Latinos. A recent study by the Public Policy Institute of
California found that in that state, which contains more immigrants than any other, the
foreign-born are incarcerated at a rate half as high as their presence in the population,
and only one-tenth as high among men age 18-40, who make up the bulk of prisoners."
http://mediamattersaction.org/reports/fearandloathing/online_version
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not attempt to discard them.
It may take awhile, at best.
"Variables significantly associated with conservatism, we now know,
include fear and aggression (Adorno et al., 1950; Altemeyer, 1998;
Lavine et al., 1999), dogmatism and intolerance of ambiguity (Fibert
& Ressler, 1998; Frenkel-Brunswik, 1948; Rokeach, 1960; Sidanius, 1978),
uncertainty avoidance (McGregor et al., 2001; Sorrentino & Roney, 1986;
Wilson, 1973b), need for cognitive closure (Golec, 2001; Jost et al., 1999;
Kemmelmeier, 1997; Kruglanski & Webster, 1996), personal need for
structure (Altemeyer, 1998; Schaller et al., 1995; Smith & Gordon, 1998),
terror management (Dechesne et al., 2000; Greenberg et al., 1990, 1992;
Wilson, 1973d), group-based dominance (Pratto et al., 1994; Sidanius,
1993; Sidanius & Pratto, 1999), and system justification (Jost & Banaji,
1994; Jost et al., 2001; Jost & Thompson, 2000).
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criminals because they are trying to escape poverty and worse and are deperately looking
for a better life? we as a country do need regulation when it come to immigration (after
all, how different would this country have been had native americans had sensible
immigration laws?) but to refer to these people as criminals make it seem as though
citizens are in some kind of danger from these people who are mostly poor but very hard
working. so, maybe we should just call all of us criminals becuase even citizens break the
laws of this country on a pretty regular basis. when you speed do you turn yourself in to
pay for your crime? when you jaywalk, do you go down to the courthouse to pay for your
lawbreaking?
if you want to discuss immigration, thats a legitimate arguement to have. however, calling
these people criminals and worse does not help to move the dicussion forward. let me ask
you a question? if you were poor and had no hope to provide for your family, but you knew
that if you just crossed a border you could get a job that would provide for your family,
would you do it or would you let your family suffer because you did not want to break the
law?"
http://mediamatters.org/blog/200909280002
>Bush should be ...
They're mass murderers.
You worship them.
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crimes than American citizens; indeed, the evidence strongly suggests that immigrants in
general are less likely to commit crimes."
http://mediamattersaction.org/reports/fearandloathing/online_version
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>He [sic] probably illegal somewhere.
Is education illegal in your inbred klan?
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:05:15 -0400, elmer <e...@f.udd> wrote:
>...not in America...not an American.
If you were on the same side as America, you'd realize
that the real enemies of the USA are Bush and Cheney,
not those who harvest foods Americans eat.
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:29:32 GMT, ss...@anywhere.net (an Abomination) wrote:
>I'm all for paying a living wage to American citizens to harvest the
>food.
Prove it, lying bushfilth ssucker.
You don't even want Americans to have healthcare.
You hate the vast majority of Americans, bushkultie.
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:00:54 GMT, ss...@anywhere.net (an Abomination) wrote:
>...YOU CAN VOTE!
You can't: the electronics will 'vote' for you.
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:03:02 GMT, ho...@home.net (Roselles's Nemesis) wrote:
>... should have nuked ...
So you confess that you're a terrorist.
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:15:55 -0500, Rabid Weasel Lawson <lawson@NO13074SPAM+dayton.net>
wrote:
>Normal, Healthy people consider folks that commit illegal actions to be
>"Criminals."
So you support bringing the war criminals Bush and Cheney to trial, right?
After all, you don't disagree with the findings of the Nuremberg Tribunals,
do you?
In perspective, those traitors cost the USA too much.
Meanwhile, you're eating food harvested by those you despise, and you
would starve without their efforts.
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American Immigration Law Foundation, found two years ago that while the number of
unauthorized Latino immigrants in the country doubled between 1994 and 2005, violent crime
during the same period dropped nearly 35 percent."
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2009/mar/01/co-the-illegal-immigrant-crime-myth/
The bigot is too stupefied to comprehend reality, though.
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"The perception of high crime rates by illegal immigrants is pure myth"
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2009/mar/01/co-the-illegal-immigrant-crime-myth/