Palin Punks Out! Quits Before Term is Served
Slim
Palin to Resign as Alaska Governor on July 26
By Philip Rucker and Eli Saslow Washington Post Staff Writers Friday,
July 3, 2009 4:06 PM
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin (R) announced this afternoon she will resign
from office on July 26 and return to private life, a stunning decision
by last year's Republican vice presidential candidate to leave office
before the end of her first term.
"We know we can effect positive change outside government at this
moment in time on another scale and actually make a difference for our
priorities," Palin said in a news conference alongside a lake in her
hometown of Wasilla, Alaska.
Using a basketball analogy, Palin said, "I know when it's time to pass
the ball for victory."
Palin, 45, is a major star in the GOP and is seen as a leading
candidate for the party's presidential nomination in 2012. Her decision
not to run for reelection in 2010 and to leave office imminently came
as a shock to Republican strategists today.
"We've seen a lot of nutty behavior from governors and Republican
leaders in the last three months, but this one is at the top of that,"
said John Weaver, a longtime friend and confidant of Sen. John McCain
(R-Ariz.), the party's presidential nominee in 2008 whose of selection
of Palin catapulted the first-term Alaska governor to national
prominence.
Alaska Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell (R), who will succeed Palin, appeared with
Palin and complimented her service to the state.
--
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and
carrying the cross." - Sinclair Lewis
Morbius
and if she didnt step down and was running for president youd rip her
up for not giving full attention to her job.
Youre a punkass pussy fag like all liberals and palin would make you
her bitch.And you know it ho.
Herbert Cannon
Shava_X
> I reckon she is tired of dealing with retarded morons like you.
So You, Herbert, think She is wholly unfit for any political office?
Herbert Cannon
"Shava_X" <voodo...@rocketNOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
news:glw3m.3376$vO4....@flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com...
> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:11:57 -0500, Herbert Cannon wrote:
>
>> I reckon she is tired of dealing with retarded morons like you.
>
>
> So You, Herbert, think She is wholly unfit for any political office?
>
Slim
Riiiiiiiiight....A loser like her who raises a whore who breeds a
bastard of wedlock while braying about "abstenence" needs to be in
charge of America.
Slim
> I reckon she is tired of dealing with retarded morons like you.
No...more like she is tired of dealing with the retarded moron she gave
birth to.
Slim
Alaska elected her, didn't they?
Slim
He doesn't spend time crusing in the mens rooms at truckstops like you do.
Herbert Cannon
"Slim" <sl...@pickins.com> wrote in message
news:2009070322074277923-slim@pickinscom...
> On 2009-07-03 20:46:58 -0400, "Herbert Cannon" <hcan...@cox.net> said:
>
>>
>> "Shava_X" <voodo...@rocketNOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:glw3m.3376$vO4....@flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com...
>>> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:11:57 -0500, Herbert Cannon wrote:
>>>
>>>> I reckon she is tired of dealing with retarded morons like you.
>>>
>>>
>>> So You, Herbert, think She is wholly unfit for any political office?
>>>
>> So you, Shava, never had to deal with the public much?
>
> He doesn't spend time crusing in the mens rooms at truckstops like you
> do.
That is so I can arrest disgusting perverts preying on small boys like you
faggot face.
Herbert Cannon
> On 2009-07-03 19:18:36 -0400, Shava_X <voodo...@rocketNOSPAMmail.com>
> said:
>
>> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:11:57 -0500, Herbert Cannon wrote:
>>
>>> I reckon she is tired of dealing with retarded morons like you.
>>
>>
>> So You, Herbert, think She is wholly unfit for any political office?
>
> Alaska elected her, didn't they?
>
dark after sticking his head up his ass.
Herbert Cannon
No brain dead retarded morons with their heads stuck up their asses like you
Slimy get really tiresome. Do a service for humanity and kill yourself.
Herbert Cannon
>
> Riiiiiiiiight....A loser like her who raises a whore who breeds a bastard
> of wedlock while braying about "abstenence" needs to be in charge of
> America.
Who the fuck bred a retarded brain dead moron like you. Your mother must
have cruised every port in the land and fucked every retard to get a super
duper retard like you, Slimy.
hal
you're a pathetic excuse for a human being
Herbert Cannon
<hal> wrote in message news:d6jt45d8afqsb10dk...@4ax.com...
You need to do the same service for humanity.
suds mcduff
---Can a criminal indictment be far behind ? <grin>
Herbert Cannon
"suds mcduff" <sudsmcd...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:51I3m.19211$Xl4....@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
> Slim wrote:
>>
>> Palin to Resign as Alaska Governor on July 26
Evidence? She sure does scare you. You just cannot quit talking about her.
Even goof ball Letterman. Keep it up - gives her name recognition that a
politician would envy.
Slim
Arrest? You? A LEO?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
I can see you pracing around in your "Village People" Cop outfit!
Slim
ONCE AGAIN! Popgun is all about killing.
Slim
First Whore of Alaska.
Herbert Cannon
Slimy, First Punk of RMA.
Shava_X
i have dealt with the public, on a minor level, but i am not a politician
attempting to continue as a national level figure. If Sarah Palin can
not handle negative comments from the press, jokes in poor taste from
comedians, and far worse from others, She can not handle being a national
political figure. Those are some of the burdens She will will have no
choice but to put up with if She wants to be president, or any other
prominent, highly visible, national level political player.
Shava_X
> On 2009-07-03 19:18:36 -0400, Shava_X <voodo...@rocketNOSPAMmail.com>
> said:
>
>> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:11:57 -0500, Herbert Cannon wrote:
>>
>>> I reckon she is tired of dealing with retarded morons like you.
>>
>>
>> So You, Herbert, think She is wholly unfit for any political office?
>
> Alaska elected her, didn't they?
The citizens of Alaska did elect Her, and now She is backing out on them
before finishing even a single term.
Morbius
> On 2009-07-03 17:27:28 -0400, Morbius <billamaho...@yahoo.com> said:
>
>
>
> > On Jul 3, 5:24Â pm, Slim <s...@pickins.com> wrote:
> >> Palin to Resign as Alaska Governor on July 26
> > ۬Friday,
Yeah but the difference is that i tell you what you are to your face
and youd just walk away.
You know it, i know it.Everyone reading this knows it.Nut by all means
have fun acting tough on this here interweb.
Just dont forget what you really are.
Herbert Cannon
"Shava_X" <voodo...@rocketNOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
term? Where does is say that someone "owes" a full term? She should have
quit when she was running as vice president on the Repub ticket. She is a
free agent. A greedy politician would attempt to stay in office and do
something else at the same time. One with integrity gives up the office,
since he or she cannot devote full time to it anymore. Did you see either
Obama of McCain give up their senate seats to run for the presidency? Do you
think they devoted anytime to their duties as a Senator during that period.
The reason so much news coverage is devoted to her is fear that she is a
viable challenging candidate.
Herbert Cannon
> On 2009-07-03 23:22:34 -0400, "Herbert Cannon" <hcan...@cox.net> said:
>
>>
>>
>> No brain dead retarded morons with their heads stuck up their asses like
>> you Slimy get really tiresome. Do a service for humanity and kill
>> yourself.
>
> ONCE AGAIN! Popgun is all about killing.
>
Slim
So says the Biggest Coward of RMA.
Slim
She is quitting before she is asked to leave...the indictments are
almost ready.
Slim
I know that I am not some inbred hillbilly white trash like you.
Get back to us when you learn some basic spelling, grammar and punctuation.
You should ge able to leave the sixth grade in a year or two.
Slim
You can't equate Palin with "integrity".
She is a fucking hypocrite and a loser who can't fulfil the obligation
of her office.
hal
<hcan...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>"Shava_X" <voodo...@rocketNOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
>news:kVK3m.3392$vO4....@flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com...
>> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:06:59 -0400, Slim wrote:
>>
>>> On 2009-07-03 19:18:36 -0400, Shava_X <voodo...@rocketNOSPAMmail.com>
>>> said:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:11:57 -0500, Herbert Cannon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I reckon she is tired of dealing with retarded morons like you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So You, Herbert, think She is wholly unfit for any political office?
>>>
>>> Alaska elected her, didn't they?
>>
>>
>> The citizens of Alaska did elect Her, and now She is backing out on them
>> before finishing even a single term.
>>
>Or has she decided to do something else. Does she "owe" the citizens a full
>term?
clearly
> Where does is say that someone "owes" a full term? She should have
>quit when she was running as vice president on the Repub ticket. She is a
>free agent. A greedy politician would attempt to stay in office and do
>something else at the same time. One with integrity gives up the office,
>since he or she cannot devote full time to it anymore. Did you see either
>Obama of McCain give up their senate seats to run for the presidency? Do you
>think they devoted anytime to their duties as a Senator during that period.
>The reason so much news coverage is devoted to her is fear that she is a
>viable challenging candidate.
>
BWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA !!!
Palin "viable" challenger to Obama? OMG you ARE nuts. As if anyone
ever doubted.
Herbert Cannon
<hal> wrote in message news:f37v459o6pur6tlus...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 12:44:55 -0500, "Herbert Cannon"
> <hcan...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Shava_X" <voodo...@rocketNOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:kVK3m.3392$vO4....@flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com...
>>> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:06:59 -0400, Slim wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2009-07-03 19:18:36 -0400, Shava_X
>>>> <voodo...@rocketNOSPAMmail.com>
>>>> said:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:11:57 -0500, Herbert Cannon wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I reckon she is tired of dealing with retarded morons like you.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So You, Herbert, think She is wholly unfit for any political office?
>>>>
>>>> Alaska elected her, didn't they?
>>>
>>>
>>> The citizens of Alaska did elect Her, and now She is backing out on them
>>> before finishing even a single term.
>>>
>>Or has she decided to do something else. Does she "owe" the citizens a
>>full
>>term?
>
> clearly
Really you mean she cannot quit? Tell me where it says a politician cannot
quit if they want to and do something else. I believe that is called
slavery.
>
>> Where does is say that someone "owes" a full term? She should have
>>quit when she was running as vice president on the Repub ticket. She is a
>>free agent. A greedy politician would attempt to stay in office and do
>>something else at the same time. One with integrity gives up the office,
>>since he or she cannot devote full time to it anymore. Did you see either
>>Obama of McCain give up their senate seats to run for the presidency? Do
>>you
>>think they devoted anytime to their duties as a Senator during that
>>period.
>>The reason so much news coverage is devoted to her is fear that she is a
>>viable challenging candidate.
>>
> BWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA !!!
>
> Palin "viable" challenger to Obama? OMG you ARE nuts. As if anyone
> ever doubted.
Obama the charlatan messiah? The man who never even managed something even
as large as a Dairy Queen. The one who employs tax cheats and promised no
lobbyists. He is already screwing up by the numbers. He got a stimulus bill
passed in which he promised no earmarks. It is littered with earmarks. No
one even read it. He went to Europe and his trip flopped. He asked for more
troops for Afghanistan and they said no. He asked them to stimulate their
economy more and they said no. He tried to save businesses that will go
bankrupt. His number is up. Cap and trade will sink him; and trying to
emulate failed socialized medicine in other countries will put the last nail
in his coffin. Not to mention his getting chummy with Chavez et al.
No wonder you are so afraid of Palin. If she was such a big loser why are
you talking so much about her? She should not even merit a passing murmur.
With Obama all you have to do is feed him rope and watch him make his own
hangman's knot to hand himself.
Herbert Cannon
> On 2009-07-04 11:52:48 -0400, Shava_X <voodo...@rocketNOSPAMmail.com>
> said:
>
>> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:06:59 -0400, Slim wrote:
>>
>>> On 2009-07-03 19:18:36 -0400, Shava_X <voodo...@rocketNOSPAMmail.com>
>>> said:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:11:57 -0500, Herbert Cannon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I reckon she is tired of dealing with retarded morons like you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So You, Herbert, think She is wholly unfit for any political office?
>>>
>>> Alaska elected her, didn't they?
>>
>>
>> The citizens of Alaska did elect Her, and now She is backing out on them
>> before finishing even a single term.
>
> She is quitting before she is asked to leave...the indictments are almost
> ready.
>
Herbert Cannon
You are both a punk and a coward.
Herbert Cannon
>
> You can't equate Palin with "integrity".
What I cannot equate is you with any intelligence beyond that of a rotting
cabbage.
>
> She is a fucking hypocrite and a loser who can't fulfil the obligation of
> her office.
If she is such a loser why are you yapping about her so much? She must have
made you shit yourself. She jumped at you and said boo.
Herbert Cannon
> On 2009-07-03 23:17:17 -0400, "Herbert Cannon" <hcan...@cox.net> said:
>
>>
>> "Slim" <sl...@pickins.com> wrote in message
>> news:2009070322074277923-slim@pickinscom...
>>> On 2009-07-03 20:46:58 -0400, "Herbert Cannon" <hcan...@cox.net> said:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Shava_X" <voodo...@rocketNOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:glw3m.3376$vO4....@flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com...
>>>>> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:11:57 -0500, Herbert Cannon wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I reckon she is tired of dealing with retarded morons like you.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So You, Herbert, think She is wholly unfit for any political office?
>>>>>
>>>> So you, Shava, never had to deal with the public much?
>>>
>>> He doesn't spend time crusing in the mens rooms at truckstops like you
>>> do.
>>
>> That is so I can arrest disgusting perverts preying on small boys like
>> you faggot face.
>
> Arrest? You? A LEO?
>
> BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
Got your dick caught in your zipper again.
>
> I can see you pracing around in your "Village People" Cop outfit!
I see you prancing around in an orange outfit.
Slim
As opposed to failure Bush who never created a sucessful business, who
drive scores of companies into the ground?
http://alaric3rh.home.sprynet.com/science/bceo.html
Several researchers have investigated the business history of the Bush
family. The facts that they have uncovered are not very pretty. The
business record of George W. Bush holds some revealing insights to how
his presidency has operated, and helps to explain why the country has
fallen so deeply in debt and has so many other problems.
As explained by Kevin Phillips in his book, American Dynasty:
Aristocracy, Fortune, and the Politics of Deceit in the House of Bush,
George W. Bush's businesses fail but he makes millions. Among Mr.
Bush's business ventures:
• Arbusto, an oil exploration company, lost money, but it got
considerable investments (nearly $5 million) because even losing oil
investments were useful as tax shelters.
• Spectrum 7 Energy Corp. bought out Arbusto in 1984 and hired Mr.
Bush to run the company's oil interests in Midland, Texas. The oil
business collapsed as oil prices plummeted by 1986, and Spectrum 7
Energy was near failure.
• Harken Energy acquired Mr. Bush's Spectrum 7 Energy shares, and he
got Harken shares, a directorship, and a consulting arrangement in
return. Harken, under Bush, brought in Saudi real estate tycoon Sheikh
Abdullah Bakhsh as a board member and a major investor. Over the next
few years, Harken would turn out to have links to: Saudi money,
CIA-connected Filipinos, the Harvard Endowment, the emir of Bahrain,
and the shadowy Bank of Credit and Commerce International.
> • A 1991 internal SEC document suggested George W. Bush violated
> federal securities law at least 4 times in the late 1980s and early
> 1990s in selling Harken stock while serving as a director of Harken.
> This is essentially the same kind of activity that Martha Stewart is
> going to prison over. Except at the time of the investigation, Mr.
> Bush's father was president and the case was quietly dropped.
In his book, Worse Than Watergate: The Secret Presidency of George W.
Bush, John W. Dean explains that his family name and his father's
prominence were significant factors in George W. Bush's business
"success", or, were significant factors in repeated saves from serious
business and financial failures. Both Arbusto/Bush Exploration and
Spectrum 7 failed with Bush as chairman and CEO. At Harken, Mr. Bush
was relieved of day-to-day management responsibilities but still served
on the board of directors. Dean also notes:
• George W. Bush claims his formative years, which he extends to age
40, are out of bounds. Yet those are the years when one's character and
values are formed. Bush had occasionally overindulged with alcohol, and
he was a bit of an irresponsible youth.
• Dean believes Mr. Bush took advantage of his insider information
when he sold his Harken stock in 1990, but he escaped SEC penalties
because his father was president and many of the investigating
officials had Bush family ties and other conflicts of interest. Many of
the facts about the Harken deal remain buried and Bush has stonewalled
all efforts to find out more.
Our first oil company/MBA president naturally views the world through
the eyes of a CEO, according to Eric Alterman and Mark Green. In their
book, The Book on Bush: How George W. (Mis)leads America, they describe
how this results in a probusiness/anticonsumer record, including crony
capitalism with the awarding of post-Iraq war contracts (Halliburton,
Bechtel, and MCI/Worldcom getting most of the contracts). Alterman and
Green note that the first 2 years of the Bush administration coincided
with the biggest corporate scandals and bankruptcies since Teapot Dome
in the 1920s. Mr. Bush had to manage a falling economy riddled with
corporate malfeasance. Companies on the corporate rap sheet:
• MCI/Worldcom -- the single largest corporate securities fraud in
U.S. history.
• Enron -- the largest contributor to Bush's political career. The
Bush administration is staffed with numerous former Enron employees and
consultants.
• Harken Energy -- Bush's behavior on Harken's board of directors was
similar to that of the companies caught in the corporate scandals. Mr.
Bush received several memos from Harken officials about the impending
financial crisis in the company, sold his stock, then several days
later the Harken financial problems wewre made public. He failed to
file notice of these sales to the SEC for 8 months. The SEC simply
stopped their 1990-91 investigation.
• Halliburton -- Dick Cheney served as CEO and chairman from
1995-2000. He sold Halliburton stock before bad financial news
regarding his company was made public. Halliburton committed fraud on
its investors by overstating its earnings.
• Enron and Worldcom were followed by scandals and failures at
Adelphia, Tyco, and others.
As he did to his unsuccessful businesses, George W. Bush is doing to
the country -- leading it down a path of failure:
• huge federal deficits
• mismanagement
• deception
• cronyism.
The Bush family has had financial and oil business ties with Middle
Eastern countries for decades. As explained by Kevin Phillips in his
2004 book, American Dynasty: Aristocracy, Fortune, and the Politics of
Deceit in the House of Bush:
• "no other political family in the United States has had anything
remotely resembling the Bushes' four-decade relationship with the Saudi
royal family and the oil sheikhs of the Persion Gulf" (page 315).
• The investment firm, The Carlyle Group, is run by the Bush crowd
(George H.W. Bush, James Baker III, and Frank Carlucci have been/are
its top managers and advisers). The Carlyle Group served as an
interface between these Bush characters and the Saudi bin Laden family.
"Some commentators felt that some connections between the bin Ladens
and their black-sheep relative (Osama bin Laden) persisted" (page 315).
This connection directly links George W. Bush to Al Quaeda and leads to
the logical question: In spite of the president's rhetoric, are Mr.
Bush and Osama actually working together? Could that be why Osama bin
Laden hasn't been caught?
• "Greg Palast (asked) 'What made this new president [George W. Bush]
take particular care to protect the Saudis (after the September 11
terrorist attack), even to the point of stymieing his own intelligence
agencies?' The answers, he said, kept coming back 'Carlyle' and
'Arbusto,' the two prominent interfaces between the finances of the
Bush family and those of the bin Laden family" (page 316).
• The Bush administration demanded major deletions (especially in the
28-page section dealing with the role played by the Saudis and other
foreign governments) in the 2003 joint report of the House and Senate
Intelligence Committees on the origins of the 9/11 attack and how it
might have been prevented (page 316).
Kevin Phillips comes to a frightening conclusion about the Bushes and
America in his book on page 330:
• Mr. Bush's main advisor, Karl Rove, is an avid reader of
Machiavelli. Machiavelli wrote his books, The Prince and The
Discourses, during the early sixteenth century at a time when his own
Florentine republic was undergoing political turmoil. "French, German,
and Spanish imperial power was overrunning Europe, including Italy,
through a scale of wealth and military capacity that doomed many of the
old city-states. Florence (Machiavelli's home), one such, surrendered
its republican status in the 1530s and took the Medici as hereditary
rulers. ... the advice Machiavelli gives in The Prince was dedicated to
the Medicis and designed to work in the new princely, aristocratic, and
neo-imperial milieu of 16th-century Italy."
• "The possibility that the United States could edge toward its own
Machiavellian moment in an early-21st-century milieu of terrorism,
neo-imperialism, and dynastization is not far-fetched."
> • "Chapter 4, in its discussion of Bush domestic policy and
> 'compassionate conservative' rhetoric, has already referred to
> Machiavelli's advice that the Prince should lie but must 'be able to
> disguise this character well, and to be a great feigner and
> dissembler.' Moreover, 'to see and hear him, he [the Prince] should
> seem to be all mercy, faith, integrity, humanity and religion. And
> nothing is more necessary than to seem to have this last quality. ...
> Everybody sees what you appear to be, few feel what you are.'"
> • "Other advice dwells on the merits of fraud, hypocrisy,
> faithlessness, and related practices, and 20th century academicians
> have noted Machiavelli's appeal to leaders like Hitler, Stalin, and
> Mussolini. Doubtless there are also hundreds of copies of The Prince at
> the CIA. Which makes it revealing, and arguably ill advised, that the
> two political advisers to the two Bush presidents should claim it as a
> bible of sorts."
> • "Even in religion, Machiavelli's advice to emphasize it is relevant
> to the early-21st-century United States. His career in Florence
> overlapped that of Friar Girolamo Savonarola, the Religious despot who
> ruled the gasping republic from 1494 to 1498 with a politics of
> fighting sin and immorality. Doubtless the youthful Machiavelli
> absorbed how close Savonarola came to achieving a theocracy even in
> republican Florence. Not a few Americans see a little bit of Savonarola
> in George W. Bush."
> • "The advent of a Machiavelli-inclined dynasty (the Bush dynasty) in
> what may be a Machiavellian Moment for the American Republic is not a
> happy coincidence, but one that demands attention."
Herbert Cannon
Bush is no longer in office. Do try to keep up with current events. Obama
has tripled Bush's deficits. You know the deficits you howled about when
Bush was in office.
suds mcduff
---Let's just say informed speculation.....
She sure does scare you.
---Nah...the idiots that worship her scare me...I had no idea that the
midland was filled with such uninformed dopes...
You just cannot quit talking about her.
---She manages to keep herself in the limelight...then weeps about press
coverage...the gold standard repub hypocrisy....
> Even goof ball Letterman.
----Who could buy and sell you 100 times over....btw, his ratings were
huge with the Palin nonsense...Letterman wins again....
Keep it up - gives her name recognition that a
> politician would envy.
----Can't wait for the indictments to come down...more Repub dreams
swirling down the drain....
Shava_X
When She took the oath of office, She signed up for a full term. So,
Yes, She does owe the state a full term unless there is a damn good
reason to do otherwise. That incoherent ramble of a speech was not
sufficient. Ask Alaska's Republican Senator. The exact words were "the
Governor has decided to abandon the State and her constituents".
So You think She is greedy politician? Does that mean You will not
voting for Her?
Even if You do not count the 2008 Election, She has been doing 'other
things'. She has been raising money for both Herself and other
Republicans, giving speeches across the country, and writing a book,
among other things. She launched a personal political action committee
back in January. She has not done a great job of running it, but that is
beside the point. She is not resigning for any reason of ethics or
integrity. She is resigning for reasons of pure ambition. The (most
likely) reason She is resigning, and the reason for the press coverage,
is because this is part of Her plan to position Herself for a
presidential run in 2012. Whether or not it is a good move, or a viable
plan, we will just have to wait and see.
Shava_X
> <hal> wrote in message
> news:f37v459o6pur6tlus...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 12:44:55 -0500, "Herbert Cannon" <hcan...@cox.net>
>> wrote:
>> ...
>>>>
>>>> The citizens of Alaska did elect Her, and now She is backing out on
>>>> them before finishing even a single term.
>>>>
>>>Or has she decided to do something else. Does she "owe" the citizens a
>>>full
>>>term?
>>
>> clearly
>
> Really you mean she cannot quit? Tell me where it says a politician
> cannot quit if they want to and do something else. I believe that is
> called slavery.
>>
>>> ...
It is called making a commitment and following through on it. She made a
commitment to the People of Alaska. Now She has announced that She will
break that commitment. She has not given a good reason for this. She
has not even given a clear explanation. If She is so intent on
supporting the troops, She should follow their example and put service to
country ahead of personal gain.
Herbert Cannon
"Shava_X" <voodo...@rocketNOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
> On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:13:41 -0500, Herbert Cannon wrote:
>
>> <hal> wrote in message
>> news:f37v459o6pur6tlus...@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 12:44:55 -0500, "Herbert Cannon" <hcan...@cox.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> The citizens of Alaska did elect Her, and now She is backing out on
>>>>> them before finishing even a single term.
>>>>>
>>>>Or has she decided to do something else. Does she "owe" the citizens a
>>>>full
>>>>term?
>>>
>>> clearly
>>
>> Really you mean she cannot quit? Tell me where it says a politician
>> cannot quit if they want to and do something else. I believe that is
>> called slavery.
>>>
>>>> ...
>
>
> It is called making a commitment and following through on it.
You never quit a job? You never reneged on a committment?
She made a
> commitment to the People of Alaska. Now She has announced that She will
> break that commitment. She has not given a good reason for this.
She said. "When you are told to go with the flow, only dead fish do that."
Sounded like a good reason to me. Sounded like she got a political, " Go
along to get along" from her party. Sounded like her party was trying to
dictate to her and she was not having any of it. Knowing that she would now
be ineffective as Gov she opted out and turned over the reins. I dont even
think she has any national aspirations. I think she is rather tired of and
disgusted with politics and has decided to quit. Cannot say that I blame
her.
She is well respected in Alaska.
She
> has not even given a clear explanation.
Pretty clear if you know politics.
If She is so intent on
> supporting the troops, She should follow their example and put service to
> country ahead of personal gain.
Troops?. Troops sign a contract. She did not.
>
Herbert Cannon
"Shava_X" <voodo...@rocketNOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
Horsey manure. Politicians quit their offices all the time. They say
illness, illness in the family, business, better opportunity, want to spend
more time with the family, can no longer fullfill the obligations of office
etc.. I have heard innumerable reasons for leaving office from them. Face
it, if she had not run for vice pres and was now quitting, she would be no
more than a news blip on the 6 oclock report. It is interesting that the
news media, et al, has devoted more attention to her after the pres campaign
was over than during it. They were tearing at her when she was off the
national stage. Most unsuccessful vice pres candidates are immediately
forgotten. So why all the fuss about her?
It is strange.
That incoherent ramble of a speech was not
> sufficient. Ask Alaska's Republican Senator. The exact words were "the
> Governor has decided to abandon the State and her constituents".
Which one? Hey everyone is entitled to his opinion. Bet he hoping she does
not run for his seat.
>
>
> So You think She is greedy politician? Does that mean You will not
> voting for Her?
I dont think she will run again. I think she is opting out of politics. She
might work behind the scenes though.
> Even if You do not count the 2008 Election, She has been doing 'other
> things'. She has been raising money for both Herself and other
> Republicans, giving speeches across the country, and writing a book,
> among other things.
Yup. She is making money. Just like all the other politicians, who have name
recognition and have held office.
She launched a personal political action committee
> back in January. She has not done a great job of running it, but that is
> beside the point. She is not resigning for any reason of ethics or
> integrity. She is resigning for reasons of pure ambition.
Perhaps. But I rather doubt she would be very successful in a Presidentional
campaign. She does connect with the people and has a certain amount of
charisma. But not as a presidential candidate. As a Senator of vice pres
candidate she could be good.
The (most
> likely) reason She is resigning, and the reason for the press coverage,
> is because this is part of Her plan to position Herself for a
> presidential run in 2012. Whether or not it is a good move, or a viable
> plan, we will just have to wait and see.
I have my doubts; but that is a long way off and it is very difficult to
unseat an incumbent President. Unless he turns out to be a real fuck up like
Carter. And that could happen. She is one of the few candidates that can
say, "I buy groceries for a family." She has the common touch. If that is
her plan you can bet someone is advising her. But why dump the Governorship,
unless someone is trying to set her up. McCain's people did not like her at
all. But then he is a Democrat light and was not much a choice either.
>
>
Herbert Cannon
HAHAHAHAHAHHA more like bullshit, cow dung, bufflaloe patties and horse
manure. Yea you are plugged in to the top of Alaska's politics. HAHAHAHA
>
> She sure does scare you.
>
> ---Nah...the idiots that worship her scare me...I had no idea that the
> midland was filled with such uninformed dopes...
You much prefer the morons that watch and worship " The View" as their
guiding light.
>
> You just cannot quit talking about her.
>
> ---She manages to keep herself in the limelight...
Really she tells all those press pundits to cover her does she? My my what
power.
then weeps about press
> coverage...the gold standard repub hypocrisy....
Yeah I have seen inumerable pictures on the news showing her crying her eyes
out.
>
>> Even goof ball Letterman.
>
> ----Who could buy and sell you 100 times over...
Wow you must really hate him huh? Oh I know he is " poor rich" and not "
rich rich" so it is ok for him to be a democrap.
.btw, his ratings were
> huge with the Palin nonsense...Letterman wins again....
I saw his abject apology and how he said he was so sorry - typical liberal
hypocrisy. Maybe he was just shitting his pants cause his sponsors told him
he should not wind up like that shock jock on MSNBC who got fired.
You mean his rating went up? Gee must have been a lot of people who really
wanted to see him grovel huh?
>
> Keep it up - gives her name recognition that a
>> politician would envy.
>
> ----Can't wait for the indictments to come down...more Repub dreams
> swirling down the drain....
Hold your breath, Mr plugged in at the top of Alaska politics.
>
>
Morbius
> On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 12:44:55 -0500, Herbert Cannon wrote:
> >news:kVK3m.3392$vO4....@flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com...
> >> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:06:59 -0400, Slim wrote:
>
> >>> On 2009-07-03 19:18:36 -0400, Shava_X
>
> >>>> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:11:57 -0500, Herbert Cannon wrote:
>
> >>>>> I reckon she is tired of dealing with retarded morons like you.
>
> >>>> So You, Herbert, think She is wholly unfit for any political office?
>
> >>> Alaska elected her, didn't they?
>
> >> The citizens of Alaska did elect Her, and now She is backing out on
> >> them before finishing even a single term.
>
> > Or has she decided to do something else. Does she "owe" the citizens a
> > full term? Where does is say that someone "owes" a full term? She should
> > have quit when she was running as vice president on the Repub ticket.
> > She is a free agent. A greedy politician would attempt to stay in office
> > and do something else at the same time. One with integrity gives up the
> > office, since he or she cannot devote full time to it anymore. Did you
> > see either Obama of McCain give up their senate seats to run for the
> > presidency? Do you think they devoted anytime to their duties as a
> > Senator during that period. The reason so much news coverage is devoted
> > to her is fear that she is a viable challenging candidate.
>
> When She took the oath of office, She signed up for a full term.
prove it.site what she reads as shes inaugerated by alaske.
So,
> Yes, She does owe the state a full term unless there is a damn good
> reason to do otherwise.
she can step down when she chooses.
and people dont just vote ofr the governer, they vote for a ticket
that included lt governor generally.so they did vote ofr her
replacement should she step down.
frankly lets face it palin like her or not is a national figure, id
imagine its best for the people of alaska to have someone whos not
trying to look good to the usa leading them, but someone whos sole
empahsis os to look good to alaska.
palins honesty in stating this was very plain and impressive.
Morbius
> On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:13:41 -0500, Herbert Cannon wrote:
> > <hal> wrote in message
> >news:f37v459o6pur6tlus...@4ax.com...
> >> wrote:
> >> ...
>
> >>>> The citizens of Alaska did elect Her, and now She is backing out on
> >>>> them before finishing even a single term.
>
> >>>Or has she decided to do something else. Does she "owe" the citizens a
> >>>full
> >>>term?
>
> >> clearly
>
> > Really you mean she cannot quit? Tell me where it says a politician
> > cannot quit if they want to and do something else. I believe that is
> > called slavery.
>
> >>> ...
>
> It is called making a commitment and following through on it. She made a
> commitment to the People of Alaska.
please quote where she guarenteed a full term.
or retract the statement.
Slim
>
> You much prefer the morons that watch and worship " The View" as their
> guiding light.
You are still watching reruns of "Hee Haw".
Herbert Cannon
> On 2009-07-05 16:49:03 -0400, "Herbert Cannon" <hcan...@cox.net> said:
>>
>> You much prefer the morons that watch and worship " The View" as their
>> guiding light.
>
> You are still watching reruns of "Hee Haw".
>
Shava_X
The office of Lt. Governor has its own responsibilities. It is not there
to allow the Governor to bail out at any time on a whim. The terms are
set so there is no guessing about how long a person will be in office.
It is not supposed be a crap shoot on will they tomorrow? Next week?
Ever? The oath of office is an oath to follow the law, including term
lengths. She can resign with good reason, but that stammering, rambling
speech gave no good reason.
She is not the only Governor who is a national figure. Being a national
figure does not prevent Her from being a good, effective Governor of the
state of Alaska, unless She chooses to allow it do so. As Alaska's
Republican Senator put it, Palin has abandoned the state and her
constituency. She has broken the Oath She took to serve as Governor.
Shava_X
Illness, family turmoil, those would both be good reasons to resign.
Seeking out other options would have at least been a reason. She gave
none of that. Her speech delivery sounded like it had been coached by
Mark Sanford. The closest She gave to a reason was that other lame duck
governors acted inappropriately in Her opinion. She could have stayed on
and set a good example. With no need to maintain hopes for re-election,
She could have attempted to push through needed but politically unpopular
reforms. She could have found ways to use being a lame duck to Her
advantage. Instead She quit.
Her problems with Her own party are probably at the heart of this. She
is a maverick, but in the worst way. Some mavericks, like McCain, buck
the system and their own party for benefit of their state and their
country. She does it for Her own political gain. It has cost Her dearly
with the Republican party in Alaska. During the last meeting of the
state legislature, none of her initiative went through, not even Her
energy plan. Keep in mind, the Alaska legislature is controlled by the
Republican party. It voted down Her nominee for State Attorney General
almost unanimously. At its next meeting, more than one of Her veto's may
be overridden. There are also rumors that the Republican controlled
legislature may again open up an ethics investigation of Palin.
If She continued on that course, She would have track record as governor
that would make it nearly impossible to win election to any other
office. And She almost certainly has Her eyes on the White House. If
She were leaving politics, the first order of business should have been
shutting down SarahPAC. It is still up and going. The name says it
all. The short term goals may be to help other Republicans get (re)
elected, but it the long term, it is all about Sarah.
If the republican Primaries started today, She would be a front runner
(That is why there is so much fuss over Her). She would face stiff
competition from Mitt Romney, and possibly Newt Gingrich, but She would
have a very good chance to win the nomination. After that, things get
difficult. The 2012 election will be a referendum on Barack Obama. He
has about two and a half to three years to help or hinder the Republican
candidate. She has shown that She can fire up the Republican Party's
base. In the primary, that will serve Her very well, but that base has
narrowed and it can no longer win a general election on its own. She has
not yet shown any ability to widen the party base, so in the 2012
election it could really be all about Obama.
Will She really go for that? Face it. If She were really opting out of
politics, SarahPAC would be shut down by now. If She were planning on
only worling behind the scenes, the name would have been changed to
something else. It is still operating and it is still named SarahPAC.
It is all about Her.
She could have shown the courage to stand up and say "I am resigning
because being Governor of a state with a population smaller than some
congressional districts is getting in the way of my run for the White
House", But She did not. She stammered and talked around it.
Shava_X
> On Jul 5, 12:22 pm, Shava_X <voodopeo...@rocketNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:13:41 -0500, Herbert Cannon wrote:
>> > <hal> wrote in message
>> >news:f37v459o6pur6tlus...@4ax.com...
>> >> On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 12:44:55 -0500, "Herbert Cannon"
>> >> <hcanno...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> ...
>>
>> >>>> The citizens of Alaska did elect Her, and now She is backing out
>> >>>> on them before finishing even a single term.
>>
>> >>>Or has she decided to do something else. Does she "owe" the citizens
>> >>>a full
>> >>>term?
>>
>> >> clearly
>>
>> > Really you mean she cannot quit? Tell me where it says a politician
>> > cannot quit if they want to and do something else. I believe that is
>> > called slavery.
>>
>> >>> ...
>>
>> It is called making a commitment and following through on it. She made
>> a commitment to the People of Alaska.
>
> please quote where she guarenteed a full term. or retract the statement.
>
It is called the Oath of Office. It is a verbal contract, one She has
now broken. She knew what the term was when She started Her campaign.
If She was not up to serving a full term, She should have never run for
the office.
Shava_X
When jobs specified times, i have followed through and met the obligation
i agreed too.
Analogies, even ones involving fish, are neither reasons nor excuses.
She has given no concrete reason for ditching the state. She has never
backed down from the Alaskan Republican Party. Why the hell should She
start now? This has has has nothing to do the Republican party, and She
isn't half as well respected in Alaska as You and Her other supporters
would have the rest of believe. A legislature controlled by Her own
party investigated Her for ethics violations and almost unanimously
rejected Her pick for State Attorney General. Those are things that do
not happen to people respected. Look back at most of the negative
information about Her that flowed from Alaska and most of the time You
find a Republican at the source.
If She is bent on getting out of politics, and has no national
aspirations, Why is SarahPAC still chugging along?
She, like the members of the Armed Services, swore an oath. That is a
verbal contract. For service members, the written contract is only to
clarify the details. For Palin, the details are codified in Alaska law.
She has broken Her oath to the people of Alaska. Analogies to fish don't
work as reasons. Try getting out of an enlistment with that kind of
excuse.
Herbert Cannon
"Shava_X" <voodo...@rocketNOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
There is no specification that a politician has to serve out a term. You
believe political campaign promises? If you do you can start listing the
ones that Obama has broken.
> Analogies, even ones involving fish, are neither reasons nor excuses.
> She has given no concrete reason for ditching the state. She has never
> backed down from the Alaskan Republican Party. Why the hell should She
> start now?
I have no idea. Disgust? More probably she want to cash in on making money
while she can.
I can tell you though a lot of good people refuse to get involved in
politics because of what happens to them and their families.
This has has has nothing to do the Republican party
Who knows. She made the statement that she would help anybody who had the
best interest of her state at heart and she did not care about the party.
Sort of sounds like she may have had it with party politics.
, and She
> isn't half as well respected in Alaska as You and Her other supporters
> would have the rest of believe.
You speak for Alaska?
A legislature controlled by Her own
> party investigated Her for ethics violations and almost unanimously
> rejected Her pick for State Attorney General.
Almost. Did they reject the pick or not? And so what. Obama picked a bunch
of tax cheats to help him. Bad judgement abounds in the political arena.
Those are things that do
> not happen to people respected.
Horse shit. Those things happen to politicians all the time. They have
terrible arguments between them. I have witnessed them.
Look back at most of the negative
> information about Her that flowed from Alaska and most of the time You
> find a Republican at the source.
A river of negative information flows about all politicians. Get involved in
it and see what happens.
>
> If She is bent on getting out of politics, and has no national
> aspirations, Why is SarahPAC still chugging along?
$$$
>
> She, like the members of the Armed Services, swore an oath. That is a
> verbal contract. For service members, the written contract is only to
> clarify the details.
Different oath. Sign a contract with the armed services and fail to show.
See what happens. I believe that call that desertion not resignation. That
comparison is a stretch.
For Palin, the details are codified in Alaska law.
What details?. Cite the law Hell cite any law that says a poltician has to
serve out their term.
> She has broken Her oath to the people of Alaska. Analogies to fish don't
> work as reasons.
Did for her.
Try getting out of an enlistment with that kind of
> excuse.
Apples and oranges - you are stretching.
>
Herbert Cannon
"Shava_X" <voodo...@rocketNOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
> On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 16:31:23 -0700, Morbius wrote:
>
>> On Jul 5, 12:22 pm, Shava_X <voodopeo...@rocketNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:13:41 -0500, Herbert Cannon wrote:
>>> > <hal> wrote in message
>>> >news:f37v459o6pur6tlus...@4ax.com...
>>> >> On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 12:44:55 -0500, "Herbert Cannon"
>>> >> <hcanno...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> >> ...
>>>
>>> >>>> The citizens of Alaska did elect Her, and now She is backing out
>>> >>>> on them before finishing even a single term.
>>>
>>> >>>Or has she decided to do something else. Does she "owe" the citizens
>>> >>>a full
>>> >>>term?
>>>
>>> >> clearly
>>>
>>> > Really you mean she cannot quit? Tell me where it says a politician
>>> > cannot quit if they want to and do something else. I believe that is
>>> > called slavery.
>>>
>>> >>> ...
>>>
>>> It is called making a commitment and following through on it. She made
>>> a commitment to the People of Alaska.
>>
>> please quote where she guarenteed a full term. or retract the statement.
>>
>
>
> It is called the Oath of Office.
Qoute it.
It is a verbal contract, one She has
> now broken.
According only to you.
She knew what the term was when She started Her campaign.
> If She was not up to serving a full term, She should have never run for
> the office.
>
That is a personal decision. No one gets to make that for you.
Herbert Cannon
"Shava_X" <voodo...@rocketNOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
The terms are set so that the person has to run for re - election.
> It is not supposed be a crap shoot on will they tomorrow?
According to you they are not permitted to die in office.
Next week?
> Ever? The oath of office is an oath to follow the law, including term
> lengths. She can resign with good reason, but that stammering, rambling
> speech gave no good reason.
Good enough for her just not for you.
> She is not the only Governor who is a national figure. Being a national
> figure does not prevent Her from being a good, effective Governor of the
> state of Alaska, unless She chooses to allow it do so.
She is allowed to do what she wants.
As Alaska's
> Republican Senator put it, Palin has abandoned the state and her
> constituency.
Everyone is entitled to his opinion
She has broken the Oath She took to serve as Governor.
Why do you even care what she did? I dont.
>
Herbert Cannon
> On 2009-07-04 13:28:45 -0400, Morbius <billam...@yahoo.com> said:
>
>> On Jul 3, 10:05 pm, Slim <s...@pickins.com> wrote:
>>> On 2009-07-03 17:27:28 -0400, Morbius <billamaho...@yahoo.com> said:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jul 3, 5:24� pm, Slim <s...@pickins.com> wrote:
>>>>> Palin to Resign as Alaska Governor on July 26
>> �
>>>> ?�Friday,
>>>>> July 3, 2009 4:06 PM
>>>>> Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin (R) announced this afternoon she will resign
>>>>> from office on July 26 and return to private life, a stunning decision
>>>>> by last year's Republican vice presidential candidate to leave office
>>>>> before the end of her first term.
>>>>> "We know we can effect positive change outside government at this
>>>>> moment in time on another scale and actually make a difference for our
>>>>> priorities," Palin said in a news conference alongside a lake in her
>>>>> hometown of Wasilla, Alaska.
>>>>> Using a basketball analogy, Palin said, "I know when it's time to pass
>>>>> the ball for victory."
>>>>> Palin, 45, is a major star in the GOP and is seen as a leading
>>>>> candidate for the party's presidential nomination in 2012. Her decisio
>> n
>>>>> not to run for reelection in 2010 and to leave office imminently came
>>>>> as a shock to Republican strategists today.
>>>>> "We've seen a lot of nutty behavior from governors and Republican
>>>>> leaders in the last three months, but this one is at the top of that,"
>>>>> said John Weaver, a longtime friend and confidant of Sen. John McCain
>>>>> (R-Ariz.), the party's presidential nominee in 2008 whose of selection
>>>>> of Palin catapulted the first-term Alaska governor to national
>>>>> prominence.
>> h
>>>>> Palin and complimented her service to the state.
>>>>> "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and
>>>>> carrying the cross." - Sinclair Lewis
>>>
>>>> up for not giving full attention to her job.
>>>> Youre a punkass pussy fag like all liberals and palin would make you
>>>> her bitch.And you know it ho.
>>>
>>> Riiiiiiiiight....A loser like her who raises a whore who breeds a
>>> bastard of wedlock while braying about "abstenence" needs to be in
>>> charge of America.
>>
>> Yeah but the difference is that i tell you what you are to your face
>> and youd just walk away.
>> You know it, i know it.Everyone reading this knows it.Nut by all means
>> have fun acting tough on this here interweb.
>> Just dont forget what you really are.
>
> I know that I am not some inbred hillbilly white trash like you.
Nope you are some inbred hillbilly white trash much unlike him.
>
> Get back to us when you learn some basic spelling, grammar and
> punctuation.
Get back when you have a fully developed brain stem.
> You should ge able to leave the sixth grade in a year or two.
You will be re cycled in the third grade.
>
hal
<hcan...@cox.net> wrote:
>There is no specification that a politician has to serve out a term. You
>believe political campaign promises? If you do you can start listing the
>ones that Obama has broken.
>
feel free Herb. Just what promises has Obama broken? Keep in mind
he's been in office less than six months. So that fact that something
simply isn't done yet doesn't mean it's a broken promise. So go ahead
and list them.
>> Analogies, even ones involving fish, are neither reasons nor excuses.
>> She has given no concrete reason for ditching the state. She has never
>> backed down from the Alaskan Republican Party. Why the hell should She
>> start now?
>
>I have no idea. Disgust? More probably she want to cash in on making money
>while she can.
>I can tell you though a lot of good people refuse to get involved in
>politics because of what happens to them and their families.
only for people with really stupid families like the Palins.
Herbert Cannon
<hal> wrote in message news:v2t355h4j3m8jp3lm...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 07:47:07 -0500, "Herbert Cannon"
> <hcan...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>>There is no specification that a politician has to serve out a term. You
>>believe political campaign promises? If you do you can start listing the
>>ones that Obama has broken.
>>
>
> feel free Herb. Just what promises has Obama broken?
No lobbyist in the administration
No earmarks in the stimulus bill
Transparency - 300 pages added to the cap and trade bill after 3 am
Honesty - the town hall meeting about health care being such a set up even
the white house press corp lapdogs objected.
Too bad he did not say he would not hire tax cheats.
Keep in mind
> he's been in office less than six months. So that fact that something
> simply isn't done yet doesn't mean it's a broken promise. So go ahead
> and list them.
I just listed a few. I havent time this morning to list the whole lot.
>
suds mcduff
----Wow, you're really sure of yourself there, Dim....how bout if an
indictment comes down, you eschew RMA for a month?
>> She sure does scare you.
>>
>> ---Nah...the idiots that worship her scare me...I had no idea that the
>> midland was filled with such uninformed dopes...
>
> You much prefer the morons that watch and worship " The View" as their
> guiding light.
----And, you prefer morons who worship a woman that can't remember what
books, she's read, if at all....
>> You just cannot quit talking about her.
>>
>> ---She manages to keep herself in the limelight...
>
> Really she tells all those press pundits to cover her does she? My my what
> power.
----She has a full blown case of the Repub media paranoia...she
constantly seeks the media limelight....then cries foul when she
stumbles...typical Repub....
>
> then weeps about press
>> coverage...the gold standard repub hypocrisy....
>
> Yeah I have seen inumerable pictures on the news showing her crying her eyes
> out.
----Once again, a Repub tool who is literal when he wants to be...
>
>>> Even goof ball Letterman.
>> ----Who could buy and sell you 100 times over...
>
> Wow you must really hate him huh?
----I don't hate all the rich, Dim....just miserly, money grubbing
Repubs like you....
Oh I know he is " poor rich" and not "
> rich rich" so it is ok for him to be a democrap.
>
> .btw, his ratings were
>> huge with the Palin nonsense...Letterman wins again....
>
> I saw his abject apology and how he said he was so sorry - typical liberal
> hypocrisy. Maybe he was just shitting his pants cause his sponsors told him
> he should not wind up like that shock jock on MSNBC who got fired.
----BWAHAHAHAHAH! Letterman's an icon on network TV, you stupid dunce!
His ratings *increased* with the bloviating of the media starved
Palin...BTW, that shock jocks been rehired a long time since, dumb ass....
> You mean his rating went up? Gee must have been a lot of people who really
> wanted to see him grovel huh?
---Regardless....ratings skyrocketed....he probably sent Palin a thank
you note....
>> Keep it up - gives her name recognition that a
>>> politician would envy.
>> ----Can't wait for the indictments to come down...more Repub dreams
>> swirling down the drain....
>
> Hold your breath, Mr plugged in at the top of Alaska politics.
---Wow...a state with a little more than half a million people with a
built in source of revenue, and it was still too tough for your
goddess....Run, Sarah, Run....BWAHAHAHAHA
Herbert Cannon
>>
>>I have no idea. Disgust? More probably she want to cash in on making money
>>while she can.
>>I can tell you though a lot of good people refuse to get involved in
>>politics because of what happens to them and their families.
>
> only for people with really stupid families like the Palins.
Well thanks, Hal, you see you are the reason that good people stay out of
politics. That last sentence says it all from an ignorant loudmouth lout.
Too many of you around. Who the fuck wants to put with your stupidity.
Herbert Cannon
>>> ---Let's just say informed speculation.....
>>
>> HAHAHAHAHAHHA more like bullshit, cow dung, bufflaloe patties and horse
>> manure. Yea you are plugged in to the top of Alaska's politics. HAHAHAHA
>
> ----Wow, you're really sure of yourself there, Dim....how bout if an
> indictment comes down, you eschew RMA for a month?
How about the FBI just announcing she is not under any investigation. My my
all you speculators are just that bullshit throwers.
>>> She sure does scare you.
>>>
>>> ---Nah...the idiots that worship her scare me...I had no idea that the
>>> midland was filled with such uninformed dopes...
>>
>> You much prefer the morons that watch and worship " The View" as their
>> guiding light.
>
> ----And, you prefer morons who worship a woman that can't remember what
> books, she's read, if at all....
Coming from a guy who reads only propaganda that is funny. Just keep
watching the " View" I am sure they must be really yapping about her. Just
like you are.
>
>>> You just cannot quit talking about her.
>>>
>>> ---She manages to keep herself in the limelight...
>>
>> Really she tells all those press pundits to cover her does she? My my
>> what power.
>
> ----She has a full blown case of the Repub media paranoia...she constantly
> seeks the media limelight....then cries foul when she stumbles...typical
> Repub....
More like the media seeks her. Face it, Dump, she should have been no more
than a blip on the 6 Oclock news. What fascinates you about her? You just
cannot stop yapping about her. Look at you yap yap yap yap.
>
>>
>> then weeps about press
>>> coverage...the gold standard repub hypocrisy....
>>
>> Yeah I have seen inumerable pictures on the news showing her crying her
>> eyes out.
>
>
> ----Once again, a Repub tool who is literal when he wants to be...
Yeah I told the media to do all that talking. Once again the Democrap tool
that is doing all the yapping and claims he is not. Yap yap yap yap.
>>
>>>> Even goof ball Letterman.
>>> ----Who could buy and sell you 100 times over...
>>
>> Wow you must really hate him huh?
>
>
> ----I don't hate all the rich, Dim....just miserly, money grubbing Repubs
> like you....
You make allowances for groveling rich do you.
George Soros will happy to hear that along with Kennedy, Kerry, Feinstein,
Edwards, Turner, Buffiington etc. No you just hate the rich when it suits
you doncha you big hypocrite.
>
> Oh I know he is " poor rich" and not "
>> rich rich" so it is ok for him to be a democrap.
>>
>> .btw, his ratings were
>>> huge with the Palin nonsense...Letterman wins again....
>>
>> I saw his abject apology and how he said he was so sorry - typical
>> liberal hypocrisy. Maybe he was just shitting his pants cause his
>> sponsors told him he should not wind up like that shock jock on MSNBC who
>> got fired.
>
> ----BWAHAHAHAHAH!
Got your dick caught in your zipper again. Switch to buttons.
Letterman's an icon on network TV, you stupid dunce!
Really now he is a groveling Icon, how unique.
> His ratings *increased* with the bloviating of the media starved Palin...
The media that just cannot stop talking about her. Even after the election.
Is that the media that you are talking about. WOW some starvation.
BTW, that shock jocks been rehired a long time since, dumb ass....
Really, well what you do expect from a bunch of hypocrites. Funny though I
dont see him on his old program. Nothing like getting bit by your own dog.
>
>> You mean his rating went up? Gee must have been a lot of people who
>> really wanted to see him grovel huh?
>
>
> ---Regardless....ratings skyrocketed....he probably sent Palin a thank you
> note....
Just goes to show you how many people enjoyed seeing your hero clown and
icon grovel.
>
>>> Keep it up - gives her name recognition that a
>>>> politician would envy.
>>> ----Can't wait for the indictments to come down...more Repub dreams
>>> swirling down the drain....
>>
>> Hold your breath, Mr plugged in at the top of Alaska politics.
>
> ---Wow...a state with a little more than half a million people with a
> built in source of revenue, and it was still too tough for your
> goddess....Run, Sarah, Run...
.BWAHAHAHAHA
You really need to switch to buttons.
Obviously she scares the shit out of you too. Yes run Sarah run. Better
hope she doesnt run. But keeping yapping about her - it certainly gives her
a lot of publicity. See if you were smart you would shut up.
>
Morbius
and among them is to be governer should the acting one step down.
It is not there
> to allow the Governor to bail out at any time on a whim. The terms are
> set so there is no guessing about how long a person will be in office.
no.the term is set so they can be voted out if the populace wants them
out.
> It is not supposed be a crap shoot on will they tomorrow? Next week?
> Ever? The oath of office is an oath to follow the law, including term
> lengths. She can resign with good reason, but that stammering, rambling
> speech gave no good reason.
>
> She is not the only Governor who is a national figure. Being a national
> figure does not prevent Her from being a good, effective Governor of the
> state of Alaska,
it divdes her attentions though.
unless She chooses to allow it do so. As Alaska's
> Republican Senator put it, Palin has abandoned the state and her
> constituency. She has broken the Oath She took to serve as Governor.
she did abandon the state, but she sez its to help the state, she did
in no way break any oath im aware of.
Herbert Cannon
she did abandon the state, but she sez its to help the state, she did
in no way break any oath im aware of.
Perhaps that is because there is no oath. Just one her enemies wish existed.
TravIsGod
> he's been in office less than six months. So that fact that something
> simply isn't done yet doesn't mean it's a broken promise. So go ahead
> and list them.
Well he promised no earmarks and no lobbyists in his admin...those are
just 2 off the top of my head.
The short answer is "all of them."
Trav
Shuurai
> >believe political campaign promises? If you do you can start listing the
> >ones that Obama has broken.
> feel free Herb. Just what promises has Obama broken? Keep in mind
> he's been in office less than six months. So that fact that something
> simply isn't done yet doesn't mean it's a broken promise. So go ahead
> and list them.
1. He promised no earmarks, and then signed some of the most earmark
laden bills in history.
2. He promised more transparency, but his administration has gone to
great lengths to hide information; his White House is the first in
many years, for example, to keep secret the names of lobbyists who
visit.
3. Speaking of lobbyists, he promised there would be no lobbyists in
his administation; there are several.
4. He promised accountability; but at least five of his appointees
have tax problems, and he has recently been criticized by lawmakers
(on both sides) for creating over a dozen "Czar" positions that are
not accountable.
5. He promised bipartisanship, but has made zero effort to involve
his political critics in real discussion on any policy.
6. He promised to use public financing; but then declined it at the
last minute.
7. He promised fiscal responsibility; and then proceeded to spend at
a rate that is unprecedented. By the end of his first year he will
have outspent Bush and doubled the national debt; by the end of his
first term it will have doubled again. Between him and congress, we
now have arguably the least fiscally responsible government in
history.
There are certainly more; those are just the most obvious.
Shuurai
> > please quote where she guarenteed a full term. or retract the statement.
>
> It is called the Oath of Office. It is a verbal contract, one She has
> now broken. She knew what the term was when She started Her campaign.
> If She was not up to serving a full term, She should have never run for
> the office.
Taking an oath of office does not preclude resignation. Politicians
resign for all sorts of reasons.
Herbert Cannon
> >>> ---Let's just say informed speculation.....
>
> >> HAHAHAHAHAHHA more like bullshit, cow dung, bufflaloe patties and horse
> >> manure. Yea you are plugged in to the top of Alaska's politics. HAHAHAHA
>
> > ----Wow, you're really sure of yourself there, Dim....how bout if an
> > indictment comes down, you eschew RMA for a month?
>
of 2 million to the state of Alaska and a personal cost of of several
hundred thousand to her. Guess what they all cleared her. I reckon she
is tired of politics and morons like you wanting another
investigation.
What is next - you gonna make jokes about her Down syndrome daughter?
Face it she scares the shit out of you holier than thou hypocrites
cause she has the common touch. That is what your elitist President
cannot handle.
Herbert Cannon
"Shava_X" <voodo...@rocketNOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
Coached by Mark Sanford? Now you are making up bullshit like your non
existent oath she took that prevents her from quitting. How about coached by
Spitzer or Edwards. I expect Edwards could really coach her well.
The closest She gave to a reason was that other lame duck
> governors acted inappropriately in Her opinion. She could have stayed on
> and set a good example. With no need to maintain hopes for re-election,
> She could have attempted to push through needed but politically unpopular
> reforms. She could have found ways to use being a lame duck to Her
> advantage. Instead She quit.
After 15 ethics investigations, all of which cleared her, the expense of 2
million to the state of Alaska for them and several hundred thousand to
herself personally, I rather doubt she was losing her appetite to be the
knight on a white horse you envison. Sound to me like she was pretty well
being obstructed and got tired of it.
>
> Her problems with Her own party are probably at the heart of this.
Could be. They are all jockeying to see who will get the nomination.
She
> is a maverick, but in the worst way. Some mavericks, like McCain, buck
> the system and their own party for benefit of their state and their
> country.
Horseshit. They never should have run McCain. I know too many people that
stayed home and did not vote cause they considered him more a democrat than
a conservative. McCain's people never did like her.
She does it for Her own political gain.
They all do. If you think different you are on the wrong planet.
It has cost Her dearly
> with the Republican party in Alaska. During the last meeting of the
> state legislature, none of her initiative went through, not even Her
> energy plan.
Good reason for her to quit.
Keep in mind, the Alaska legislature is controlled by the
> Republican party.
Then I would have to say they may not be operating in the best interest of
the state.
It voted down Her nominee for State Attorney General
> almost unanimously. At its next meeting, more than one of Her veto's may
> be overridden. There are also rumors that the Republican controlled
> legislature may again open up an ethics investigation of Palin.
They have had 15 ethics investigations of her at a cost of $2 million to the
state and a couple of hundred thousand to her personally. All of those
investigations have cleared her. None have resulted in charges. Sounds like
she has told the good ole boys to go fuck themselves.
>
> If She continued on that course, She would have track record as governor
> that would make it nearly impossible to win election to any other
> office.
Based on what? Your somewhat inane analysis.
And She almost certainly has Her eyes on the White House. If
> She were leaving politics, the first order of business should have been
> shutting down SarahPAC. It is still up and going. The name says it
> all. The short term goals may be to help other Republicans get (re)
> elected, but it the long term, it is all about Sarah.
Right and Obama is not a narcist either.
>
> If the republican Primaries started today, She would be a front runner
> (That is why there is so much fuss over Her). She would face stiff
> competition from Mitt Romney, and possibly Newt Gingrich,
Newt will not run. Huckaby might. I fthat opposition is so stiff why all the
fuss over her resignation?
but She would
> have a very good chance to win the nomination. After that, things get
> difficult. The 2012 election will be a referendum on Barack Obama. He
> has about two and a half to three years to help or hinder the Republican
> candidate. She has shown that She can fire up the Republican Party's
> base. In the primary, that will serve Her very well, but that base has
> narrowed and it can no longer win a general election on its own. She has
> not yet shown any ability to widen the party base, so in the 2012
> election it could really be all about Obama.
No matter what is very hard for anyone to unseat a sitting president. Unless
Obama fucks up like Carter he will win a second term. In his second term
things he has supported will start coming apart and then he will fall apart.
He has no experience.
> Will She really go for that? Face it. If She were really opting out of
> politics, SarahPAC would be shut down by now. If She were planning on
> only worling behind the scenes, the name would have been changed to
> something else. It is still operating and it is still named SarahPAC.
> It is all about Her.
My boy all politicians have an ego as large as a skyscraper. Obama gave the
Queen of England an IPOD with his speeches on it. I wonder where she put it.
>
> She could have shown the courage to stand up and say "I am resigning
> because being Governor of a state with a population smaller than some
> congressional districts is getting in the way of my run for the White
> House", But She did not. She stammered and talked around it.
>
Face it you dont like her and that what it comes down to . You never liked
her and you do not like the idea.
Hell Obama only voted 30% of the time he was in the senate and spent half
his senate time running for president. I did not see you yapping about that.
Rabid Weasel Lawson
> On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 07:47:07 -0500, "Herbert Cannon"
> <hcan...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>>There is no specification that a politician has to serve out a term. You
>>believe political campaign promises? If you do you can start listing the
>>ones that Obama has broken.
>>
>
> feel free Herb. Just what promises has Obama broken? Keep in mind
> he's been in office less than six months. So that fact that something
> simply isn't done yet doesn't mean it's a broken promise. So go ahead
> and list them.
- "Sunlight before Signing" 5 day waiting period for the public to read
major legislation before it's signed
- No lobbyists in the admin
- No "Earmarks."
- Would include Republicans input and have a "bi-partisan" admin (he told
them "we won" when they complained they weren't getting their say)
- No increase of taxes on people making under 250K/200K/120K/90K (choose
your quote, he kept revising it down); enter Cap-N-Tax, Cigarette Tax, etc.
- "I will cut taxes-cut taxes-for 95 percent of all working
families": See above tax increases
There are others, but those are enough to invalidate your claim that Obama
hasn't broken any campaign promises.
(IH)
Slim
>
> "Shava_X" <voodo...@rocketNOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
> news:vCd4m.3487$vO4...@flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com...
>
>> If She was not up to serving a full term, She should have never run for
>> the office.
>>
> That is a personal decision. No one gets to make that for you.
Thats right, Popgun, you made the decison to be a hate-filled douchebag.
Slim
Riiiiiight....there is no "Oath of Office" for Governors.
Stanley Moore
<hal> wrote in message news:v2t355h4j3m8jp3lm...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 07:47:07 -0500, "Herbert Cannon"
> <hcan...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>>There is no specification that a politician has to serve out a term. You
>>believe political campaign promises? If you do you can start listing the
>>ones that Obama has broken.
>>
>
> feel free Herb. Just what promises has Obama broken? Keep in mind
> he's been in office less than six months. So that fact that something
> simply isn't done yet doesn't mean it's a broken promise. So go ahead
> and list them.
>
I cannot resist inserting myself here. He said that no income, payroll, or
any OTHER taxes would be increased for those making less that $250K per
annum. Yet cigarette taxes were greatly increased on his watch. If any
cigarette smokers are making less than 250K then that is a broken promise.
Take care
--
Stanley L. Moore
"The belief in a supernatural
source of evil is not necessary;
men alone are quite capable
of every wickedness."
Joseph Conrad
Stanley Moore
"Herbert Cannon" <hcan...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:6Pn4m.7343$dd4....@newsfe10.iad...
>
> <hal> wrote in message news:v2t355h4j3m8jp3lm...@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 07:47:07 -0500, "Herbert Cannon"
>> <hcan...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>There is no specification that a politician has to serve out a term. You
>>>believe political campaign promises? If you do you can start listing the
>>>ones that Obama has broken.
>>>
>>
>> feel free Herb. Just what promises has Obama broken?
>
> No lobbyist in the administration
> No earmarks in the stimulus bill
> Transparency - 300 pages added to the cap and trade bill after 3 am
> Honesty - the town hall meeting about health care being such a set up even
> the white house press corp lapdogs objected.
> Too bad he did not say he would not hire tax cheats.
>
He said that before he signed any bill it would appear on a website for at
least 5 days. Broke that one the first week. Take care
Stanley Moore
"Shava_X" <voodo...@rocketNOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
> On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 16:30:45 -0700, Morbius wrote:
>
>> On Jul 5, 12:06 pm, Shava_X <voodopeo...@rocketNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>>> >news:kVK3m.3392$vO4....@flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com...
>>> >> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:06:59 -0400, Slim wrote:
>>>
>>> >>> On 2009-07-03 19:18:36 -0400, Shava_X
>>>
>>> >>>> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:11:57 -0500, Herbert Cannon wrote:
>>>
>>> >>>>> I reckon she is tired of dealing with retarded morons like you.
>>>
>>> >>>> So You, Herbert, think She is wholly unfit for any political
>>> >>>> office?
>>>
>>> >>> Alaska elected her, didn't they?
>>>
>>> >> The citizens of Alaska did elect Her, and now She is backing out on
>>> >> them before finishing even a single term.
>>>
>>> > Or has she decided to do something else. Does she "owe" the citizens
>>> > a full term? Where does is say that someone "owes" a full term? She
>>> > should have quit when she was running as vice president on the Repub
>>> > ticket. She is a free agent. A greedy politician would attempt to
>>> > stay in office and do something else at the same time. One with
>>> > integrity gives up the office, since he or she cannot devote full
>>> > time to it anymore. Did you see either Obama of McCain give up their
>>> > senate seats to run for the presidency? Do you think they devoted
>>> > anytime to their duties as a Senator during that period. The reason
>>> > so much news coverage is devoted to her is fear that she is a viable
>>> > challenging candidate.
>>>
>>> When She took the oath of office, She signed up for a full term.
>>
>>
>>> Yes, She does owe the state a full term unless there is a damn good
>>> reason to do otherwise.
>>
>> and people dont just vote ofr the governer, they vote for a ticket that
>> included lt governor generally.so they did vote ofr her replacement
>> should she step down.
>> frankly lets face it palin like her or not is a national figure, id
>> imagine its best for the people of alaska to have someone whos not
>> trying to look good to the usa leading them, but someone whos sole
>> empahsis os to look good to alaska.
>> palins honesty in stating this was very plain and impressive.
>>
>>> sufficient. Ask Alaska's Republican Senator. The exact words were
>>> "the Governor has decided to abandon the State and her constituents".
>>>
>>> voting for Her?
>>> things'. She has been raising money for both Herself and other
>>> Republicans, giving speeches across the country, and writing a book,
>>> back in January. She has not done a great job of running it, but that
>>> is beside the point. She is not resigning for any reason of ethics or
>>> likely) reason She is resigning, and the reason for the press coverage,
>>> is because this is part of Her plan to position Herself for a
>>> presidential run in 2012. Whether or not it is a good move, or a
>>> viable plan, we will just have to wait and see.
>
>
> to allow the Governor to bail out at any time on a whim. The terms are
> set so there is no guessing about how long a person will be in office.
> Ever? The oath of office is an oath to follow the law, including term
> lengths. She can resign with good reason, but that stammering, rambling
> speech gave no good reason.
>
> She is not the only Governor who is a national figure. Being a national
> figure does not prevent Her from being a good, effective Governor of the
> Republican Senator put it, Palin has abandoned the state and her
> constituency. She has broken the Oath She took to serve as Governor.
>
I heard Karl Rove saying that she has done this before. When she resigned
from the Oil and Gas Board in Alaska. Take care
Herbert Cannon
> On 2009-07-06 08:48:31 -0400, "Herbert Cannon" <hcanno...@cox.net> said:
>
>
>
> > "Shava_X" <voodopeo...@rocketNOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:vCd4m.3487$vO4...@flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com...
>
> >> If She was not up to serving a full term, She should have never run for
> >> the office.
>
> > That is a personal decision. No one gets to make that for you.
>
> Thats right, Popgun, you made the decison to be a hate-filled douchebag.
>
> --
> "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and
> carrying the cross." - Sinclair Lewis
I am impressed Slimy. You really like to stalk me dont you. You really
are a sad sack of shit.
Herbert Cannon
> On 2009-07-06 12:42:41 -0400, "Herbert Cannon" <hcanno...@cox.net> said:
>
>
>
> > she did abandon the state, but she sez its to help the state, she did
> > in no way break any oath im aware of.
>
> > Perhaps that is because there is no oath. Just one her enemies wish existed.
>
> Riiiiiight....there is no "Oath of Office" for Governors.
>
> --
> "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and
> carrying the cross." - Sinclair Lewis
Would you care to quote the one for us that says a governor cannot
resign, Dipshit.
suds mcduff
>>>> ---Let's just say informed speculation.....
>>> HAHAHAHAHAHHA more like bullshit, cow dung, bufflaloe patties and horse
>>> manure. Yea you are plugged in to the top of Alaska's politics. HAHAHAHA
>> ----Wow, you're really sure of yourself there, Dim....how bout if an
>> indictment comes down, you eschew RMA for a month?
>
> How about the FBI just announcing she is not under any investigation. My my
> all you speculators are just that bullshit throwers.
----how bout if an indictment comes down, you eschew RMA for a month?
>
>>>> She sure does scare you.
>>>>
>>>> ---Nah...the idiots that worship her scare me...I had no idea that the
>>>> midland was filled with such uninformed dopes...
>>> You much prefer the morons that watch and worship " The View" as their
>>> guiding light.
>> ----And, you prefer morons who worship a woman that can't remember what
>> books, she's read, if at all....
>
> Coming from a guy who reads only propaganda that is funny.
----Suuuure, Dim...my reading list is miles wider than yours will ever
be....
Just keep
> watching the " View" I am sure they must be really yapping about her. Just
> like you are.
----I work for a living Dim, I can't loll around the house all day
watching women's TV like you....no wonder you're such a pussy...
>>>> You just cannot quit talking about her.
>>>>
>>>> ---She manages to keep herself in the limelight...
>>> Really she tells all those press pundits to cover her does she? My my
>>> what power.
>> ----She has a full blown case of the Repub media paranoia...she constantly
>> seeks the media limelight....then cries foul when she stumbles...typical
>> Repub....
>
> More like the media seeks her.
----BWAHAHAHA....she hasn't seen the camera she won't jump in front of,
and hold her kids up as props for...'
Face it, Dump, she should have been no more
> than a blip on the 6 Oclock news. What fascinates you about her? You just
> cannot stop yapping about her. Look at you yap yap yap yap.
---She's obviosly a hero of yours, Dim....I'm not suprised....all a
Repub has to do is hold up ma gun and you're a slavering follower....
>>> then weeps about press
>>>> coverage...the gold standard repub hypocrisy....
>>> Yeah I have seen inumerable pictures on the news showing her crying her
>>> eyes out.
>>
>> ----Once again, a Repub tool who is literal when he wants to be...
>
> Yeah I told the media to do all that talking. Once again the Democrap tool
> that is doing all the yapping and claims he is not. Yap yap yap yap.
----Jupmp through the hoop again, Dim....you'tre not getting the last
word...
>>>>> Even goof ball Letterman.
>>>> ----Who could buy and sell you 100 times over...
>>> Wow you must really hate him huh?
>>
>> ----I don't hate all the rich, Dim....just miserly, money grubbing Repubs
>> like you....
>
> You make allowances for groveling rich do you.
----Money grubbing rich or poor are the bung holes of society....you
included....
> George Soros will happy to hear that along with Kennedy, Kerry, Feinstein,
> Edwards, Turner, Buffiington etc. No you just hate the rich when it suits
> you doncha you big hypocrite.
----I hate monety grubbers like you, that's for sure...
>> Oh I know he is " poor rich" and not "
>>> rich rich" so it is ok for him to be a democrap.
>>>
>>> .btw, his ratings were
>>>> huge with the Palin nonsense...Letterman wins again....
>>> I saw his abject apology and how he said he was so sorry - typical
>>> liberal hypocrisy. Maybe he was just shitting his pants cause his
>>> sponsors told him he should not wind up like that shock jock on MSNBC who
>>> got fired.
>> ----BWAHAHAHAHAH!
>
> Got your dick caught in your zipper again. Switch to buttons.
----Another deaf old turd that can't recognize the sound of derisive
laughter...Damn Dim, I knew you were blind and dumb, now deaf too?
Adjust your hearing aid, you pathetic old fuck...
>
> Letterman's an icon on network TV, you stupid dunce!
>
> Really now he is a groveling Icon, how unique.
---Ah, when Repubs like Sanford apologise, it's seen as sincere, when an
entertainer apologizes, it's groveling...typycal rightard hypocrisy...
>
>> His ratings *increased* with the bloviating of the media starved Palin...
>
> The media that just cannot stop talking about her.
----She has the media on speed dial....
Even after the election.
----And, Repubs have been dropping her like a hot potato ever since...is
that any way to treat your hero?
> Is that the media that you are talking about. WOW some starvation.
>
> BTW, that shock jocks been rehired a long time since, dumb ass....
>
> Really, well what you do expect from a bunch of hypocrites. Funny though I
> dont see him on his old program.
---He makes more on his new one...
Nothing like getting bit by your own dog.
----Tell us about it, Dim....you oughta know more than anyone else...
>>> You mean his rating went up? Gee must have been a lot of people who
>>> really wanted to see him grovel huh?
>>
>> ---Regardless....ratings skyrocketed....he probably sent Palin a thank you
>> note....
>
> Just goes to show you how many people enjoyed seeing your hero clown and
> icon grovel.
----See above: Repub apologises, entertainer grovels, Dim= hypocrite, as
usual....made Dave a slew of money, Palin a laughing stock, as usual...
>>>> Keep it up - gives her name recognition that a
>>>>> politician would envy.
>>>> ----Can't wait for the indictments to come down...more Repub dreams
>>>> swirling down the drain....
>>> Hold your breath, Mr plugged in at the top of Alaska politics.
>> ---Wow...a state with a little more than half a million people with a
>> built in source of revenue, and it was still too tough for your
>> goddess....Run, Sarah, Run...
>
> .BWAHAHAHAHA
>
> You really need to switch to buttons.
----You need to adjust your hearing aid.....
>
> Obviously she scares the shit out of you too. Yes run Sarah run. Better
> hope she doesnt run.
----Why? She's the best hope the Dems have...BWAHAHAHA
But keeping yapping about her - it certainly gives her
> a lot of publicity.
---I know....all bad, shines a light on how much dumber Repubs are than
anybody could possibly believe
See if you were smart you would shut up.
----Jump through the hoop again, Dim....I'll hold it a little lower this
time....
suds mcduff
> On Jul 6, 10:47 am, "Herbert Cannon" <hcanno...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>> ---Let's just say informed speculation.....
>>>> HAHAHAHAHAHHA more like bullshit, cow dung, bufflaloe patties and horse
>>>> manure. Yea you are plugged in to the top of Alaska's politics. HAHAHAHA
>>> ----Wow, you're really sure of yourself there, Dim....how bout if an
>>> indictment comes down, you eschew RMA for a month?
> Well, Dunce Dump, there have been 15 ethics investigations at a cost
> of 2 million to the state of Alaska and a personal cost of of several
> hundred thousand to her. Guess what they all cleared her.
I reckon she
> is tired of politics and morons like you wanting another
> investigation.
-----So, you're speculating as much as I....How bout if an
indictment comes down, you eschew RMA for a month?
> What is next - you gonna make jokes about her Down syndrome daughter?
> Face it she scares the shit out of you holier than thou hypocrites
> cause she has the common touch.
---You mean the blind rightard touch, don't ya?
That is what your elitist President
> cannot handle.
----Suuuure, Dim, BHO doesn't have the common touch...he was elected by
rich elitists.....damn you're dumb, Dim....
Slim
>
> <hal> wrote in message news:v2t355h4j3m8jp3lm...@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 07:47:07 -0500, "Herbert Cannon"
>> <hcan...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> There is no specification that a politician has to serve out a term. You
>>> believe political campaign promises? If you do you can start listing the
>>> ones that Obama has broken.
>>>
>>
>> feel free Herb. Just what promises has Obama broken? Keep in mind
>> he's been in office less than six months. So that fact that something
>> simply isn't done yet doesn't mean it's a broken promise. So go ahead
>> and list them.
>>
>
> I cannot resist inserting myself here. He said that no income, payroll,
> or any OTHER taxes would be increased for those making less that $250K
> per annum. Yet cigarette taxes were greatly increased on his watch. If
> any cigarette smokers are making less than 250K then that is a broken
> promise. Take care
BWAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA.....no one forces people to become nicotine addicts.
That was one weak strawman.
Slim
She is free to quit anytime.
She proved that she is unreliable...and that she is a quitter.
Stanley Moore
"Slim" <sl...@pickins.com> wrote in message
news:200907071402448930-slim@pickinscom...
Nevertheless it was a tax increase. And a broken promise. Strictly speaking
it was not a strawman argument either but I shall let it pass. Take care
Herbert Cannon
> On 2009-07-07 08:02:23 -0400, Herbert Cannon <hcan...@cox.net> said:
>
>> On Jul 6, 9:10 pm, Slim <s...@pickins.com> wrote:
>>> On 2009-07-06 12:42:41 -0400, "Herbert Cannon" <hcanno...@cox.net> said:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> she did abandon the state, but she sez its to help the state, she did
>>>> in no way break any oath im aware of.
>>>
>>>> Perhaps that is because there is no oath. Just one her enemies wish exi
>> sted.
>>>
>>> Riiiiiight....there is no "Oath of Office" for Governors.
>>>
>>> --
>>> "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and
>>> carrying the cross." - Sinclair Lewis
>>
>> Would you care to quote the one for us that says a governor cannot
>> resign, Dipshit.
>
> She is free to quit anytime.
Riiiight there is no "Oath of Office" for a governor.
>
> She proved that she is unreliable.
She proved she is not a " good ole boy" like you, Slimy.
..and that she is a quitter.
After 15 ethics investigations, all of which cleared her but cost her
several hundred thousands of dollars, she is fed up with morons like you,
Slimy.
Herbert Cannon
> Herbert Cannon wrote:
>> On Jul 6, 10:47 am, "Herbert Cannon" <hcanno...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>> ---Let's just say informed speculation.....
>>>>> HAHAHAHAHAHHA more like bullshit, cow dung, bufflaloe patties and
>>>>> horse
>>>>> manure. Yea you are plugged in to the top of Alaska's politics.
>>>>> HAHAHAHA
>>>> ----Wow, you're really sure of yourself there, Dim....how bout if an
>>>> indictment comes down, you eschew RMA for a month?
>> Well, Dunce Dump, there have been 15 ethics investigations at a cost
>> of 2 million to the state of Alaska and a personal cost of of several
>> hundred thousand to her. Guess what they all cleared her.
> ---Who appoints the board, Dim? Hmmmmmm?
>
> I reckon she
>> is tired of politics and morons like you wanting another
>> investigation.
>
> -----So, you're speculating as much as I....How bout if an
> indictment comes down, you eschew RMA for a month?
>
>> What is next - you gonna make jokes about her Down syndrome daughter?
>> Face it she scares the shit out of you holier than thou hypocrites
>> cause she has the common touch.
>
> ---You mean the blind rightard touch, don't ya?
Name one of your candidates that can say, they are a mother, a mother with a
down syndrome child, a mother who buys groceries for a family, a person who
understands what each family faces, who can say I am not a beltway package.
Who can say that, your elitist Obongo who says, " cling to your bibles and
guns." Face it if she didnt scare you, you would have quit yapping about
her a long time ago.
>
> That is what your elitist President
>> cannot handle.
>
> ----Suuuure, Dim, BHO doesn't have the common touch...he was elected by
> rich elitists.....damn you're dumb, Dim....
Soros, Turner, Feinstein, Kerry, Kennedy, Edwards etc etc etc yea all your
poor Democraps. How may millions did he raise and from who?
You are one stupid piece of dogma, Dump.
suds mcduff
>> feel free Herb. Just what promises has Obama broken? Keep in mind
>> he's been in office less than six months. So that fact that something
>> simply isn't done yet doesn't mean it's a broken promise. So go ahead
>> and list them.
>
> Well he promised no earmarks
----No, he promised that earmarks would be more thoroughly
scrutinized....guess again...
suds mcduff
>>> There is no specification that a politician has to serve out a term. You
>>> believe political campaign promises? If you do you can start listing the
>>> ones that Obama has broken.
>> feel free Herb. Just what promises has Obama broken? Keep in mind
>> he's been in office less than six months. So that fact that something
>> simply isn't done yet doesn't mean it's a broken promise. So go ahead
>> and list them.
>
>
> 1. He promised no earmarks, and then signed some of the most earmark
> laden bills in history.
---He promised to scrutinize earmarks more thoroughly...
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2009/mar/02/continuing-kerfuffle-over-earmarks/
"We also found lots of confusion about what exactly President Obama
promised during the campaign. Some in the media have incorrectly said
that Obama promised to eliminate earmarks"....
> 2. He promised more transparency, but his administration has gone to
> great lengths to hide information; his White House is the first in
> many years, for example, to keep secret the names of lobbyists who
> visit.
----However, he did keep this one vis-a-vis lobbyists
http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/promise/241/require-new-hires-to-sign-a-form-affirming-their-h/
> 3. Speaking of lobbyists, he promised there would be no lobbyists in
> his administation; there are several.
> 4. He promised accountability; but at least five of his appointees
> have tax problems, and he has recently been criticized by lawmakers
> (on both sides) for creating over a dozen "Czar" positions that are
> not accountable.
> 5. He promised bipartisanship, but has made zero effort to involve
> his political critics in real discussion on any policy.
---He's already showed much more bipartisanship than when Repubs ran the
govt....in fact, that's why libs are pissed at him...they want him to
just slap the Repubs across the mouth and quit trying to pussyfoot
around with them....they are determined to bring down Obama at any
cost...regaining power is their only concern....
> 6. He promised to use public financing; but then declined it at the
> last minute.
> 7. He promised fiscal responsibility; and then proceeded to spend at
> a rate that is unprecedented.
----In dealing with a crisis that is unprecedented since the '30's...
By the end of his first year he will
> have outspent Bush and doubled the national debt; by the end of his
> first term it will have doubled again. Between him and congress, we
> now have arguably the least fiscally responsible government in
> history.
----In attempting to keep the nation from fallinbg into a depression
while engaged in two wars of Bush's making...
> There are certainly more; those are just the most obvious.
---And, he's kept thirty in 6 months or so:
http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/rulings/promise-kept/
hal
<sudsmcd...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> There are certainly more; those are just the most obvious.
>
>---And, he's kept thirty in 6 months or so:
>http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/rulings/promise-kept/
>
please don't confuse our winger friends with bothersome stuff like
facts. They have such a rich fantasy life, don't ruin it for them.
Herbert Cannon
> TravIsGod wrote:
>>> feel free Herb. Just what promises has Obama broken? Keep in mind
>>> he's been in office less than six months. So that fact that something
>>> simply isn't done yet doesn't mean it's a broken promise. So go ahead
>>> and list them.
>>
>> Well he promised no earmarks
>
> ----No, he promised that earmarks would be more thoroughly
> scrutinized....guess again...
Oh, wow, how impressive, a bill no one read ( including Obama), a bill that
had to be passed right away, a bill that Obama signed - now that is what I
really call scrutinazation of earmarks. Go split hairs somewhere else.
Herbert Cannon
> Herbert Cannon wrote:
>>>>> ---Let's just say informed speculation.....
>>>> HAHAHAHAHAHHA more like bullshit, cow dung, bufflaloe patties and horse
>>>> manure. Yea you are plugged in to the top of Alaska's politics.
>>>> HAHAHAHA
>>> ----Wow, you're really sure of yourself there, Dim....how bout if an
>>> indictment comes down, you eschew RMA for a month?
>>
>> How about the FBI just announcing she is not under any investigation. My
>> my all you speculators are just that bullshit throwers.
>
> ----how bout if an indictment comes down, you eschew RMA for a month?
>
>>>>> She sure does scare you.
>>>>>
>>>>> ---Nah...the idiots that worship her scare me...I had no idea that the
>>>>> midland was filled with such uninformed dopes...
>>>> You much prefer the morons that watch and worship " The View" as their
>>>> guiding light.
>>> ----And, you prefer morons who worship a woman that can't remember what
>>> books, she's read, if at all....
>>
>> Coming from a guy who reads only propaganda that is funny.
>
>
> ----Suuuure, Dim...my reading list is miles wider than yours will ever
> be....
>
A mile wide and a inch deep, Dog Dump.
> Just keep
>> watching the " View" I am sure they must be really yapping about her.
>> Just like you are.
>
> ----I work for a living Dim, I can't loll around the house all day
> watching women's TV like you....no wonder you're such a pussy...
It is your program, Dunce not mine.
>>>>> You just cannot quit talking about her.
>>>>>
>>>>> ---She manages to keep herself in the limelight...
>>>> Really she tells all those press pundits to cover her does she? My my
>>>> what power.
>>> ----She has a full blown case of the Repub media paranoia...she
>>> constantly seeks the media limelight....then cries foul when she
>>> stumbles...typical Repub....
>>
>> More like the media seeks her.
>
>
> ----BWAHAHAHA....she hasn't seen the camera she won't jump in front of,
> and hold her kids up as props for...'
Who is running around holding those cameras, Dump? You mean all those
cameramen and MSNBC and CNN, CBS, NBC etc are all Repubs. My heavens Dump
the Repubs have taken over the networks while you were not looking.
Nice try Dump. Ole Wolf and the rest just cannot stop yapping just like you.
> Face it, Dump, she should have been no more
>> than a blip on the 6 Oclock news. What fascinates you about her? You just
>> cannot stop yapping about her. Look at you yap yap yap yap.
>
> ---She's obviosly a hero of yours, Dim....I'm not suprised....all a Repub
> has to do is hold up ma gun and you're a slavering follower....
I like the lady cause you hate her doncha. You just cannot stop hating her.
She gets under your skin. It is amusing to watch you continually yap yap
yap. Like a dog barking his head off at traffic. You just cannot stop yap
yap yap yap.
>>>> then weeps about press
>>>>> coverage...the gold standard repub hypocrisy....
>>>> Yeah I have seen inumerable pictures on the news showing her crying her
>>>> eyes out.
>>>
>>> ----Once again, a Repub tool who is literal when he wants to be...
>>
>> Yeah I told the media to do all that talking. Once again the Democrap
>> tool that is doing all the yapping and claims he is not. Yap yap yap yap.
>
> ----Jupmp through the hoop again, Dim....you'tre not getting the last
> word...
Oh I intend to let you get the last bark Dog Dump.
>
>>>>>> Even goof ball Letterman.
>>>>> ----Who could buy and sell you 100 times over...
>>>> Wow you must really hate him huh?
>>>
>>> ----I don't hate all the rich, Dim....just miserly, money grubbing
>>> Repubs like you....
>>
>> You make allowances for groveling rich do you.
>
> ----Money grubbing rich or poor are the bung holes of society....you
> included....
>
>> George Soros will happy to hear that along with Kennedy, Kerry,
>> Feinstein, Edwards, Turner, Buffiington etc. No you just hate the rich
>> when it suits you doncha you big hypocrite.
>
> ----I hate monety grubbers like you, that's for sure...
Oh that is right Kennedy inherited his. He did not have to work for it so
that makes him a good democrat. Kerry married his so that makes him an even
better democrap. Feinstien married hers so she throw a few lucrative defense
contracts to her husband's firm that makes her an even better democrap. Now
Soros is another matter. He ought to be your real hero. Now there is a real
grubber. But he is much like Murtha no scruples at all. He ought to fit your
double standard quite well.
>
>>> Oh I know he is " poor rich" and not "
>>>> rich rich" so it is ok for him to be a democrap.
>>>>
>>>> .btw, his ratings were
>>>>> huge with the Palin nonsense...Letterman wins again....
>>>> I saw his abject apology and how he said he was so sorry - typical
>>>> liberal hypocrisy. Maybe he was just shitting his pants cause his
>>>> sponsors told him he should not wind up like that shock jock on MSNBC
>>>> who got fired.
>>> ----BWAHAHAHAHAH!
>>
>> Got your dick caught in your zipper again. Switch to buttons.
>
> ----Another deaf old turd that can't recognize the sound of derisive
> laughter...Damn Dim, I knew you were blind and dumb, now deaf too? Adjust
> your hearing aid, you pathetic old fuck...
Derisive laughter? Sounds more like a dump hyena with his dick caught in
his zipper to me. Of course I sometimes mistake a mule braying for that same
sound.
>
>>
>> Letterman's an icon on network TV, you stupid dunce!
>>
>> Really now he is a groveling Icon, how unique.
>
> ---Ah, when Repubs like Sanford apologise, it's seen as sincere, when an
> entertainer apologizes, it's groveling...typycal rightard hypocrisy...
Sanford's history. Your icon ought to be.
>>
>>> His ratings *increased* with the bloviating of the media starved
>>> Palin...
>>
>> The media that just cannot stop talking about her.
>
> ----She has the media on speed dial....
>
> Even after the election.
>
> ----And, Repubs have been dropping her like a hot potato ever since...is
> that any way to treat your hero?
That cause they are afraid of her just like you.
>
>
>> Is that the media that you are talking about. WOW some starvation.
>>
>> BTW, that shock jocks been rehired a long time since, dumb ass....
>>
>> Really, well what you do expect from a bunch of hypocrites. Funny though
>> I dont see him on his old program.
>
> ---He makes more on his new one...
You an avid watcher. Figures.
> Nothing like getting bit by your own dog.
>
> ----Tell us about it, Dim....you oughta know more than anyone else...
>
>>>> You mean his rating went up? Gee must have been a lot of people who
>>>> really wanted to see him grovel huh?
>>>
>>> ---Regardless....ratings skyrocketed....he probably sent Palin a thank
>>> you note....
>>
>> Just goes to show you how many people enjoyed seeing your hero clown and
>> icon grovel.
>
> ----See above: Repub apologises, entertainer grovels, Dim= hypocrite, as
> usual....made Dave a slew of money,
What a way to money grub. Fits right in with your double standard though
doesnt it. You could get him to tell another joke about Palin's Down
Syndrome daughter. Just think of all the money you could grub off of that.
Then your loathsome hero Icon could really grovel and get his ratings up.
Just think you would really worship him then. He would be as big as clown as
you are.
>
>>>>> Keep it up - gives her name recognition that a
>>>>>> politician would envy.
>>>>> ----Can't wait for the indictments to come down...more Repub dreams
>>>>> swirling down the drain....
>>>> Hold your breath, Mr plugged in at the top of Alaska politics.
>>> ---Wow...a state with a little more than half a million people with a
>>> built in source of revenue, and it was still too tough for your
>>> goddess....Run, Sarah, Run...
>>
>> .BWAHAHAHAHA
>>
>> You really need to switch to buttons.
>
> ----You need to adjust your hearing aid.....
Why I can hear your braying like as a mule quite well.
>>
>> Obviously she scares the shit out of you too. Yes run Sarah run. Better
>> hope she doesnt run.
>
>
> ----Why? She's the best hope the Dems have...BWAHAHAHA
>
> But keeping yapping about her - it certainly gives her
>> a lot of publicity.
>
> ---I know....all bad, shines a light on how much dumber Repubs are than
> anybody could possibly believe
Keep yapping Yap yap yap yap. Publicity is easy you are too stupid to shut
up.
>
> See if you were smart you would shut up.
>
> ----Jump through the hoop again, Dim....I'll hold it a little lower this
> time....
Yap yap yap yap.
>