Another Example of Public Schools and their brilliance
Herbert Cannon
equate to zero intelligence. Note they were going to send this student to an
alternative school for a year.
What stupidity.
http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/80156512.html
Foe
Wait, did this happen in the UK...waitaminute.........oh.
trav...@aol.com
Total horseshit. Look at how his mom is siding with the insanity.
My son was suspended for bringing a piece of bark to school that could
have been imagined to have been a knife. It had no edge, no handle,
only that it was in a similar shape to a cutting implement like a
substantial percentage of the wood laying on the ground and he called
it a "knife," because kids play pretend and have imaginations.
They suspended him. During my discussions with the school
administrators, I got the same zero tolerance policy bullshit, but
interestingly enough, nobody would make a substantive defense of the
policy. They all agreed essentially in not so many words that it was
absurd. Yet they all fell back on the Nuremberg Defense.
The system has gone haywire, utterly haywire. Like "Brazil."
Trav
hal
<trav...@aol.com> wrote:
>On Dec 27, 9:28=A0am, "Herbert Cannon" <hcanno...@cox.net> wrote:
>> I know most of you have talked about zero tolerance policies. They seem t=
>o
>> equate to zero intelligence. Note they were going to send this student to=
> an
>> alternative school for a year.
>> What stupidity.http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/80156512.html
>
>Total horseshit. Look at how his mom is siding with the insanity.
>
>My son was suspended for bringing a piece of bark to school that could
>have been imagined to have been a knife. It had no edge, no handle,
>only that it was in a similar shape to a cutting implement like a
>substantial percentage of the wood laying on the ground and he called
>it a "knife," because kids play pretend and have imaginations.
>
>They suspended him. During my discussions with the school
>administrators, I got the same zero tolerance policy bullshit, but
>interestingly enough, nobody would make a substantive defense of the
>policy. They all agreed essentially in not so many words that it was
>absurd. Yet they all fell back on the Nuremberg Defense.
>
>The system has gone haywire, utterly haywire. Like "Brazil."
shit, I loved that movie.
>
>Trav
suds mcduff
---And, if a kid with a four inch folder killed another over a girl
(which happened here recently) the victims relatives would sue the
school board for incompetence...
Why did the school search his car?
suds mcduff
> On Dec 27, 9:28 am, "Herbert Cannon" <hcanno...@cox.net> wrote:
>> I know most of you have talked about zero tolerance policies. They seem to
>> equate to zero intelligence. Note they were going to send this student to an
>> alternative school for a year.
>> What stupidity.http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/80156512.html
>
> Total horseshit. Look at how his mom is siding with the insanity.
>
> My son was suspended for bringing a piece of bark to school that could
> have been imagined to have been a knife. It had no edge, no handle,
> only that it was in a similar shape to a cutting implement like a
> substantial percentage of the wood laying on the ground and he called
> it a "knife," because kids play pretend and have imaginations.
----How many kids, faculty and/or staff did he pretend to stab?
suds mcduff
---A rich guy like you's kids go to public school? Isn't that considered
child abuse amongst the well fed?
trav...@aol.com
trav...@aol.com
And if they went to private school, you'd blast me for that
Fuck you
Trav
suds mcduff
----So, he was pretending to cut his meatloaf with a piece of bark?
suds mcduff
----Nope....not as long as you're willing pay taxes so the "hoi polloi"
can be educated as well....I'm thinking you're not as well fed as you
let on....
> Fuck you
----And, you as well....
Herbert Cannon
"suds mcduff" <sudsmcd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:hhfvpi$2n9$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
You discipline kids for pretending? No cowboys and Indians at your school.
What a fuck up you are.
Herbert Cannon
He was pretending that you had enough sense to know the difference between a
real knife and a piece of bark.
Herbert Cannon
> Herbert Cannon wrote:
>> I know most of you have talked about zero tolerance policies. They seem
>> to equate to zero intelligence. Note they were going to send this student
>> to an alternative school for a year.
>> What stupidity.
>> http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/80156512.html
>
> ---And, if a kid
if
with a four inch folder killed another over a girl
> (which happened here recently)
Which somehow made the school responsible? Try the parents if any can be
found. Horseshit
the victims relatives
relatives? His aunt and uncle?
would sue the
> school board for incompetence...
And did they sue the school board there or did was the answer from the
school board, " We are not responsible because we had a policy that forbade
the bringing and owning of a knife of a knife with a four inch blade to our
shcool; therefore this crime could not happen here." Yaya ya you cannot sue
us. If one of your students runs over another with a car will you ban cars
too. You might be sued. See we took steps to prevent it by having a
policy. What utter bullshit you have sold to yourselves and society at
large.
You are teaching kids that the policy will protect them no doubt. Wake up.
Put the adults back in charge of the school system or suffer more such
murders until your shool looks like "Lord of the Flies."
> Why did the school search his car?
Read the article. They were looking for cigarettes.
trav...@aol.com
>
> - Show quoted text -
No, he showed it to another kid and I guess a teacher saw it.
Trav
suds mcduff
pretend knife? It's ok with you when he moves on to the real thing?
suds mcduff
----Maybe it's acting out, Dim....do you know the difference?
No cowboys and Indians at your school.
----No, Dim, we didn't play cowboys and indians at my school...we played
kickball, basketball, tag, dodgeball, ect....we played "army" at home,
when we weren't playing baseball and football....nobody I knew played
lame ass cowboys and indians....
> What a fuck up you are.
----What a douchebag you are....
suds mcduff
> "suds mcduff" <sudsmcd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hhfvd7$vgi$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Herbert Cannon wrote:
>>> I know most of you have talked about zero tolerance policies. They seem
>>> to equate to zero intelligence. Note they were going to send this student
>>> to an alternative school for a year.
>>> What stupidity.
>>> http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/80156512.html
>> ---And, if a kid
>
> if
>
> with a four inch folder killed another over a girl
>> (which happened here recently)
>
> Which somehow made the school responsible? Try the parents if any can be
> found. Horseshit
money to defend itself....figure it out for yourself, Dim...
>
> the victims relatives
>
> relatives? His aunt and uncle?
----His mother, Dim...
>
> would sue the
>> school board for incompetence...
>
> And did they sue the school board there or did was the answer from the
> school board, " We are not responsible because we had a policy that forbade
> the bringing and owning of a knife of a knife with a four inch blade to our
> shcool; therefore this crime could not happen here." Yaya ya you cannot sue
> us.
-----They will have to use funding to defend themselves, Dim....surely
you can figure this one out...
If one of your students runs over another with a car will you ban cars
> too.
----Kinda hard to fit a car in the hallways, Dim...
You might be sued.
-----Costs money to go to court, Dim. Is it different in your world?
See we took steps to prevent it by having a
> policy. What utter bullshit you have sold to yourselves and society at
> large.
----And, Dim, a student with a four inch folder did indeed kill another
over a girl....none of your posing and obfuscation can get around that...
> You are teaching kids that the policy will protect them no doubt. Wake up.
> Put the adults back in charge of the school system or suffer more such
> murders until your shool looks like "Lord of the Flies."
----And ypu'll avoid that by letting them carry four inch folders?
Suuuuure, Dim, suuuuure.....
>
>> Why did the school search his car?
>
> Read the article. They were looking for cigarettes.
----Oh, ok, I though it was only a one page....well, well, it seems that
knives *are* permitted, just not four inch blades....kinda takes the air
out of your outrage, eh, Dim?
"In Shreveport, he said, many students hunted on weekends, but would
forget to leave their guns at home. At first, Dilworth said, he would
call parents to come immediately to pick up their son�s hunting guns.
Soon, though, students were bringing guns to school with impunity,
Dilworth said. One day, a fight broke out and someone took a gun from
another student�s car. While the gun wasn�t used, the incident changed
Dilworth�s perspective on the matter."
----According to the Dimbulb, they should be able to bring the guns to
class.....
�It�s almost more dangerous for it to be in the vehicle than it is in
the school,� Dilworth said."
----Dimbulb would have thought that Harris and Klebold were just boys
with a healthy imagination....let 'em keep their guns!
trav...@aol.com
> over a girl....none of your posing and obfuscation can get around that...
I carried a knife to high school nearly every single day for 4 years.
It was incredibly useful to have and my fellow students routinely
asked to borrow it. A lot of us had pocket knives. Most of my
friends also had firearms.
You libtards really are just absolute fucking IDIOTS.
> ----And ypu'll avoid that by letting them carry four inch folders?
> Suuuuure, Dim, suuuuure.....
Why the fuck not? Where is the risk?
> "In Shreveport, he said, many students hunted on weekends, but would
> forget to leave their guns at home. At first, Dilworth said, he would
> call parents to come immediately to pick up their son s hunting guns.
>
> Soon, though, students were bringing guns to school with impunity,
> Dilworth said. One day, a fight broke out and someone took a gun from
> another student s car. While the gun wasn t used, the incident changed
> Dilworth s perspective on the matter."
WHY? The gun WAS NOT USED!
> ----According to the Dimbulb, they should be able to bring the guns to
> class.....
>
> It s almost more dangerous for it to be in the vehicle than it is in
> the school, Dilworth said."
No, what is more dangerous is for people like you and Dilworth to try
to think. You aren't qualified to do it. All you can do is produce
fuckups.
> ----Dimbulb would have thought that Harris and Klebold were just boys
> with a healthy imagination....let 'em keep their guns!
Most of my friends had superior firepower to these kids.
Trav
YumYumPandaburger
>
> - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
I've been told he also named the boy "Sue"
Herbert Cannon
What if he is not? What if he is playing cowboys and indians and saying bang
bang with his finger pointing at other students, and they are doing the
same, and they are all falling down while playing dead?
It's ok with you when he moves on to the real thing?
Do you really think a child's playing and fantasy is going to lead to the
real thing? If that were case how can you explain that school shootings are
still extremely rare and cowboys and indians have been played by kids since
the beginning of time. What is not ok with me is your soccer mom mentality,
amateurish psychology, and psychobabble stupidity.
Herbert Cannon
>>> ----How many kids, faculty and/or staff did he pretend to stab?
>>
>> You discipline kids for pretending?
>
> ----Maybe it's acting out, Dim....do you know the difference?
You obviously dont.
>
> No cowboys and Indians at your school.
>
> ----No, Dim, we didn't play cowboys and indians at my school...we played
> kickball, basketball, tag, dodgeball, ect....we played "army" at home,
> when we weren't playing baseball and football....nobody I knew played lame
> ass cowboys and indians....
Army? You played army? Oh my God call the psychologist, call the school
counselor, call the social worker, call the psychiatrist. Call the coroner
we need to committ a violent kid like you.
>
>> What a fuck up you are.
>
> ----What a douchebag you are....
Face it all that braying makes you an ass.
Herbert Cannon
actions. Does not work, Dumpass.
trav...@aol.com
> can be educated as well....I'm thinking you're not as well fed as you
> let on....
LOL...you don't know which county I'm in. For the money it cost me to
maintain residency in this county last year, I could have sent one of
them to Sidwell Friends.
Trav
Jerry B. Altzman
>> ----And, Dim, a student with a four inch folder did indeed kill another
>> over a girl....none of your posing and obfuscation can get around that...
> I carried a knife to high school nearly every single day for 4 years.
> It was incredibly useful to have and my fellow students routinely
> asked to borrow it. A lot of us had pocket knives. Most of my
> friends also had firearms.
Not only did I carry a pocket SAK to school almost every day, I'd
routinely take it out in class and play with it, use the scissors or
knife blade (!) to cut paper, repair my clarinet with it, clean out my
fingernails with the screwdriver tips...about the only complaints I ever
got were to quit playing with it and pay attention please.
Most of the stage crew geeks carried them...it was incredibly common.
We used to joke about how it didn't even count as a weapon, if you tried
to hurt someone with it you'd be more likely to cut off your own fingers.
Nowadays I think they use nerf-scissors to cut paper in class.
The world has gone totally crazy about these things now. We're not safer
now because my teenage son can't carry a pocket knife or a leatherman
tool...
> Trav
//jbaltz
--
jerry b. altzman jba...@altzman.com www.jbaltz.com
thank you for contributing to the heat death of the universe.
trav...@aol.com
> on 1/4/2010 10:33 AM travis...@aol.cominyrface said the following:
>
> >> ----And, Dim, a student with a four inch folder did indeed kill another
> >> over a girl....none of your posing and obfuscation can get around that...
> > I carried a knife to high school nearly every single day for 4 years.
> > It was incredibly useful to have and my fellow students routinely
> > asked to borrow it. A lot of us had pocket knives. Most of my
> > friends also had firearms.
>
> Not only did I carry a pocket SAK to school almost every day, I'd
> routinely take it out in class and play with it, use the scissors or
> knife blade (!) to cut paper, repair my clarinet with it, clean out my
> fingernails with the screwdriver tips...about the only complaints I ever
> got were to quit playing with it and pay attention please.
>
> Most of the stage crew geeks carried them...it was incredibly common.
>
> We used to joke about how it didn't even count as a weapon, if you tried
> to hurt someone with it you'd be more likely to cut off your own fingers.
>
> Nowadays I think they use nerf-scissors to cut paper in class.
>
> The world has gone totally crazy about these things now. We're not safer
> now because my teenage son can't carry a pocket knife or a leatherman
> tool...
There is no place for logic or evidence in today's society.
Trav
YumYumPandaburger
> on 1/4/2010 10:33 AM travis...@aol.cominyrface said the following:
>
> >> ----And, Dim, a student with a four inch folder did indeed kill another
> >> over a girl....none of your posing and obfuscation can get around that...
> > I carried a knife to high school nearly every single day for 4 years.
> > It was incredibly useful to have and my fellow students routinely
> > asked to borrow it. A lot of us had pocket knives. Most of my
> > friends also had firearms.
>
> Not only did I carry a pocket SAK to school almost every day, I'd
> routinely take it out in class and play with it, use the scissors or
> knife blade (!) to cut paper, repair my clarinet with it, clean out my
> fingernails with the screwdriver tips...about the only complaints I ever
> got were to quit playing with it and pay attention please.
Some kid tried to stab me with one of these swiss knifes when I was
14.
Greendistantstar
> Not only did I carry a pocket SAK to school almost every day, I'd
> routinely take it out in class and play with it, use the scissors or
> knife blade (!) to cut paper, repair my clarinet with it,
You play clarinet? No wonder you carried a knife....;>)
GDS
"Let's roll!"
Jerry B. Altzman
> On 4 jan, 20:04, "Jerry B. Altzman"<jba...@altzman.com> wrote:
>> on 1/4/2010 10:33 AM travis...@aol.cominyrface said the following:
>>>> ----And, Dim, a student with a four inch folder did indeed kill another
>>>> over a girl....none of your posing and obfuscation can get around that...
>>> I carried a knife to high school nearly every single day for 4 years.
>>> It was incredibly useful to have and my fellow students routinely
>>> asked to borrow it. A lot of us had pocket knives. Most of my
>>> friends also had firearms.
>> Not only did I carry a pocket SAK to school almost every day, I'd
>> routinely take it out in class and play with it, use the scissors or
>> knife blade (!) to cut paper, repair my clarinet with it, clean out my
>> fingernails with the screwdriver tips...about the only complaints I ever
>> got were to quit playing with it and pay attention please.
> Some kid tried to stab me with one of these swiss knifes when I was
> 14.
And look where he is now. Probably called "Lefty".
//jbaltz
--
jerry b. altzman jba...@altzman.com www.jbaltz.com
"my mother hung me on a hook once. ONCE."
Jerry B. Altzman
Contra-bass clarinet. 6' tall, weighed over 30 lbs.
(In the marching band, regular clarinet.)
I was on the stage crew, too. *And* the math team. *And* the sci-fi club.
Yes, I was a bona-fide nerd.
> GDS
//jbaltz
--
jerry b. altzman jba...@altzman.com www.jbaltz.com
"Why did he use the past tense of 'to be' in that sentence?"
Dan Winsor
> on 1/5/2010 8:13 AM Greendistantstar said the following:
>
> > Jerry B. Altzman wrote:
> >> Not only did I carry a pocket SAK to school almost every day, I'd
> >> routinely take it out in class and play with it, use the scissors or
> >> knife blade (!) to cut paper, repair my clarinet with it,
> > You play clarinet? No wonder you carried a knife....;>)
Yeah, think of all the places he had to pry it out of...
> Contra-bass clarinet. 6' tall, weighed over 30 lbs.
Geez, even worse to have to pry something that big out...
> (In the marching band, regular clarinet.)
>
> I was on the stage crew, too. *And* the math team. *And* the sci-fi club.
>
> Yes, I was a bona-fide nerd.
Ahem, "was?"
--
Dan Winsor
Soy un poco loco en el coco.
Greendistantstar
You play the Kazoo, don't ya, Dan?
GDS
"Let's roll!"
Dan Winsor
wrote:
Easier to remove from orafices.
YumYumPandaburger
No idea where he is. At least on this occasion he wasn't the one who
got to visit some Swiss hospital with an old, most likely blind MD who
insisted on stitching without any anesthetics so that he could make
sure that all nerves and tendons were still properly attached.
YumYumPandaburger
> on 1/5/2010 8:13 AM Greendistantstar said the following:
>
> > Jerry B. Altzman wrote:
> >> Not only did I carry a pocket SAK to school almost every day, I'd
> >> routinely take it out in class and play with it, use the scissors or
> >> knife blade (!) to cut paper, repair my clarinet with it,
> > You play clarinet? No wonder you carried a knife....;>)
>
> Contra-bass clarinet. 6' tall, weighed over 30 lbs.
>
> (In the marching band, regular clarinet.)
>
> I was on the stage crew, too. *And* the math team. *And* the sci-fi club.
>
> Yes, I was a bona-fide nerd.
This one time, in band camp, I stuck my contra-bass clarinet ...
Dan Winsor
wrote:
>
> No idea where he is. At least on this occasion he wasn't the one who
> got to visit some Swiss hospital with an old, most likely blind MD who
> insisted on stitching without any anesthetics so that he could make
> sure that all nerves and tendons were still properly attached.
Pfft...at least you got a doctor. Back in my day, we couldn't afford
a "doctor." Those times when *I* was stabbed, I had to sew myself
back together with a rusty needle and bailing wire...
Greendistantstar
Luxury! We used to *dream* of using rusty needles and bailing wire when *we* were stabbed.
We 'ad to go down to mortuary, take pennies from dead mens's eyes, beat the copper into thin shards,
then stitch the wounds together with their dried intestines... IF WE WERE LUCKY!!
GDS
"Let's roll!"
YumYumPandaburger
Doctor only in the broadest sense of the word, imo. At least you guys
had needles. When I was a kid we had to make do with small, enraged
hamsters that would keep the would closed with their teeth.
Dan Winsor
wrote:
>
> We 'ad to go down to mortuary, take pennies from dead mens's eyes,
OK, for the record, I had to read that twice, especially knowing who
the author was...
Greendistantstar
You mean those rats you guys eat?
Wow, dual-function rodents...you Benelux guys sure are smart!
GDS
"Let's roll!"
YumYumPandaburger
wrote:
Smart enough not to get caught by the bobbies, chained up and shipped
to a desert island infested by poisonous animals.
Greendistantstar
True, but it helps keep out the riff-raff...
GDS
"Let's roll!"
YumYumPandaburger
trav...@aol.com
Greendistantstar
Actually, I was going to reply "Better than sailing to a foreign land, chaining 'em up and shipping
them home, only to have them over-run and fuck the place up." but thought better of it...political
correctness 'n' all...
GDS
"Let's roll!"
Jerry B. Altzman
And you know what he used to make incisions! I bet that MD carried an
SAK just for the occasion.
//jbaltz
--
jerry b. altzman jba...@altzman.com www.jbaltz.com
Jerry B. Altzman
> On 5 jan, 14:44, "Jerry B. Altzman"<jba...@altzman.com> wrote:
>> Contra-bass clarinet. 6' tall, weighed over 30 lbs.
In Wannabe's mum.
Sideways.
//jbaltz
--
jerry b. altzman jba...@altzman.com www.jbaltz.com
trav...@aol.com
> them home, only to have them over-run and fuck the place up." but thought better of it...political
> correctness 'n' all...
>
> GDS
You're right...was hugely short-sighted, wasn't it?
Trav
YumYumPandaburger
wrote:
I do not care what those nutjob protestants that we chased to the New
Word did.
Greendistantstar
It was. I've come to this view with great reluctance, but the metrics don't lie, do they?
GDS
"Let's roll!"
trav...@aol.com
wrote:
They don't, no matter how much you'd like them to
Trav
suds mcduff
>> ----And, Dim, a student with a four inch folder did indeed kill another
>> over a girl....none of your posing and obfuscation can get around that...
>
> I carried a knife to high school nearly every single day for 4 years.
----So what? Not all schools are stocked with apple cheeked cherubs 10
to a class...
> It was incredibly useful to have and my fellow students routinely
> asked to borrow it.
----And, had one of them cut theirselves with it these days, the
students parents would immediately file a lawsuit and the media would
raise a hue and cry about how our schools aren't safe....
A lot of us had pocket knives.
----If you'll re read the article, pocket knives with 2" blades *are*
allowed....
Most of my
> friends also had firearms.
-----I've *always* had firearms of one sort or another....I wasn't
foolish enough to bring them to school....
>
> You libtards really are just absolute fucking IDIOTS.
----You rightards are even worse....
>
>> ----And ypu'll avoid that by letting them carry four inch folders?
>> Suuuuure, Dim, suuuuure.....
>
> Why the fuck not? Where is the risk?
----The risk is that you'll have no way to remove the truly dangerous
JD's, dope...that is, until they stab someone with their 6" switchblade....
>
>> "In Shreveport, he said, many students hunted on weekends, but would
>> forget to leave their guns at home. At first, Dilworth said, he would
>> call parents to come immediately to pick up their son s hunting guns.
>>
>> Soon, though, students were bringing guns to school with impunity,
>> Dilworth said. One day, a fight broke out and someone took a gun from
>> another student s car. While the gun wasn t used, the incident changed
>> Dilworth s perspective on the matter."
>
> WHY? The gun WAS NOT USED!
----A gun can and will be used.....although spree killings tend to be
practiced by middle aged white men....
>
>> ----According to the Dimbulb, they should be able to bring the guns to
>> class.....
>>
>> It s almost more dangerous for it to be in the vehicle than it is in
>> the school, Dilworth said."
>
> No, what is more dangerous is for people like you and Dilworth to try
> to think. You aren't qualified to do it. All you can do is produce
> fuckups.
----You are truly a fuck up if you think kids should be allowed to be
armed at school...
>
>> ----Dimbulb would have thought that Harris and Klebold were just boys
>> with a healthy imagination....let 'em keep their guns!
>
> Most of my friends had superior firepower to these kids.
----Suuuuure they did, and they displayed them in class as well, I'll
bet....
suds mcduff
> on 1/4/2010 10:33 AM trav...@aol.cominyrface said the following:
>>> ----And, Dim, a student with a four inch folder did indeed kill another
>>> over a girl....none of your posing and obfuscation can get around
>>> that...
>> I carried a knife to high school nearly every single day for 4 years.
>> friends also had firearms.
>
> routinely take it out in class and play with it, use the scissors or
> fingernails with the screwdriver tips...about the only complaints I ever
> got were to quit playing with it and pay attention please.
>
>
> We used to joke about how it didn't even count as a weapon, if you tried
> to hurt someone with it you'd be more likely to cut off your own fingers.
>
> Nowadays I think they use nerf-scissors to cut paper in class.
>
> The world has gone totally crazy about these things now. We're not safer
> now because my teenage son can't carry a pocket knife or a leatherman
> tool...
>
---The original article states that pocket knives are allowed, with a 2"
max blade....
suds mcduff
> On Jan 4, 2:04 pm, "Jerry B. Altzman" <jba...@altzman.com> wrote:
>> on 1/4/2010 10:33 AM travis...@aol.cominyrface said the following:
>
> Trav
---There is no logic for allowing kids to bring guns, knives and bombs
to school....
suds mcduff
> Simply put you are trying to blame an inaminate object for someone's
> actions. Does not work, Dumpass.
>
>
----Wrong again, Dimmie...I'm not surprised you can't grasp the concept...
Jerry B. Altzman
> trav...@aol.cominyrface wrote:
>> On Jan 4, 2:04 pm, "Jerry B. Altzman" <jba...@altzman.com> wrote:
>>> Not only did I carry a pocket SAK to school almost every day, I'd
>>> routinely take it out in class and play with it, use the scissors or
>>> knife blade (!) to cut paper, repair my clarinet with it, clean out my
>>> fingernails with the screwdriver tips...about the only complaints I ever
>>> got were to quit playing with it and pay attention please.
> to school....
You are an idiot. I already provided the logic for bringing a knife to
school. *I* used one for everyday use. My friends did as well.
Guns? There are no target shooting clubs any more?
Bombs? OK yeah, I think it'd be hard to justify bombs.
suds mcduff
> "suds mcduff" <sudsmcd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hhqe52$krh$4...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Herbert Cannon wrote:
>>> "suds mcduff" <sudsmcd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:hhiniu$s5j$2...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> trav...@aol.cominyrface wrote:
>>>>> On Dec 30, 11:40 am, suds mcduff <sudsmcduff19...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> travis...@aol.cominyrface wrote:
>>>>>>> On Dec 27, 9:28 am, "Herbert Cannon" <hcanno...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I know most of you have talked about zero tolerance policies. They
>>>>>>>> seem to
>>>>>>>> equate to zero intelligence. Note they were going to send this
>>>>>>>> student to an
>>>>>>>> alternative school for a year.
>>>>>>>> What stupidity.http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/80156512.html
>>>>>>> Total horseshit. Look at how his mom is siding with the insanity.
>>>>>>> My son was suspended for bringing a piece of bark to school that
>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>> have been imagined to have been a knife. It had no edge, no handle,
>>>>>>> only that it was in a similar shape to a cutting implement like a
>>>>>>> substantial percentage of the wood laying on the ground and he called
>>>>>>> it a "knife," because kids play pretend and have imaginations.
>>>>>> ----How many kids, faculty and/or staff did he pretend to stab?
>>>>> None
>>>>>
>>>>> Trav
>>>> ----So, he was pretending to cut his meatloaf with a piece of bark?
>>> He was pretending that you had enough sense to know the difference
>>> between a real knife and a piece of bark.
>> ----What if he acts like he's stabbing other students and staff with his
>> pretend knife?
>
> What if he is not? What if he is playing cowboys and indians and saying bang
> bang with his finger pointing at other students, and they are doing the
> same, and they are all falling down while playing dead?
----<yawn> nice try, Dim....that's not *remotely*
what happened...
>
> It's ok with you when he moves on to the real thing?
>
> Do you really think a child's playing and fantasy is going to lead to the
> real thing? If that were case how can you explain that school shootings are
> still extremely rare
----And when they happen, the public is up in arms about how our schools
aren't safe, and the victims file multi million dollar lawsuits against
the school board....
and cowboys and indians have been played by kids since
> the beginning of time.
---Kids don't play cowboys and indians anymore, oldfuck....Mayberry
RFD's dead and gone, if it ever existed at all except in your fevered
imagination....
What is not ok with me is your soccer mom mentality,
> amateurish psychology, and psychobabble stupidity.
---The stupidity is allowing students to go to school armed, Dimwit...
Jerry B. Altzman
> trav...@aol.cominyrface wrote:
>> It was incredibly useful to have and my fellow students routinely
>> asked to borrow it.
> ----And, had one of them cut theirselves with it these days, the
> students parents would immediately file a lawsuit and the media would
> raise a hue and cry about how our schools aren't safe....
Because the country is populated now primarily by idiots such as yourself.
suds mcduff
>>>> ----How many kids, faculty and/or staff did he pretend to stab?
>> ----Maybe it's acting out, Dim....do you know the difference?
>
> You obviously dont.
---I do, you don't....
>> No cowboys and Indians at your school.
>>
>> ----No, Dim, we didn't play cowboys and indians at my school...we played
>> kickball, basketball, tag, dodgeball, ect....we played "army" at home,
>> when we weren't playing baseball and football....nobody I knew played lame
>> ass cowboys and indians....
>
> Army? You played army?
----Among other things, Dim....some didn't include violence at all....
Oh my God call the psychologist, call the school
> counselor, call the social worker, call the psychiatrist. Call the coroner
> we need to committ a violent kid like you.
----<yawn> nice try at obfuscation, Dim....note I said we played army
*at home*, adults weren't involved....sheesh, what a dumb ass....
you still haven't provided a good reason to allow kids to attend school
armed...
>>> What a fuck up you are.
>> ----What a douchebag you are....
>
> Face it all that braying makes you an ass.
----Poor Dimwit....can't see that you're living in the 1950's....go back
to watching Mayberry RFD, oldfuck...it's safer for you there....
Dan Winsor
>
> Bombs? OK yeah, I think it'd be hard to justify bombs.
Dude, when was the last time you ate in a school cafeteria? A bomb is
hardly unjustified in that case...
Jerry B. Altzman
> On Jan 8, 11:54 am, "Jerry B. Altzman"<jba...@altzman.com> wrote:
>> Bombs? OK yeah, I think it'd be hard to justify bombs.
> Dude, when was the last time you ate in a school cafeteria? A bomb is
> hardly unjustified in that case...
nuke it from orbit; it's the only way to be sure.
(Actually, my oldest son's high school cafeteria serves up some stuff
that looks and tastes pretty good.)
> Dan Winsor
suds mcduff
> on 1/8/2010 11:48 AM suds mcduff said the following:
>> trav...@aol.cominyrface wrote:
>>> On Jan 4, 2:04 pm, "Jerry B. Altzman" <jba...@altzman.com> wrote:
>>>> Not only did I carry a pocket SAK to school almost every day, I'd
>>>> routinely take it out in class and play with it, use the scissors or
>>>> knife blade (!) to cut paper, repair my clarinet with it, clean out my
>>>> fingernails with the screwdriver tips...about the only complaints I
>>>> ever
>>>> got were to quit playing with it and pay attention please.
>>> There is no place for logic or evidence in today's society.
>> ---There is no logic for allowing kids to bring guns, knives and bombs
>> to school....
>
> You are an idiot.
----I could say the same for you, and I do...
I already provided the logic for bringing a knife to
> school.
Here's mine.....
http://www.justnews.com/news/20921735/detail.html
*I* used one for everyday use. My friends did as well.
----Not everywhere lives in Mayberry RFD, idiot...Besides, if you had
read the original article, it states that pocketknives *are* allowed,
the blade limited to 2"...
>
> Guns? There are no target shooting clubs any more?
----Not here...they are dispensing with even drivers ed as an elective,
due to funding problems....all those lawsuits from parents wondering why
our schools aren't safe....
> Bombs? OK yeah, I think it'd be hard to justify bombs.
----Well, sheesh, if you're going to allow 9's, and tac folders, why not
grenades as well?
suds mcduff
> On Jan 8, 11:54 am, "Jerry B. Altzman" <jba...@altzman.com> wrote:
>> Bombs? OK yeah, I think it'd be hard to justify bombs.
>
> Dude, when was the last time you ate in a school cafeteria? A bomb is
> hardly unjustified in that case...
---Like anything else, some are better than others.....at mine they have
a great chicken/mashed/greenbean/cornbread plate...for $3....the tough
part is staying awake for that hour after eating....
suds mcduff
> on 1/8/2010 11:46 AM suds mcduff said the following:
>> trav...@aol.cominyrface wrote:
>>> It was incredibly useful to have and my fellow students routinely
>>> asked to borrow it.
>> ----And, had one of them cut theirselves with it these days, the
>> students parents would immediately file a lawsuit and the media would
>> raise a hue and cry about how our schools aren't safe....
>
> Because the country is populated now primarily by idiots such as yourself.
----Luckily, the genius' like you are few and far between....
http://www.justnews.com/news/20921735/detail.html
Jerry B. Altzman
> Jerry B. Altzman wrote:
>> on 1/8/2010 11:48 AM suds mcduff said the following:
>>> trav...@aol.cominyrface wrote:
>>>> On Jan 4, 2:04 pm, "Jerry B. Altzman" <jba...@altzman.com> wrote:
>>>>> Not only did I carry a pocket SAK to school almost every day, I'd
>>>>> routinely take it out in class and play with it, use the scissors or
>>>>> knife blade (!) to cut paper, repair my clarinet with it, clean out my
>>>>> fingernails with the screwdriver tips...about the only complaints I
>>>>> ever
>>>>> got were to quit playing with it and pay attention please.
>>>> There is no place for logic or evidence in today's society.
>>> ---There is no logic for allowing kids to bring guns, knives and bombs
>>> to school....
>> You are an idiot.
> ----I could say the same for you, and I do...
neener neener neener.
It would mean something from someone who used their real name.
> I already provided the logic for bringing a knife to
>> school.
> Here's mine.....
> http://www.justnews.com/news/20921735/detail.html
And...guess what? I'd bet that it knives were already banned in that
school.
> *I* used one for everyday use. My friends did as well.
> ----Not everywhere lives in Mayberry RFD, idiot...Besides, if you had
That's right. I didn't.
> read the original article, it states that pocketknives *are* allowed,
> the blade limited to 2"...
A 2" knife blade is barely big enough to strip wire with.
>> Guns? There are no target shooting clubs any more?
> ----Not here...they are dispensing with even drivers ed as an elective,
> due to funding problems....all those lawsuits from parents wondering why
> our schools aren't safe....
You wanted a justification for guns at school. There was one.
>> Bombs? OK yeah, I think it'd be hard to justify bombs.
> ----Well, sheesh, if you're going to allow 9's, and tac folders, why not
> grenades as well?
9's for target shooting, tac folders because a knife is a useful tool.
Grenades are just for killin'.
Herbert Cannon
try to promote their agendas. You, like all the other cattle, get stampeded
and start wringing your hands and coming up with your inane policies.
> and cowboys and indians have been played by kids since
>> the beginning of time.
>
>
> ---Kids don't play cowboys and indians anymore, oldfuck....Mayberry RFD's
> dead and gone, if it ever existed at all except in your fevered
> imagination....
Oh they play army and star wars like you. How violent of them with those
light sabres.
>
> What is not ok with me is your soccer mom mentality,
>> amateurish psychology, and psychobabble stupidity.
>
> ---The stupidity is allowing students to go to school armed, Dimwit...
Especially with pieces of bark.
>
Herbert Cannon
Why would I want to grasp moronic concepts.
trav...@aol.com
> "suds mcduff" <sudsmcduff19...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:hi7o34$3kq$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
>
>
> > Herbert Cannon wrote:
> >>news:hhqe52$krh$4...@news.eternal-september.org...
> >>> Herbert Cannon wrote:
> >>>>news:hhiniu$s5j$2...@news.eternal-september.org...
No, they play Heather has Two Daddies or something. We "all know"
that allowing boys to act like boys leads to the Holocaust or
something. Morons abound who actually believe that boys' imaginary
play causes them to grow up to act that out. The bottom line is that
women are freaking stupid.
They have banned violent play and imagination. Consequently, boys get
worse. There's actually an English researcher who found that allowing
boys to do the imaginary violent war play made them feel, act, behave
better on a variety of metrics. A Brit actually recommended
permission of play guns into school playgrounds. I brought this up
and provided a link when my son got suspended for the piece of bark.
Yes, to all the morons out there, to anyone, step back for a second
and LOOK at what happened. A boy was SUSPENDED from school for
violation of a weapons policy for bringing an IMAGINARY KNIFE to
school, which in reality was a piece of BARK.
Trav
Herbert Cannon
> ----According to the Dimbulb, they should be able to bring the guns to
> class.....
>
Exactly where did I say that, Dumpass?
> ----Dimbulb would have thought that Harris and Klebold were just boys with
> a healthy imagination....let 'em keep their guns!
Actually, after all the information came out, I thought it was a colossal
failure of parental supervision. Those kids spent a whole weekend in the
garage making bombs and no parent ever in looked in on them. One kid had a
sawed off shotgun in his room and no parent ever noticed it or said anything
about it. The thing that was obviously lacking was any adult role models in
those lads lives.
What I think is you are the dumbest teacher I ever ran into anywhere.
Herbert Cannon
">>
>> with a four inch folder killed another over a girl
>>> (which happened here recently)
>>
>> Which somehow made the school responsible? Try the parents if any can be
>> found. Horseshit
> ----No, Dim, the mothetr is sueing the school....the school has to spend
> money to defend itself....figure it out for yourself, Dim...
>
That is easy, Dump, someone is trying to make money from the incident
instead of admitting one is reponisble for one's own actions.
>>
>> the victims relatives
>>
>> relatives? His aunt and uncle?
>
> ----His mother, Dim...
Then use the term.
>>
>> would sue the
>>> school board for incompetence...
>>
>> And did they sue the school board there or did was the answer from the
>> school board, " We are not responsible because we had a policy that
>> forbade the bringing and owning of a knife of a knife with a four inch
>> blade to our shcool; therefore this crime could not happen here." Yaya ya
>> you cannot sue us.
>
> -----They will have to use funding to defend themselves, Dim....surely you
> can figure this one out...
Frivolus lawsuit. Surely you have heard the term. Want to stop them? Make
the loser pay the expenses.
>
> If one of your students runs over another with a car will you ban cars
>> too.
>
> ----Kinda hard to fit a car in the hallways, Dim...
Your school has no parking lots.
>
> You might be sued.
>
> -----Costs money to go to court, Dim. Is it different in your world?
Cost the wrong person, Dump see above.
YumYumPandaburger
> on 1/5/2010 10:11 AM YumYumPandaburger said the following:
>
> > On 5 jan, 14:42, "Jerry B. Altzman"<jba...@altzman.com> wrote:
> >> And look where he is now. Probably called "Lefty".
> > No idea where he is. At least on this occasion he wasn't the one who
> > got to visit some Swiss hospital with an old, most likely blind MD who
> > insisted on stitching without any anesthetics so that he could make
> > sure that all nerves and tendons were still properly attached.
>
> And you know what he used to make incisions! I bet that MD carried an
> SAK just for the occasion.
No, the damn communist had a leatherman tool !
Slim
> I know most of you have talked about zero tolerance policies. They seem
> to equate to zero intelligence. Note they were going to send this
> student to an alternative school for a year.
> What stupidity.
> http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/80156512.html
Its PROOF that the Bush Administration has TERRORIZED AMERICA into a
catatonic state.
--
"A nickel isn't worth a dime today." - Y. Berra
Slim
<trav...@aol.com> said:
> On Dec 27, 9:28�am, "Herbert Cannon" <hcanno...@cox.net> wrote:
>> I know most of you have talked about zero tolerance policies. They seem t
> o
>> equate to zero intelligence. Note they were going to send this student to
> an
>> alternative school for a year.
>> What stupidity.http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/80156512.html
>
> Total horseshit. Look at how his mom is siding with the insanity.
>
> My son was suspended for bringing a piece of bark to school that could
> have been imagined to have been a knife. It had no edge, no handle,
> only that it was in a similar shape to a cutting implement like a
> substantial percentage of the wood laying on the ground and he called
> it a "knife," because kids play pretend and have imaginations.
>
> They suspended him. During my discussions with the school
> administrators, I got the same zero tolerance policy bullshit, but
> interestingly enough, nobody would make a substantive defense of the
> policy. They all agreed essentially in not so many words that it was
> absurd. Yet they all fell back on the Nuremberg Defense.
>
> The system has gone haywire, utterly haywire. Like "Brazil."
The NeoCons have TERRORIZED AMERICA into this state.
Slim
> trav...@aol.cominyrface wrote:
>> On Dec 27, 9:28 am, "Herbert Cannon" <hcanno...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> I know most of you have talked about zero tolerance policies. They seem to
>>> equate to zero intelligence. Note they were going to send this student to an
>>> alternative school for a year.
>>> What stupidity.http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/80156512.html
>>
>> Total horseshit. Look at how his mom is siding with the insanity.
>>
>> My son was suspended for bringing a piece of bark to school that could
>> have been imagined to have been a knife. It had no edge, no handle,
>> only that it was in a similar shape to a cutting implement like a
>> substantial percentage of the wood laying on the ground and he called
>> it a "knife," because kids play pretend and have imaginations.
>>
>> They suspended him. During my discussions with the school
>> administrators, I got the same zero tolerance policy bullshit, but
>> interestingly enough, nobody would make a substantive defense of the
>> policy. They all agreed essentially in not so many words that it was
>> absurd. Yet they all fell back on the Nuremberg Defense.
>>
>> The system has gone haywire, utterly haywire. Like "Brazil."
>>
>> Trav
>
> ---A rich guy like you's kids go to public school? Isn't that
> considered child abuse amongst the well fed?
Trav is RICH?
BWAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
Slim
> I know most of you have talked about zero tolerance policies. They seem
> to equate to zero intelligence. Note they were going to send this
> student to an alternative school for a year.
> What stupidity.
> http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/80156512.html
And yet, when NeoCons propose "zero-tolerance" policies, you cheer!
FUCKING HYPOCRITE!!!
Slim
<trav...@aol.com> said:
> On Jan 4, 2:04�pm, "Jerry B. Altzman" <jba...@altzman.com> wrote:
>> on 1/4/2010 10:33 AM travis...@aol.cominyrface said the following:
>>
>>>> ----And, Dim, a student with a four inch folder did indeed kill anothe
> r
>>>> over a girl....none of your posing and obfuscation can get around that
> ...
>>> I carried a knife to high school nearly every single day for 4 years.
>>> It was incredibly useful to have and my fellow students routinely
>>> asked to borrow it. �A lot of us had pocket knives. �Most of my
>>> friends also had firearms.
>>
>> Not only did I carry a pocket SAK to school almost every day, I'd
>> routinely take it out in class and play with it, use the scissors or
>> knife blade (!) to cut paper, repair my clarinet with it, clean out my
>> fingernails with the screwdriver tips...about the only complaints I ever
>> got were to quit playing with it and pay attention please.
>>
>> Most of the stage crew geeks carried them...it was incredibly common.
>>
>> We used to joke about how it didn't even count as a weapon, if you tried
>> to hurt someone with it you'd be more likely to cut off your own fingers.
>>
>> Nowadays I think they use nerf-scissors to cut paper in class.
>>
>> The world has gone totally crazy about these things now. We're not safer
>> now because my teenage son can't carry a pocket knife or a leatherman
>> tool...
>
> There is no place for logic or evidence in today's society.
THE NEOCONS OUTLAWED IT.
suds mcduff
----No, Dim, the community and media are up in arms whenever there's an
incident with a weapon...
You, like all the other cattle, get stampeded
> and start wringing your hands and coming up with your inane policies.
----Schools are no place for wepons, Dim...
>
>> and cowboys and indians have been played by kids since
>>> the beginning of time.
>>
>> ---Kids don't play cowboys and indians anymore, oldfuck....Mayberry RFD's
>> dead and gone, if it ever existed at all except in your fevered
>> imagination....
>
> Oh they play army and star wars like you. How violent of them with those
> light sabres.
----When was the last time a kid was injured with a light saber, Dim?
>
>> What is not ok with me is your soccer mom mentality,
>>> amateurish psychology, and psychobabble stupidity.
>> ---The stupidity is allowing students to go to school armed, Dimwit...
>
> Especially with pieces of bark.
----Fashioned into a knife....
suds mcduff
---Really? Football's been banned? Since when?
suds mcduff
> on 1/9/2010 10:00 AM suds mcduff said the following:
>> Jerry B. Altzman wrote:
>>> on 1/8/2010 11:48 AM suds mcduff said the following:
>>>> trav...@aol.cominyrface wrote:
>>>>> On Jan 4, 2:04 pm, "Jerry B. Altzman" <jba...@altzman.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Not only did I carry a pocket SAK to school almost every day, I'd
>>>>>> routinely take it out in class and play with it, use the scissors or
>>>>>> knife blade (!) to cut paper, repair my clarinet with it, clean
>>>>>> out my
>>>>>> fingernails with the screwdriver tips...about the only complaints I
>>>>>> ever
>>>>>> got were to quit playing with it and pay attention please.
>>>>> There is no place for logic or evidence in today's society.
>>>> ---There is no logic for allowing kids to bring guns, knives and bombs
>>>> to school....
>>> You are an idiot.
>> ----I could say the same for you, and I do...
>
> neener neener neener.
> It would mean something from someone who used their real name.
----Means something even with my nome de plume....
>
>> I already provided the logic for bringing a knife to
>>> school.
>> Here's mine.....
>> http://www.justnews.com/news/20921735/detail.html
>
> And...guess what? I'd bet that it knives were already banned in that
> school.
----Yes,they were....and had this kid been caught with it, he would have
been expelled immediately.....without a policy in place, the
administration would have no reason to remove the student...
>
>> *I* used one for everyday use. My friends did as well.
>> ----Not everywhere lives in Mayberry RFD, idiot...Besides, if you had
>
> That's right. I didn't.
>
>> read the original article, it states that pocketknives *are* allowed,
>> the blade limited to 2"...
>
> A 2" knife blade is barely big enough to strip wire with.
----I carry a 2" serrated blade to work...serves me well...I use wire
strippers to strip wire
>>> Guns? There are no target shooting clubs any more?
>> ----Not here...they are dispensing with even drivers ed as an elective,
>> due to funding problems....all those lawsuits from parents wondering why
>> our schools aren't safe....
>
> You wanted a justification for guns at school. There was one.
>
>>> Bombs? OK yeah, I think it'd be hard to justify bombs.
>> ----Well, sheesh, if you're going to allow 9's, and tac folders, why not
>> grenades as well?
>
> 9's for target shooting,
----especially when the target's a "hated" administrator...or the entire
home room...
tac folders because a knife is a useful tool.
----Anything you can cut with your tac folder, I can cut with a 2"
folder....and do....
> Grenades are just for killin'.
----So are 9's....
suds mcduff
>> ----According to the Dimbulb, they should be able to bring the guns to
>> class.....
>>
>
> Exactly where did I say that, Dumpass?
----Well, Dim, didn't you lament school policies? That's a school
policy, Dim...
>
>
>> ----Dimbulb would have thought that Harris and Klebold were just boys with
>> a healthy imagination....let 'em keep their guns!
>
> Actually, after all the information came out, I thought it was a colossal
> failure of parental supervision. Those kids spent a whole weekend in the
> garage making bombs and no parent ever in looked in on them. One kid had a
> sawed off shotgun in his room and no parent ever noticed it or said anything
> about it. The thing that was obviously lacking was any adult role models in
> those lads lives.
----And, your non policy would allow a host of Klebold and Harris'...
> What I think is you are the dumbest teacher I ever ran into anywhere.
---I'm not a teacher, Dim....
suds mcduff
> ">>
>>> with a four inch folder killed another over a girl
>>>> (which happened here recently)
>>> Which somehow made the school responsible? Try the parents if any can be
>>> found. Horseshit
>> ----No, Dim, the mothetr is sueing the school....the school has to spend
>> money to defend itself....figure it out for yourself, Dim...
>>
> That is easy, Dump, someone is trying to make money from the incident
> instead of admitting one is reponisble for one's own actions.
---That is why the schools need to shield themselves with zero tolerance
policies, Dim....
>>> the victims relatives
>>>
>>> relatives? His aunt and uncle?
>> ----His mother, Dim...
>
> Then use the term.
---His mother's not a relative, Dim? And besides, you can be sure she is
being advised by the other relatives...
>>> would sue the
>>>> school board for incompetence...
>>> And did they sue the school board there or did was the answer from the
>>> school board, " We are not responsible because we had a policy that
>>> forbade the bringing and owning of a knife of a knife with a four inch
>>> blade to our shcool; therefore this crime could not happen here." Yaya ya
>>> you cannot sue us.
>> -----They will have to use funding to defend themselves, Dim....surely you
>> can figure this one out...
>
> Frivolus lawsuit. Surely you have heard the term. Want to stop them? Make
> the loser pay the expenses.
----I agree, Dim....but, that's not how our justice system is set
up...would you sign a waiver legally absolving the school of all such
incidents?
>
>> If one of your students runs over another with a car will you ban cars
>>> too.
>> ----Kinda hard to fit a car in the hallways, Dim...
>
> Your school has no parking lots.
----Matter of fact, Dim, at one school featuring an "open campus",
students were racing to and from lunch....after a couple accidents,
campus was closed, no going out at all....so, the answer to your
question is, yes.....
>> You might be sued.
>>
>> -----Costs money to go to court, Dim. Is it different in your world?
>
> Cost the wrong person, Dump see above.
----Sorry, Dim, your justice system is non existent here....perhaps if
you move to England....
trav...@aol.com
At elementary schools around here, yes, within the past few years.
Trav
trav...@aol.com
> >news:hi7o34$3kq$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> >> Herbert Cannon wrote:
> >>>news:hhqe52$krh$4...@news.eternal-september.org...
> >>>> Herbert Cannon wrote:
> >>>>>news:hhiniu$s5j$2...@news.eternal-september.org...
It wasn't "fashioned" in any way, shape, or form. It was an
unmodified piece of bark IMAGINED to be a knife.
Trav
YumYumPandaburger
> On Jan 5, 10:42 am, Greendistantstar <Greendistants...@iinet.net.au>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > We 'ad to go down to mortuary, take pennies from dead mens's eyes,
>
> OK, for the record, I had to read that twice, especially knowing who
> the author was...
I believe he refers to the ancient Aussie burial ritual of putting
penises on dead men's eyes. I assume dead women get vags on their
eyes, but any clarification on this from Aussie side is off course
welcome.
YumYumPandaburger
> "suds mcduff" <sudsmcduff19...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Lol. You are like a three year old. If they cannot do something they
also claim that "it was stupid anyway".
trav...@aol.com
> penises on dead men's eyes. I assume dead women get vags on their
> eyes, but any clarification on this from Aussie side is off course
> welcome.
Wait...women don't have eyes...do they???
Trav
Jerry B. Altzman
> Jerry B. Altzman wrote:
>> And...guess what? I'd bet that it knives were already banned in that
>> school.
> ----Yes,they were....and had this kid been caught with it, he would have
> been expelled immediately.....without a policy in place, the
> administration would have no reason to remove the student...
Nonsense. There are, and have been for YEARS, policies and provisions in
place to remove 'disruptive' students from school.
What these policies do is make it so that no one ever needs to exercise
any judgment in a disciplinary matter, and that no one ever CAN.
>> A 2" knife blade is barely big enough to strip wire with.
> ----I carry a 2" serrated blade to work...serves me well...I use wire
> strippers to strip wire
I don't want to carry a whole messa tools with me; it's bad enough with
the laptop and the wires & connectors I shlep around.
>> 9's for target shooting,
> ----especially when the target's a "hated" administrator...or the entire
> home room...
You wanted a justification -- target shooting club is a justification.
> tac folders because a knife is a useful tool.
> ----Anything you can cut with your tac folder, I can cut with a 2"
> folder....and do....
That's nice, but so what? I could also kill someone with a 2" folder,
too. Slit your throat quite nicely, it will.
>> Grenades are just for killin'.
> ----So are 9's....
I bet IDPA folks would disagree.
Fraser Johnston
"Greendistantstar" <Greendis...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
news:OIudnSB6P7cEwt7W...@westnet.com.au...
> YumYumPandaburger wrote:
>> On 5 jan, 16:25, Dan Winsor <dan.win...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Jan 5, 10:11 am, YumYumPandaburger <theoriginald...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> No idea where he is. At least on this occasion he wasn't the one who
>>>> got to visit some Swiss hospital with an old, most likely blind MD who
>>>> insisted on stitching without any anesthetics so that he could make
>>>> sure that all nerves and tendons were still properly attached.
>>> a "doctor." Those times when *I* was stabbed, I had to sew myself
>>> back together with a rusty needle and bailing wire...
>>
>> Doctor only in the broadest sense of the word, imo. At least you guys
>> had needles. When I was a kid we had to make do with small, enraged
>> hamsters that would keep the would closed with their teeth.
>
> You mean those rats you guys eat?
>
> Wow, dual-function rodents...you Benelux guys sure are smart!
Triple function if Richard Gere happens to be around.
Fraser
Fraser Johnston
> trav...@aol.cominyrface wrote:
>> On Jan 5, 10:57 am, YumYumPandaburger <theoriginald...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> On 5 jan, 16:50, Greendistantstar <Greendistants...@iinet.net.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> YumYumPandaburger wrote:
>>>>> On 5 jan, 16:25, Dan Winsor <dan.win...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Jan 5, 10:11 am, YumYumPandaburger <theoriginald...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> No idea where he is. At least on this occasion he wasn't the one who
>>>>>>> got to visit some Swiss hospital with an old, most likely blind MD who
>>>>>>> insisted on stitching without any anesthetics so that he could make
>>>>>>> sure that all nerves and tendons were still properly attached.
>>>>>> Pfft...at least you got a doctor. Back in my day, we couldn't afford
>>>>>> a "doctor." Those times when *I* was stabbed, I had to sew myself
>>>>>> back together with a rusty needle and bailing wire...
>>>>> Doctor only in the broadest sense of the word, imo. At least you guys
>>>>> had needles. When I was a kid we had to make do with small, enraged
>>>>> hamsters that would keep the would closed with their teeth.
>>>> You mean those rats you guys eat?
>>>> Wow, dual-function rodents...you Benelux guys sure are smart!
>>> to a desert island infested by poisonous animals.
>>
>> LOL
>>
>> Trav
>
> Actually, I was going to reply "Better than sailing to a foreign land,
> chaining 'em up and shipping them home, only to have them over-run and fuck
> the place up." but thought better of it...political correctness 'n' all...
Don't worry about it mate. We are white and therefore automatically racist.
Fraser
Greendistantstar
Fuck yeah. Let me share a quick story. I had a pic on my FB page that was taken at a friend's
birthday party. It was a pick of two mates and a kid, with tea-towels wrapped around their heads
appearing to play the drums on a table.
One of the guys sends me a nasty email, saying how dare I put this pic up as it's of him
'impersonating Muslims' and was likely to offend Muslims. WTF???? I told him I had no idea he was
'impersonating Muslims' and as I had a Muslim father, perhaps it was ME that should be offended!
Apparently it's a greater sin to chronicle the 'sin' than commit it.
I took the pic off, but it just goes to show you how pathetic many of us have become, how political
correctness is a disease of our times.
GDS
"Let's roll!"
Fraser Johnston
> Fuck yeah. Let me share a quick story. I had a pic on my FB page that was
> taken at a friend's birthday party. It was a pick of two mates and a kid,
> with tea-towels wrapped around their heads appearing to play the drums on a
> table.
What they were really doing was assembling bombs to kill infidels. ; )
Fraser
Dan Winsor
wrote:
> Apparently it's a greater sin to chronicle the 'sin' than commit it.
Nah, the biggest sin is that you have a Facebook page. Geez. Though
at least one of the pics on there is... impressive?
--
Dan Winsor
Soy un poco loco en el coco.
Greendistantstar
> On Jan 14, 11:00 pm, Greendistantstar <Greendistants...@iinet.net.au>
> wrote:
>> Apparently it's a greater sin to chronicle the 'sin' than commit it.
>
> Nah, the biggest sin is that you have a Facebook page. Geez.
I know...<hangs head>
>Though at least one of the pics on there is... impressive?
If it's at all possible, every man should have a '10' gal once in his life :)
GDS
"Let's roll!"
trav...@aol.com
wrote:
Had a few of them...all totally fucking trouble.
Here's a story. A girl I dated within the past few months was a
Banana Republic model...I can provide pics if necessary. So, one
time, the kids' mom called to talk to them in between texting this
girl at the grocery store. So, they took the phone and the battery
ran dead, consequently I was unable to reply. 40m later I returned
home, and popped in a fresh battery, only to see an increasing
sequence of txts from her culminating in "I don't need to be ignored
by you, have a nice life." LOL
So, I let her cool off for a few days. The next time, I was putting
my kids to bed, didn't repond for NINE minutes, and it was "should I
assume you are talking to your ex wife???" and shit like that. 9
minutes. So I basically told her to get lost. Within a few days it
was "I am pregnant, Trav." Straight out of the psychochick playbook.
I just had to laugh at it. She just went off the reservation totally.
So, hadn't spoken to her for a few months, hit her up the other
day...well, she's dating some guy or whatever. So, what happens, she
booty calls me at 1a Thursday night. LOL. I mean, c'mon...trouble
from the word go. Tryin to get together with me and I'm like hey I
may have other plans this weekend and she starts getting JEALOUS. A
girl w/ a bf who is trying to cheat is getting jealous because I might
be seeing somebody.
This is by no means aberrant behavior for hot chicks. That indian
girl I had a pic of up somewhere, she was the same way. They're
fucking crazy. The exwife was probably a 9 but had 10 magnetism and
she was just utterly screwball nuts.
But you're right...every guy should get a 10 at one point just to
discover for himself why they are single and why you see guys married
to chicks that are goodlooking but not dropdead hot. Unfortunately
for me, I seem to draw these girls like flies. If you put me in
contact with them, I'm gonna draw them and be the victim of this
insanity.
Trav
Dan Winsor
wrote:
> On Jan 15, 9:57 am, Greendistantstar <Greendistants...@iinet.net.au>
> wrote:
>
> > Dan Winsor wrote:
> > > On Jan 14, 11:00 pm, Greendistantstar <Greendistants...@iinet.net.au>
> > > wrote:
> > >> Apparently it's a greater sin to chronicle the 'sin' than commit it.
>
> > > Nah, the biggest sin is that you have a Facebook page. Geez.
>
> > I know...<hangs head>
>
> > >Though at least one of the pics on there is... impressive?
>
> > If it's at all possible, every man should have a '10' gal once in his life :)
>
> > GDS
>
> Had a few of them...all totally fucking trouble.
>
> Here's a story. A girl I dated within the past few months was a
> Banana Republic model...I can provide pics if necessary.
Of *course* it is necessary. Pics or it didn't happen.
trav...@aol.com
Send me an em and I'll send u a photo of her
Trav
Dan Winsor
wrote:
>
> Send me an em and I'll send u a photo of her
While I'm pathetic, married, and desparate, I'm not quite that hard up
- I believe you. :)
Slim
Naaaah....they were just hitting back ot those who had fucked them over
for over a century.
Slim
<trav...@aol.com> said:
> On Jan 15, 9:57�am, Greendistantstar <Greendistants...@iinet.net.au>
> wrote:
>> Dan Winsor wrote:
>>> On Jan 14, 11:00 pm, Greendistantstar <Greendistants...@iinet.net.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Apparently it's a greater sin to chronicle the 'sin' than commit it.
>>
>>> Nah, the biggest sin is that you have a Facebook page. �Geez. �
>>
>> I know...<hangs head>
>>
>>> Though at least one of the pics on there is... impressive?
>>
>> If it's at all possible, every man should have a '10' gal once in his lif
> e :)
>>
>> GDS
>
> Had a few of them...all totally fucking trouble.
>
> Here's a story. A girl I dated within the past few months was a
> Banana Republic model...I
And it took you months to find out she was stupid, shallow and immature?
> . Unfortunately
> for me, I seem to draw these girls like flies.
You keep pretending like you have money....they will come.
Its the promise of a payday, not your looks.
Slim
Trav can Photoshop Michelle Obama giving him head.
That doesn't make it real.