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jeffz

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May 10, 2008, 12:23:23 PM5/10/08
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Hi,

I've been trying to learn 4 club singles for a while now. I can do
doubles okay. My problem is that my left hand naturally wants to
juggle two clubs slightly lower than my right hand. So, if I try
asych, the rhythm gets off really quick. If i try synch, my left hand
is generally overspun and I'm constantly correcting.

I'm usually pretty good at diagnosing and fixing my own juggling
problems, but I can't seem to fix this. Even when I make some
progress, I try again the next day and my left hand acts stupid again.

Has anyone had this problem? What did you do to fix it?

Thanks,
Jeff

ManiacDrew

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May 10, 2008, 1:42:33 PM5/10/08
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jeffz wrote:
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> Hi,

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> Has anyone had this problem? What did you do to fix it?
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> Thanks,
> Jeff


Learn to transition from async to sync and back every 4 (8 async) counts.

MD

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jeffz

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May 10, 2008, 3:29:29 PM5/10/08
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On May 10, 1:42 pm, gro...@ChangingLINKS.com.nospam.com (ManiacDrew)
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I've been practicing the transition from asynch to synch (and vice
versa) in doubles, but I really can't run singles long enough to give
that a try. Thanks for the tip though, maybe when I get a bit more
consistent...

Ameron Rosvall

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May 10, 2008, 4:15:25 PM5/10/08
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You could try learning to juggle 4 on singles in columns first (async
columns). I found that much easier than the fountain when I learned 4
clubs.

ManiacDrew

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May 10, 2008, 6:42:58 PM5/10/08
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jeffz wrote:
> I've been practicing the transition from asynch to synch (and vice
> versa) in doubles, but I really can't run singles long enough to give
> that a try. Thanks for the tip though, maybe when I get a bit more
> consistent...

Start today. Force it. Plan to switch patterns before you drop.
I know plenty of jugglers that are still uncomfortable with those tricks
even though they can run singles. Forcing the transitions back and forth
will open you up to juggling 4 singles "at any rythm".

For me, it took deciding that switching between the two patterns WAS the
pattern. Now, no matter where I am beat-wise, I can get to either pattern.
When either pattern gets shaky, I can switch to the other for stability.

Chadd Hammer

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May 10, 2008, 9:12:34 PM5/10/08
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Seems like every juggler has there quarks. If there's one thing I've
learned from having dead ends on tricks I "should" be able to do, advice
never does anything for me, it's a matter of pure persistance and
determination. But I suppose some of you freaks may actually benefit from
advice, so heres my two cents.
1) Make sure your doubles are solid.
2) Learn it like you (probably) learned doubles by starting with two in
the right hand, then two in your left hand. Get these consistent, it's key.
3) Force like heck (hell) how you want your clubs to fly.
4) Notice where your grip is on the handle.


If you still can't get it, just remember things could be worse, you could
be doing poi.

The Hammer

ultimatewannabe

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May 11, 2008, 4:00:13 AM5/11/08
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Chadd Hammer wrote:
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> If you still can't get it, just remember things could be worse, you could
> be doing poi.
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> The Hammer
>

Exactly, I've just started practicing poi again and I have these dube
stage balls on mine that hurt very bad when I mess up. I do poi for like
10 minutes as a break from my juggling and I'm always so much happier when
I'm back to juggling because I can just look at how bad I am at poi to put
things in perspective.

JugglerPeter

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May 12, 2008, 11:21:29 AM5/12/08
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Until you can keep the heights consistent in sync I think it's a bad idea
to work on async. Really force the issue when you work on sync of keeping
your left hand throws lofty and slow. Remember that the closer you hold a
club to th handle the slower it will spin for the same torque, so try to
hold close to the knob
Do a couple things to practice with your left hand:
1. Practice throwing very high singles with your left hand. See how high
you can make a single throw go - just a few times before your practice
further one
2. Practice 2 in your left hand as lofty as you can - make it overly
lofty and hold the clubs near the knobs
3. Run 3 club columns in singles 1st with the 2 in one hand from the
right - so you can practice getting loft left hand throws without being
rushed
4. Run 3 club columns with the 2 in one hand from the left.
5. Now try 4 club singles again.

Good luck.

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